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Chargers 2011 Week 1 Roster: 2011 vs 2010

Darren Sproles may be gone, but Vincent Jackson is ready for Week 1 this year.

To start the 2011 campaign, the San Diego Chargers return only 32 players from the 2010 opening week roster.  That means there are 21 new faces.  Two of those "new faces" are 2010 holdouts Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill.  Of the other 19, seven are 2011 draft picks, four were post lockout free agent signings, and one was 2011 undrafted free agent.  Of the 21 players from 2010 that didn't make it to this year's team, only Shawne Merriman, Legedu Naanee, Darren Sproles, Kevin Burnett, and Paul Oliver have a shot to contribute to another NFL team this year.  The three  position groups that saw the biggest change this off season were the wide receivers, secondary, and linebacking corps.  Football purists will be pleased to note that both the offensive and defensive lines maintain the best continuity on the team.  Let's take a position-by-position look at the Week 1 roster differences.

Wide Receivers
2010 (4) 2011 (6)
Malcom Floyd Malcom Floyd
Patrick Crayton Patrick Crayton
Legedu Naanee Vincent Jackson
Buster Davis Vincent Brown
Richard Goodman
Bryan Walters

Does anyone remember the Chargers entering the 2010 season with only 4 wide receivers?  I certainly hadn't until I looked at my records.  This group is vastly improved in 2011 almost purely because of Vincent Jackson.  After VJ, there's a huge drop off with three guys with virtually zero regular season NFL experience vs the loss of Legedu Naanee and Buster Davis.  We're carrying two additional receivers this year with emphasis on special teams with those spots (Goodman/Walters).

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Tight Ends
2010 (3) 2011 (3)
Antonio Gates Antonio Gates
Randy McMichael Randy McMichael
Kris Wilson Kory Sperry

I think it's safe to say that Kory Sperry will be an upgrade over Kris Wilson this season, as Sperry has been widely reported to have had an extremely solid pre season, while Wilson developed a case of stone hands when he was most needed during the Antonio Gates injury.

 

Running Backs
2010 (4) 2011 (4)
Ryan Mathews Ryan Mathews
Michael Tolbert Michael Tolbert
Darren Sproles Jordan Todman
Jacob Hester Jacob Hester

The running backs are tough to judge as upgraded or downgraded with the departure of Darren Sproles to go along with the drafting of Jordan Todman.  We can't exactly compare Sproles vs Todman straight up because it's so apples to oranges; Sproles was one member of a three back committee, while Todman will only contribute this year in case of injuries.  I would propose that the 2011 version of the running backs is better because a committee of two will be have better rhythm and less play calling predictability (we hope).

 

Quarterbacks
2010 (3) 2011 (2)
Philip Rivers Philip Rivers
Billy Volek Billy Volek
JT O'Sullivan  

In the quarterbacks, we have super stability and another roster spot lost to special teams.  This position group is essentially unchanged.

 

Offensive Line
2010 (8) 2011 (8)
Kris Dielman Kris Dielman
Nick Hardwick Nick Hardwick
Louis Vazquez Louis Vazquez
Jeromey Clary Jeromey Clary
Tyronne Green Tyronne Green
Brandyn Dombrowski Brandyn Dombrowski
Scott Mruczkowski Scott Mruczkowski
Adam Terry Marcus McNeill

I won't rehash the Marcus McNeill holdout or reanalyze the virtues of a consistent group of offensive lineman.  This group is also essentially unchanged.

 

Defensive Line
2010 (8) 2011 (6)
Jacques Cesaire Kris Dielman
Luis Castillo Nick Hardwick
Antonio Garay Louis Vazquez
Cam Thomas Jeromey Clary
Vaughn Martin Tyronne Green
Ogemdi Nwagbuo Cory Liuget
Alphonso Boone  
Travis Johnson  

The 2011 defensive line got significantly younger and more explosive via first round draft pick Corey Liuget.  The losses from 2010 were at the end of their careers (Alfonso Boone and Travis Johnson), or just struggling to hang in at the NFL level (OG Nwagbuo).  It's interesting that in 2010 we talked about the versatility of our defensive lineman, and had a different batch active every week depending on match-ups, but have yielded roster spots this year for special teams.

