The San Diego Media and Bill Cowher
by John Gennaro on Nov 29, 2011 3:02 PM PST
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PrintLet me start off by saying that I am a big fan of Bill Cowher. I think he was a very good motivator and disciplinarian. I also think a great deal of his success was due to things out his control, like the drafting of players, a winning atmosphere and play-calling. This is not an anti-Bill Cowher post. This is an anti-San Diego media post.
The San Diego media is borderline retarded. They want Bill Cowher, the most successful unemployed Head Coach under the age of a thousand, to be the coach of the San Diego Chargers so badly that they will believe any crazy person on the street corner that starts yelling about him going to San Diego. This is exactly what has happened in the past few days, with "rumors" about Cowher wanting to come to San Diego popping up everywhere.
Here's where I stand on Cowher.
- Will he listen to an offer? If he's interested in returning to coaching, it behooves him to listen to all offers and pick the one he feels is best. Just like it makes sense for him to at least feign interest for any and all open positions to potentially start a bidding war for his services.
- Will he make the Chargers a Super Bowl contender? Not necessarily. Cowher made the Super Bowl twice in his 15 years in Pittsburgh (winning once), and his team has returned twice in the 5 years since he retired (winning once). That leads to me thinking that their success had more to do with the players and the system (most notable, Dick LeBeau's defense) than Bill Cowher.
- Who would he bring with him? This is the biggest question the Chargers have to ask Cowher if he's sitting in Dean Spanos' office asking for $7 million per year. He doesn't call offensive or defensive plays, so the success of those sides of the ball will have more to do with the coaches that want to work with Cowher than Bill himself.
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BUT COWHER WILL WIN 5 SUPER BOWLS.
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scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 29, 2011 3:11 PM PST reply actions
You better bring out
the fancy dinnerware (not the spider-man ones) and pick your favorite hot sauce because that hat is gonna be in your stomach soon.
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Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 29, 2011 3:19 PM PST reply actions
Gonna use A-1
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by John Gennaro on Nov 29, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
My question is
How did you get Louis CK to put on your hat?
by wessw on Nov 29, 2011 3:20 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
What's this glasses business?
Where’s your monocle?
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Those are two monocles
Held together and over my ears by a contraption I made myself.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 29, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Fancy.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 29, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
i wasnt crazy about cowher
but now i want to see it just to watch you eat a hat
by cameronm on Nov 29, 2011 3:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
"happily" eat the hat, too
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by John Gennaro on Nov 29, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
If AJ is still here
If AJ isn’t fired there no chance for Cowher. Jon Gruden seem like the more likely canidate given they way he always kisses AJ’s *SS on MNF.
Neither of them are particularly desirable candidates anyway.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 29, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see Cowher coming to San Diego
At this point in his life, I’d be afraid he’s only coming here to get paid to hang out at the beach and to enjoy the weather. I’m also concerned that he’s been out of the league for 6 years. Given all of that, on a scale of 1 to Hoodie, I’d give Norv a 4.9 and “The Chin” an 8.5.
by SDreal on Nov 29, 2011 3:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Vince Lombardi
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by John Gennaro on Nov 29, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
The third Harbaugh son
…wait there isn’t a third son? Well then old man Jack Harbaugh better get to work and fast cuz the Chargers need a new Head Coach
Actually,
You would be safe making that guarantee for any team in the NFL.
And good for him. That ship has sailed. He knows, or should know
already he would never enjoy the same success he had in Pittsburgh.
All these retreads, nooo!!! Gruden? Please, it’ll be a current coordinator.
Superbowl Winning Coaches
No HC that has won the SB has won it again with a new team.
Only 5 HC’s have taken multiple teams to the SB: Don Shula, Dan Reeves, Dick Vermiel, Bill Parcells and Mike Holmgren. Only Shula lost with his first team (Baltimore Colts) and won with his 2nd team (Miami Dolphins). Dan Reeves didn’t win it with either team he coached. The other 3 won with thier first team and lost with their second team.
