Top 5 Defensive Plays vs the Broncos
by Orz on Nov 29, 2011 9:00 AM PST
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PrintThe match-up of the Broncos offense against the Chargers defense turned up either big stops or big plays, with very little in the middle. As has been the Chargers custom this season, there were no turnovers and precious little quarterback pressure to make the highlight reels spin. As usual, SuperDuperBoltMan will be back later in the week with the nuts and bolts of the defense, I'm picking plays for their gravity within the flow of the game.
Defensive play #5 features Paul Oliver coming the closest the team got to a turnover this week with a great strip of Daniel Fells. At least two defenders had a chance to pounce on this one. I'll give Tommie Harris credit for getting so far downfield, but the big fella should have simply fallen on the ball instead of trying to pick it up on the run. You can see Eric Weddle making a strip attempt as well. Oh what could have been...
Defensive play #4 was the only exciting box score stat play of the game. Cam Thomas got what was technically a sack as he nailed a scrambling Tim Tebow two yards behind the line of scrimmage.
Defensive play #3 was a the end of the first Broncos overtime drive. Cam Thomas, Takeo Spikes, Eric Weddle, and Tommie Harris all combined to stop Tebow a few precious inches short of the 1st. You can't fault the defense in overtime, as they stopped the first two Denver drives cold.
Defensive play #2 is the end of the second Broncos overtime drive. Paul Oliver got beat, but made a review-enhanced tackle another few inches short of the first down.
Defensive play #1 could have very easily been another game winning slippery scramble for Tebow, but the two OLBs in the game (Shaun Philips and Antwaan Barnes) made sure the Broncos would have to settle for a game tying figgie. Without this stop, the Chargers don't even get a shot in overtime (although maybe they would have had a little more motivation for that last, lethargic two minute drill of regulation.
We also have this bonus defensive clip for the week. BFTB thinks that if he keeps working, Vincent Brown has a bright future at cornerback. Check out his ability to pace the wide receiver, make a break on the ball, and notch a pass defended stat. We can move Jammer to safety next week with VB86 on the roster.
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in Vincent Brown's defense,
Rivers thought he was 6 foot 5, as Floyd would have caught that.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Nov 29, 2011 9:53 AM PST reply actions
Hey SDBM,
what’s been your overall opinion of Manusky thus far, considering the personnel injuries and the lockout? What do you think of the playcall selection in context, as in late 4th quarter drive, behind or in front in score, etc.
Some people (Richard)
hate manusky. And although I think he could do better, you have to look at some facts. Injuries, short offseason, coaching change, and roster changes have made it incredibly difficult for Manusky to run the defense. But when I break the game down and get a look at the all 22 film and other angles, 75% of the time It’s poor execution or discipline. Playcalling is usually great. I usually try to mention one in my article but I’ll throw one in for you now. Decker’s touchdown catch. It was a simple cover 2 defense. Tebow’s pump faked the holy hoot out of Hughes and Weddle, and Oliver should have moved over top of Decker to cover him. 3 guys failed there. THREE. They were already in FG range, so you OBVIOUSLY need to defend the end zone, not 6 yard pass plays in the flat. I believe in Manusky and I wish a few people could see more than what they think is going on.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 29, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
I've also criticized Manusky
but thinking about what you’re saying, it’s pretty clear that my frustration stems from, as you said, the lack of execution on the personnel’s part rather than the coordinator’s play-calls. I’ve seen far too many missed tackles and blown coverages(Jammer against OAK and Cason…everytime).
Further, I understand why Manusky goes into a soft shell defense at times when I think he should be bringing blitzes simply to mix it up on defense and show the offense something else.
I haven’t looked at any game footage at all this year, so I haven’t been able to evaluate what kind of looks he’s dialing up, but a recurring theme seems to be that a 4-man rush seems to NEVER get any semblance of pass rush on the QB, regardless of how long he holds the ball. I’ve been thinking he should use more stunts, zone blitzes, generally create confusion on the O-line’s part, but that’s just me watching casually.
Anyways, thanks for the response.
