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Open Thread: Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers, 2nd Half

If there's a team in the NFL that runs a worse two-minute offense than the San Diego Chargers, I'd be shocked. With a 10 point lead, two timeouts and the nail in their hand for the Broncos coffin, Philip Rivers was sacked and threw two incompletions (where it appeared his WRs didn't know they were being thrown to) before Norv Turner gave up and ran the ball.

The rest was predictable. A big return from Eddie Royal, a turnover opportunity that was wasted by the Chargers and a wide open Eric Decker for Tim Tebow to find in the end zone. Denver gets the ball to start the second half, so this could easily be a Chargers deficit soon.

Despite a strong running game, the Chargers offense still seems out of sync. They've played good defense only when the Broncos have abandoned the pass. San Diego is still playing a poor game and killing themselves with mental mistakes.

Expect another late-game TD by Tebow & Co. for another Broncos win. Expecting anything else would just be painful.

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After watching the whole first half of a game

for once, I think I’m finally ready to admit that there are problems with this team that go beyond the personnel in between the chalk lines.

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

But who do you blame?

Spanos? AJ? Norv? Other Assistant Coaches? Training Staff?

by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

BLAME EVERYONE

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I hate scooter pie

by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Serious Question

If we lose every game from here on out who loses their job, realistically?

by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing Norv regardless of what the losses look like

and then staff related to the faults that are blatant during said losses.

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll say Norv and AJ stays.

While AJ hasn’t been perfect in every decision he has made, there is enough talent on this team to be better than 4-6, and that comes down to the coaches. I’m not sure Manusky has been given a fair shake since he didn’t have a full offseason but if there is a new HC there will most likely be a new DC.

Norv’s strength is offense and that has been the biggest weak point this season with all of the turnovers and 3 and outs.

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well said

I blamed a lot of the lost offense on the loss of Gates and Sproles, but at some point the coaching staff has to evaluate the team that IS on the field and adjust playcalling options to give Rivers the best chance to succeed.

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

There is enough talent on the field to be better than 4-6

So I put the blame squarely on the coaching staff.

I’m not saying this roster is tops in the league by any means as far as talent goes, but I would say that they have more talent than the 4-6 record indicates. It’s the coaches job to get that talent to produce between the whistles.

It’s also AJ’s job to ensure that the depth is adequate, which it isn’t, but the majority of the complete lack of urgency and execution is on the coaching staff.

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I also am ready to admit that I dislike Manusky

and to a greater extent LaBoy and to a lesser extent Spikes. Here are the Broncos playcall options: McGahee Dive, McGahee Power O, McGahee Inside/outside zone, Tebow Option, Failed pass Attempt

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't like what Manusky has done this season but he hasn't had a fair shake either

he didn’t get any close to a full offseason to implement his system and the injuries have killed his ability to be effective with basic defenses. I’m not sure this season is an indicator of the best that Manusky can do but I’m not sure that saves his job either.

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, if Norv goes

it’s likely that most (if not all) of the rest will go as well.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That is correct

the only case where that might not happen is if Bissaccia gets promoted to HC

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

No Confidence in Replacing Coaches

This is my concern. So we replace the loss of Ron Rivera with Greg Manusky as the DC. Improvement? I don’t think so, at least not right now. What about the ST debacle. Last year they were world class horrible and they replace the ST coach. Has there been a big improvement? Not really, some, but they are still pretty aweful.

So, I don’t have much faith that whoever replaces Norv or the other coaches is going to do any better. Not sure what the solution is, but ready to just accept the fact that as long as Spanos is owner this team will not be champions.

by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

True, but what about other teams around the league?

No one else had an off-season either. So what about SF 49érs? Harbaugh didn’t seem to have any issues getting players to produce with very little off-season. I am sick of the excuses and the “no-off-season” smells alot like an excuse.

by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Not every coach is a Jim Harbaugh

and also Harbaugh really simplified his offense for the players that he had to take that into account…he adapted due to the short offseason.

