Strong Safety assessment: Did Bob Sanders Help the Chargers Defense?
When the 2011 season started, there was justified excitement over the off season acquisition of Safety Bob Sanders, a former Defensive Player of the Year and Pro Bowler with the Indiannapolis Colts. Just two games into his season with the Chargers, Sanders was lost for the season after contributing almost nothing. The statistics may show that he had no significant impact on the team, but while stats don't lie, they don't tell the whole story either. Let's examine what his presence on the field brought to the team. First, his stat sheet:
Not much to see, but there are two games worth of data and there are interesting things to know about his 102 defensive snaps in lightning bolts. Let's examine the team when playing...
Vs the Run
One thing you will notice about the first game is that the Vikings ran for 159 yards at 6.1 yards per rush, including the dangerous Adrian Peterson. On his biggest run, Sanders completely missed a chance at tackling him after a short gain, and instead caught him 44 yards later just before breaking down coverage in the end zone and giving up a TD. Other than that, Sanders is definitely a run stopping type of player, looking for a stop immediately. He's vicious in his attack and explosive in a way that makes you want him in over the slower Steve Gregory and weaker Paul Oliver. Here are a few examples:
This fourth example is the most worrisome. It's why he's always hurt. His disregard for his body is apparent here, throwing himself into a pile to try and get a piece of the ballcarrier. It's admirable, but it's plays like these that cause one to find an injury as well. While Gregory and Oliver will never look to attack like Sanders, they'll make an attempt at a tackle that won't jeopardize their health. However, one of the things that was great about Bob Sanders, was that he's looking for a way to make a play, never giving up, and fighting blockers towards the play. Gregory and Oliver combined probably don't make as much of an effort as Sanders, so I applaud him on that. It's a characteristic knows as "relentlessness" that many of the best players have. Now, how was Bob's presence...
Vs the Pass
We all remember the Touchdown pass to Aaron Hernandez in the end zone where Bob was there, but couldn't defend someone 5 inches taller than him. That was always an issue. A precise pass was one he could rarely defend. However, his coverage was usually solid:
In an ideal gameplan, Bob Sanders would be a 2 down player, with Paul Oliver coming in for coverage duty, and Steve Gregory being his substitute. If he could stay healthy, he definitely provides a presence on the field and has plenty of ability to play. Whether that is enough for him to remain on the team we'll find out soon enough. But can either Steve Gregory or Paul Oliver truly take his place? Gregory was bad against the run (first pic) and worse in coverage (second pic). He's not quick enough and he's not disciplined enough to play deep or middle, and not physical or strong enough to support in the run.
Steve Gregory just is not capable of playing at Strong Safety. He's a backup at best and should be used on special teams as a priority and not as a starter on defense. Paul Oliver is far better in coverage and just slightly better against the run than Gregory, which means he'd be a better free safety backup behind Weddle or start at Strong Safety for passing downs. Regardless of what happens with Bob Sanders, Paul Oliver should be the in the mix more often than Gregory, and with Darrell Stuckey joining in, the offseason battle for Strong Safety should be interesting and one to watch if a rookie also has a shot.
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by Richard Wade on Feb 21, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Will do, sorry about that.
To expound: he was good in limited action, but then he went on IR and we ate the contract for fourteen games. Just as many of us predicted. And I don’t think it’s reasonable to suspect that such an injury-prone player, who isn’t getting any younger and is coming off another major injury, will be able to pull his weight as a full-time starter again.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Feb 21, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
I voted no.
I hope we make a move for a SS in the draft, and I’m also rooting for Stuckey to step up and make a strong push for the starting job. Either way I think the Bob Sanders experiment is O.V.E.R.
pretty sure it was a 2 year deal
If that is the case and he’s healthy(don’t laugh) I say keep him around until his roster spot is needed or filled with an ungrade.
by Ryan Cohoon on Feb 21, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
I still think he is a good strong safety
Although, I am also rooting for Stuckey to step it up and be the player. I think Bob deserves another chance, though I don’t think he is a priority to keep on this team. I say let him test the waters, and then sign him for the minimum we can. Don’t expect much and hope for the best.
I think Bob Sanders helped the Chargers defense when he was healthy
…that being said, I think he’s more injury prone than Larry English and comes with a price tag that’s too hefty for his on-field play. As the achievement in Madden NFL 10 went, you must be this tall to ride. So yeah, he’ll probably get a shot elsewhere and may surprise but the risk outweighs the reward.
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Bob Sanders was paid only $1M in salary last year
And got a $1M roster bonus.
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Ah, alright
Well, less than I expected, but I still stand by my statement. Half a million a game, or a million a game if he made the roster date is too much to be paying for a safety that wasn’t a notable game changer and who had a very obvious flaw against passing tight ends.
When considered, the lack of a real strong safety seems like a growing concern on the Chargers squad, especially with the advent of the pass-catching tight end. We’ll see how Stuckey pans out, but I think the Chargers should pursue a starting caliber strong safety in free agency.
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I don't think you should sign anybody in the offseason
With the expectation that they’ll play only 2 games.
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The roster date was just making the roster to start the season. So, they paid him $2M.
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I think having Sanders there in the preseason
Was important for Weddle and played a significant part in Weddle’s step-up to the elite level this season. I’d be happy to have him in a coaching position.
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I can’t believe how many articles there were on this during the preseason. It sounded like they were tied at the hip.
by Ferguson1015 on Feb 21, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
look elsewhere
they should look somewhere else, draft or FA for SS help…Sanders got hurt and couldn’t stay on the field, with that said means he didn’t really help. I think we all knew that was going to happen when the Chargers signed him. He would probably play 7 or 8 games max, because of his style of play and he would end up injured.
I think there are some good points about him being around Weddle helped elevate Weddle’s game.
Until we find a better player ...
regardless of how many games he plays he is still our best option at SS. That being said, management HAS to know that he is not the long-term fix (and with his health issues not a reliable short-term fix either). One thing that I think Sanders has done throughout his whole career (whether vs run or vs the pass) his make plays – big plays. Some could argue that it was his play with the colts that finally allowed the great peyton manning make it and win the superbowl.
So if you get a legitimate SS in FA then yes that money could be used on another whole or gap or provide depth at another position (but then again how much $ could he really command by resigning him). If you draft a legitimate SS you still have to realize that very few DBs come into the league and dominate so Sanders would still probably be the day 1 starter. Plus you can’t deny that he had an effect on Weddle and he would probably do the same for that rookie SS that we drafted; thereby getting him up to speed even quicker.
If he is healthy then he can play. Maybe you sit him in the pre-season and and hope that instead of 2 games you get 4 – 6 out of him on a performance-based contract.
I forgot Bob Played
What would be the point of giving this guy anything more than a wave good bye
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Aj smith did a good job of giving him a small contract ( forgive me if im wrong ). If we could do it again and give him a chance i think it could help or what i mean giving him another small contract i believe its worth a risk…agree or disagree
by In need of the trophy on Feb 22, 2012 3:48 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Next story.
It was a one-year deal… He’s gone.
[ESPN:9/28/11] – San Diego general manger A.J. Smith made it clear in a statement that the Sanders’ experiment is over in San Diego.
"All we wished for Bob was good health and hoped to turn him loose to do his thing, which was being one great, physical, highly-competitive player," Smith said. "It didn’t work out for him or us, and we wish him the very best. He was with us a very short time, but made a positive impact with our team in many ways, and I’ll always appreciate that."
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