San Diego Chargers Wish List: Mario Williams
If you've been reading BFTB over the last few weeks, you're probably aware that I'm enamored with Mario Williams. The Houston Texans Defensive End-turned-Outside Linebacker is an unrestricted free agent and is one of the few players available that could completely turn a defense around.
The San Diego Chargers' most glaring hole is at pass-rusher, and it's a hole they need to plug immediately if A.J. Smith and/or Norv Turner want to keep their job. Williams seems to be the best way to do that, even if Smith has shied away from big-ticket free agents in the past. Let's go through the basics....
I honestly had no idea that he went to NC State (like Philip Rivers!). Nor did I know that I am 13 days older than Mario. All good info. At his size, he's one of the largest OLBs in the league. However, the same freakish athleticism that made him the #1 overall pick in the 2006 NFL Draft keeps that extra size from holding him back at all.
After the jump, we'll go a little deeper into his stats and get an update on the Chargers chances of landing Williams in free agency.
Stats
Mario Williams has recorded 53 sacks in 82 games since entering the NFL, or 0.64 sacks per game. If you take out his rookie season, where defensive linemen never really stand out, he has 48.5 sacks in just 66 games (or 0.73 sacks per game). In his first season as a 3-4 OLB, he racked up 5 sacks in just 5 games before tearing his pectoral muscle and missing the remainder of the season.
Contract
Before the days of the rookie wage scale, Williams signed a six-year deal with the Texans as a rookie for $54 million that paid him $18 million in 2011. If he were to get franchised, he would get a one-year deal for roughly $22.5 million. The Texans will not franchise him because they don't have anywhere near that cap room, and they're still trying to figure out how they can reconfigure their roster to a point where they can make Williams a fair offer. That might be taking too big of a risk, though.
The good news, for the Texans and the Chargers, is that Williams is not intent on becoming the highest-paid defensive player in the NFL.
"I'm not worried about that," Williams said Thursday. "It's really not that big of a deal to me. I was the first pick (in 2006), and I've already had everything I really wanted, so my biggest thing is to be in a good position, a good scheme, a good system and continuing my career. Hopefully, it works out.
"It's always important to be in a position to be successful. That comes with teammates around you, coaching, having that winning attitude. You want to (play) where you can thrive no matter where you are."
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"I'm not focused on telling my agent, ‘Hey, do this or do that because I want to be the highest-paid (defensive) player,' " Williams said. "It's whatever fits best for myself and the team.
In a nutshell, Mario is signing where he believe he will be happiest and have the best chance to succeed. However, it needs to make financial sense (his agent will make sure of that). I think Vincent Jackson is going about free agency in the same way, which is the right way, but unfortunately the Chargers need a pass-rusher more than they need a wide receiver this offseason.
The Texans are projected to have around $3 and $4 million in cap space this offseason. With Williams most likely scheduled to earn around $20 million in the first year of his deal, they're almost out of the picture to sign him.
The Chargers are scheduled to have around $9 and 10 million in cap space, but a lot of that depends on Kris Dielman, Marcus McNeill and others. If those two don't come back (Dielman because he might retire and McNeill because the Chargers could void his contract) and Luis Castillo restructures his contract, San Diego could have more than $20 million in cap space.
Williams' agent will probably be looking for something similar to what the Chicago Bears gave Julius Peppers (6 years, $84 million), if not a little more considering Williams is three years younger than Peppers was when he signed that. The good news is that a six or seven-year deal is not a bad investment for Williams, considering that Perppers himself (along with others) have shown that a pass-rusher in his early 30s can still be very effective.
Summary
San Diego could serve as an attractive option to Williams. If the Dielman, McNeill and Castillo things fall the right(?) way, the team should have enough cap room to be one of the top bidders for Mario. Obviously, the location is one of the most desirable in the country and the team still seems like it's one strong pass-rusher away from returning back to being a contender for the AFC Championship.
We'll see how things shake out, but for now it appears that Mario Williams will hit the open market....even if that's not his first choice.