Odds are against Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden and Brian Billick winning another SB with a new team. It would be a historic first.
I say we need a fresh approach. We need an up an coming coordinator (Rob Chudzinski or Chuck Pagano) to inject new blood and life into this team.
a historic first?
The Chargers winning would be a historic first as well….
by counterpoint on Nov 29, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Mike Zimmer
Have been saying it forever, I think he will be a great HC
by cameronm on Nov 29, 2011 6:57 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
agreed
but he’ll definitely need to bring in a coordinator with him,so since you mentioned the head coach, can you mention his offensive coordinator?. I would say hell no to Bill Cowher
How about
the OC from the Saints? I forgot his name. He can be Mike Zimmer’s OC.
by AirCoryell74 on Nov 30, 2011 6:11 AM PST up reply actions
I think Payton calls the plays there man
I’m almost 100 percent …maybe not all this year cuz he was hurt and is recovering but I think he’s been more of an assistant to Payton rather than the OC. I could be wrong though.
by Gorditoe1 on Nov 30, 2011 8:39 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
He calls all of the plays
Even when he was/is hurt.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 30, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
I could go with that
obviously there will be a lot that plays out between now and the end of the season but I definitely think he should be on the list of candidates
no head coach has ever won a super bowl with two different teams
i want a guy more like mike tomlin or jim harbough
young and fiery, its just a matter of finding him wherever he may be
wheres waldo
fire norv
nire forv
I would much rather have AJ leave before forv.
AJ cant draft and absolutely refuses to bring in proven impact free agents
frustrating
i hate AJ
and his ego
Aire FJ
canadas marriage is like their money, or military, no one takes it seriously
So is that some kind of poetry? Or something?
"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
I think it's a Bukowski
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by Cake or Death on Nov 30, 2011 7:42 AM PST up reply actions
Please don't use the R word.
“The San Diego media is terribly mistaken.”
“The San Diego media is downright delusional.”
“The San Diego media is patently absurd.”
… or a dozen other ways you could have phrased that to make your point without propagating the use of the word in such a derogatory manner.
tl;dr Be more professional.
by cowbell on Nov 29, 2011 7:51 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
As somebody who works with the developmentally disabled
I have no problem with how he used the word. It is what it is, and pretending disabilities don’t exist only perpetuates stigma. Describing a (perceived) unintelligent decision as retarded is actually a fairly apt usage. Using “mentally retarded” would probably make more sense, but the point gets across as we all know he isn’t talking about fire.
"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
Jeez
Way to make me not feel bad moments after I felt terrible reading the previous comment.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 29, 2011 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
yes definitely aesimpleton
Comparing the San Diego media’s foolishness to my sister, who is unable to speak, will never live on her own, and who can barely feed herself is totally right on.
John, I know its veering from the article, but your writing is better than that, and I wish you would pick a different word.
Asimpleton, come on dude. You work with the intellectually impaired and you think a good way to describe idiots is to call them mentally retarded? Awesome.
Just a reminder to be careful with our words guys.
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by cubbuster on Nov 29, 2011 9:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I understand your point and everything
but language is ever-evolving. “Cretin” means someone with a thyroid disorder, so does that mean one should never use that word? “Idiot” also was used to mean a person of the lowest order in a former and discarded classification of mental retardation. Isn’t that offensive, too? Yep. Can’t use that word. How about “moron”? Well, in the same obsolete classification system, it meant “mildly retarded.” Guess that word’s gone.
Just sayin. Words is words.
by BORTZ on Nov 30, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My apologies
I write fast and don’t often re-read my posts (ask my editors). In retrospect, “downright delusional” is much more fitting.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 30, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
You're a disgrace.
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the ignition timing in my car is retarded
2 degrees baseline because I wanted more low end torque out of my premium grade gas. People in the auto industry say that word a lot….
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 30, 2011 5:58 AM PST up reply actions
Personally I'm on the Jeff Fisher bandwagon.
