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Devin McCourty #32 of the New England Patriots breaks up a pass intended  Vincent Jackson #83 of the San Diego Chargers in the second half at Gillette Stadium. (Photo by Jim Rogash/Getty Images)

Despite the frustrating outcome and maddening mishaps, there were still a ton of good, bad, and interesting moments to revisit from the San Diego at New England Game.  Yes, we have to rehash the bad weeks too!  As is our new custom, we'll start you out with the edited highlights from NFL.com.  This week's highlight reel covers the following plays:

  • The Failed Jumbo, 3 TE Fourth and Goal by San Diego
  • Both Gronkowski TDs (both were against Eric Weddle)
  • The Vince Wilfork Interception, Including Jello-Jiggle Vision Replay
  • The Other Philip Rivers Interception due to a Collapsing Pocket
  • Both Vincent Jackson Receiving Touchdowns
  • The Mike Tolbert WTF Cutback and Fumble
  • The BenJarvus Green-Ellis Game Icing Touchdown

I was surprised the edited highlights did not include the semi-questionable Aaron Hernandez touchdown over Bob Sanders.  Am I the only one that thinks this catch *could* have been overturned, if reviewed?  It looks more solid in slow motion than in real time.

Now Updated with Mathews Sideline Collision with Arrington at the bottom...

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So apparently, Tom Brady is the grand arbiter of NFL injury authenticity.  Please file all appeals to his timeout denials with Gisele.

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Here is a great example of New England's decision to die-by-Jackson by taking out Antonio Gates.  Watch Gates attract defenders away from VJ.  This kind of thing is why Malcom Floyd came back to San Diego for less.


Next we have a couple of Mathews runs out of shotgun.  This formation and call combination was highly effective against the Patriots because it was used so sparingly (see Playbook Confidential posts!).  Note the high snap on the 2nd clip because Nick Hardwick was in a hurry to get his run block assignment going.



Onto a couple of Tolbert clips.  First up, we have the reason why Tolbert was in on the game losing fumble play.  This is what Tolbert was supposed to do instead of dancing at the line of scrimmage.  This play is an examploe of why I think we should lay off Norv for having Tolbert in on that particular play, and focus on the weird cutback decision by Tolbert.  The second clip here shows Tolbert pretending to chase a bad snap on yet another highly successful Hester and1 draw.  Maybe I'm just easily amused.



It wouldn't be a contemporary Chargers highlight package if it didn't include Antonio Garay blowing something up.


This next clip shows a tantalizing small but delicious taste of what the fanbase expected to see from Manusky in general, and against Brady in particular.  New England went five wide, and San Diego answered with press man coverage with a blitz.  This is a huge risk-reward strategy by San Diego, and in this case it paid off.  Note Eric Weddle getting run over by a TE.


We'll finish up with some big fourth quarter defense with the game on the line.  The third and fourth down sequence at midfield gave the ball back to the Chargers offense with incredible field position and all of the momentum, while being down only six.  We all believed a win was in the bag after this stand.  We also have the non-interception by Jammer - it looked A LOT  tougher to handle in the replay than in real time.


By popular demand, the Mathews collision with Arrington late in the 4th quarter along the sideline


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That ball was coming in waaay too fast for Jammer to pick it off

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."

by Superduperboltman on Sep 20, 2011 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Did it include

the Chargers’ D dropping like Tennessee Fainting Goats near the goal line? ;)

The Aaron Hernandez TD was absolutely the right call. If it looks more accurate in slow-motion than in real time, that should make the play as it was called pretty definitive, don’t you think? Officials review plays in slow-motion, not real time, so you can see the nuances and subtleties of each play that wouldn’t typically be caught at game-time speed.

Either way, it was a great game. V-Jax, like always, blew me away. There aren’t many receivers in this league better than him.

Can I Scream?

by Adam Fox on Sep 20, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Huge.

Did the sig give it away? Haha.

Can I Scream?

by Adam Fox on Sep 20, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They didn't review it.

So the subtleties and nuances were kinda well, irrelevant.