You named one team that is doing well with a complete regime change in the offseason…I think if you look more around the league you will find that is not the norm, but that SF is a unique case.

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

12-7 over at Oakland

That’s not the score, that’s the Carpark Stabbing Report.

by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 27, 2011 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

the score is now 15-7 in points.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Serious question

Will the Chargers fire Norv during the season?

by Ken619 on Nov 27, 2011 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

I don't see it.

Especially if we can somehow magically win this game.

by Stan Darsh on Nov 27, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Please...

Just fire norval and aj already…this team plays like a big bag of suck z and the play calling is awful

"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."

...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs

i go ham

by notorioushbi on Nov 27, 2011 2:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Schilling with the hold

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

I'll pretend to be surprised

and I am, but only because it’s his first of the day.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Novak time

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

Up by 6. Not enough, guys...

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

Play to the whistle, Phillips.

That’s just one of this team’s many problems. He’s celebrating his tipped pass before the play is even over.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

Wow... wow.

Isn’t this the quarter where we’re supposed to be halfway decent?

by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

Hey, we scored once already

Makes that five straight games scoring on the 1st possession of the 2nd half. That’s some great coaching there, right?

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

We're developing our art form to a new level.

Sit back and watch this materpiece of suckage…

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Le sigh.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

And Garay and Jammer are down

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

Jammer AND Garay injured?

Open tryouts at the stadium tomorrow. No experience necessary.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

And a dnkey FG 13-10

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

Well.... crap.

The game is close going into the 4th. Cue crushing disappointment.

by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

Mathews!!!

"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."

...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs

i go ham

by notorioushbi on Nov 27, 2011 3:35 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Yep

I don’t care what anyone says, Mathews is gonna be a good player

by Kevron on Nov 27, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Mehh...

I like him, but I wish he would cut across the grain a bit more. I think he stopped doing that, because it caused some of his fumbles.

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

VJax just earned some money back on his next contract with that block

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah

I figure it would go out of bounds. Then again, it would probably hit inches from the chalk, kick back in, and be recovered by the donkeys.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Bears with a FG

within 8 with 11 minutes left.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

don't hold your breath

they sacrificed Davis’ soul for the division this season.
actually, now that I think about it, that was around the time the Chargers started REALLY sucking…

by abara on Nov 27, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Davis sold his soul long before 2011.

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

NO GOOD

BOHICA, everyone…

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

And yet again another reason we should have kept Laurent Robinson over Crayton

with hindsight being 20/20…

Although I was firmly in support of keeping Crayton over Robinson at the time the decision was made, I have now changed my mind.

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 3:39 PM PST reply actions  

Where the hell are our recievers?

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 3:39 PM PST reply actions  

I hate when the ball hits you right in the hands

"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."

...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs

i go ham

by notorioushbi on Nov 27, 2011 3:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Hard to make that tackle

when you’re being wrapped in a bear hug from behind.

Call the damn hold, ref.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough,

but there have been plenty of actual missed tackles in the course of the game

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Not meaning to disagree with you on that.

Just that particular one was a little more difficult than most.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

although they both had their hands on each other…oliver had position and Decker had his hand on Oliver too, good no call there

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

watching our guys struggle to reach Tebow

is like watching a bunch of grown men keeping little kids at bay with an outstretched hand on their foreheads

by abara on Nov 27, 2011 3:48 PM PST reply actions  

That thread is still there

You know, the one by which we are hanging on?

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

Nice catch!

Another $100 added to V-Jax’s next contract.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

Rivers is just off

He still is not nearly as accurate as usual

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

.....yep.

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Dunno

Could be one more possession away… but it is coming.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You've gotta be kidding me

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

Horrible challenge.

Norv is still an idiot.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:00 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

What the hell are you thinking, Norv?!

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 4:01 PM PST reply actions  

Helluva catch.

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:01 PM PST reply actions  

If Tebowning is inevitable and unavoidable

Maybe we should just lie back and try to enjoy it?