 

Linebackers
2010 (10) 2011 (11)
Shaun Phillips Shaun Phillips
Larry English Larry English
Stephen Cooper Stephen Cooper
Kevin Burnett Donald Butler
Brandon Siler Takeo Spikes
Antwan Applewhite Travis LaBoy
Jyles Tucker Antwan Barnes
Shawne Merriman Jonas Mouton
Brandon Lang Andrew Gachkar
James Holt Darryl Gamble
  Na'il Diggs

The linebacking corps has undergone a complete and total makeover.  If our expectations hold, and Stephen Cooper is IR'd after week 1, we'll be left with only two linebackers from 2010.  The team has an odd patchwork of high mileage vets and totally untested youth this year.  I'm going to label this group as a downgrade from 2010 due to the massive instability and unknowns.

 

Defensive Backs
2010 (10) 2011 (10)
Quentin Jammer Quentin Jammer
Eric Weddle Eric Weddle
Antoine Cason Antoine Cason
Darrell Stuckey Darrell Stuckey
Dante Hughes Dante Hughes
Steve Gregory Steve Gregory
Paul Oliver Bob Sanders
Donald Strickland Marcus Gilchrist
Fred Bennet Shareece Wright
CJ Spillman CJ Wallace

The defensive backs saw the second largest number of changes.  All four personnel changes have been for the better.  Bob Sanders blows Paul Oliver out.  Marcus Gilchrist and Shareece Wright have much more upside than Donald Strickland and Fred BennettC.J. Wallace is going to be a better special teams contributor than C.J. Spillman, because, well, how could he not be!?

 

Specialists
2010 (3) 2011 (3)
Nate Kaeding Nate Kaeding
Mike Scifres Mike Scifres
David Binn Mike Windt

With all due respect to Mike Windt, we're going to go ahead and label the specialists as a downgrade from 2010.  There's no shame in losing out to the Michael Jordan of long snappers.

In summary, five groups ought to be better (WR, TE, RB, DL, DB), two ought to be roughly the same (QB, OL), and two may take a step back (LB, ST Specialists).

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Great work, man.

Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 7, 2011 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I worry

about the LBs.

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 7, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

If we just had this year's rules last year they make the playoffs.

Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 7, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I am not sold that Kaeding will have as high a touchback %

as most seem to think this season. Due to the rule changes on kickoffs many teams may chose to return kicks that only go a few yards deep into the endzone and I am not sure that Nate can do much better than that.

by JeromeB on Sep 7, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sold

Kaeding was getting it 5 yards deep on some of the kicks, and even kicked it out on a few.

I think the short kicks (to the goal line) were intentional. I think they just wanted to evaluate coverage. Kaeding’s old short kicks used to be at the ten.

In this pre-season returners were taking ‘em out five yards deep. And why not? It is preseason. In a real game how many teams are gona allow the returners to take it out 5 yards deep? The returner has to get a 30 yard return just to make a modest gain. The risk just isn’t worth the reward. Kaeding will do fine. And he will have more touchbacks than returns.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 7, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kaeding will do fine, I agree

but he was not kicking off 5 yards deep into the endzone. One of the reasons kicks will be returned that are kicked a few yards deep is that coverage teams are limited to the distance they can be from the ball before it is kicked as well (another part of the rule change).

I promise you Kaeding will not have more touchbacks than returns this season.

by JeromeB on Sep 7, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

More touchbacks than returns is an absurd statement, but returns will be greatly reduced this year.

Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 7, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

More touchbacks than returns

was trendsearchers statement, I was just responding to it.
However if the Chargers had kept Schmitt I don’t think it would have been nearly as absurd a statement.

by JeromeB on Sep 7, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Certainly not as absurd, no.

Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 7, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good work!

Hard to believe Barnes wasnt signed until the season started.

by cameronm on Sep 7, 2011 11:34 AM PDT reply actions  

BTW

My corollary to Foilhat’s Cooper theory is that OG is back for week 2 after Coop is IR’d.

by Orz on Sep 7, 2011 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

why

is cooper IRed after week 1?

If they knew he would be IRed, they would cut him before week 1. After week 1 his entire salary is guarenteed (as a vet)

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 7, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to the foilhat theory of 2011...

His salary is basically guaranteed either way because of certain conditions (veteran status, never had a contract terminated, blah blah). If they cut him before week 1, they have to pay him full salary amount and he gets to sit on his couch at home while snacking on bon bons. If they IR him after week 1, they pay him the same, but he has to show up for work all season and be a psuedo coach. Or something. The theory hinges on the fact that no matter what they do they are already obligated to pay him his full salary no matter what; might as well make him work.

by Orz on Sep 7, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

lolz

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."

by Superduperboltman on Sep 7, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think DLine Depth is one of my bigger concerns

So getting OG back on the team and putting Cooper on IR would sit well with me. Maybe we could explore the DL FA options as well, put in a solid veteran like we did with our ILB. I am blown away that we entered 2010 with only 4 WR….makes the whole Vjack thing look even worse to me.

by chaplinesque on Sep 7, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still maintain we are deeper this year than last

Mainly because Martin and Thomas are usefull this year compared to last. Last year, they just sucked up roster spots and we had to hope we never had to use them. After a year of seasoning, they can service as good rotation guys and starters in case of injury without wide-spread panic.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 7, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martin has definitely looked better this year. He looks great against the 2nd stringers and decent against the 1st stringers, which is about the level you hope for with backups. Thomas hasn’t looked as good, but that NT position is harder to evaluate.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 7, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you but now it counts and its against only 1st stringers. I liked what I saw from Martin vs the scrubs, not sold yet on Thomas but I am hopeful.

by JeromeB on Sep 7, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to reply that our D-LINE depth is fine, but if Garay goes down, it’s probably better if Thomas rotate with OG

by Lightning Hobo on Sep 7, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Thomas could be useful

if we have a lead and forced the opposing offense to go run light / pass heavy while trying to catch up. He did not look stout on run defense, but did OK (occupied blockers) on pass rushing.

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by SDNativeinTX on Sep 8, 2011 6:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree

What I should have said is that I am worried if Garay goes down. The DE depth does look good.

by chaplinesque on Sep 7, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we lose our best player at any position that will suck.

Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 7, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Billy Volek

Will take us to the promised land.

6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.

That was fast.

by SD FTW on Sep 7, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Rivers could handle it

If we lost an offensive lineman.

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by Wonko on Sep 8, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure would still suck.

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Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 9, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice Job

I feel better about this years opening roster than I have in quite a few years. Most positions appear to be as good or better than last season.
This doesn’t concern me but I would have kept Schmitt to kick off as opposed to either the 11th LB or 6th Safety, I think he would have had a bigger impact on special teams than either of them will.

by JeromeB on Sep 7, 2011 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

This is actually the thought I've had since I found out he was cut

He seemed to have a great leg. Being able to put it through the endzone should have gotten him a spot on the team given last year. The only way to gaurantee a ball is not returned for a TD is to kick it through the endzone.

6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.

