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Did Manusky or Turner Lose More Talent to Injuries?

In Week 12 of the NFL season, I conducted an analysis experiment that quantified the impact of players lost due to injury by equating their value to salaries. Now that the season is over, this analysis can be completed using the full results. This time however, I'm going to put emphasis on which side of the ball (offense or defense) took the worst hit. If Norv Turner's players (the offense) had more salary lost to injury than did Manusky's guys (the defense), then maybe Turner deserves the pass he got. However, if Manusky had a bigger 'injury salary' then he may have been unfairly scapegoated.

2011 Charger InjuriesOffenseDefense
Salary Lost $10,352,188 $9,671,875
Games Lost 41 98

It turns out that they had a roughly equivalent salary loss, but Manusky had a staggering 98 total games lost. The defense lost a quantity of moving parts while the offense missed some really big hitters. It turns out that Marcus McNeill, Kris Dielman, and Antonio Gates accounted for almost 80% of the offense lost salary, while the defense had a large number of less important players miss almost the entire season (Luis Casillo, Bob Sanders, Larry English, and Jonas Mouton all lost 11 or more games). There have been plenty of points (mostly by Kevin Acee) made about Manusky being out coached or un-liked by the players, but this (admittedly limited) perspective shows he was just as hamstrung by talent and injuries as Norv Turner's offense. The full list of players and salaries that missed games is included after the jump.

Star-divide

Defense Salary Lost Games Lost Offense Salary Lost Games Lost
Luis Castillo $4,218,750.00 15 Marcus McNeill $4,375,000.00 7
Bob Sanders $1,750,000.00 14 Kris Dielman $2,812,500.00 10
Shaun Phillips $1,000,000.00 4 Antonio Gates $975,000.00 3
Stephen Cooper $618,750.00 11 Ryan Mathews $750,000.00 2
Larry English $508,750.00 11 Malcom Floyd $625,000.00 4
Jonas Mouton $500,000.00 16 Patrick Crayton $293,750.00 2
Damik Scafe $400,000.00 16 Scott Mruckowski $187,500.00 6
Quentin Jammer $234,375.00 1 Mike Tolbert $114,687.50 1
Jacques Cesaire $100,000.00 2 Tyonne Green $90,000.00 3
Nail Diggs $100,000.00 2 Brandyn Dombrowski $75,000.00 1
Corey Liuget $62,500.00 1 Louis Vasquez $53,750.00 2
Steve Gregory $62,500.00 1
Travis LaBoy $125,500.00 2
Marcus Gilchrist $53,750.00 2
Total $9,734,875 98 Total $10,352,188 41

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I'll be interested to see

where we stand in Adjusted Games Lost for this season.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 9, 2012 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

They lost 10+ games from all sorts of guys they thought would get a lot of playing time.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 9, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

and in the case of the defense...

…expected major contributors in all three position groups – Castillo (Dline), Mouton/English (LB), Sanders (DB)

by Orz on Jan 9, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I was cool with the Sanders gamble

but if they really expected him to start more than a handful of games, they were deluding themselves.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 9, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he's said in the past it was Manusky.

He also criticized him for it, and says Pagano will have to mend some fences there if he wants a decent contribution from Antoine.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 9, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Cason needs to get his head together

He needs his coach to have his back. Seems like he checked out when Manusky asked the secondary to play a different style.

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by aesimpleton on Jan 9, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

strength and conditioning coach

is the main part for a lot of these injuries

by chargerclipperfan on Jan 9, 2012 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

Sweet!

there will be a follow up tied to this article later on. Stay tuned…

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by Superduperboltman on Jan 9, 2012 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

You know..

If you treat LaBoy missing game as a positive, shouldnt his salary be added back in, instead of subracted? The best money we spent on LaBoy was when he wasn’t on the field, it seemed.

by UTBoltFan on Jan 9, 2012 12:44 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

As disappointing as he was, I don't think LaBoy was a net negative.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 9, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

And as for Mr Acee

Most of his reports are reactive and reports on stuff that we already know. I’d like to see more reporters with detailed analysis, proposed solutions or wit(nick canepa).

by poryan on Jan 10, 2012 12:21 AM PST reply actions  

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