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Free Agent Frenzy: Quarterback

This offseason the Chargers have the unenviable task of replacing free agent Philip Rivers... just kidding. The Chargers are perfectly set at QB with their face of the franchise locked for the foreseeable future. Instead they are left with voids at the rest of the quarterback spots. Last year, they went through 3 non-Rivers QBs. Billy Volek was on his last year of his contract as the #2 QB in San Diego. The Bolts drafted a QB, Jonathan Crompton, with a later round pick, but decided roster space was too valuable to use a spot on a developmental QB that they would never trust to play in a 2010 NFL game. So, they cut him and used that roster spot for other purposes. Eventually, they decided to bring in an emergency plan veteran and signed journeyman and former NFL starter J.T. O'Sullivan to be the #3. It didn't really matter that much since Rivers had another healthy season, Volek only played in garbage time and O'Sullivan ended up getting cut when the Chargers needed a replacement kicker for Nate Kaeding.

In the NFL it's important to go into training camp with a good answer to the question: Who is your QB? Thankfully .the Chargers are one of the lucky team to have that question easily answered. Instead, they face themselves with 2 other questions. Both, are not nearly as fundamentally important, but still need good answers.

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1. Who is your backup QB?

The easiest answer to this question is Billy Volek. I haven't done an approval rating post for Billy, but I assume he'd rate high. If you watch him in preseason you know why he's not a starter in the NFL, but he's proven in the past that he can capably fill in for Rivers and he's started in the NFL (albeit now 7 years since he last did it regularly). He's now 35 and not worth signing for more than 1 or 2 years, but his familiarity with the offense is probably enough (especially in this shortened offseason) to compensate for any effects age would have on this decision.

It's been brought up that Volek could go to the Panthers to help ease the Panthers (and new head coach Ron Rivera who should be familiar with Volek) into the Cam Newton QB era. I think that's less likely in this lockout shortened offseason, but it's worth considering as a possibility. You have to think that if Volek sees an opportunity where he could start (even on a limited basis) he'd have to consider it. If that were to happen the Chargers would be forced to scour the FA QB list and find a suitable backup.

That FA QB list is a bit scary. Volek ranks really high on it. Others ranking pretty high like Bruce Gradkowski and Marc Bulger don't inspire a lot of confidence, although I suppose I'd take either one. A lot of them just don't seem like they'd fit the Chargers system, like the Tarvaris Jacksons and Troy Smiths. I guess I wouldn't freak out too badly if Drew Stanton, Jim Sorgi or J.P. Losman donned Chargers blue and gold, but it would make my nightmares that involve a Philip Rivers injury get even worse.

 

2. Do we carry a 3rd QB?

Obviously, the 2010 season did not turn out the way Chargers fans had hoped. Because of that it's probably best to carefully analyze any of the decisions from last year. One of the decisions was to go the majority of the season without a 3rd string QB. In theory, this should have given the Chargers an extra roster spot to help with special teams. In reality, the special teams still sucked. However, there doesn't seem to be any obvious reason why those facts are connected and the Chargers came nowhere close to being burned at the QB position because of that decision. So, overall you could say that there would be nothing wrong with doing it again.

However, the Chargers at some point will need a new #2 QB behind Rivers. And preferably that would be someone they could lock for a few years. That could either be an experienced QB that has to learn the Chargers system or someone the Chargers have groomed for the position. If the latter possibility is the way to go then it's best that Chargers get that grooming underway. At this point there are two options for doing that. Either bring in an undrafted free agent or sign a young(ish) free agent QB that wore out his welcome elsewhere. This ends up bringing up names like: Brodie Croyle, Kellen Clemens, John Parker Wilson, Tyler Thigpen, Trent Edwards, Matt Moore and Nate Davis from the NFL ranks. Then newbies like Pat Devlin (Deleware), Scott Tolzien (Wisconsin), Taylor Potts (Texas Tech), Ben Chappell (Indiana), Ryan Colburn (Fresno State) and Jerrod Johnson (Texas A&M) from the college ranks. I suppose I could get behind Clemens, maybe Moore, possibly Davis and then Devlin as the best UDFA.

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No love for Potts?

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by John Gennaro on Jul 18, 2011 7:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Just no more Volek

He’s tired and has zero long term upside.

But we are one bad snap away from needing a quality back up QB. And two back ups would not suck.

by Trendsearcher on Jul 18, 2011 8:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Why would he be tired?

Has he even played since winning the playoff game in Indy?

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by John Gennaro on Jul 18, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tired because he's

Going on his 11the season in the NFL. Was a UDFA. Arguably has never really been a starter in the NFL. And last season (preseason) was terrible. He’s had his shots, I’m tired of waiting, I’m sure he’s tired of waiting too. As an NFL quarterback Billy Volek is not much better than Jamarcus Russell.

If we are gonna put up with terrible, let’s at least get a guy who has a few years left in the tank. This way when he does get his S together maybe he can actually play.

by Trendsearcher on Jul 18, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Questions?

of both these career stats, who would you rather have on your team:
1. QB rate: 84.9
Comp pct: 60.1
Y/G: 101.5
TD to INT Ratio:1.8 to 1
or
2. QB rate: 73.2
Comp pct: 60.8
Y/G: 104.1
TD to INT Ratio:1 to 1.25

BOOM!

by whatsapip on Jul 18, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neither?