That was fast.

by SD FTW on Sep 7, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder why

He didn’t get a chance at kicking field goals/extra points in the pre-season? Maybe he wasn’t accurate at those. Cause I for one wouldn’t mind if kaeding got cut if we found someone just as good with a stronger leg. Like someone said, most his kickoffs were fielded somewhere between the 5 and 10 yard line. So, moving the ball 5 yards means his kicks will be fielded somewhere between the goal line and the 5. Which may help IF we can pin them inside the 20.

by irishlad on Sep 8, 2011 4:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Kaeding is the most accurate kicker in the history of the league, so good luck finding "just as good, but stronger."
Cause I for one wouldn’t mind if kaeding got cut if we found someone just as good with a stronger leg.

Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 8, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Composition will change

You don’t keep way too many guys. You start out with way too many, then figure out who’s not gonna make it.

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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That seems like a waste to me.

I’d much rather have the linebacker/safety depth than a kick off specialist especially with the new rules limiting the importance of kick returns.

Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 7, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can appreciate both sides of the issue

but it would have been nice to have the opponent start each drive at their own 20.

by JeromeB on Sep 7, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's certainly a benefit to having a kick off specialist, I just don't think it outweighs the cost.

Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 7, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

100% of the NFL games played so far this season

have had a kick returned for a touchdown.

by JeromeB on Sep 9, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This actually made me laugh.

Bolts from the Blue // "I eat cereal out of a giant novelty wine glass because it makes me feel fancy." - Britney Wade
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan

by Richard Wade on Sep 9, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does VJ make our WR corps much better?

Absolutely. I also believe that the subtraction of Buster gets some more promising youth/rooks extra reps which will increase the overall value of the group immensely. Legedu? Never really seemed to step up to the plate & the DUI sealed his fate.

I’m concerned about only 6 DL – wouldn’t take much to see this group head south fast. Also the ILB, who would improve by putting Coop on IR & letting him be a “coach” from the sideline. On the field he’s a liability, particularly in his injured state. And Spikes needs to step up … lots of bad angles & poor positioning in preseason.

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by Buck Melanoma on Sep 7, 2011 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Coop

I am a major Coop apologist, so keep that in mind.

I thought Coop played pretty well between the tackles even when injured. Outside of the tackles was hard to judge because the scrub OLBs did such a crappy job of forcing the RBs inside and holding a corner. This might sound crazy, but maybe the Chargers are holding onto Coop because he is currently the third best ILB on the roster even with only 1.5 arms, and not just due to some contract/CBA technicality

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 7, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possible

But they still might sit him until he’s healed/IR if his healing takes too long, It makes sense that the FO would consider putting him on IR to free a rooster spot and keep him coaching. That would also get him to speed on a future (assistant) position coach spot on the team.

by Lightning Hobo on Sep 7, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

VJax sets the tone

and changes the whole complexion of this offense, having him on the field makes Floyd and Crayton deadly. Phil Rivers has shown he can make any throw to any receiver, and that makes young guys like Goodman/Brown/Walters useful and dangerous as well.

LB is a complete unknown. I have high hopes for Donald Butler, but pass coverage over the middle has been a huge flaw to this defense for a while. One thing it has is speed-rushers, to get around the edge consistently and force QBs to step up, and I like potential of the DL to finish those type of plays. A bigger concern is how the LBs and DEs will play the run off the outside.

by mctrashhole on Sep 7, 2011 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

a couple of comments

David Binn was placed on IR, so any player who took reps and knows the team will be an upgrade over last year ( special teams without new nfl rule=good, with it=great, with new coach= appreciate what’s there fans). The LB group is iffy for many reasons, but I think just by looking at how talented the players there are, we can say we have high expectations for them. IDK about ya’ll, but I really hope Jonas Mouton gets some reps and flashes to show why he was drafted in the 2nd round, Donald Butler would have won the starting job last year, but an injury set him back, so let’s all hope he stays healthy. I’m pretty sure Butler was calling plays with first team in the first pre-season game, any thoughts on that? did it happen in any other game?

by john1 on Sep 7, 2011 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Orz

The tabular comparison by position was useful.

by HuangDi on Sep 7, 2011 9:44 PM PDT reply actions  

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