He’s a USC guy, a SoCal guy, I think he’d be a fit. Or if the Eagles fire Andy Reid, I wouldn’t hate that. I think there’ll be a number of coaches to choose from after the season. Lots of HC heads will roll…
Reid
Only issue I would have with Reid is the West Coast Offense. It doesn’t fit our personnel on offense and would take a season or 2 to get those pieces to be effective. With all the issues on D which need to be addressed, that could lead to a 4 or 5 year rebuilding process.
Fisher would be great!
I think fisher would do a great job! He had good success at Teneesee and we really need to do something. I have been a fan since 64 and now my 15 year old son has adopted the chargers, i would really like to see them win one in the next 20 years or so!
I also think Gregg Williams is worth an interview
I guess he qualifies as a “re-tread” because he failed in Buffalo a long time back, but since then he has had nothing but success as a coordinator and worked with Joe Gibbs and Sean Payton, hopefully picking up a thing or two.
I endorse this possibility
His stint in Buffalo was also when their talent was pretty lacking.
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by Buck Melanoma on Nov 30, 2011 2:09 AM PST up reply actions
If that's your excuse
then Mike Mularky deserves an interview as well.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 30, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
I agree
his defensive schemes would match our personnel as well.
by Ferguson1015 on Nov 30, 2011 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
His 4-3 defensive schemes would match our 3-4 personnel well?
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by John Gennaro on Nov 30, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
I believe his point was that he mixes and matches his fronts and schemes...
meaning he doesn’t really need a solid 4-3 or 3-4 front, since he switches around and plays different schemes based on who he is playing.
Ron Rivera
I would have loved it if Norv was let go after last years disappointing season and Rivera was promoted to head coach. oh well,
Think bigger. If Norv was bounced last year we could have had Harbaugh.
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I want to be in the stadium when things go bad and our picky Chargers fans start screaming “MARTY, MARTY!”
by livin'roomstreetfighter on Nov 30, 2011 3:41 AM PST reply actions
If I wanted a chin for a coach
I’d hire Jay Leno.
At least he MIGHT make me laugh through the misery.
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Robert Hunter
At least he MIGHT make me laugh through the misery.
Unlikely.
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by Cake or Death on Nov 30, 2011 7:43 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't worry. We can speculate all we want, but we won't seriously consider the actual candidate that AJ picks
Provided Norv does get fired that is. It’s like trying to predict who AJ will draft, the only near certainty is that whatever coach it is, his system matches our personnel. I guessing it will go one of two ways: Either a coach who has tried and failed before “Surprise! Our new coach is Mike Martz/Wade Phillips/(insert previously failed coach who you don’t really consider a possibility)” or it will be a coach I at least have never heard of “Surprise! Our new coach is (Insert random college coach/backup coordinator/coordinator on a bad team)”
Jonas Mouton for Head Coach
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by John Gennaro on Nov 30, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
So what happened to "The San Diego Chargers Will Lose To..."
Are they just redundant at this point?
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
Yes
Might come back on Friday though.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 30, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
This is why this is the best Chargers' blog!
I could not agree more. BC is not a good fit here. There are tons of young and upcoming HCs out there. Look at TB with Raheem Morris or the Harbaugh bros, all came with no previous HC experience in the NFL an they are doing well.
BTW, Del Rio was fired already, any chance we’ll see a new face before the year is over in SD?
Keep up the good work!
by Joan.Manuel.Martinez on Nov 30, 2011 10:08 AM PST reply actions
The Chargers tried the whole "hire a coach with no NFL experience"
Mike Riley anyone?
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I don't think anything will really change
As long as AJ Smith is still the acting GM for the franchise.
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by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 30, 2011 11:10 AM PST reply actions
New Coach
Everybody who really knows the chargers and how they function don’t need to guess who the next head coach will be. It’s a no-brainer Mike Ditka.
As long as we're going with retreads
I submit Al Groh
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