Both are a huge drop off compared to PR17. On this back up QB thing – I keep reflecting that without Rivers the Chargers are a sub-.500 team.

We need a back up QB that can at least get close to filling his shoes.

Who are the guys? Volek & Russell? The two sets seem pretty similar

by Trendsearcher on Jul 19, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good luck with that one. That's just too much to ask.

We need a backup QB who’s as good as we can get. There are 20+ teams with STARTERS that can’t get close to filling PR17’s shoes.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 19, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Billy Volek and Kevin Kolb

Kolb is the most talked about among QB as far as landing a spot.

BOOM!

by whatsapip on Jul 19, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

See and there is your youth upside

At least Kolb has a chance to be a late bloomer. Volek? That bloom is of the lilly.

He’ll as screwed up as he is… As bad as he is… as much negative pub as he’s had… I think Russell would be a better fit for teh Charger than Volek. Russell could change his stars, and in the mean time probably be an equal performer to Volek.

by Trendsearcher on Jul 20, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

And if it doesn't work out, maybe he can be TE

Or, given the crazy effects of climate change, he could be invaluable should we be deluged with a forty-day rain of skittles.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 20, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see Tyler Thigpen, Matt Moore, or a rookie.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 18, 2011 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Ugh

Thigpen only worked in that stupid Veer offense. No thank you.

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by John Gennaro on Jul 18, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

agree with john

i think most charger fans like thigpen cause he tore the chargers apart a couple years ago

by cameronm on Jul 18, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like w’re basically toast if we lose PR for more than a game or two, and it’s two early to start grooming a successor, so we should go 1 backup QB as cheaps as possible. I wonder how much having Naane on the roster gave them the courage to go without a 3rd QB.

by Orz on Jul 18, 2011 11:25 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Great point about Naanee.

The first sentence depends on Ryan Mathews and Greg Manusky a bit.

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by John Gennaro on Jul 18, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Do we care? If Rivers goes down, lets put in Brodie Croyle and move up the draft board like the Chiefs did.

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Jul 19, 2011 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Rivers goes down, we can pack in our expectations

But not our hopes!

Let’s get the best guy who can be had for a reasonable price!

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, reading Walter's list, I'd be okay with Alex Smith or Matt Hasselbeck.

The FAQB market is better than it looks.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 18, 2011 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Hit reply too fast.

There are a few backups (or even starters) who will be traded, like Orton, Young, and Kolb. There are a lot of teams who would love to upgrade, but won’t have time to bring in a new guy. The market for starters, to be sure, is: Tennessee, Arizona and maybe Washington and Carolina.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 18, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Minnesota. But that'll probably be Tarvaris Jackson.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 18, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you hit reply to fast again

I think Minnesota is sick of T Jackson. I think they’ll look for an upgrade

BOOM!

by whatsapip on Jul 18, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Upgrades over Jackson are going to be tricky.

Free Agents: Matt Hasselbeck used to be better, but he’s almost done. Otherwise, Jackson is the best FAQB that can reasonably be had (assuming normal franchise tag rules; otherwise, let the Peyton Manning sweepstakes begin).

Trade Bait: Kolb, Palmer, Orton, Young. Only Orton and Young are good enough that you can throw them into a new system and expect them to succeed. Each will command a second-day pick. Palmer is a wily veteran, and might be a value alternative. Kolb and Young are for more desperate teams that haven’t just picked young guys to be QBOTF.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 19, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of the SF Smiths will lose the musical chairs game

That guy might get another shot at starting somewhere. But I doubt it. I think such a player would be quite happy to become the new Volektric Billy.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 19, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot Cincy.

Those other teams have QBs that are at least about good enough. There’s no offseason, so there’s no time for a new QB to come in and build familiarity with his players and system. In the offseason it would be one thing, but now that we’re going into camp, I’d rather have the Chad Henne or Charlie Whitehurst I knew than the Vince Young or Kevin Kolb I didn’t know.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 19, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Cincy

If we can add them to the pool of suitors, we can add Carson Palmer to the pool of belles.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jul 19, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

It seems like Palmer's name and past success would command more dinero than he's worth as a backup

He is an ex-Pro Bowler, and he’s taken teams to the playoffs. Would I be very comfortable having him back up PR17? Yes, absolutely. Do I think that seems likely? Not really.

The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.

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by StrangeBroP25 on Jul 20, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take Matt Moore as the 3rd QB.

But chances are that someone else will pick him up for a #2 or starting spot. He has some starting experience, is still relatively young, and I think Turner could work some magic with him.

On another note, surprised there weren’t any Charlie Clipboard references. That’s a good case for another young #3 QB, Norv and Philip can mentor him for a few seasons, he can grow some nice long flowing locks to complement his beard, and he can become a clipboard holding machine! Then we can trade him for way more than he is worth…again.

by jkvandal on Jul 19, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

If he can grow a bread

he should be working to solve world hunger.

The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.

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by StrangeBroP25 on Jul 20, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

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