Did Manusky or Turner Lose More Talent to Injuries?
In Week 12 of the NFL season, I conducted an analysis experiment that quantified the impact of players lost due to injury by equating their value to salaries. Now that the season is over, this analysis can be completed using the full results. This time however, I'm going to put emphasis on which side of the ball (offense or defense) took the worst hit. If Norv Turner's players (the offense) had more salary lost to injury than did Manusky's guys (the defense), then maybe Turner deserves the pass he got. However, if Manusky had a bigger 'injury salary' then he may have been unfairly scapegoated.
| 2011 Charger Injuries | Offense | Defense |
|---|---|---|
| Salary Lost | $10,352,188 | $9,671,875 |
| Games Lost | 41 | 98 |
It turns out that they had a roughly equivalent salary loss, but Manusky had a staggering 98 total games lost. The defense lost a quantity of moving parts while the offense missed some really big hitters. It turns out that Marcus McNeill, Kris Dielman, and Antonio Gates accounted for almost 80% of the offense lost salary, while the defense had a large number of less important players miss almost the entire season (Luis Casillo, Bob Sanders, Larry English, and Jonas Mouton all lost 11 or more games). There have been plenty of points (mostly by Kevin Acee) made about Manusky being out coached or un-liked by the players, but this (admittedly limited) perspective shows he was just as hamstrung by talent and injuries as Norv Turner's offense. The full list of players and salaries that missed games is included after the jump.
| Defense | Salary Lost | Games Lost | Offense | Salary Lost | Games Lost |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Luis Castillo | $4,218,750.00 | 15 | Marcus McNeill | $4,375,000.00 | 7 |
| Bob Sanders | $1,750,000.00 | 14 | Kris Dielman | $2,812,500.00 | 10 |
| Shaun Phillips | $1,000,000.00 | 4 | Antonio Gates | $975,000.00 | 3 |
| Stephen Cooper | $618,750.00 | 11 | Ryan Mathews | $750,000.00 | 2 |
| Larry English | $508,750.00 | 11 | Malcom Floyd | $625,000.00 | 4 |
| Jonas Mouton | $500,000.00 | 16 | Patrick Crayton | $293,750.00 | 2 |
| Damik Scafe | $400,000.00 | 16 | Scott Mruckowski | $187,500.00 | 6 |
| Quentin Jammer | $234,375.00 | 1 | Mike Tolbert | $114,687.50 | 1 |
| Jacques Cesaire | $100,000.00 | 2 | Tyonne Green | $90,000.00 | 3 |
| Nail Diggs | $100,000.00 | 2 | Brandyn Dombrowski | $75,000.00 | 1 |
| Corey Liuget | $62,500.00 | 1 | Louis Vasquez | $53,750.00 | 2 |
| Steve Gregory | $62,500.00 | 1 | |||
| Travis LaBoy | $125,500.00 | 2 | |||
| Marcus Gilchrist | $53,750.00 | 2 | |||
| Total | $9,734,875 | 98 | Total | $10,352,188 | 41 |
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I'll be interested to see
where we stand in Adjusted Games Lost for this season.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 9, 2012 10:05 AM PST reply actions
AJ banked on Sanders and English being healthy this season
That seems like a bad plan.
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They lost 10+ games from all sorts of guys they thought would get a lot of playing time.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 9, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
and in the case of the defense...
…expected major contributors in all three position groups – Castillo (Dline), Mouton/English (LB), Sanders (DB)
I was cool with the Sanders gamble
but if they really expected him to start more than a handful of games, they were deluding themselves.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 9, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Does anyone know whether Manusky or Turner made the decision on the Cason benching?
Maybe I should tweet Acee to see if he knows.
I think he's said in the past it was Manusky.
He also criticized him for it, and says Pagano will have to mend some fences there if he wants a decent contribution from Antoine.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 9, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Cason needs to get his head together
He needs his coach to have his back. Seems like he checked out when Manusky asked the secondary to play a different style.
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Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
strength and conditioning coach
is the main part for a lot of these injuries
by chargerclipperfan on Jan 9, 2012 11:51 AM PST reply actions
Sweet!
there will be a follow up tied to this article later on. Stay tuned…
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say sh-- or fu-- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Jan 9, 2012 12:33 PM PST reply actions
You know..
If you treat LaBoy missing game as a positive, shouldnt his salary be added back in, instead of subracted? The best money we spent on LaBoy was when he wasn’t on the field, it seemed.
by UTBoltFan on Jan 9, 2012 12:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
As disappointing as he was, I don't think LaBoy was a net negative.
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
And as for Mr Acee
Most of his reports are reactive and reports on stuff that we already know. I’d like to see more reporters with detailed analysis, proposed solutions or wit(nick canepa).

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