San Diego Chargers Madden 12 Ratings Revealed
by John Gennaro on Aug 4, 2011 2:30 PM PDT
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PrintA couple of things to note before we get into the ratings.
- I stopped playing Madden after last year's game. I'm done with it. It was the same game every year with some new flashy, annoying thing that made it more difficult for the game to seem even semi-realistic.
- Madden ratings are not exactly handed to them on a piece of paper from the future or even done by someone who really knows what he's doing. They're roughly based off of the performance of the previous season.
- The Madden 12 ratings are being revealed but the rosters have not been adjusted yet. That means the Chargers Madden 12 roster looks like their 2011 roster with rookies added in. This means I can't tell you what ratings Takeo Spikes and Bob Sanders have because the 49ers and Colts haven't been revealed yet, savvy?
- Antonio Gates has been rated at a 99. That's cool. I remember when LaDainian Tomlinson used to get 99 in the game because they overestimated his speed. Still, this probably means Gates is the best TE in the game.
- Vincent Jackson is rated at 87, down from 90 last season. That probably drops him out of the top 10 among WRs. This paired with his fantasy football ranking yesterday leads me to believe that Jackson's coming into this year a bit underestimated because of his shortened season in 2010.
- Patrick Crayton is a worrisome. That might hurt the offense a little. Come on, A.J., sign Malcom Floyd! He's an 80!
- Buster Davis is rated at 71. That's higher than Vincent Brown, Seyi Ajirotutu, Richard Goodman and Bryan Walters(!).
- The highest rated RB is Darren Sproles. Grumble. Ryan Mathews and Mike Tolbert are tied at 77. Jordan Todman, with his 94 Speed (tied with Sproles), is rated at 62 at RB.
- Philip Rivers is rated at 96. His 98 Toughness is pretty awesome. His 84 Play-Action rating means that somebody was paying attention. El Capitan is pretty terrible at hiding the ball.
- The Pro Bowlers along the offensive line are all above 85. You probably shouldn't try and play Tyronne Green (66), Brandyn Dombrowski (66) or Steve Schilling (67) at RG in place of Louis Vasquez (80). If you don't like Vasquez, maybe give David Binn (69) a shot instead.
- If the Chargers LBs turn out the way Madden 12 is predicting, I should just start crying now. MLB ratings, in order: Stephen Cooper (83), Brandon Siler (77), Kevin Burnett (76), Darry Beckwith (68), Kion Wilson (65, which might be accurate), Jeremy Leman (60) and James Holt (54). Where are Donald Butler and Jonas Mouton, you ask? Well, they're pass-rushing OLBs of course! Butler is ranked at 70 at LOLB (Antwan Barnes is just ahead of him at 71), and Mouton is his backup at 61 at LOLB. The three ROLBs on the roster are Antwan Applewhite (77), Larry English (75) and Jyles Tucker (72). Like I said....tears.
- Nate Kaeding (93) is more awesome than Mike Scifres (83) at their respective positions. Remember that.
- Outside of the personal vendetta whoever made these ratings has against Vaughn Martin (53) and Cam Thomas (60), the defensive line ratings aren't terrible. Antonio Garay should probably be higher than 81 though.
- The secondary ratings are fine, at least until we know what Marcus Gilchrist and Shareece Wright are.
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Savvy?
Are you writing in your Jack Sparrow costume again?
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by Axion on Aug 4, 2011 2:33 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Apprently it's Scifres' fault
That the line in front of him couldn’t block.
"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas
Maybe he should try picking up a block before he punts.
Now that would be impressive.
by SoCalBoltFan on Aug 4, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want to know
who the hell is in charge of rating scifres every single year. 83 ovr is severely underestimating one of the top punters in the game. every year he’s rated 85 or lower
LBs Ratings
You say you rate the LBs in order, starting with Cooper. What about Shaun Phillips?? He’d obviously be the #1 ranked LB on the Chargers, then followed by Cooper.
What gives?
