Norv's Brain : Chargers at Cowboys
It's time for a preseason edition of my offensive playcalling analysis. For the Chargers at Cowboys game this week, I compiled the details for the entire first half, minus the meaningless end-of-half possession. This includes all three Philip Rivers-led possessions, and one with Billy Volek leading the rest of the entire first team. Before I get to some rollups and details, let's settle one thing: currently, Mike Tolbert is the new Darren Sproles on offense. There were six third down snaps this week, and Tolbert was in the game for all six. We can officially end Jordan-Todman-as-3rd-down-back watch.
I'm much more interested however, in the fact that Ryan Mathews was not used on third down even once. The surface conclusion is that Norv likes Tolbert's pass protection out of the shotgun better, but Mathews did see four shotgun snaps to Tolbert's nine, and nine passing plays overall against Tolbert's eleven. Time will tell if this is a preseason or small data-set fluke.
One ground-rule for play calling analysis is that I tend to focus on what was planned before the snap, and less so on the outcome. For example: a sack is counted as a planned passing play.
Norv's first half play calling and the first team offensive execution was on perfect schedule against the Cowboys. The run (12 plays, 38%) was used to keep the pass (20 plays, 62%) defense honest, as we're used to, and as we hope to see throughout 2011.
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Plays |
Pass |
Run |
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1st Down |
15 |
9 (60%) |
6 (40%) |
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2nd Down |
10 |
5 (50%) |
5 (50%) |
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3rd Down |
6 |
6 (100%) |
0 (0%) |
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4th Down |
1 |
0 (0%) |
1 (100%) |
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Total |
32 |
20 (62%) |
12 (38%) |
The interesting piece of Run vs Pass balance is that with the exception of two FB runs by Hester, all running plays came with 10 or more yards to go. There were twelve plays run with less than 10 yards to go, and ten of them were pass plays.
There were eleven plays with a fullback (all Jacob Hester) in the backfield: eight (73%) were running plays, with only three (27%) being pass plays. This will be something to keep an eye on for telling tendencies in the future. On the other hand, 100% of the thirteen shotgun formation snaps were passing plays (this is shocking!)
Turning our attention back to the Mathews and Tolbert usage subject, Mathews was on the field for 18 (56%) plays to Tolbert's 14 (44%). Mathews had seven carries to Tolbert's three. Does it feel like Tolbert only had three carries in that game? Tolbert was in the game on four out of five goal-to-go plays. There's your running back plan for 2011: Mathews is the lead back with the majority of 1st and 2nd down carries, while Tolbert is the 3rd down and goal-line back.
One footnote hinted at above: keep your eyes on Hester if there is one yard to go, he got the ball up the middle both times that distance came up.
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keep your eyes on Hester if there is one yard to go… he got the ball up the middle both times that distance came up.
Someone, probably Wonko, was stating yesterday that Hester was perfect in converting the one-yard-to-go runs last season. I buy it.
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He’s been doing em for a while now
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by traceSD on Aug 22, 2011 1:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It was me! (and probably 10 other people, too)
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by Richard Wade on Aug 22, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
You weren't there yesterday
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by John Gennaro on Aug 22, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
no but Richard and I had the same exact conversation
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Bolts from the Blue
it was Wonko
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I am in that group that wants to see more of Mathews than Tolbert
once the season gets underway. It’s still early, so I hope to see more of Todman as well.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Aug 22, 2011 12:18 PM PDT reply actions
I just don't see where Todman fits in.
Mathews and Tolbert both need to see the ball. Unless one of them gets hurt I am just not thinking that Todman will see the field much this year, except in garbage time. We all like to think that the new youngs are going be good but this team has a pretty stacked roster and I think it will be tough for too many of the youngs guys to contribute much at all.
Hell likely see time cause one of them will miss time
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by traceSD on Aug 22, 2011 1:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Due to injuries
"Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." -The Barbarian
by traceSD on Aug 22, 2011 1:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
this
Mathews needs to show me he can stay on the field.
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Here is the problem I see with Todman getting too many carries
Last season the Chargers RBs had 418 carries, the season before 385, so 400 is a pretty good ballpark of carries that are available for Charger RBs this season. Mathews missed some time last season and still ended up with 158, Tolbert 182.