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

Pendejo!

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

we suck this year

thats just the fact. lets hope we can get a good pick

by cameronm on Nov 27, 2011 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

Do it Tebow

Kill Norv once and for all!

by sirbud on Nov 27, 2011 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

Bears finally gave up a TD

Playing without a QB proved to be too much for them.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

Leave it to the chargers...

To make tebow look like a real quarterback

"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."

...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs

i go ham

by notorioushbi on Nov 27, 2011 4:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

correction

“in the last 6 minutes of the 4th quarter”

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Finding ways to lose.....

13-13
Let’s see how Norv finds a way to lose this game.

by frenchcharger on Nov 27, 2011 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

total capitulation

they don’t even try anymore

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Into overtime we go

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

Overtime at home against the Broncos?

Such a bad team.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

terrible

Just terrible

by daily2b on Nov 27, 2011 4:15 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

What???

Triplette is an idiot.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

What the hell is he talking about no sudden death?

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

But he said that both teams get the ball, right?

We should hold him to that if the donkeys score on the first drive.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Triplette has no idea what he's doing.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

chargers are going to win

just to make sure everyone suffer next week

by john1 on Nov 27, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

there is no doubt at this point.

this Chargers team is in shambles.

how can you not go for the win there.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions  

Any guesses on total offensive yardage?

287 SD – 277 DEN…the san diego offense is only 10 yards better than the abysmal denver offense

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

Fans are chanting "Chargers suck!"

You hear that, AJ Smith? This is on YOU.

"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103

http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012

by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

If AJ doesnt take

responsibility for this teams downfall, there’s going to be one hell of a backlash.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Plenty of blame to go around.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

am...am I seeing this wrong?

Or are the bears in position to take the lead?

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

You are.

They didn’t get the onside kick. 2 minutes, 1 timeout left.

by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah okay, thanks.

I was just looking at it on the Yahoo Football sports page…it was failing my common sense check

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

Raiders recovered the onside kick

by Kevron on Nov 27, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Bears just scored

but didn’t get the onside kick.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Can go to bed now

Well it’s almost 1:30 AM for me and I work tomorrow so at least I can go to sleep now.

by frenchcharger on Nov 27, 2011 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

You know they are going to find some way to blow it each week

But in your heart you keep thinking that the “old” Chargers will reappear

by Back2SD2006 on Nov 27, 2011 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

why not punt?

We won’t do shit with the ball.

by daily2b on Nov 27, 2011 4:22 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Crayton...

why you no run out of the way?

by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

A tie isn't really useful for us here.

So let’s just ram this thing about 65 yards and kick the winner.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:23 PM PST reply actions  

anybody think we should draft a QB this draft just as insurance?

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:27 PM PST reply actions  

nope

i fully believe in rivers. just an off year

by cameronm on Nov 27, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we should,

at least for insurance. He looks like Bernie Kosar out there.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

i have to laugh

To keep from crying

canadas marriage is like their money, or military, no one takes it seriously

by bot on Nov 27, 2011 4:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Maybe in OT

the Tebow has to reset, so it’s like the 1st quarter again.

(That pass looked like a 1st-quarter pass.)

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

The elbow was down short.

Should be 4th down.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:31 PM PST reply actions  

And it is 4th down.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

RM24 with another big one!

Denver’s pass rush looks bad against the run.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

Really.

Now it’s gotta be from 53.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

Not close enough yet.

Really not close enough.

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

That's why you don't do that stupid timeout thingy.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:42 PM PST reply actions  

that is what he gets for calling TO

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 4:42 PM PST reply actions  

ha...it worked

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

Haha

I’m sick of it.

by BORTZ on Nov 27, 2011 4:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Nice shot Gregory

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

In Denver.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

is a tie game

worse than losing?

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

we lose ground.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

No

but not by much.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

It might buy Norv more time

by Kevron on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

this

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a Lions fan first

but i lived part of my life in CA, so i do like to follow the Chargers, and i gotta say, Norv’s gotta go. I feel bad that you guys have to suffer with his terrible decision making.

