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Stadium Thoughts and Musings: 2012 and the Upcoming Apocalypse

Now that the Chargers have finished a highly disappointing season, we have to now turn our thoughts towards the offseason. Some have projected that 2012 will be the last season for the Chargers in San Diego.

With that in mind, let's take a brief look at what has changed in the last few months, and what milestones we have ahead of us for the next few months.

We'll also take a brief glimpse at other teams that have been rumored to move to Los Angeles in the coming years, and see what has changed for them recently.

More below the jump.

Star-divide

Norv Turner and A.J. Smith are retained

The bottom line is that this was not a popular move among the majority of Chargers' fans, and it will not help in generating community support for a new stadium. It will likely impact season ticket sales for 2012.

That being said, any prospective stadium vote will not come up until November 6th at the earliest. By that time, the Chargers will have played at least 8 games. If the team's record by that time is 6-2 or better, odds are that fans will come out and vote yes, and possibly sway other voters. On the other hand, a traditional slow start with the team sitting at 4-4 or worse would likely torpedo any yes vote on a new stadium.

Of course, Chargers Special Counsel Mark Fabiani also said that the team would be willing to finance a special election in spring of 2013, presumably following one of the following events a) the Chargers win (or reach the Super Bowl), b) another slow start is resolved with a fast finish and a playoff spot, or c) the Chargers miss the playoffs, resulting in the firing of Norv and A.J. and the hiring of (insert dream head coaching candidate here).

Since the Chargers were unable or unwilling to make a splashy coaching change (i.e. Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden), the next best hope for generating offseason interest lies with:

Potential Free Agent moves

The perceived notion is that the Spanos family is cheap, in truth, they have never been afraid to spend money. In 1998, the Chargers led the league in free-agency spending ( LT John Jackson, LG Aaron Taylor, RB Natrone Means). John Butler was not shy about spending Dean Spanos' money in free-agency either (remember QB Doug Flutie, DE Marcellus Wiley, CBs Alex Molden and Ryan McNeill, ILB Donnie Edwards, and WR David Boston?). A.J. Smith has signed many in-house Chargers to long term, big money extensions (Rivers, Gates, Weddle, Marcus McNeill most recently), but he has simply chosen not to spend money in free agency as a matter of policy, except to fill holes when needed (i.e. Marlon McCree, Kevin Burnett, Randy McMichael).

This season, however, Smith and Turner are facing the "win-or-else" non-ultimatum, and will certainly not hesitate to spend if they believe the player is the difference between keeping and losing their jobs. The Chargers have holes to fill on the roster, especially on defense. Are fans are going to hate Smith and Turner with the same vitriol if, say, Robert Mathis, or Mario Williams take Shawne Merriman's old spot at the OLB?

Author's Note: I am not advocating the signing, or guaranteeing the availability of either player. These are names that most average football/sports fans know, and create the biggest buzz. I leave it in Wonko's capable hands to identify the best fits for the Chargers.

California kills Redevelopment

On December 29th last year, the California State Supreme Court upheld a bill passed by the State Legislature to essentially kill all local redevelopment agencies, and redirect the money back to schools and local governments. The bill was passed as an attempt to close the gap in California's budget deficit.

Redevelopment programs were initially established as a means for cities and countiesto fund new projects to help combat urban blight and neglect, while using the tax revenue generated to fund additional projects.

What the means for the Chargers is that if (and it was actually a significant if) the area of downtown east of Petco Park qualified as a "blighted area," redevelopment money could be spent to help fund the project without relying on additional revenues such as taxes. Since any tax increase in California requires a 2/3rds affirmative vote, it means that many major urban renewal projects on the planning boards, excepting those already in progress, are now deader than Billy Batts after his last trip to the bar.

The NFL's Stadium Loan program is reinstated

On December 14th, the NFL (flush with coin from the newly completed CBA) announced the return of the Stadium Loan program. This program was used to help fund the construction of 12 new stadiums since the mid 1990s, but had run out over the last couple of years.

For the Chargers, and the city of San Diego, this means that anywhere from $100-$200 million might be available if a financing plan can be created to build a new stadium in San Diego. The question I, and some others surely have, it whether that loan money offsets the city's contribution, or the Chargers' contribution.

Questions aside, it's still a potential (and significant) source of revenue, especially with the estimated cost of the facility ranging from $800 million to $1 billion dollars.

