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2012 NFL Draft - Scouting for Future Chargers Week 3

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One unfortunate outcome of the first game of the season was some serious injuries. When scouting for the next draft these injuries have to be taken into account. Last year, injuries to Buster Davis guaranteed  that Chargers would be looking at WR in the 2011 draft. Same goes for ILB when Donald Butler was lost for the season. Then again some injuries don't impact the draft at all. What kind of injuries did we see in week 1.

Luis Castillo's injury is kind of a cascade situation. Castillo will be back later this season or at the start of next season. However, it speeds up the evaluation process for his backups. Vaughn Martin needs to prove that he's capable of producing in this role, otherwise the Chargers may draft his replacement. Jacques Cesaire needs to show that he's capable of taking lots of snaps and staying healthy. How things go with these two will determine some draft choices.

Nate Kaeding's injury probably does not affect the draft. Even for those who want Kaeding replaced, the best candidate to do that is his new replacement Nick Novak. Novak signed a 2 year deal and in all likelihood will be in camp come next spring. Kaeding isn't safe (remember he's a free agent after 2012 anyway), but the situation will Novak precludes focusing scouting for kickers.

Jonas Mouton's lingering shoulder injury is hurting the Chargers ability to evaluate him on the field. Too much missed time and the Chargers will want more young competition at that ILB spot next year. Same goes for Vincent Brown. He's the only WR under contract past 2012 so he'll be here a while, but at some he needs to show whether he's a future starter. Larry English is getting close to Buster Davis territory, but his contract buys him more time and Travis LaBoy, Shaun Phillips and Antwan Barnes' contracts run through 2012 so there's no immediate need at that position.

Now on to the scouting.

Oklahoma
(1-0) vs Florida St.
(1-0) Saturday 9/17 5:00 PM PT (ABC)

As far as prospects go this game is fairly one dimensional. Oklahoma has a wide receiver  the Chargers should be interested in and injured LB that is Bolt-worthy, bu injured. Florida St. has their share of prospects (obviously since they are a top ranked team), just not necessarily ones that are fits for the Chargers. Nevertheless, this is a game where all these prospects will be facing top competition and will go a long way towards evaluating their NFL potential. The key man is Ryan Broyles. He's the Sooner playmaker and the Florida St. defense is stout.

Stanford
(120) vs Arizona
(1-1) Saturday 9/17 7:45 PM PT (ESPN)

I'll be at the San Diego St. game on Saturday and won't be able to see the Oklahoma-Florida St. game and Alabama plays around that same time. So, the top team I'll likely have a chance to watch is Stanford. By now many of you have heard of Andrew Luck. He is the name on everyone's lips. He's to football's draft what Stephen Strasburg was to baseball, LeBron James to basketball or Sidney Crosby to hockey. He's been a known top prospect since even before he was draft eligible. Current 49er Head Coach Jim Harbaugh brought him to even more prominence last year as the two of them led the Cardinal to an Orange Bowl win. Luck has the goods and is sure to show it on Saturday. However, the Chargers aren't interested (although maybe their division rivals will be), but he's got plenty of talent around him we can watch and Arizona has a wide receiver the Chargers should have an eye on.

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BFTB Scouting Targets:
Player School Pos. Class Height Weight
Ryan Broyles Oklahoma WR Sr. 5'10 187 lbs
Even though he's a different type of wideout than current Kansas City Chief Jon Baldwin, I see Broyles taking a similar path. At times he's in the 1st round conversation and other times people see him as a 2nd rounder. Some of that may have to do with his size (with Baldwin it was speed), but with Broyles' abilities I don't see that size as a problem. The one thing that would keep him out of the 1st is that there are number of really good WR prospects that have the height to go along with the tools he has. However, if he's the top WR on the board in the late first he's got to be a strong Chargers candidate. Just watch him, you'll be impressed. (1st or 2nd round)
Brandon Jenkins
Florida St.
DE Jr. 6'3 255 lbs
Excellent pass rusher, but only a junior so he may not come out. He's considered undersized for a 4-3 DE so a move to 3-4 OLB will be necessary, which is fine by the Chargers. This game is not the toughest test for him. He's got something to prove against the run, but he's not facing the greatest run offense. It'll be a chance to show off how good of a pass rusher he is, but Oklahoma's OTs are experience, but are only fringe NFL prospects. Landry Jones is pretty savvy, so that could be the biggest challenge for him. (2nd Round)
Nigel Bradham
Florida St.
OLB
Sr. 6'2 238 lbs
Smallish OLB that would be a 3-4 ILB candidate like Jonas Mouton. (3rd round)
NFL Prospects:
Player School Pos. Class Height Weight
Landry Jones Oklahoma QB Sr. 6'4 230 lbs
The #2 or #3 ranked QB that could be in this draft. (1st round)
Andrew Datko Florida St. OT Sr. 6'6 314 lbs
Good prospect, not a need for the Chargers. (2nd round)
Zebrie Sanders Florida St. OT Sr. 6'5 295 lbs
Another good OT prospect. This a great opportunity for a pass rushing prospect to emerge from Oklahoma if he can beat one or both of these guys. I'm not sure who that would be though. (2nd round)
Sleepers:
Player School Pos. Class Height Weight
Jamell Fleming Oklahoma CB Sr. 5'10 192 lbs
CB not a need for Chargers. (Late Rounds)
Frank Alexander Oklahoma DE Sr. 6'3 262 lbs
If he can be a 3-4 OLB, then that might increase his draft stock and be of interest to the Chargers. (UDFA)
James Hanna Oklahoma TE Sr. 6'3 235 lbs
A nice weapon for the Sooner offense, Chargers always looking for TE competition. (UDFA)
Beau Reliford Florida St. TE Sr. 6'5 255 lbs
Big target. Same note applies her as it did for Hanna above.

