Chargers Release Long Snapper David Binn
by creanium on Aug 30, 2011 11:13 AM PDT
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Well, color me shocked, but the Chargers have cut veteran long snapper David Binn, according to Kevin Acee.
Binn, as many of you are aware, is the longest-tenured member of the Chargers by far. He's played in 256 games as a Charger, surpassing the 200 games played by Junior Seau and Russ Washington; that's a stat that will be very difficult to break.
Having been with the Chargers since he joined the team prior to the 1994 season, he was the only remaining active player that was a member of the Chargers' Super Bowl team. Surprisingly too, he was selected to the Pro Bowl in 2006, when it seemed like the entire AFC Pro Bowl team was made up of all Chargers.
Binn missed nearly the whole season last year with a severe hamstring injury he suffered in the first game of the season. His absence is one of several factors pointed to in the historic Special Teams meltdown that plagued the Chargers last season.
Having that year off, coupled with his age - he'll be 40 this year - seems to have led to Binn not being as reliable as he once was. He already has injured his calf this pre-season and the team was concerned about his long-term durability. So now the Chargers are going forward with Mike Windt, who's younger and under team control for at least the next two years.
Acee tells us that Binn's snapping abilities have been solid, but the team is concerned with his coverage abilities. He also says a few players are definitely upset about this news.
The Chargers need to make 10 roster cuts today, and this is just the first. We will keep you posted as more cuts are announced.
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Can't wait to see him get inducted into Chargers Hall of Fame
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The one time I noticed Windt in the Cardinals game
He didn’t hold his lane and and got juked by a punt returner. I think I said in the open thread after that play that he’d get cut.
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wow
I was really ready for a relatively surprise free cut-down to 53. Sure the bubble players are interesting and an unknown, but I didn’t think there would be any veteran name guys getting cut…
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Aug 30, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions
Same here.
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Probably nicer
to cut him now. He would have more time to find another squad in need perhaps.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Aug 30, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
Not sure that at 40 he’ll go out and get another team. It’s still nice because if they think Windt is their guy, then he should get all the snaps on Thursday. Why string Binn along through another game if you’re going to cut him anyway?
Another thing that just popped into my mind is that it gives the players extra time to react to it. Let them lose a little focus (if any) this week instead of next week when they should be preparing.
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Here's a summary of the Long Snapper events from last year
The Chargers lose 21-14 against the Kansas City Chiefs.
David Binn is placed on IR (hamstring).
Free agent James Dearth is signed to a 1 year contract.
James Dearth is placed on IR (foot).
Free agent Ryan Neill is signed to a 1 year contract.
The Chargers win 38-13 against the Jacksonville Jaguars. They get a punt blocked.
The Chargers lose 27-20 against the Seattle Seahawks. No punts blocked.
Ryan Neill is placed on IR (knee).
Free agent Ethan Albright is signed to a 1 year contract.
The Chargers win 41-10 against the Arizona Cardinals. No punts blocked.
The Chargers lose 35-27 against the Oakland Raiders. 2 blocked punts.
Ethan Albright is released.
Free agent Mike Windt is signed to a 1 year contract.
The Chargers lose 20-17 against the St. Louis Rams. Blocked field goal.
The Chargers lose 23-20 against the New England Patriots. No blocked punts or field goals.
The Chargers win 33-25 against the Tennessee Titans. 1 blocked punt.
The Chargers win 29-23 against the Houston Texans. 1 deflected punt that goes for 1 yard and gets Scifres hurt.
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I'm not convinced those issues were caused by the long snapper
If the ball was hiked over the punter’s/holder’s head, I’d blame it on the long-snapper.
To me, the issues with the blocked punts and field goals had much more to do with the blocking by people like Applewhite.
You'd have to analyze each one individually
I know with Albright his snap times were significantly (relatively speaking) slower. Not positive on Windt’s, but I think I remember people clocking him as slower than Binn on snap time.
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Possibly worth mentioning
The team will save approximately a half a million dollars with this decision.
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I did the math on the official chargers wine – they bottled 17,000 bottles, at $25 a pop that’s over $425k gross. Just double the next official wine batch and we can keep Binn.
by Orz on Aug 30, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That wine took 53 years to get on the shelves
At that rate, even if you double the next batch, Binn will be 93 by the time the come up with that extra half million.
and still playing
The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.
"I'm so psyched, I'm gonna smoke a doobie and poop on my hot dog." --Dex
by StrangeBroP25 on Aug 30, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would rephrase it
And say it wasn’t a purely financial decision. It certainly does make it easier to cut someone with an injury risk and signs of aging if they are also more expensive.
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Sad Panda
not much more I can say… I’m sure they think their reasons are good but I just can’t agree… not at all :(
Just had a thought
The fact that they didn’t do this as a retirement is interesting. I would doubt that Binn wants to play elsewhere, but maybe it’s leaving the door open to come back midseason if there were an injury?
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Or maybe
Binn will say he’s retiring later today or tomorrow. Who knows.
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Sad news
"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
i threw a fanshot up...
of the rest of the cuts today.
"Watch out where the huskies go, don't you eat that yellow snow."- Zappa
The fanshot you posted
Is just speculation. There are only going to be 10 cuts today. The speculation in that weird slideshow thingy is for all the cuts. It was posted on 8/26.
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by Wonko on Aug 30, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
word
i did check the date tho, i read that it was posted today. must’ve been an update or something.
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Bummer
It won’t be hard for him to find a breast to cry on, though.
or implants.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Aug 30, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He's got plenty of mammaries
to look back on.
by Cake or Death on Aug 30, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Bummed, but expected.
Windt is a keeper.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 30, 2011 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
*half-expected.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 30, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This will probably get posted elsewhere
But the other cuts so far have been: Shawnbrey McNeal, Brandon Sullivan, Cameron Kenny, Vidal Hazelton and Travon Patterson.
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I don't know exactly half of those names.
…
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Aug 30, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly half?
That’s a neat trick with 5 names.
"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
by aesimpleton on Aug 30, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
he knows Cameron
but not Kenny.
"Who do you think wiil the replacement for Jerry Jr. Cabarra or Frederson"
by Natrone Means Business on Aug 30, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
exactly. Kenny?
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Aug 30, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
that was the joke.
mostly.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Aug 30, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I consider that a very normal reaction
To the first round of cuts.
BTW, on twitter John Gennaro guessed that the others will be: Jeremy Leman, Nick Polk and Michael Huey.
"Beating the Red Sox feels SO GOOD.! SO GOOD! SO GOOD!" -jbox
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Well, he got one.
Acee reports on two other cuts: OT Ryan Otterson,\ and LB Jeremy Leman.
"Beating the Red Sox feels SO GOOD.! SO GOOD! SO GOOD!" -jbox
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That's my count as well.
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Can we get him some recognition somehow?
A plaque or something hanging somewhere? He was the Charger who played the most games with the team. That’s gotta mean something (as well as how so many people and players looked up to him and respected him).
Even more important than that
he banged Pam Anderson. That means he’s a first ballot HOF for sure
Winning
I saw that mentioned on wikipedia!
I was like, when was the last time an ST player got so much “talent”?
you know what would suck?
if the chargers won the superbowl, after cutting the last charger to be in a superbowl.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
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