To add to this
Manusky is probably wondering what the hell is going on. He constantly has Norv looking to him with the dumbass “what happened” expression. Not Gregs fault he has not one dude who is a go to stud that inspires fear in the other team. Also, this group of personnel has had trouble stopping the run for more then just a couple of games. Just saying. Greg inherited a bag o’crap. Imagine if Garay wouldn’t have become all world out of the blue. Imagine our run defense the past two years without that guy, we lucked out. Guys don’t even look like they are trying.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
The stunts are there, its that they can't do them right.
Castillo is literally the only guy it seems that can execute a stunt properly. But he’s been doing it with Phillips for the last 5 years so….. chemistry. Zone blitzes are hard when your ILB’s are too slow (Spikes) or not strong enough (Diggs) to beat Olinemen.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 29, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, one more thing
where do you think the lack of discipline and execution stem from? Is it simply a lack of talent in our defense’s personnel? Position coaching? Lack of motivation? Different scheme? Frustration?
Every video I have seen
shows Manusky ripping dudes asses out on the practice field and the sideline of games. The no. 1 defense
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
That's why I still have a bit of blame on Manusky and Norv
they need to teach these guys execution, and the postiion coaches the technique.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 29, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
i'll give you injuries, but I don't buy the short-offseason/coaching change
other teams are vastly improved in the same timeframe…like Manusky’s old team.
Maybe everything is screwed and we should literally drop a MOAB on the team.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Manusky's old team has
3 players that terrorize offensive lines and QB’s. Justin Smith, Patrick Willis, and Aldon Smith. Navarro Bowman is also really really good. Their pass rush is incredible and their run D almost as much. Manusky only has an aging/declining Shaun Phillips. And that’s it.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 29, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
then again
Manusky’s old team is better this year without him.
Manusky’s new team is worse this year with him.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Nov 29, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
This ^^^
The biggest flaw I see in Manusky is how well his old team doing in his absence. That’s a tough one for me to get over. One offseason, sure. But in that one offseason, his old team got significantly better and his new team got worse.
SF has better players than last year
in Carlos Rogers and Aldon Smith.
SD has lost Castillo and Phillips and Burnett. Not to mention Cason regressing, Jammer being uncharacteristically sucky, and Don’t get me started on Travis LaBoy.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 30, 2011 6:15 AM PST up reply actions
We could go round and round with this.
Me: Rogers SUCKED last year!
You: But he is protected by a better pass rush! THE SMITHS! MORISSEY!
I just don’t think Manusky is all that great.
In Washington
Rogers was good covering, but had stone hands. Not the case this year. And I like to go round and round…
And I think Manusky is good, not great.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 30, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
Also, the second posession of the 3rd quarter
was a 3 and out, and all 3 plays were highlight worthy.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 29, 2011 9:56 AM PST reply actions
~Breaking News on Norv Watch~
I’m your host, Falawful. Jack Del Rio, of 9 years head coach of Jacksonville ousted. Norv’s fate to follow suit? Will everyone be satisfied? Check back at the top of the hour. shuffle papers while looking into camera outro song
Jack del Rio has had just as many stupid time management mistakes
as Norv. That’s one of his biggest issues and reasons for being fired.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?
by Superduperboltman on Nov 29, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
I think there are many problems
here besides JUST coaching. I was listening to ESPN today and they really nailed it on the head. There is no go-to guy on the D. There is nobody that scares the opposing offense. I think if Manusky had a Dumervil or Berry, then you could really see something. However, he is probably gone with Norv anyways, which is sad. Has anyone noticed the correlation between the talent lost over the last few years through FA and the record suffering?
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
This just in
New Orleans OC looks great calling plays in win vs Giants. He could be next in line for Chargers HC.
///Wishful thought.
Their HC calls their offensive plays
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Nov 29, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Just a note on play #5
It’s correctly mentioned that Tommie Harris should have fallen on it, but just before that, Dante Hughes should have fallen on it instead of trying to scoop it (and instead have Jammer knock it out of his hands). I saw that Sunday and I was way more pissed at Hughes than at Harris.
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