Seahawks at Chargers: What to Watch for in Preseason Week 1
Football is finally back. Starting tonight, with the Chargers game, you can regularly plan your entire schedule around the sound of shoulder pads hitting shoulder pads for at least the next five months. FIVE MONTHS! Get excited, people.
What to for in tonight's matchup against the Seattle Seahawks:
Please Jammer, Don't Hurt 'Em
Injuries. I could name the most important players that need to stay healthy in this game (Philip Rivers, Bob Sanders, Takeo Spikes, Nick Hardwick, etc.) but what you should really be watching for is general health. If I remember correctly, despite a few injuries at training camp, the 2010 Chargers didn't have many (if any) injuries in their four preseason games. Let's hope for a similar outcome this year.
Paging Stephen Cooper
I have yet to talk to a knowledgeable Chargers fan this preseason without hearing the phrase "I'm worried about the Inside Linebacker situation". I understand it, because I'm worried too. Not so much about Jonas Mouton or Donald Butler being a starter, but about the lack of depth there. If two of those guys get hurt, do you know who gets on the field then? I'm not even entirely sure. Kion Wilson, if he makes the team, would be my guess. The undersized Andrew Gachkar might be another option. Neither are very good ones.
Watching Butler, Mouton and Spikes in this game will be fun and also important to the success of the defense. Watching who comes in for them once they leave, I suspect, will show a big hole on the roster and force the team to maybe go back to the free agent waters looking for a backup. Tim Dobbins would be suitable, but he's been snatched up by the Texans. Stephen Cooper would work well, but first he'd have to be certain that he can't get a starting job anywhere else in the league (I suspect he's waiting for an injury, or a Channing Crowder retirement, to force a team to give him a chance).
There are a lot of good ILB options out there as free agents, both if the Butler/Mouton thing blows up (Kirk Morrison or Lofa Tatupu are still out there) and if it does not (Dhani Jones, Chase Blackburn, Eric Barton and Hunter Hillenmeyer are just some of the guys looking for new homes). Which group the Chargers keep their eye on probably depends greatly on the performance of all of the ILBs tonight.
Trial By Fire
A point I've made in years passed is that many NFL teams seem to hand important starting roles to rookies, and yet the Chargers never did/do. I thought it gave a boost of youthful energy and enthusiasm to those other teams that the Bolts missed. This season, it looks like we might be getting a lot more youth than we have.
The rookies that are expected to start this game include Steve Schilling (in for an injured Marcus McNeill), Donald Butler (I still count him as a rookie), Marcus Gilchrist and Corey Liuget. Schilling and Gilchrist hopefully won't be starting a month from now, but it'll be fun to see them go up against first-team players all the same. Keep your eye on all of the kids on the team because, after all, they are our future.
Darrell Stuckey
The Chargers were really high on Stuckey last season heading into training camp. They thought, with Kevin Ellison out, Stuckey could slide in and be the starting SS with some luck. Then there were issues with contract negotiations, which left him behind. Then Darrell struggled to stay healthy until nearly halfway through the season, at which point he was strictly a Special Teams player. Not the best of rookie seasons.
This year, Stuckey has been moved to Free Safety (replacing Paul Oliver as Eric Weddle's backup) and has been showing off why the Bolts front office was so high on him last season. In the handful of practices that I've been too so far this season, Stuckey has stuck out (no pun intended) as someone who is constantly in the middle of the play. He makes it very hard for Wide Receivers around him when he's on the field, and he never seems to make a bad read. Just for the sake of comfort, it would be great if he could flash that same skill when he gets on the field tonight.
Just Left of Center
If I got anything from the Silver Fox's depth chart post yesterday, it's that Scott Mruczkowski tore his quadriceps and our third Center is a "beast" that's coming off ACL surgery (Colin Baxter). Uh oh.
Tyronne Green, drafted as a C/G and revealed to be a talented OT in a pinch as well, is expect to back up Nick Hardwick. He's suddenly in the middle of a very deep, talented and versatile group of backup offensive linemen on this team. If he can prove himself to be a good Center (a position he struggled with a bit when they tried him there), he could lock up a spot on the roster.