It's NEVER a shrimp on the barbie. It's not even a shrimp.

by The Land Of Real Beer on Sep 21, 2011 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate to be a downer but...

The Chargers always seem to mess up in a big game against a big team. Same old story. They are not going to beat the Steelers, Jets or Patriots in the playoffs so what’s the point? If they put on a good show and didn’t make any stupid mistakes, lost by 3pts or so, I would have been happy. This was the same old Chargers just like the last 31yrs I have been a fan. I have had enough. Going fishing, golfing or skiing on Sunday’s, let me know the score later in the day. I’m not wasting anymore time on this team. Have fun getting you heart broken for the millionth time, I’m having none of it.

"Dam it all if blood you spill, turns the grass more green." - Alice in Chains

by Effjay on Sep 20, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I havent seen a team of pessimists win a Championship yet.

Seriously, if you haven’t gone fishing before now, you should have. Judging a season on 2 games is like giving up a night of poker after 2 hands, when those hands were a pass and a bad draw.

If they had “put on a good show, and didn’t make any stupid mistakes”, they wouldn’t have lost by 3. More like won by 21.

It's NEVER a shrimp on the barbie. It's not even a shrimp.

by The Land Of Real Beer on Sep 21, 2011 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's why it's so frustrating

Knowing they can do it, but they always seem to find ways to lose.

by irishlad on Sep 21, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

How dare you say something negative about

Eric “makes the routine play” Weddle. He is the best player on our team, the best safety in the league and one of these weeks he is going to make a big game changing play when we really need it. Then your going to be sorry.

by JeromeB on Sep 20, 2011 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh man

the play I loved is where Mathews ran over somebody going out of bounds. I don’t know if you could grab that, but he absolutely demolishes the defender, and he just gives him this ‘what happened to you?’ look as he trots back on the field.

The play of chance and probability within which the creative spirit is free to roam. -von Clausewitz 'On Football'

by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 20, 2011 2:50 PM PDT reply actions  

My favorite too

I was wondering where that nastiness had been. Did u notice that guy got hurt on thqt play too?

"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith

by njg425 on Sep 20, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is really

running with authority now. He’s catching well out of the backfield. Once he gets the pass protection down better and doesn’t make the little mental errors like that missed route, he is going to be really good.

The play of chance and probability within which the creative spirit is free to roam. -von Clausewitz 'On Football'

by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 20, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice!!!!

The play of chance and probability within which the creative spirit is free to roam. -von Clausewitz 'On Football'

by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 20, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Penalty?

Why was that not a penalty on the Pats? Didn’t the defender hit helmut to helmut??

by AirCoryell74 on Sep 21, 2011 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

After

he has caught the ball and is moving up field and had an opportunity to defend himself, Mathews is a runner and fair game. The helmet to helmet only comes in for ‘defenseless’ players such as a receiver just catching the ball or a QB throwing. That’s my rough understanding anyways. Besides, on that play, it’s really Mathews that delivers the blow.

The play of chance and probability within which the creative spirit is free to roam. -von Clausewitz 'On Football'

by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 21, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was too pissed to enjoy our 1st TD,

because they didn’t even review the games 1st TD.
NOT EVEN A REVIEW?!?!?
All preseason they reviewed WAY less-questionable calls.

Then, an extra slap in the face, they stop the game mid-potential-comeback to review a frackin xtra point?!

Extra bullshit that that make loosing to the pats more aggravating than other losses.

by koloco9 on Sep 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Calvin Johnson & Louis Murphy

know that Aaron Hernandez’ TD would’ve been overturned.

by Foutsbeard on Sep 20, 2011 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Not a valid argument

If the D was playing better, I’d be more lenient. But we couldn’t stop them, so we have no right to complain.

