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Dean Spanos to Chargers fans " Screw you"!!!

Chargers fans have spoken. Week after week in pretty much every public poll regarding the Chargers, fans are in an outrage practically pleading for Spanos to get rid of A.J Smith and Norv Turner.

They have taken a very good team and prevented them from making the playoffs in the weakest division in the NFL.

" Maybe next year" that has been the motto for Chargers fans since the mid 60's. But now it should be changed to " "our oppinion doesn't matter".

In an abundance of good coaches and GM's that are going to flood the NFL market, the fans of the Chargers get to move back yet another step.

Forget Jon Gruden, forget Bill Cowher, and Jeff Fisher. No, we get a couple of guys that we know can't get it done.

Dean Spanos is the CEO and owner of a business that we fans are buying. Its a business we don't need. It doesn't make us better looking, smarter, feel younger, or improve our lives at all.

So Spanos is kind of like a supplier of a useless product. He relies on the fans solely to support his billion dollar empire, and we have.

I'm not a business man , but I would know that if " The good majority" of my customers aasked me to change my product, I would.

It appears we have no voice as fans, not even against a mediocre coach and a jackass of a GM that prove they cant get it done.

Heres the resume:

A.J Smith.
- Gonna screw up another draft this March.

Also, that little pointless win against the Raiders moved us from 11th to 18th in the draft. Sweet.
It wouldn't matter if we had the number 1 pick, A.J would pick someone nobody ever heard of anyway.

-Will will lose our 11th pro bowler in 4 years - (Vincent Jackson).
-

Won't take any shots in free agency

Norv Turner:
-Celebrated his 100th victory this year. Well after he recorded his100th loss.

-Nice guy- Players like him. This is because he doesn't discipline them.
Want proof? Read the Twitter page for the Chargers. Before their game with the Lions , with their playoff hopes on the line, before and after the game, there was dozens of Chargers players tweets

They mostly consisted of "tennis shoes, new cars, "hoes" and some jibberish that is almost unrecognizable. Only one Chargers player ( before or after the game) even mentioned football.

Ok, Read a disciplined teams twitter page ie. Steelers, Patriots, Packers.

There isn't muched because (THEY ARE FOCUSED ON FOOTBALL).
Thats the coaches job.

Greg Manusky-

Huge pickup from the (3-13) 49ers. Inherited the NFL's number 1 ranked defense, and turned the group into the 19th overall.
Meanwhile his 49ers moved to a top defense and a 14-2 record.

(This will be the perrenial fall guy for the Chargers this year). Last year it was Steve Crosby.

Jeff Hurd. (Conditioning coach)

Leads NFL in injuries three years in a row. Keeps job.
HOW?

Kevin Acee- (MR. IRRELEVANT)
Wrote several articles about Norv and A.J being gone, and discussing who would be in San Diego next.
On NFL Network today talking about Spanos' good decision in keeping them both.

Chargers fans-

Pissed off, and ignored AGAIN-

So here's the same back to you Spanos. Im gonna keep my two thousand dollars next year. Instead of buying your product, I'm spending it on my kids. I wont go to a game until you get 10 wins in the column. I know Spanos couldn't care less about the fans that support his business anyway, wer'e just here to wear the jerseys, drink the 9 dollar beer, and support a organization that doesn't care we exist. Enjoy the blackouts!

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by Stephen (shaynes41) on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

Jeremy,

as far as the Bolts are concerned, I haven’t been this dejected in 40 years. That window of opportunity that people talk about just slammed shut, and to be honest, I really don’t blame Norv. Not the best coach, but not the worst either. He has to run with what he’s given, and Smith doesn’t give him much. With the inevitable loss of Jackson and probably a few more starters, and with Manusky heading up the D, the Bolts will just keep getting worse and worse. Spanos and Smith obviously have no respect or use for the peasants that buy the tickets, after all, none of use are the football geniuses that they are. Want proof? Just look at our record for the past 3 years. Terrific huh? Jeremy, just take a deep breath, count to ten and remember it’s just a game….. Then break out the bottle of vodka.

by El Guapo on Jan 3, 2012 4:01 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

Ive read a lot of your posts, and I know you feel as bad as I do. LOL, its Captain Morgan here.