"Hi Dave"
The disconnect between Ryan Mathews (who thinks he's playing tonight) and Norv Turner (who seems convince that Ryan is not) is disconcerting, but at the very least it means there will be lots of carries left over for the lesser-known RBs on the team. Jordan Todman will get his chance to impress, as will Curtis Brinkley and one of two other guys (I'd love to see Brandon Sullivan, but I believe he's still dinged up).
Pass-Rush Specialists
I'm very entertained by the competition between Travis LaBoy and Antwan Barnes opposite Shaun Phillips. Barnes has missed a few days of practice lately, so he might not even play, but if he does it'll be interesting to see who can generate more pressure against the number one offense of the Seahawks.
The Usual Stuff
Mathews, Mike Tolbert, Philip Rivers, Vincent Jackson, Malcom Floyd, Phillips, Antonio Garay, etc. These guys should be watched and cheered for, for the one series or so that they'll probably be in the game.
Charlie Whitehurst
Swoon......
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I bet we get to see the ILB depth tonight...
a lot!
Norv would be making a big mistake to put too many reps on Spikes and Bulter. I think he should not even start ’em.
Who the heck cares if we start scrubs in a preseason game. Let Bulter and Spikes alternate / rotate in during Q2 & 3. At least by that time some of the edge will have come off the game.
CLIPBOARD Jesus
Has returned
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
Players I'll have my eye on the most:
1. Donald Butler
2. Corey Luiget
3. Marcus Gilchrist
4. Curtis Brinkley/Jordan Todman
5. Darryl Stuckey
6. Scott Tolzien
I second that.
and add in Stuckey, because I think he’s good.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Aug 11, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
if I can list any players that I’m not interested in seeing, with the exception of some starters due to injury concerns.
Is there another way to spell Broadway?
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by John Gennaro on Aug 11, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Brodweigh?
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by Richard Wade on Aug 11, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
About 150 lbs, on average. More in the midwest.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 11, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would be stoked to get Kirk Morrison or Dhani Jones
Why aren’t the Chargers trying to work a deal for Morrison? Morrison was a solid LB for Oakland.
I just want Dhani Jones cause I liked his TV show and he did a decent job in Cincy :p
First, Morrison has never played in a 3-4. It’s not like “Hey, we’ll throw you on the field and you’ll be fine!” He would have to learn an entirely new defense/position. Just because he was solid in Oakland a few years ago does not mean he’d be good in SD, plus he’d probably be expensive and wouldn’t want to be a backup.
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by John Gennaro on Aug 11, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Why would he be a bad fit for our 3-4?
I just wanted to know if there are specific reasons. I might be overrating his performance with the Raiders, but he was only in JAX for one year. It’s not like I’m saying, “Donnie Edwards was a good ILB in 2005, why don’t we bring him back?”
Here is why we only need 3 legit ILBs to start the season
(this is actually just my armchair mind-reading, not necessarily what I think we should do)
We’ve got Spikes, Butler, and Mouton active every week. That is all we need. If Spikes or Butler gets injured, Mouton steps in during a game. If both get injured, we’re in a bit of trouble, but we will still have Kion or Gakhar to play the position during the game. (If we had someone like Cooper, they would be inactive on game day and not available during the game anyways). Once the game is over, if the injury is serious, we can pick someone like a Cooper, Morrison, or Jones off the street and they can start the next week. Having a savvy vet as a backup ILB who can’t play teams and is inactive every gameday just eats up a valuable 53 man roster spot and doesn’t provide any in-game depth.
Plus, this year there seems to be a pretty good crop of street FA ILBs just sitting around, it’s like an unofficial practice squad.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Aug 11, 2011 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
If you were gonna go lean at LB that is a way to do it
but to me it all comes back to scheme. I think one of the big reasons teams play 3-4 is because, they CANNOT find the choice of people to play the 4-3; Specifically the DEs. The 4-3 is predicated upon good DL play. If there were tons of big guys available that could run fast and still take on the O-Line heads up, I think most teams would still be in the 4-3. But those 4-3 DE types are rare. (I seem to remember AJ saying this at some point in the past).
Linebacker-types are far more common, so your chances of getting a high caliber athlete at LB are better than finding the 4-3 DE. So you move to the 3-4. You say OK I’ll get one super big guy and two other plain ‘ol big guys put ‘em up front, and let the LBs round around them and make plays. The 3-4 is predicated upon good LB play. If your line backers suck, your defense will suck. If you are thin at LB and your #1 goes down, the whole defense goes down.