Mayor Sanders has hired a consultant to help identify financing

On October 12, San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders hired George Bilicic of New York-based Lazard Ltd. to put together a financing plan for a new stadium with the Chargers, San Diego, and county of San Diego all participating. The plan is expected to be made public in March of this year, to allow for 8 months of fine-tuning and politicking before a November 2012 vote.

In an article published in this morning's Union Tribune, a couple of interesting tidbits came out. Sanders states flatly that any financing plan will not include a tax increase, Sanders himself saying: 'We made it very clear to Lazard we are not going on the ballot for a tax increase because that’s simply not going to happen. You don’t have to hit me in the head with a hammer twice," referring to a ballot proposition that failed in 2010. Also, the article also states that the Chargers have (temporarily) tabled their idea for a stadium-convention center.

The biggest news in the plan is that Sanders was projecting a public cost of around $38 million per year over 30 years. Do the math, and you come up with the public cost at $400 million. As it stands now, here's my projected money breakdown:

Stadium Cost: $800 million - $1 billion.

Public investment: $400 million.

Chargers Contribution: Anywhere from $100 million - $200 million (Here's the sticky part about the NFL loan - is that the Chargers' contribution, or does the loan come after the Chargers' contribution?).

Naming Rights fees: $150-200 million.

Other potential investors:?

I still don't understand why the city isn't discussing the idea of selling the Qualcomm and Sports Arena sites to help cover/reduce the public costs.

Will the Chargers activate their Qualcomm Escape Clause?

Yesterday, the Chargers (in conjunction with the city of San Diego) announced that they would not be using the "escape clause" in their lease for 2012. Every year until 2020, the Chargers have a window From February through May to escape their lease and negotiate with other cities. As of right now, early termination of the lease would have cost the Chargers about $24 million, with the number decreasing by $2-3 million each year.

What's happening with everyone else?

The Jacksonville Jaguars have a new owner who has already publicly said that he does not want to move the Jaguars from Jacksonville. Also, with the sale, it was revealed that the lease for the Jaguars runs through 2030, and as of now, would cost somewhere around $120 million to break early. Factor in a relocation fee to Los Angeles, and the cost becomes prohibitive.

Jeff Fisher looks like he's going to be the next coach of the St. Louis Rams, although it appears he has concerns about taking a 2nd job where he might have to relocate within a couple of seaons. After the 2014 season, the Rams can escape their lease because of language that states that the Edward Jones Dome must be in the top 25% of stadiums in the NFL.

The Vikings and the city of Minneapolis are working hard to find alternate locations and financing to keep the Vikings in Minnesota. The Vikings had favored a site in the Minneapolis suburb of Arden Hills, however, there are now locations in Minneapolis that are being examined. Key in all this is that the Vikings lease with the Metrodome has expired. As it stands now, the Vikings are on the market, and can leave without paying any kind of exit fee.

Anschutz Entertainment Group (AEG), the business entity behind the propsed Farmers Field, is currently waiting on a released Environmental Impact Report (EIR) to determine if they can go forward. Furthermore, according to this column by T.J. Simers in the Los Angeles Times, Dean Spanos has told AEG that a) he's not interested in selling a minority share of the team, and b) apparently, he is non-plussed by the Farmers Field concept.

According to AEG President Tim Leiweke, the EIR should be completed in Februray, and possibly approved by the Los Angeles City Council during the summer.

Closing thoughts

As with Norv Turner and A.J. Smith, it appears that 2012 will be the make-or-break season for the Chargers and the city of San Diego. Especially if you consider the twin timelines for potential San Diego and Los Angeles projects...

February: AEG expects to complete the EIR for Farmers Field.

March: San Diego and the Chargers release a financing plan.

Summer: The LACC approves the Farmers Field EIR; the Chargers are seeking signatures to place the proposal on the ballot.

Fall: Norv Turner and A.J. Smith either save football in San Diego, or kill it for the foreseeable future.

More than ever, it's GO time!

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One minor update to the other potential LA players.

The Vikings Arden Hills plan is dead. It was killed by the governor yesterday as unlikely to succeed.

http://kstp.com/article/stories/s2444154.shtml

by athletics68 on Jan 10, 2012 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

as much as I hate TJ Simers

his article on the state of the LA stadium and the who might move does a decent job of laying out everything and throws some cold water on the perception that any NFL team in LA is a done deal.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Jan 10, 2012 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

Private Bond Offering

I wonder (because I have no idea) whether the NFL would allow for a private bond offering to take place to finance this thing. We understand that the NFL has disallowed public equity ownership of NFL teams with the exception of grandfathering the Packers so I guess that would rule out a convertible bond. But I really don’t see the people of San Diego agreeing to put up $400MM in city money to do this deal whether or not the Chargers win the Superbowl.