"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner

by Cake or Death on Sep 20, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well out from halftime we kept them off the board for thw whole 3rdQ

and whats that have to do with reviewing any scoring play? Whats the point of the zebras new pager if they ain’t gonna use it?

by koloco9 on Sep 20, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Chargers defense had a pretty slow start

But my point is that the NFL has really mucked up something that should be relatively simple — what is or is not a touchdown? The “going to the ground” clause has been unequally applied, and the review-all-scoring-plays rule has been unequally applied. I think Aaron Hernandez had possession of the ball and two feet in the endzone. I grew up calling that a touchdown. I thought Louis Murphy’s Monday night catch 2 yrs ago vs SD was a legit TD, and Calvin Johnson’s vs CHI last year as well. Inconsistent application of the rules is the most frustrating thing about the NFL.

by Foutsbeard on Sep 21, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with what you're saying about the rule

But let’s not let that be an excuse. Maybe it was karma for the Louis Murphy TD.

"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner

by Cake or Death on Sep 21, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Asron Hernandez

catch was a TD no argument about it. well for those who would wonder why it’s a catch because recieve fell down and had position and after all that Bob Sanders punched it out, umm play is over, too late to play defense now Bob. Another thing was I didn’t think both TD were against Weddle (Both Gronkowski TDs (both were against Eric Weddle)) um…no I don’t think so, I believe it was Bob late on the play either way, it wasn’t Weddle by himself. I was watching the highlights and on Rivers first INT, Tolbert got tackled from behind(WTF) and on the second INT, you mentioned the pocket collapsing, any smart QB would of anticipated that, NE were blitzing on that play…there’s something called audible for a QB Rivers needs to get introduced to it, Overall I believe O line was great, Rivers and just questionable this game and defensively as much as I didn’t like the play call, I thought D did an okay job to keep the team in the game and that’s the most important thing.

by john1 on Sep 20, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

are you saying rivers isn't a smart qb?

That’s asinine.

…This is why baseball fans are so much more tolerable.

Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.

by Mad_Villain on Sep 20, 2011 7:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh yeh ...da chefs r nekst

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Sep 20, 2011 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

whoo hoo hooooo....sshhhh!!!ttt

That’s all I heard on the Mathews hit. Turn up the volume.

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."

by Superduperboltman on Sep 20, 2011 7:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Is it possible to get a clip of the run by Mathews that was a pitch to the left

and he got about a 10 yard running head start before he bowled through 3 defenders for a decent gain and injured one of them in the process?

That was my favorite play by Mathews on Sunday.

by jkvandal on Sep 20, 2011 9:36 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Overall

Rivers is smart, but even smart people do dumb things, that’s what happens when you are not prepared and that’s why I was saying Rivers should’ve anticipated it and if he did, then he didn’t put into account how much time he got…the whole point is we cry so much about NORV NORV play call and other stuff when other coaches have players keeping their jobs for them while Norv gets shit when his players don’t execute what he asked them to do…my point is be fair…or at least be more specific as to why the fault lies on that person.

by john1 on Sep 20, 2011 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Rivers makes great decisions and even greater throws

It’s hard to stop a throw mid-motion (unless you’re stretch armstrong) and if Clary could have held his blocker back just 2 more inches, Rivers would have had everything needed to complete the pass to Gates. You underestimate what it takes to play in the NFL and Rivers is one of the 5 best at his position. When you have 4 catchable balls dropped and your RB has one of the dumbest plays of all time, it’s hard to produce.

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."

by Superduperboltman on Sep 21, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I've been saying

Rivers makes dumb decisions from time to time. The only QB who doesn’t seem to do that is Brady.

"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner

by Cake or Death on Sep 21, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reality would be nice

Brady has thrown 3 picks in a single game against San Diego twice. Let’s not get carried away here. Brady is good. On Sunday he was brilliant. But no QB is perfect when they have pressure in their face. If you need a classic example, please see Brady in Super Bowl XLII against the NY Giants.

by SDreal on Sep 21, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brady also audibled out of a run play at the line and threw the ball right to Jammer

Every QB makes mistakes, it’s just a matter of being able to capitalize on those mistakes, and our defense just isn’t there quite yet.

by jkvandal on Sep 21, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

AHAHA

That’s funny Norv face is like forgive me for what I’m going to do to you in the playoffs. Norv looks like he got a Joker smile on his face “why so serious”

by john1 on Sep 20, 2011 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

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