I think you want to be deep where your scheme dictates. In the 4-3 you want to be deep at DL. In the 3-4 you want to be deep at LB.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 11, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Suprised Dombrowski isn't starting at LT over Schilling...
Is it just a case where Domrbo is a known quantity and the rookie isn’t?
last time Dombro started against seattle
He put up the single worst game of any lineman ever in the history of football.
13 QB pressures and 3 sacks. All with a TE/RB helping him on chips
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Aug 11, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I remember that game.
It was pretty ugly.
by SoCalBoltFan on Aug 11, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Where in the world is this information coming from?
This is the first I’ve heard of them starting Schilling in place of McNeill and frankly, it doesn’t make sense.
John, do you actually have a source for this?
By the way, the only mention I can find on the Union Tribune site is that Dombo was taking first-team snaps after McNeill got his surgery. No mention of Schilling.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/aug/10/mcneill-out-two-weeks-following-surgery/
McNeill is out for a couple week after having bone spurs removed.
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No, that wasn't the question
The question was why Schilling would start over Dombo in place of McNeill, as John said in the original post.
Well, he didn't.
Dombo started.
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Friendly reminder: please don't discuss, ask for, or provide streams to NFL games.
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Even if the answer is a legal one?
I’m pretty sure if you check the official NFL website they are offering preseason games
I am, to be clear, only referring to illegal streams.
Thanks for clarifying.
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by Richard Wade on Aug 11, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Re: RBs, I'm hoping to see Isaac Odim tonight
I assume that he’ll get touches if he isn’t currently dinged, and I haven’t heard any news that he is.
If you haven’t seen his college work, go to youtube and search for “isaac odim college football career highlights”. I doubt that he has a chance to make the team, though. Maybe practice squad?
Perhaps his biggest selling point is ball security
then again it’s a huge jump from D-I college ball to the NFL, let along D-II to the NFL. He certainly made a lot of guys miss in the highlight video, but defenders are much better tacklers at the NFL level.
I’d be interested to see what he could do on special teams, particularly in the return game. It will be interesting to see what he can do tonight
Kick returners
Always an interesting part of the preseason. Maybe not so much on kickoffs since it seems a lot of those will got for touchbacks this year, but punt returns could still be intriguing.
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Kick Returns
I think will be especially interesting tonight. Due to the new rule changes.
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
Any chance Shawnbrey McNeal is in the mix
as a returner. Since they brought him into camp this year a couple days after the start maybe they think he can compete with Todman at RB and Goodman as a returner.
I doubt it.
Gilchrist and Crayton (plus Cason when healthy) are also return men in the mix. Brinkley is competing with Todman and that’s about it for the 3rd RB job.
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I didn't think too much of how McNeal looked last year
but it looked like they already had enough “bodies” in camp at RB so I thought it was odd that they signed him unless they thought (from what they saw last year) that maybe he could compete with the players they had in camp, or maybe he could attempt to fill the sproles role.
While I am not big on McNeal, I don’t think Todman or Brinkley bring much at all to the position. Not that it is a big deal as none of them will probably see the field during the regular season anyway.
Not as entertained with punt returns
if only because that job seems to be Cason’s, regardless of if he catches a single one in the preseason.
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by John Gennaro on Aug 11, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I seem to be suprised a lot
But I’m also surprised that Norv is going to put a starting CB on that job. Why not let Gilchrist/Crayton get mauled back there. I don’t discount Cason’s ability as a returner, just emphasize his importance to be a healthy CB.
by Orz on Aug 11, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Me too.
Cason is worth too much to let him get tackled.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 11, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Norv has said
That Cason won’t take every punt return. It depends on what’s been happening in the game. i.e. how tired Cason might be at that moment.
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Correct
3rd preseason game is where you see the most reps for starters. Although, prospective starters like Donald Butler will probably see more reps. Also, it usually seems like some offensive lineman stay out a little longer. Since defensive line is mostly a rotation, I think they can stay out longer sometimes.
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Anyone know
of a legal way to watch the Patriots/Jaguars game on my computer? Interested to watch Ochocinco and Gabbert…
The NFL does a stream on NFL.com now?
I thought their contract with DirectTV prevented that.
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Not that it would matter for that game
Since DirectTV’s contract only includes regular season games.
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