5 Good Things: Minnesota Vikings at San Diego Chargers
Passing Offense
It would appear that, with their multitude of weapons in the passing game, the Chargers offensive gameplan is to simply take what the opposing defense gives them.
You want to put eight men in the box and try and get to Philip Rivers before he can get the ball out? Have fun defending the screen pass to Ryan Mathews or Mike Tolbert. Want to try and jam the Chargers WRs at the line of scrimmage? Vincent Jackson will gladly take the one or two deep TDs he can get from that.
The Vikings gameplan seemed to be to play both of their safeties deep and prevent those deep passes to Jackson and Malcom Floyd, while occasionally blitzing Rivers. What Norv Turner countered with was 15 passes for 144 yards and 2 TDs for his RBs, and 11 passes for 94 yards to his TEs. Most of these came off of screens, swing passes and low-risk passes over the middle of the defense. That's how you take what the defense gives you.
Passing Defense
Donovan McNabb finished with a completion percentage below 50%, and with less than 3 yards per pass attempt. Less than 3! He finished the game with just 39 yards passing. A third of those yards went to Adrian Peterson and Percy Harvin, the other 26 went to Michael Jenkins.
Once Antwan Barnes was playing regularly, there were really no flaws to the Chargers passing defense. The pass-rush was strong, containment got better, the CBs were blanketing WRs and even the Chargers LBs were doing a great job covering TEs and RBs out of the backfield. All in all, a great first game for Greg Manusky.
Mike Scifres
Is there anything Mike can't do? Apparently not. He can punt, he can hold, he can tackle, he can throw and now....he can kick! Along with having a very good (as expected) game punting the ball, Scifres also went 3/3 kicking extra points and nailed a 40-yard field goal to boot. He wasn't too shabby on kickoffs either. Word came out that Mike got the game ball for yesterday's game, and nobody deserved it more. Way to earn that new contract, Mike.
Running Backs
I know, they were already mentioned in the "bads" for not having a big day running the ball and earlier for being a part of the passing offense. However, the running backs deserve additional praise because they were the difference in yesterday's game.
Ryan Mathews seemed to be used to perfection, playing a similar role to that of Darren Sproles in 2010, and finished the game with 118 total yards. There were at least two plays when he looked like the most dangerous playmaker on the field, and that's going to catch the eye of Bill Belichick and force him to gameplan for Mathews next week.
Mike Tolbert continues to mystify. How the heck do the Chargers continue to find undrafted free agent rookies and turn them into stars in the NFL? The guy that my dad calls Natrone Means (I'm not certain if he knows that Tolbert is, in fact, not the former Chargers RB) was the focal point of the offense yesterday, especially in the red zone. He touched the ball 21 times, resulting in 93 yards and 3 TDs.
Chargers LBs
The position of most concern heading into the season ended up looking like the strength of the defense in Week 1. Shaun Phillips started things off by tipping a pass to himself for an interception. Takeo Spikes flew all over the field and finished the game with 11 total tackles, leading the team. Donald Butler, whom I was worried about in coverage, looked solid in doing everything that was asked of him. Antwan Barnes was nearly dominating as a pass rusher in the second half.
Larry English was a healthy scratch for the game, the coaches say he still has some rust to knock off on defense but will probably play against the Patriots next week. Darryl Gamble, the UDFA that won a spot with a strong preseason, contributed nothing but a missed tackle that lead to the Harvin kickoff return TD. If English had played instead of Gamble, we could be talking about one of the best all-around LB performances for the Chargers in quite some time.
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Except for the few times Spikes and Phillips
took bad angles and allowed big runs… I liked how Spikes plays. Smart. And I liked Bob Sanders.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Sep 12, 2011 12:20 PM PDT reply actions
Did you hear Spikes interview with Billy Ray post game
It was probably the most candid post game interview Ive heard. This guy is a born leader
Winning
He's one of my new favorite players.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Sep 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec. Me too!
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Thirded
Feel like he’s going to make sure this defense is emotionally invested in their performance.
by ElectricTerp on Sep 13, 2011 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions
What did he say?
I unfortunately did not hear this
by Jobumoplata on Sep 12, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont know how to really summarize it
but you can tell he actually loves the game. the guy is a bit of a phyco and a bit little kid, but 100% football player. very well spoken athlete as well
Winning
Is this what you're referring to?
http://www.chargers.com/media-vault/videos/Spikes-on-Peterson/62ef173d-79e5-4cab-a14e-833e166b0f86
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Sep 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
nope
the interview i was talking about was with billy ray on 1360 post game. ill see if i can find it when i go home
Winning
Hank Bauer.
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by Richard Wade on Sep 12, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Roster moves.
If Kaeding is not put on IR, who do they drop to sign a PK? I guessing Gamble or Coop.
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.
If he isn't IR'd...
Then Scifres kicks all Field Goals under 41 yards, and Norv calls the offense to go for every 4th down beyond midfield.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Sep 12, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I've often wondered if they could use Scifres to kick FGs.
He’s got a heck of a leg, and he’s very accurate when aiming for the corners. What’s to make you think he couldn’t kick long FGs?
