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San Diego Chargers Draft Busts - #4 Larry English

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Is it too early to call Larry English a bust? Well, yes and no.

It is in that he's played only two seasons, missing significant time due to injury, and still has a very good chance of becoming an outstanding pass-rusher in the NFL. It isn't in that he's entering Year 3 of a 5 year contract (that he'll most likely be an unrestricted free agent at the end of) and has so far been outplayed by the likes of Antwan Barnes, Antwan Applewhite and even Marques Harris.

The really sad thing about Larry English is that there haven't even been those flashes of brilliance that we'd occasionally see with guys like Buster Davis. Not to mention, after playing 4 years (and being a redshirt freshman) in college, Larry English is actually the same age as Buster. Due to his age, and the contract of a first-round player, the team needed him to become a big time performer some time before his third or fourth season and that hasn't happened.

Star-divide

Among the things I learned while researching Larry English for this post is that he recorded one of the highest Wonderlic scores for an Outside Linebacker ever recorded. He scored a 34, which through some crazy wizardry translates to an IQ of 128.....or 28 points above average. Some people start the scale of "genius" at 140, so you can imagine that we're dealing with a bright guy here.

Another thing I learned is that Larry English has asthma. He apparently has always had asthma, and helped to promote the Fight For Air Climb that happened in February in San Diego. Whether or not I'm comfortable with having our first-round draft pick be a pass rusher that needs an inhaler on the sidelines is debatable, but I will at least say I'm incredibly impressed that he's gotten to where he is while dealing with that.

Now, onto the facts. In each of his first two seasons, Larry English has started two games. In total, he has 5 sacks and 46 tackles to go along with 1 forced fumble. His rookie year was considerably better than his sophomore season, but two big reasons for that was that his injury issues worsened while the depth around him (Barnes, Applewhite) got better.

English is also facing the pressure of moving from 4-3 DE to 3-4 OLB, and having to learn how to play coverage in addition to rushing the passer without having his hand on the ground. This transition may have gone smoother had he been able to stay healthy, but who knows?

At this point, the Chargers have invested a good deal of money into Larry (a quick scan on his contract leaves me with an estimate of about $7 million) and have seen almost no return on their investment. The situation has gotten so dire that there is talk about using another first-round pick this year on a OLB to replace Larry, leaving the Chargers to have to pay for 3 starting OLBs once again.

We, as Chargers fans, have our fingers crossed that this post seems ridiculous in a year or two from now. However, at the moment it looks like the #16 selection from the 2009 NFL Draft (and one that the Patriots were upset the Chargers got) is on his way towards being a part of San Diego lore as an epic bust.


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I still have hope for English

But that hope is disappearing fast. If he doesn’t make an impact this next season, well then he might have to go…Maybe Manusky will use him in nickel sets or hybrid fronts as a down lineman…

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Next article: Scouting Greg Manusky, coming soon.

by Superduperboltman on Apr 12, 2011 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

too early

unless he was cut while on his rookie contract (like Waters was), there is no reason to declare a young player a bust before the end of their third year.

If we are in this exact same situation next year at this time, then I am with you, but it is too early now.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 12, 2011 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

The difference

First round picks get big money contracts with big signing bonuses. Waters didn’t get anywhere near a $15 million contract.

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

by John Gennaro on Apr 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just saying that the book is not closed on English like it was on Waters at this point.

I still think it is too early, but I don’t totally disagree with him being on this list, due to the fact he could very easily be #1 on this list as soon as next year.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 12, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

#2, but I'm otherwise with you.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Apr 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

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by John Gennaro on Apr 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bold call

Well stated. We should have a the Glass Jaw Championship fight.

English vs. CBD first man to bend back a fingernail (or worse) wins!

by Trendsearcher on Apr 12, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

shhhh

It’s bad enough that I have to include CBD on this list.

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

by John Gennaro on Apr 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

And what?

Make him #1 instead? Now that would be a twist worthy of M. Night Shyamalan.

by Cake or Death on Apr 12, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Change your mind on CBD?

It hasnt happened yet. He’s a pro bowler remember

Winning

by Foilhat on Apr 12, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Way too high high for a guy you're not sure is a bust

"This team is going to win regardless of if I get 15 points or if I get four points. That’s the kind of team we are," he said. "But this team won’t win if we don’t have defensive toughness on the inside. I just think that’s the biggest thing I can bring." – Andrew Bynum

by njg425 on Apr 12, 2011 10:52 AM PDT reply actions  

true

"This team is going to win regardless of if I get 15 points or if I get four points. That’s the kind of team we are," he said. "But this team won’t win if we don’t have defensive toughness on the inside. I just think that’s the biggest thing I can bring." – Andrew Bynum

by njg425 on Apr 12, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a bust.

but still has the opportunity to get rid of that label with play on the field.

Denorfia sucks.
Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser. -- Vince Lombardi

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

That's you Larry

time to man up! You just got called out… What are you going to do about it?

by Kuro Te San on Apr 12, 2011 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Probably

go on the IR with hurt feelings

by AngusMcfisticuf on Apr 12, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wasn't his pick essentially an eff you to Merriman?

Wasn’t conventional wisdom that they would compete, make each other better and we’d be twice as good, instead of twice as awful?

In that sense, I feel he is a bust. Yes.

by ElectricTerp on Apr 12, 2011 2:54 PM PDT reply actions  

When the Chargers drafter Larry,

I called “bust” about five seconds after I read up on how undersized he was and I’m sticking to it…

I’m not sure what was going through AJ’s head when he spent a first-rounder on this guy.

by Kame on Apr 12, 2011 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

He was a reach 1/2 at #16 and everybody knew it.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he never lived up to his draft status. But as long as he rocks the lightning bolts, I’ll be rooting for him to make a turn around.

by SoCalBoltFan on Apr 12, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUST

Horrible pick. I still cant understand WTF AJ was thinking with English. I am not a nfl scout, but to me the Oher pick just made way way too much sense. I thought it was guaranteed. Hopefully he doesnt catch CBDs disease. I mean if he’s not elite fine, not a probowler alright; but man Larry you have to actually play to make a difference

Winning

by Foilhat on Apr 12, 2011 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought AJ was supposed to be such a genius!! I could not believe that that we passed up Clay Mathews and Ray Malaluga in order to take Larry English. I knew AJ blew that pick. Buster(Bust) Davis another stroke of genius. Taking Rivers is his only grace, otherwise he has proved to be a bust himself!! Getting rid of Marty, another prime bonehead move. Spanos needs to clean house before its too late.

by Boltless in Seatle on Apr 13, 2011 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

We need to draft a good edge rusher. Combine that with our ever improving back end and we might yet win a championhip inspite of AJ. Norv needs to get his team ready to play from day one. We can’t keep stating the season sucking hind tit another year.

by Boltless in Seatle on Apr 13, 2011 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I would love to the bolts switch to their powder blue unys!! Maybe they would develop an attitude!

by Boltless in Seatle on Apr 13, 2011 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

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