I am a season ticket holder and rabid fan and yet I really can’t justify using public money on this kind of project right now considering the state of our budget. This is especially the case when the city is being asked to put up the largest pro-rata share of the equity for this. If somehow the NFL, the Chargers, and the city would contribute equally, then I’d say fair enough, but that isn’t what its looking like right now.

Practically every street in my neighborhood is racked with potholes and lousy patch jobs, so the city clearly isn’t spending what is needed on upkeep and repair of infrastructure as it stands. I don’t see how this deal, the convention center, the embarcadero project, the Horton Plaza park, downtown library, and the new city hall can all get done without raising taxes or some major budget cutting. Sanders is correct that tax hikes are a non starter, but he isn’t taking care of what we have right now.

It’s time to get real and explain how this can all pencil out.

by FroggyRuminates on Jan 10, 2012 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

What about our great plan that raise taxes on tourists only? Our language lays down the law to the NFL and Chargers that taxpayers are not suckers. The NFL loves. San Diego.

Mayor Sanders cannot sell our large public land assets, including Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley and the Sports Arena site in the Midway district, without a majority 50+1% vote. The planned November 2012 vote will be to eminent domain three existing businesses, destroyed the Historically designated Wonder Bread building, relocate the main MTS Bus Yard, and sell off our Qualcomm Stadium and Sport Arena to subsidize the Billionaire NFL & Chargers. There is no way Mayor Sanders/CCDC non-contiguous stand alone stadium built with public funds from the sale of our 2 big public lands, will get the 50% vote.

Since the contiguous Convention Center Phase III is already one year into the Draft EIR and CEQA review, construction of a new multipurpose NFL Stadium and Convention center could begin as soon as November 2012.

http://docs.sandiego.gov/councilcomm_agendas_attach/2012/Rules_120111_2B.pdf

http://docs.sandiego.gov/ccagenda_rules_ogir/r120111_Rev.pdf

This Wednesday January 11 at 9 am the City Council Rules Committee will be deciding on our plan to keep the Chargers in San Diego, by a 5 percent increase in Transient Occupancy Tax (TOT) for public infrastructure, roads, and parks only.

by LaPlayaHeritage on Jan 10, 2012 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

The city, convention center, and port

Will never go for the convention center/stadium idea. And rightly so. Conventions don’t want to be in a football stadium several blocks from their rest of their convention. That’s why the team has backed off the idea. It’ll NEVER happen.

by athletics68 on Jan 10, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Please see Pages 10 to 12 of the link below for our Contiguous Waterfront location on San Diego Bay.

www.tinyurl.com/20111225

Agreed. Mayor Sanders/CCDC’s preferred East Village site is non-contiguous. A deal breaker for conventioneers.

However NFL Stadiums that also serve as Convention Center and Meeting space is the same concept as AEG’s Farmers Field in LA. And now is the norm.

by LaPlayaHeritage on Jan 10, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Glanced through the proposal...

A big question. Does the City Council have the ability to raise the TOT without a 2/3rds public vote? No matter how good your proposal is, no tax increase will pass the 2/3rds barrier. If it is up to the SDCC, will not that money be earmarked for convention center exapansion?

Secondly, how do the hoteliers feel about your plan. I recall last year when the Chargers and Hoteliers got into a pissing match over potential raising of the TOT. It seems to me the idea was to take Fabiani’s stadium-convention center proposal, and move it from East Village to the convention center to make it palatable to the convention center folks.

"Egad!" Wile E. Coyote.

by Jeff (sliderockmpc) on Jan 10, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Also have you taken the environmentalists into account.

You are proposing a major in fill of San Diego Bay on a scale not attempted in decades.

by athletics68 on Jan 12, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

How is it a "norm" now just because AEG is proposing the same idea?

Last I checked no major convention centers had been built like this and other than LA (which is only conceptual) none are planned.

by athletics68 on Jan 12, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

The stadium deal can be done fairly simply

Pay for it, Dean.

Build it, own it, maintain it, rent it out as you see fit.

Let these entrepreneurial billionaires work things like this out w/o public help for a change. If they want/need to lease land, so be it. Let that owner them a competitive offer.

I’m well aware that this isn’t how it’s been or being done. Don’t care. Time to change the status quo.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Jan 11, 2012 9:42 AM PST reply actions  

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