My guess this season is that both Tolbert and Mathews are in the 170 ballpark, probably more for Mathews if he doesn’t miss more than a game or two. Then Hester probably gets 25 to 30 carries. So barring a major injury or a bunch of one sided blowouts I don’t see where he gets too much action.
Please note I am not anti Todman, he seems like a good young player who could have value one day. Who knows he may turn out to be even better than Gartrell.
Probably true
barring injuries. Liuget will probably start though and it sounds like Gilchrist will see some snaps.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Aug 22, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a good group to be in.
Tolbert can’t justify 200+ carries.
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by Richard Wade on Aug 22, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
My observation of the Chargers vs Cowboys
1. Our run defense looks very suspect. Granted Phillips was out, we still really need to focus on stopping the run.
2. I didn’t see any exotic blitz from the Chargers defense. I thought we were going to be more aggressive. I saw a very simple defense where Romo had all day to make a throw.
3. Our O-line needs to do a better job of opening lanes. Granted Dallas was blitzing like crazy, there were time where I thought we would break a big run but the poor blocking haulted our RB’s from doing so.
4. Pooooor tackeling- Too many times I thought our defense was going to make some great plays, they missed the easy tackles and paid by giving up big yards.
5. Mathews needs to start over Tolbert. I love Tolbert, but Mathews is the better runner. This is 2 pre seasons in a row where Tolbert started over Mathews. Mathews is clearly the better runner.
6. Bob Sanders is a beast. Great 1 on 1 stop against Jones where he basically sent Jones flying through the air. If this man stays healthy, we will have a very solid secondary and defense overall.
7. Everyone seems down on English, but lets remember. He’s recoverign from Foot surgery and it’s his first game back. I also saw him doubled a few times, but he made some nick tackles against the run. Let him find his comfort zone and he will be a very stout player.
8. Weddle made a beautiful intercepion. He looks more comfortable in the backfield knowing he has Sanders to watch his back. We might be seeing more gambles from both Weddle and Sanders that will help us out big time.
9. Vaugn Martin- If this guy continues to improve with every game, he will easily be the heir to Castillo. Very good night for Martin. I really got to see his strenght, speed and football ability on full display against the Boys. Very happy to see what he can do. Can’t wait for more.
10.. Liuget- Dude looks legit, I love how he persues and love his motor. They kid really doesn’t quit, just keeps going after it. Great speed, great use of the hands, great power and just a smart player. Very happy with the Chargers taking Liuget over Jordan.
Overall we had a pretty good game. Need to work out the run defense, tackeling and I want to see more pressure on the opposing QB’s.
I wouldn't be overly concerned with the run D just yet
We didn’t have Garay when they were moving the chains with running. He left and I believe Liuget was in for him
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
Phillip Tanner
If the cowboys tag Tanner on the Practice squad I hope we steal him. This kid looked very solid and was just a natural runner. I was very impressed by Tanner’s running ability.
Great breakdown
I do a similar thing when I watch the game and chart the run/pass breakdown by personnel in the game:
11 personnel = 1 RB, 1 TE
21 personnel = 2 RB, 1 TE
22 personnel = 2 RB, 2 TE
…you get the picture. I do this because the personnel grouping is the first thing that a defensive coordinator sees from the offense before he commits to a defensive play-call. For example, without even seeing a formation, if the DC sees that Norv is sending in 2 RBs and 2 TEs, he will more likely than not key up a play to stop the run. Anywho, once the regular season starts, I’ll continue doing this and either write up my own breakdown article or can pair up with you for your breakdown…or maybe I can do a “Norv’s Brain: Chargers at Cowboys…Part Deux” thread or something a day or so after yours.
Looks like I can’t paste my table here to show you what I do…shame.
Heeheehee... line up McMichael instead of Floyd, see if anyone stacks the box. :)
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 22, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Norv on Mathews from Monday
"Ryan is making great progress in the passing game and in the protection process, the third-down stuff. He had four or five outstanding plays in the scrimmages in the third-down packages."
We shall seeeeee….

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