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I like your thinking
I think AJ needs to make a big splash like this to save his job. We could then use the first pick on a #1WR and or SS
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on January 18th. I’d love for him to be a Charger. I think he would help invigorate the team and allow some of our other linebackers some one on one match ups that they could exploite. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
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by BillsFanSanDiego619 on Feb 22, 2012 2:40 PM PST reply actions
He's a must have
In my opinion. AJ needs to make this happen. It will excite the fan base and put quarterbacks on their asses. Win win.
I've only mentioned to John like a million times
That Manny Lawson and Mario Williams played together at NC State and were drafted the same year and both in the first round (along with NC State DT John McCargo). So, just so everyone knows, that’s what he means when he says “I honestly had no idea that he went to NC State”.
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by Wonko on Feb 22, 2012 3:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Free agents
Mario to me makes total sense..but who are other fine pass rushers who will be in the free agency…
by In need of the trophy on Feb 22, 2012 3:38 PM PST via Android app reply actions
I actually wrote an article about this very topic:
San Diego Chargers: Shopping for Free Agent Pass Rushers.
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Shopping Pass Rushers
While I would love to have Williams or Avril (definate upgrades) the thought process of needing a pass rusher leaves me scratching my head? SP95 a ten sack per year machine was hurt this past season. Antwan Barnes had 11 sacks filling in for him partime. With both of them coming back next year that’s tons of QB pressure on both sides outside. Both are under contract already along with English who, dare I say could finally be healthy.
It just seems to me we should be more concerned with help at SS, MLB, OL and finding a way to retain V-Jax for continuity on offense, for Rivers.
The argument against Barnes is he’s not an every down player cause he’s not good against the run. The player we are looking for is a pass rusher and that’s where he excells hence scratching my head…
I would like to get Dont'a Hightower
if we don’t get a pass rusher in the first, but then we still have to see how Mouton plays
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Hightower, Burfict, SS Mark Barron or Tom Zbikowski are on my wish list
Mouton also played some OLB at Michgan, Gamble and Everette Brown are young speed rushers that can still be coached up at OLB. We have potential depth at OLB IMO.
They are also on my wish list
if we Zbikowski do you think we should get Barron
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Mark Barron or Tom Zbikowski
Stuckey and either of those two coupled with a look at Deandre McDaniel
Our D-line
needs to get better so our DBs don’t have to cover forever
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Both Barnes and Phillips are free agents after this season
Shaun Phillips has had 2 ten+ sack seasons in his 8 year career. Hardly what I would call a “ten sack per year machine”. It’s also obvious that we don’t get a consistent enough pass rush. Sacks are nice, but there needs to be more pressure even on plays where the sacks don’t come. Anybody who watches the game with an eye towards looking for that pressure sees that its missing. Also, Travis LaBoy played plenty of snaps this past season. Getting someone to take those snaps that doesn’t suck would go a long way.
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Very true
pass rush is more than just sacks its pressure. It seems like we barley get pressure and make the other O-line look like a bunch of pro bowlers. It always seems that the QB has a lot of time to throw and thats not helping our DBs.
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Coaching
Manusky didn’t produce the aggressive blitz theme he said he would coming in, injuries may have had something to do with that. The Harrison Seau lead BOLTS didn’t have a beast on the outside. In a 3-4 scheme your DL sets up the OLB in QB pressure. Merriman and Phillips benefitted from Castillo and Jamal Williams. Look at the Texans, Mario went down and they still had solid production in QB pressure. Strong DL play coupled with Wade Phillips agressive coaching. Again the impact player we need is in the middle of our D.
We should get Alameda Ta'amu from Washington
or Poe from Memphis or maybe Chapman from Alabama
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Of those
Only Poe is 1st round worthy at this point.
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Yea I know
I still want a pass rusher in the 1st and hope we get Ta’amu in the 2nd or 3rd (if we don’t get him) then we could get Chapman in the 4th
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Wade Phillips was an aggressive coach?
Says who?
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I didn't say anything to the contrary.