I wish Football Outsiders was in charge of ratings
Half of them are stupid. Look at this:
Weddle-4.48-84
Cason-4.45-89
Stuckey-4.49-89
Player-40yard dash-speed rating
My boy Luis Castillo ran a 4.79 and he’s the fastest Dlineman on the team, yet is listed at 65 speed…
Shaun Phillips, probably the best coverage OLB in the NFL is listed 47 and 52 in man and zone coverage. WTF.
I hate madden for that. And also, overrating players because of their hype and pro bowl voting. Yes, Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Marshall totally deserve mid 90’s ratings.
When I play madden, I raise and drop so many players on every team that it takes me 3 hours of setup before I even play a game.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Aug 4, 2011 3:27 PM PDT reply actions
I haven't played in years
But 3 hours of ratings adjustments would probably be on the short end from what I recall. Sometimes it would be solid days worth of work.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
No thank you
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
I'm not even sure they allow that anymore.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
They don't allow ratings adjustments
WTF IS THAT!?
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
I call b______t
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Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Quick look at the forums on the topic
It seems like there are issues with trying to adjust ratings once a franchise mode has been started. But, the way I remember it, you adjust the ratings and save it to a roster file, then load that roster file when you start the franchise mode and then let the player progression happen on its own.
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Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
ah yes
That makes more sense
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Aug 5, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Madden 12 and Antonio Gates
Gates may be rated at 99, but unfortunately he will probably play less than last year and most of that time in great pain. That foot problem that he has is not treatable (except with rest), let alone curable.
I don't get this thought process
Outside of the last 6 games of last year, the dude has been playing through this same injury for years.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
What don't you get?
He missed 6 games last year with this thing, and, as you say, somehow played through the pain in most of the other games. That was the first year that he hasn’t played in at least 15 games. Google this injury, and you will find that it isn’t going to get better. I suspect that he will not be able to play any more than last year. And when he does play, it has got to be near impossible to give an all-world performance
my theory
stems from the belief that he would’ve played the last few weeks of last season had they been meaningful. I think it was a 3-4 week injury (in the sense that it would actually keep him from participating in games) that’s getting way overblown.
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by John Gennaro on Aug 5, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
That's just not accurate
Plantar Fascia injuries can take a long time to heal, but are typically of the ‘nagging’ variety after treatment. You can’t just Google a medical condition and expect to understand it. Gates has access to the best medical care you can get anywhere and will make sure he’s in game shape. He’s likely to feel tenderness, but there’s no reason to believe he’ll experience significant setbacks so long as he takes care of himself, which is exactly what he’s doing.
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Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
He didn't just Google it
He also stayed at a Holiday Inn last night
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
You would think
when someone starts a comment with “that’s just not accurate”, that some facts or some citations would follow. Just your opinion or are you an expert on this injury? Maybe you got your info from Google? The words are very similar to what I read.
I stopped playing Madden after last year’s game. I’m done with it. It was the same game every year with some new flashy, annoying thing that made it more difficult for the game to seem even semi-realistic
Haha, I feel dumb paying for the same game every year, but I like how the Chargers actually win Super Bowls when I am general managing them.
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by Natrone Means Business on Aug 4, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions
So you listed Walter, Mr. Gennaro
are you saying that Madden thinks he makes the roster?!?! Do they also draw a comparison to…someone who shall remain un-named to prevent a frenzy?
I think it means he was on the Chargers Madden roster last season. Again, more proof that they don’t know what they’re doing.
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by John Gennaro on Aug 5, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
You guys are going to hate this, but a die hard Bronco fan actually helps with these ratings. Which is probably why some of our players are rated poorly.
You would think they would want to pump us up
If they beat us, it means they are better. When we beat them, it doesn’t look so bad to get crushed by a great team.
That's not troll logic, though
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Aug 5, 2011 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I jst want to know if they’re gonna get castillos position right this year.I sick of having to move him to the strong side and having gis ratings drop because of it. You would think they would get it right. He’s only like a six year vet now
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