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 12, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I've punted and place kicked.
they are very different. I can punt the ball farther than kicking it, if it’s not on a tee.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Sep 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
didn't he kick in college?
someone mentioned that to me today…
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Destroying your facts with opinions
he was a back up kicker
like in yesterday’s game.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Sep 12, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
By that,
I mean that maybe Scifres isn’t used to place kicking. His kick itself was accurate, but the technicalities were way off. Yes, it can work, but it can also fail miserably. Ball trajectory is low, and if he can’t put proper spin on it, the ball can slice away if he has to adjust to kicking from the hashmarks and not dead center with no wind. I’m not worried about ball placement, because Eric Weddle can catch a snap as well as he can catch a pass he plans to intercept.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Sep 12, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I was at the game yesterday and noticed his timing was pretty off on the second PAT. He was slow to the kick and that would probably lead to some blocked FGs down the line.
Scifres was out on the field really early during halftime to practice throught the uprights. He was out there several minutes before the Vikings ST guys came out.
It was also interesting to note that he didn’t take any warm-up kicks into the practice net when the offense was in FG range. I only saw Weddle practicing his hold.
Kaeding is going on IR
According to Norv in his Monday press conference. So that settles that.
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by Wonko on Sep 12, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ryan Mathews with the ball in the open field is special
If he can get 4-5 catches a game, plus his 12-18 carries a game, he will have a monster season.
He is scary looking in the open field.
He moves like Payton did.
Bob Sanders & TKO special!!
Made a difference on the field, the hitting level for the entire defense looked better, the tackling and pursuit were mostly spot on. The leadership of these 2 guys will probably be immeasurable.
I like that. TKO Spikes!
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 12, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
And the Sandman?
He puts your fans to sleep.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 12, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Loved how pissed off he was about the AP statement
The whole disrespect thing was awesome, the fire and pride, I haven’t seen that here in so long
is there a link to that?
they could use that motivation for the whole season.
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To be fair,
in the navy jerseys, Toblert does look an awful lot like Means.
His running style does remind me of Marion Butts
The getting low is plowing people is more Butts than Means, Natrone was a little less violent a runner than Butts.
Bringing back the Butts/Ronnie Harmon Combo?
I used to love that…although I’d hope Mathews isn’t akin to Harmon…
by ElectricTerp on Sep 13, 2011 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Great game yesterday
Seems like first game 1 in forever the Chargers won. Offense stunk first half, and it seems to do so every time Norv decides to “establish” the run by running first and second downs, and doing it again if it happens to get a 1st. Second half offense was more dip and dunk and let Rivers find the man who made a move on underneath coverage, which is what cover 2 will give you.
I would like to see Chargers establish the pass to open up the run, not trying to do it the traditional style. Colts have been pretty good a long time without a conventional running attack. The Chargers have the pieces to do it the same way.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 12, 2011 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Yeah. PASS MOAR.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 12, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
At least pass first
Run second
And not try to pretend otherwise.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 13, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I could be wrong
But I thought we have won 3 of the last 4 opening games.
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
3 of 5 (or 2 of 4)
W vs CHI
L vs CAR
W @ OAK
L @ KC
W vs MIN
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In the PR era
Week 1: 4-2
Week 2: 2-3
Week 3: 2-2
Week 4: 2-3
After Week 4: 46-15
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 13, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Health
I believe we’re all going to be happy with how the defense performs as long as D stays healthy. RM is a monster and if he stays healthy, expect a more comfortable player who will be a nightmare for opposing defenses
does it bug anyone
that he was succesfull in both passing and running. But if you take away the receiving facet of his game, like what will happen when we play a defense where we can throw to our wr’s, that he will get less targets and his numbers will decline. his rushing total was very poor. He needs to have better rushing totals: one because that means he’s doing what he was born to do run not catch, 2 because when he is not catching as much that means the receivers are catching more which is better for our offense, and three because there were times when the defense looked tired on sunday and when he runs more they get a longer break.
Also say this january we go to foxboro don’t you want running backs that are great at running and pounding, its hard to catch in the cold.
RM
isn’t a run and pound runner, so I’m not entirely dissapointed that he doesn’t do it, I never expected it. Our main issue is that our line isn’t very good at opening holes. There were a few big one on Sunday, but they were primarily when Tolbert was running. For Mathews to get better rushes, we need to get the line to create more holes. It is less his fault than it is the line’s.
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
taking what the defenses gives you..
i would like him to do that more often and prevent more 2nd/3rd an long. just move the chains.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Play calling / turn-overs in the Redzone?
4th n 20 on the 25 and you go for it?
- was this becuz they didn’t have a kicker (or so they thought)?
How many redzone turnovers are we gonna have?
- this is starting to become “pattern-like”, continuing from last year.
We didn't kick it because we didn't have a FG kicker
Scifres hadn’t even tried a FG or PAT yet, Without the practice, it was more likely to get the TD or first down than the FG. After letting him take some practices (short PATs, FG’s on the sidelines and at half-time) Norv was much more confident. We will never know if he would have made a 40 yarder the first time; some of his PAT’s barely made it.
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
that is understandable, buta an excuse all the same.
they did not expect Nate to go down in the first play of the game, nobody can predict that. however it’s a piss poor excuse your making for the chargers, for not having a, " hey what do we do if nate can Kick plan" in place.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!

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