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Harrison-Seau Bolts
That was a different era. That team thrived on just completely shutting down the running game. The pass defense wasn’t as big of a key because the Chargers offense was terrible about forcing teams to rely on their passing games.
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Yes
And that team still didn’t have a good pass rush.
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That's another thing we need to work on
our run defense. It seems like teams always average 5 yards a carry on us
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly
Hence suring up the middle of our D. There’s too much panic mode reaction to last year’s injury riddled team that had no offseason to prep for coaching change on D. We have enough depth at OLB we just need groomings continuity.
I don't think Garay is cutting it
he seems more like a pass rusher NT than run stuffer NT. Can’t we still get Jaamal back for cheap
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
The line will be
Liuget, Thomas, Martin going forward. All recent draft picks. The team has been focusing on the DL for a few years now while ignoring the OLBs.
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Sounds good
they’ll be working together for a long time (hopefully) and now we can work on LBs probably why we got Spikes and LaBoy, so that we can replace them with younger LBs like Mouton and hopefully a new Pass Rusher opposite of SP95
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with you on the DL
OLB is a position that coaching’s game planning depends on heavily. We have the parts in place there, our issue last year was injuries and releasing Burnett. I love having Spikes but KB was the reason we were the #1 pass D in 2010. Drafting a impact MLB and suring up the SS position is what we need more then anything.
The Chargers didn't release Burnett
He played out his contract and signed for more money elsewhere.
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True
Bad choice of wording but he was the missing ingredient as a impact player on D, coupled with coaching change.
Injuries
They definitely were an issue, but what’s to stop them from being an issue in the future. Upgrading somebody like LaBoy would better equip the team to handle injuries on one of their most important units.
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Continuity and better coaching D will fix that
Again I would love to have a Avril or Williams but MLB & SS are more pressing needs to me. Injuries are a part of the game. Williams went down last season and any other player we bring in could also.
I don't really see how ILB is a need
They have Spikes, Butler and Mouton. They probably need one more guy for depth, but they don’t need a starter.
At SS, they could use an impact starter, but barring that it’s probably best to use Stuckey and add depth.
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That's the same reasoning I see at OLB
I can’t see spending big money on that position when we need to keep V-Jax coupled with signing Gaither. MLB depth was a hugh issue last year, Spikes is too old to play that many snaps and is horrible in pass coverage at his age. Mouton was not known for his pass coverage at Michigan either. Run D has been our plight for some time now. Suring up the middle would help that.
How can you call the ILB depth a huge issue last year
And the OLB depth not a huge issue?
I just think that OLB and the pass rush is so huge in the NFL, it makes as big of an impact on the game as any unit besides the quarterbacks. You have to get that working and everything else gets better. Especially on a team with a good offense that forces teams into obvious passing situations.
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OLB depth was addressed last year
Spikes was over worked at MLB. SP95 back from injury, Barnes had a good limited campaign coupled with rookies and free agents that were thrown into the mix, in that no OTA’s DC change season. Pagano gives us continuity in coaching, Barnes is being discounted IMO. With a full offseason and a healthy SP95 they could both be lethal. Middle is our issue… MLB & SS.
Pass D has been our strength for the last few years. We fell off a bit last year but were still respectable, which is why I say strengthen the middle.
Your argument still isn't very solid
We have 3 ILBs that can play and 2 OLBs that you like. Both with good, but not great track records. Both positions have one of those guys coming off of injury.
There are snaps to be taken by a 3rd OLB even with a healthy Phillips and Barnes and a pass rush that hasn’t been consistently a threat since Shawne Merriman was here.
Your argument about Spikes being overworked can be applied to Phillips and Barnes as well. They could benefit from rotation and depth (in case of injuries) every bit as much as Spikes can.
The big difference is that the upgrade in depth at ILB will make a marginal difference, while upgrade the OLBs will better the pass rush which will make a huge difference.
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by Wonko on Feb 23, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Defensive DVOA
Chargers were 31st in the league in Pass Defense and 22nd in Run Defense. Both needed an upgrade, but Pass Defense is by far the biggest lead.