Coby Fleener, Stanford, TE, Senior, 6'6, 252 lbs (3rd round) - An even bigger target than the two TEs mentioned earlier. He's one of if not the top weapon for Andrew Luck. He hasn't missed a single game in his college career and durability would be a great quality in an Antonio Gates backup. He's an excellent pass catcher, runs his routes well, can get separation and can run after the catch better than any other of the current college TEs. He's not a 1st round pick because his blocking just isn't there. He shows potential in pass protection, but the run blocking needs work. Some of that can be taught, but some of it is good instincts about how to get leverage.

Shane Skov, Stanford, ILB, Senior, 6'3, 243 lbs (4th round) - The Chargers went to the Pac 10 (now Pac 12) well once before to get an undersized ILB in Donald Butler and Skov could be another such find. He's a hard worker who is fairly average across the board, but with no major weakness at the same time. He's a heady player who has the aggressiveness you want from a linebacker, but questions about athleticism, tackling and body control makes scouts wonder about any starting potential. Still, he has this whole year to erase those doubts.

Chris Owusu, Stanford, WR, Senior, 5'11, 195 lbs (4th round) - Possibly a Vincent Brown type. He plays for a top QB and he's about the same size. His production has lacked when looked at as a whole, but he's had some very good games. Some of that is due to injury as he's missed a fair amount of time over the years and some of it is that Luck has plenty of other options and he gets the best out of all them. As the senior leader of this year's wideout corps he should be a main target for luck and get a chance to show that he's a better route runner and pass catcher than scouts have given him credit for.

Delano Hall, Stanford, S, Senior, 5'10, 200 lbs (mid rounds) - A former RB who has the speed and size to play saferty in the NFL. He's still a work in progress at the position so some of his skills aren't up to snuff. However, he's shown some ability to get interceptions and the Chargers tend to like taking prospects with upside so he's on the radar.

Other Stanford Prospects: Andrew Luck, QB (1st overall) all eyes will be on him, but he's only on the Chargers radar as a future opponent; Jonathan Martin, OT (1st round) Luck's blindside protector is one of the top OTs prospects this year.

Juron Criner, Arizona, WR, Senior, 6'4, 215 lbs (2nd round) - His measurables are exactly what you want from a WR, but his speed is a question mark. His route running is very good and can pull off doubles moves and get over the top of the defense with NFL ability. His pass catching is very instinctual and smooth. No problems going over the middle of the field either. Hasn't quite developed yet as a run blocker, but with that size you'd think it could be taught. Very good prospect, just needs to prove that either he has the speed for the next level or doesn't need it.

Other Arizona Prospects: Nick Foles, QB (2nd) there are mixed reviews on Foles, some think he could start at the next level, others think he's at best a backup; Trevin Wade and Robert Golden, CBs (late rounds) a couple of fringey CB prospects, but good enough to test Owusu.

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I think the chargers do need to start rebuilding their offensive line. Our O line ain’t what it used to be. We haven’t been able to run the ball for a few years now. LT had a better year running behind the jets line than he had the last two years here. And clary gets beaten pretty often on pass protection.

by irishlad on Sep 17, 2011 8:41 AM PDT reply actions  

The first thing that needs to be looked at is the expired contract situation , then positional upgrades can be considered . The only two guys I see as being crucial are Garay and Hardwick so if their not extended before then those would be the top two areas of concern . 2013 appears to be a huge contract year for the Bolts with Philips, all the Gs , both starting CBs and Martin all requiring new deals so maybe AJ gets started early .

by threecubed on Sep 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I did that two weeks ago in this series.

And then revisited it again last week.

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by Wonko on Sep 19, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here and Here.

"Beating the Red Sox feels SO GOOD.! SO GOOD! SO GOOD!" -jbox

Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't

by Wonko on Sep 19, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been spending some time at patspulpit

And this piece of insanity showed in the fanshots

Thats 203 draft prospects by some bills fan. Hope you guys haven’t seen it and that I could be of help

by Lightning Hobo on Sep 17, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn

That WAS insightful. I’ll have to see if they keep doing this all season.

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by StrangeBroP25 on Sep 17, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prospect Watch

We’ll go defense if we’re smart , and I’m not saying we are . Guys I like for us – OLB/DE Melvin Ingram – Vontaze Burfict ILB – Manti Te’o ILB – Keleche Osemele OT/G -Travis Howard CB (JR) – Juron Criner WR .

by threecubed on Sep 17, 2011 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

well

I definitely think Chargers need to pick a good DT, MLB, and a Safety(maybe). I think DT and MLB is a must, but we’ll see.

by john1 on Sep 18, 2011 8:44 AM PDT reply actions  

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