I like to Dangle Dangle.

by playboyperry509 on Nov 27, 2011 4:46 PM PST reply actions  

its time to call this season a wash, and try to figure out what we have done wrong as fans to deserve this.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

BOOOOOOOO.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

And that'll do it.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

And that's your ballgame, folks.

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

wait for it... wait for it...

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:49 PM PST reply actions  

6 losses in a ROW!!!!

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Woe is me.

I gotta find a new hobby.

by BORTZ on Nov 27, 2011 4:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Poor Coyell...

He’s got to be rolling over in his grave

by Atlboltfan on Nov 27, 2011 4:49 PM PST reply actions  

Awesome.

Just awesome.

Feeling rather Tebowned.

by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:50 PM PST reply actions  

Fire Norv now and try to salvage the season

by Sean Coleman on Nov 27, 2011 4:50 PM PST reply actions  

Cheer up everyone

Only a month til we get the NBA back

by Kevron on Nov 27, 2011 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

Boo!

Go Heat…(And yes, I liked the Heat before LeBron…I liked the Heat ever since Wade was drafted so there!)

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

each loss is another shovel of dirt

thrown onto Norv’s coffin

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

Eh whatever helps get Norv the f--k out of here.

Tebow is a terrible quarterback. I mean he is God awful. They’re only winning games because their defense keeps the score close enough.

Surprised Jets didn’t destroy them and surprised the chargers didn’t either……..

Such is life.

by dulciusXasperis on Nov 27, 2011 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

This is pretty much accurate.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree Tebow is a poor QB...

But he drove the team down to score. That’s on your defense.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont think is going to last much longer.

and I hope AJ is gone at the end of this year.

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by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:52 PM PST reply actions  

Norv will be gone.

AJ probably won’t be.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The fact that he's built a team in the past

means he’s going to be given a chance to build one again.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be wrong. AJ HIRED Norv...

If one goes, so should the other. Its called being held accountable for your decisions.

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Aha!

Yes, you’ve got something there! Your only a charger one year at a time, AJ. you have to earn it. And, AJ, I dont think you’ve earned it for some time.

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by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

"I dont think Norv is going to last much longer.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

im going to cry.

Can i haz a real coach now?

canadas marriage is like their money, or military, no one takes it seriously

by bot on Nov 27, 2011 4:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't even think Norv will be gone

AJ will blame it on the injuries
and give Norv a break

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

You underestimate how much the front office has soured on this coaching staff.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The owners do not love Norv.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

well, give us the inside scoop then!

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by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Have none.

Just going on what I hear and read in the media.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard an interview with Dean

after last year
He loves AJ and Norv
after having so many losing seasons in the past
They aren’t going anywhere…

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think

they will blame the bad season on injuries
and give Norv another shot

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

that is contrary to everything I have heard

and they gave Norv a 4 year extension after getting beaten by the Jets
in the playoffs

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

man, I feel like I'm in bizarro world...

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by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

AJ'S EGO KNOWS ALL AND SEES ALL.

A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice!

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not kidding,

I really think we should draft a QB this draft.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

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by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

and light a fire under Rivers ass.

something is off with him, he needs some sort of spark. half the time he looks lost out there.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

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by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't it obvious

On the clipboard is a map.

I hate scooter pie

by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

don't ants get in for free?

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Bastards.

I hear they get onfield seats

I hate scooter pie

by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

knowing the Chargers

they have found some way to milk $$ out of ants

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would they care.

They’re probably going to spend the off season having meetings with AEG about moving. The problems with the Chargers can all be traced back to the Spanos family. AJ, Norv, the anemic O-Line are all just symptoms of the Spanos disease.

by athletics68 on Nov 27, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

This is sad.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 27, 2011 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

does this mean we can finally say goodbye to norv....please?

