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Who's the Real "Dream Team": The O-line

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Again, I march along with my quest to (hopefully) find out that the San Diego Chargers roster is better than that of the Philadelphia Eagles (who are being referred to as "the dream team" by some). Today, we compare offensive lines...

When it comes to the o-lines, we have a lot less in terms of statistics to compare. I'll make do with what I have.

LT: Jason Peters (3rd year as starter with Eagles)
LG: Todd Herremans (6th year as starter with Eagles)
C: Jamaal Jackson (5th year as starter with Eagles)*
RG: Danny Watkins  (1st year as starter with Eagles)
RT: Ryan Harris (1st year as starter with Eagles)

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That asterisk is there because this is not really Jackson's 5th consecutive season as the starter at Center. He missed all but one game last year due to injury.

Also, this is a good time to mention that the Eagles went ahead and hired their Offensive Line coach of the last 12 seasons (Juan Castillo) as their Defensive Coordinator for 2011. Read that sentence again. Now one more time, slower. Are you still alive? You probably shouldn't be. The last time Juan Castillo coached defense was in 1989, and that was at Kingsville High School.....so, yeah. Dream team D-coordinator.

Taking over for Castillo is Howard Mudd, also known as the guy who took all the credit for Peyton Manning's incredible pocket-awareness and audibles (that kept him out of the way off pass-rushers) before retiring two seasons ago. So, in addition to having a Center coming back from a season missed to injury and new starters at RG and RT, the Eagles are going to coach up their line with a mediocre O-line coach that they dragged out of retirement (he's 69 years old). Let's add in a QB that holds onto the ball way too long and never stays in the pocket and this is a recipe for disaster.

 

LT: Marcus McNeill (6th year as starter for Chargers)
LG: Kris Dielman (7th year as starter for Chargers)
C: Nick Hardwick (7th year as starter for Chargers)*
RG: Louis Vasquez (3rd year as starter for Chargers)
RT: Jeromey Clary (4th year as starter for Chargers)

Much like his counterpart, Hardwick's asterisk symbolizes that he's been a part of the organization for longer than those 7 seasons. However, going off which player got the majority of the starts at the position, Hardwick was technically not the starter in 2009 (missing most of the season due to injury).

Hal Hunter is entering his 6th consecutive season as the Offensive Line coach for the Chargers.

 

Winner: Chargers. A lot of it is because of the consistency, but not all of it. Each season the Chargers line does a better job at protecting their QB than the Eagles do theirs (Donovan McNabb's concussions agree). That's a big deal in a passing offense.

When this was a running offense, the SD line broke all-time records and collected Pro Bowls like they were voted on by the Chargers fans themselves. Actually, between McNeill, Dielman and Hardwick, this offensive line has 7 Pro Bowl seasons. The Eagles have 4, all owned by Jason Peters and half of those earned when he was with the Buffalo Bills.

 

 

Running Tally:

The QBs - Draw
The RBs - Eagles
The TEs - Chargers
The WRs - Eagles
The O-line - Chargers

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Well dayum..

4 pro bowls all with the bills?
Trophy goes to tha Boltz

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."

by Superduperboltman on Aug 25, 2011 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

2 with the Bills

2 in the years since he was traded to Philly, but at least the one in 2009 was mostly due to reputation.

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

by John Gennaro on Aug 25, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just read it wrong. In any case,

He can’t be getting any better.

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."

by Superduperboltman on Aug 25, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Donovan McNabb’s concussions? He had plenty of injuries, but as an Eagles fan I don’t recall him having concussion problems ever…

Also, that argument is akin to saying the Chargers line is bad because Rivers has had knee injuries.

There’s also really no analysis here except that you think Mudd isn’t a good coach.

by mrb5091 on Aug 25, 2011 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

okay

Sacks given up by year

Eagles
2010: 49
2009: 38
2008: 23

Chargers
2010: 38
2009: 26
2008: 25

Happy?

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

by John Gennaro on Aug 25, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also spoke to the consistency in the line and the coaching of the line in SD, and the opposite of that in Philly. That’s analysis.

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

by John Gennaro on Aug 25, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah the reply button works....

I mean yeah what John said about the sacks….San Diego rocks!!!

by Gorditoe1 on Aug 25, 2011 12:23 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I'm still confused as to why their O line coach is now the DC

6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.

That was fast.

by SD FTW on Aug 25, 2011 12:28 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I heard

He just wanted to go back to D.

Are Marlon McCree and Antonio Cromartie the same person? Just askin'.

by QLFixBoy on Aug 25, 2011 6:01 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

he also received tutorage (word?) from J Johnson

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."

by Superduperboltman on Aug 26, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

O line analysis is so subjective.

There isn’t a lot of raw statistics, and stuff like sacks is so dependent on the play calling and Q back. P Rivers runs like a duck as mentioned above, so sacks come easier for defenses once they clear the O line. Both McNabb and Vick are evasive Qb’s so they wouldn’t necessarily eat a sack because of bad O line play.

And pro bowls is a popularity contest.

"Live to love and love to live"!

by Desyrel on Aug 25, 2011 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

And pro bowls is a popularity contest.

Not when you’re on the Bills.

by Cake or Death on Aug 25, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Enjoying the series

and impressed with how fair you have been.

by JeromeB on Aug 25, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

You know...

As a homer for the Chargers we all think we’d take all categories as I’m sure Eagles fans do too….but I agree this is turning out to be a good set of columns.

I know for sure the got us beat by a landslide with the special teams comparison.

by Gorditoe1 on Aug 25, 2011 4:53 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

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