Jeremy Beckett

by JeremyBeckett on Jan 3, 2012 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Jameson here

The fans are going to be so loud they are going to hear us in the next Dimension - abayarde

by BillsFanSanDiego619 on Jan 4, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Spanos

has the balls of a little girl.

The players went to bat for Turner, NOT AJ SMITH!!!!

by MacDeezul on Jan 3, 2012 4:03 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

little girls have balls? you people are acting crazy as shit.

by soulSD on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Took balls to make this decision knowing what the response would be. Agree or disagree with it. You can't deny that.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 3, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I think he was thinking more about the contract payouts of Smith and Turner. Which makes sense. Pocket the 12 million, and the fans will forget why theyre pissed in 9 months when the season kicks off, and pay whatever he asks. he didnt become a billionaire by luck.

Jeremy Beckett

by JeremyBeckett on Jan 3, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Except that $12M would have been a lot less when they both went out and immediately got hired by other teams.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe it would have been $6 million, but...

If Dean indeed made his decision based on money and/or because he was afraid of taking a chance as Clayton and Trotter have alleged then no I don’t respect the decision all that much.

by BruinsBolts on Jan 4, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I see no reason to doubt that he didn't make the decision because he thought it was in the franchise best interest.

A man that was willing to fire a coach coming off a 14-2 season is afraid to fire one coming off an 8-8 campaign? I don’t see it.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe so,

but apparently Marty was fired for being insubordinate, so there is a difference in that sense. He also may not have liked Marty all that much because apparently Spanos really likes Norv and AJ as people, which may be another reason he stuck with them. I don’t think Spanos would ever say anything other than it was purely a football decision, so we’ll probabaly never know for sure.

by BruinsBolts on Jan 4, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Different reasons, definitely. I just think it's absurd to label him a coward.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I speak

for the guy in the mirror, and right now he’s saying " FIRE SAPNOS"!!

Jeremy Beckett

by JeremyBeckett on Jan 3, 2012 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this "Fire Sapnos" thing a meme or common typo?

I’ve seen this written several times and it sounds like it’s coming from people who really mean it, but “Sapnos” always makes me giggle.

by Jobumoplata on Jan 4, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Meme based on common typo.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I do...

Dean, throw in a 65 inch LED, prime rib dinner and a Blaupunkt
and we’ll call it even.

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Jan 3, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

He can host a lottery for fans to call in plays. Instead of settling for 50 yard field goals ( vs Broncos Nov 27), we can win games the old fashioned way, like at least trying for a touchdown.

Jeremy Beckett

by JeremyBeckett on Jan 3, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

While I was in favor of Norv leaving

I don’t think that his staying is nearly as tragic as most seem to believe. The Chargers were a fumbled snap from winning the division and that is with Rivers playing like crap for two months of the season.

I really don’t think that big changes are needed to compete in what to me is a fairly weak AFC right now. A majority of the AFC play off teams have trouble scoring more than a touchdown on any given week (CIn, Hou, Den, Pitt), New England has a great O with no D and the Chargers played them pretty well this year. Baltimore has a great D with an up and down O and the Chargers kicked their ass this year.

I am usually more negative than most but I expect Rivers to play well next season and I see no reason why this team will not be right in the AFC hunt for the Super Bowl.

by JeromeB on Jan 3, 2012 7:22 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Houston Only Does Not...

have a good offense because their starting QB and star WR have been injured. They are on their third QB, so what do you expect?

by BruinsBolts on Jan 4, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

It doesn't take much

to outperform the QBs in this division. That is the main reason that the AFC West sucked this year and couldn’t bring a team to the table with a better than 8-8 record.

Rivers is the only good QB in this division and until one of the other teams make a a change there is no reason that the Chargers should not be winning this division every year.