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Yea I know since its a Passing League nowadays
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Word from inside the organization, per Ace:
“Remote possibility.”
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by Zach (maestro876) on Feb 22, 2012 3:39 PM PST reply actions
Isn't that what they said about the possibility that Norv and AJ keep their jobs?
I think Tommy Bahama knows that he needs to do something drastic this year, if nothing else. Hopefully, it’s Mario.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Feb 22, 2012 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
Keep in mind that we are talking about AJ Smith here
He wouldn’t go public with a strategy of his… ever.
He prescribes to the Patriot’s way in this regard.
by Ferguson1015 on Feb 23, 2012 5:35 AM PST up reply actions
Mario Williams would be great for any team
but it depends on how much you’re willing to part with your own FAs, specifically VJax who is also going to command big $$. But if push came to shove, I’d go w/ Williams because the defense is in serious need.
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If somehow get him
I wouldn’t mind letting VJ walk, we could do a lot of different things in the 1st round
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 22, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yea i know and Phillip Rivers
can make any WR look good
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 22, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
There are also more receiver hungry teams out there
Like for example the entire AFC South, also just about our entire division minus the Chiefs (unless they lose Bowe)
by Ferguson1015 on Feb 23, 2012 5:37 AM PST up reply actions
There are also a lot of FA WRs this year
like Colston, Meacham, DeSean Jackson, Reggie Wayne, Mike Wallace, Steve Johnson (I know there are more I just can’t remember)
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
I think you've got most of the big names. Eddie Royal is out there too.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Feb 23, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
read a great article on bleacher report how DeSean would be the perfect fit for us
not saying i agree 100% but it was interesting and did make sense
I would love to see Mario Williams on the Chargers
but I would be very surprised if he ended up in San Diego. I am not sure that the Chargers are willing to spend the kind of money that it will take to get him. Even if they are willing to make an offer that is in the ballpark with other teams are we sure that he thinks San Diego is the place that he will be “the happiest and have the best chance to succeed”.
No Chance
The Chargers NEVER sign big free agents EVER! AJ’s splash will be to not move up in the draft and use all his draft picks for once. He will let VJ walk and sign Garcon or some other second level WR, and then WHEN Floyd and Gates go down next year him and Norv will cry about the injuries they sufffered to already injury-prone players, and talk about all the cap room they have for 2013 offseason to fill holes.
If he attempts to try and get Mario Williams
that would be a huge step for AJ
by chargerclipperfan on Feb 23, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
If AJ wants to keep his job
He’ll make a big splash come free agency. I’m not sure how much longer the fans will tolerate him, especially if the Bolts miss the postseason for a third straight season.
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by Jonathan Holmes on Feb 23, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Not true
If A.J. wants to keep his job he needs to win. If he wins a Super Bowl or even gets to the playoffs and doesn’t make a splash in free agency, I don’t think his job is in jeopardy.
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by Wonko on Feb 23, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
How do you get to the playoffs? By winning games.
How do you win games? Well, a lot of ways, but an important ingredient is a good defense.
How do you improve defense? Install a strong pass rush.
How do you install a strong pass rush? You need good players who fit the scheme— in this case, a good 3-4 OLB like Williams.
Now, the logic there is a little nebulous, because it doesn’t really allow for injury or a resurgent season in other areas (Cason and Jammer getting their acts together, for example), but it’s easy to see how it seems to make sense.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Feb 23, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
There is another elephant in the room out there that really hasn't been mentioned...
Mario Williams played OLB for 5 total games…yes, we can say he is a good pass rusher. But 3-4 OLB involves more than just rushing the passer: how is he in coverage? If the Bolts are going to shell out the big bucks to play Mario at OLB, that’s a pretty sizeable risk for only 5 games playing the position on tape.
It makes more sense that a team that runs the 4-3 will be more willing to shell out the big bucks and will land Mario.
Fair point. I'd still be pretty geeked if they signed him.
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