You don’t think that Rivers had an “off” season?

by JeromeB on Jan 5, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

By his standards, he had an off season. He was still one of the top 10 in the NFL.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 5, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with you, he has set a high bar and he needs to play at (or near) that level for this team to be good. I was in no way tring to put Rivers down as a player. Just pointing out that he is the man and as he goes so goes the team.

by JeromeB on Jan 5, 2012 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

We're always ONE BIG TRAGIC EVENT away from winning the division or winning in the playoffs under Norval.

At some point, either Norv gets rid of the BIG TRAGIC EVENTS or he’s fired… of course, that’s how normal organizations that care about winning and don’t reward mediocrity act.

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by 82-0 on Jan 4, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Show me a team that fires a coach with a >.600 WPCT and no losing seasons.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I am not sure what Big Tragic Events you are talking about

but there are not many NFL Head Coaches, or teams, with a better W/L % than Norv during the years he has been in San Diego.

by JeromeB on Jan 5, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

No its not tragic.

Its good for 8 or 9 wins. However with a team that is very close to be winning a super bowl, we are looking at a closing window. for the following reasons.
1. All of our good players that havent been cut (Rivers, Gates, Floyd, Jackson, McNeill, Philips, are 30 years old.
2. Numbnuts is drafting project players in the first round.
3. Were tired of gangbanger Raider fans bragging on 30 year old Lombardi trophies.

Jeremy Beckett

by JeremyBeckett on Jan 3, 2012 9:02 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

You're calling Mathews and Liuget "projects"?

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by creanium on Jan 3, 2012 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

Liuget didn’t crack the starting lineup. Has performed decently for a rookie. Has good moments, has bad moments. Couldn’t replace incumbent Cesaire… All this results in the tag a “work in progress”.

Matthews – year 2. Still hasn’t fully claimed the #1 spot at RB for a number of reasons: 1 not a good pass blocker, 2 appears to be injury prone, 3 had a fumble problem. This guy was your #1 draft pick, and to make it worse you traded up to get him. Although he did perform pretty decently this year (when he was healthy) and appears to be capable of holding down that #1 spot at RB; it doesn’t change the fact that you traded up to get him for your #1 pick in the draft and you still aren’t 100% sure he is going to be the guy for many years….. “project” may be a little strong of a word, but in no way can you consider him a 100% drafting success as the #1 overall pick.

by MacDeezul on Jan 4, 2012 5:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think you watch Charger football games.

Liuget IS the starting DE for the team, and he even gets nickel package reps. And he’s better than Cesaire.

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by Superduperboltman on Jan 4, 2012 7:10 AM PST up reply actions  

And to add on to that, Mathews was the most productive back in the AFC this year.

I have no idea what this guy is talking about.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

That's OK

Neither does he.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

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by Buck Melanoma on Jan 4, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

That brings me little comfort.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

really?

Afc Rushing leaders (including injured who would have ran for more):
Based on Rushing Yards Per Game.

1. MJD
2. Arian Foster
3. Fred Jackson
4. Darren McFadden
5. Ray Rice
6. Willis McGahee
7. Ryan Matthews
8. Reggie Bush

He is 6th in the AFC for yards per carry for runners with more than 100 attempts.
1. Fred Jackson
2. Darren McFadden
3. Ben Tate
4. CJ Spiller
5. Reggie Bush
6. Ryan Mattews
7. Donald Brown

Receiving (catches):
1. Ray Rice
2. Chris Johnson
3. Mike Tolbert
4. Arian Foster
5. Ryan Mattews
6. Dexter McCluster

Receiving yards per game:
1. Arian Foster
2. Fred Jackson
3. Ray Rice
4. Ryan Matthews
5. LaDanian Tomlinson

Most productive back in the AFC this year? No. You wanna argue that he was probably top 5? Sure I let you argue that. But MOST PRODUCTIVE? No.

by MacDeezul on Jan 4, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

He led all AFC backs in DYAR. Your raw yardage stats aren't persuasive.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree

Numbers are numbers. Just like any statistics you can make them say whatever you want them to say. Obviously leading all the AFC backs in the “DYAR” (whatever that is) didn’t get the Chargers to the playoffs nor a winning record…. so…..

by MacDeezul on Jan 4, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Numbers are numbers. That's brilliant. Remind me not to bother talking to you.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

And excuse me. That was overly rude. Sorry.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Let me try again.

DYAR is a defense and context adjusted individual statistic that measures the cumulative value of all of the plays by an individual player (in which they got a touch or target).

Trying to dismiss an individual accomplishment because it didn’t result in team success when we’re trying to evaluate an individual player strikes me as foolish. Your mileage may vary.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I sorta understand

but I still think that maybe the value or weight of the DYAR may be a little skewed or maybe “generous” (?). So I’m not saying that its a worthless statistic nor that its the best statistic overall. I think I’m just saying that it DYAR is not the end all, be all – nor is the raw numbers. Either way I don’t see how someone can realistically say that Ryan Matthews was the most productive RB in the whole AFC and we even get out of our own division.

by MacDeezul on Jan 4, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The offense was pretty good. The defense and special teams just sucked.

Maurice Jones Drew was one of the other most productive backs this season. How’d his team do? Do you doubt that he was productive because his team sucked?

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No which is why

the title “Most Productive Back In the AFC” is neither appropriate or impressive to me. However in MJDs defense he led the entire NFL in rushing yards so as a running back in the NFL that holds way more merit to it than the best DYAR score in the AFC.

by MacDeezul on Jan 5, 2012 5:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Means more to you out of familiarity only. DYAR is a more meaningful measure.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 9, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

that's what we are missing here

understand that our defensive line, nor our front-seven this year for that matter, was effective at rushing (pressuring) the passer. They really weren’t all that effective at stopping the run either. So let’s just say there are 32 defensive lines in the league…. where does San Diego’s defensive line fall in the rankings of those 32? (I understand its hard to compare a 4-3 line to a 3-4 line but lets just say you can). I say they are probably somewhere around 20 (no statistics to back it up, just a feeling). So if you are a “starter” on the 20th ranked defensive line in the league does that mean you are a quality and bonafide #1 draft pick (he was picked #18 overall) and defensive lineman?

by MacDeezul on Jan 4, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

In support of your point, 20th is probably generous.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You got me on that one.

I am not yet sold on Liuget. I was more refering to the recent first round gems
Sammie Davis, Cason, Buster Davis, Larry English, Luis Castillo,, Shawne Merriman, and Antonio Cromartie. They were a huge help this season.
But Matthews is decent for a 1st 2nd and 4th round we paid.
So maybe we can remake that Meat Loaf song for our first round picks, ( 1 out of 8 aint bad)

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by JeremyBeckett on Jan 4, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

not fair

sammie davis was picked right after butler died, not on AJ.

Cason can still be a good player
B Davis = Bust
English = all but a bust
Castillo = good solid player (look how garay suffered without him taking double teams)
merriman = great player for a couple years, good pick
cromartie = great player for a year (and traded for a second round pick) success
Luiget = too early to tell but a good rookie year
mathews= looks of a star

so more like 6 out of 8, not 1 out of 8

by cameronm on Jan 4, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You shouldn't get decent outta

a player you traded your 1st, 2nd, and 4th round picks for. Ask Atlanta (for Julio Jones). That kind of price tag almost demands a top 3 RB in my opinion or at the very least an every-down starter.

by MacDeezul on Jan 4, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Mathews is a lot more than decent.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope so.

He made good strides this year I think. Still room for improvement I think; he is probably a little bit better than average I think.. maybe somewhere between the 15 – 20 for all the RBs in the league.

by MacDeezul on Jan 4, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

it wasn’t for 1,2, and 4. it was for a 1, 2, and a SWAPPED 4 (an earlier 4). God. I’m sick of you yahoos makin up stuff.

by BORTZ on Jan 5, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

being on the East Coast

in the DC/Baltimore/Philly/Cowboy viewing area I don’t SEE many charger games at all. But if he is/was the starter…. it was a very quiet season for him.

by MacDeezul on Jan 4, 2012 7:19 AM PST reply actions  

I live in DC

and the few games televised here all showed Liuget as the starter in every game. He’s played more snaps than all other linemen except for Vaughn Martin.

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by Superduperboltman on Jan 4, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

true but

3-4 ends get praise and recognition from people in-the-know by comparison because they understand the role they play; same can be said of good NTs in the league – of which Garay has began getting some compliments due to his play.

by MacDeezul on Jan 4, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The only time defensive ends get mentioned on TV is when they're sacking the QB

If BFTB has taught me anything, assessing how good a defensive linemen is in a 34 is significantly more nuanced than how many times a guy gets mentioned by the announcers.

And as I was saying to people calling Mathews a bust before this season even began:

The guy only played one season in the NFL. Give him a chance to figure it out.

by Jobumoplata on Jan 4, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Especially for a guy playing a new position.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Got it.

young guy – check
really young guy – check
rookie – check

Knowing ahead of time that your defense needed a instant starter and play maker but selecting a project DE who never played DE in a 3-4 before – check mate.

“He can play either tackle position in a 4-3 defense or possibly a DE in a 3-4. Although he does not have great straight line speed, he plays with such tremendous energy and tenacity. He explodes off the line and often gets the upper-hand simply from hitting his opponent first.”

Weaknesses:
Does not possess closing speed
Needs to develop pass rushing moves
Still working on stamina and conditioning
Not much experience

Summary: Corey Liuget ended his collegiate career a year early and went out on a high note with an impressive showing in the Texas Bowl. He was used in multiple spots on the Illinois line which is a valuable asset heading into the 2011 NFL Draft. His best fit appears to be a penetrating tackle in a 4-3 front.

Overall Stock: Corey shows the potential to be a solid NFL starting defensive lineman for many years. He has experience at multiple positions along the defensive line. It’s possible that a team may look at him as a 1 or 5-technique, but I believe he belongs at the 3-technique in a 4-3 in order to maximize his full potential. He can be a quick, gap shooting defensive tackle that lives in the backfield. I love his motor and the way he plays the game. Would like to see him develop more pass rush moves and as a pass rusher overall. Could stand to hit the weight room to add more strength. At this point in time, I don’t think he can handle constant double teams. On draft day, Corey could hear his name called as early as the middle of the first round. However, I see his value being in the late first to early second round range.

by MacDeezul on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

So what I am saying is

that he wasn’t a bad pick. Hell I will even go out on the limb and say he was a good pick. BUT he wasn’t the RIGHT pick at #18 overall.

by MacDeezul on Jan 5, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Who was? With hindsight now, who would you have taken instead?

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by Richard Wade on Jan 5, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

that is a GREAT question

we had pick 18. I wanted Kerrigan who went at 16 to the Redskins but thought that Prince Amukamara CB or Jimmy Smith CB was the way to go once he was gone. Prince was selected at 19 by the Giants; Jimmy Smith went 27th to the Giants. But if we were stuck on the DE/OLB position then I would have preferred Cam Jordan who went 24th to the Saints.

by MacDeezul on Jan 5, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I rec'd this and I am a Bronco fan

And I really have no idea why Spanos would keep Turner and AJ Smith, especially when Jeff Fisher is available. In some regards I would give Turner a pass, but to me, AJ Smith has been an awful GM, to let guys like Turner and Sproles go, and piss off your best players, I really have no idea why he has lasted as long as he has.

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by Broncoman on Jan 4, 2012 4:00 PM PST reply actions  

I disagree on several points.

A.J. Smith is the guy who acquired all of these talented players that were then let go. The only one that I think you can really point to as a mistake was Sproles. As for pissing off our best players, Philip Rivers, Antonio Gates, Eric Weddle and the other top players who all signed long term contracts don’t seem to be pissed off.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd sign Norv to a lifetime contract

before accepting Fisher.

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by Buck Melanoma on Jan 4, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Everything was spot on with this. I didnt even think of our trainer, he probably is one of the worst trainers. its been a while since the last time the chargers had even three quarters of their full team…

by yaboikhoi on Jan 9, 2012 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

SD

has to be better than 8-8 with a top 5 qb and a top 3 passing game the running game is good enough in today NFL u need to fix your OL and DL and get a pass rush LB

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by j-man on Jan 10, 2012 4:13 PM PST reply actions  

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