Here’s the thing. We all knew Marty had to leave. But the reason fans freaked out about him leaving for years was because of who he was replaced with. Its like being told " hey son we decided to finally upgrade you from that Yugo we bought you….. So here’s your new moped" of course we were pissed and wanted our old coach back. Anyway, I digress…. I hope this means that this sill expirement is done. Everyone but AJ and a few “front pagers” on this blog knew Norv was a bad choice for coach… And while talent carried him a ways, AJ’s Midas touch was quickly fleeting and left us with losses like today and a 6 loss streak. Its been….fun….no….not fun…its been….horrible. horrible watching stars age while AJ strokes his ego and Norv strokes his leathery drooping neck. I’m over it….lets make some changes from the top!

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by cubbuster on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

True.

Look at it this way, if we kept Mike Turner we would have never had to trade up for a dude who is unproven and shows “flashes” of quality between injuries. Another screw up by AJ.

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by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

you are seriously going to hate on Mathews after that game

he was the only player that seemed to still be playing his ass off out there…he was the only player that played well today.

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a mad man crush on Matthews

but can he put this team on his shoulders consistently? The team takes turns having a dude show up and the rest of them sucking enough to get the L. Its just frustrating.

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by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Most RB's have injury issues their first few years in the NFL

it is hard to replicate the wear and tear that NFL defenses and 16 games (or more) have on you when playing in college…he didn’t seem to get injured after 137 yards tonight. There are a lot of people to give up on with this team, but Ryan Mathews is not one of them.

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

In truth, I concede you are right

but my emotions make me want to believe there is a conspiracy, haha. Truth be told, I don’t think alot of the players have given up. V. Brown is a player. Matthews, Tolbert, C.Thomas, Hughes, Weddle. I just feel like some bad choices at key positions and an overall malaise seems to have constantly held the team down. When is the last time any player on this team has played at a probowl level?

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by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Weddle is playing at a Pro Bowl level

but I think I’m in the minority there…Donald Butler is also playing really well

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dont agree with this

If anything the one positive I took from this game was Ryan Matthews. I personally thought he was the only one who showed up. With a beaten up, aweful OL he still managed around 140 yards and showed me that he has the potential to be great.

by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

He is great, but he is also injury prone.

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by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, at least we got basketball coming up soon

We might get a nice draft pick next year too, but as long as AJ’s still here it probably won’t be a very smart one.

by Vekou on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM PST reply actions  

I don't care what they say...

I just don’t want injuries to be their excuse…

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by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

I have nothing to say

4-7

Even pessimist fans couldn’t predict something like this

by Scard on Nov 27, 2011 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

I'll rec that one

I have always been an advocate of Norv, but this team has just given up on him, time to move on.

by jkvandal on Nov 27, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No

No

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, this earns my rec.

Yeah, I came to this same conclusion when his one positive, his offense, sputtered and failed this game. If you’re a rational fan, I think it’s time to realize that this coaching staff has got to go.

by Falawful on Nov 27, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

How much of it do you think is personnel

as opposed to coaching? Has the coach changed in the past 5 years or the personnel? Just saying. Maybe our drafts and the folks we have let go has limited Norv to this point. Not defending him, but it is easy to blame the mouthpiece/puppet. Why haven’t we heard any quotes from AJ this past month?

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by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope for 2012

Honestly, I am kind of excited about all of this (the collapse of the Chargers, that is). I have been a fan for almost 20 years and am growing tired of losing year after year because of poor coaching and bad drafting. I am actually hoping to see the Chargers go 4-12 just so that they will clean house.

To me it is much like Congress, we need everyone out and a whole bunch of fresh faces. I don’t mind re-building if the final product is a winning team and a different attitude toward football.

by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 5:03 PM PST reply actions  

Bravo

My sentiments exactly. Mediocrity breeds mediocrity.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly, this is what we all predicted when Norv was hired as head coach. The slow unraveling of a once talent laden team. I be AJ feels like a total schmuck. Looks like you dont have to know very much to be a GM if you got guys like AJ calling the shots.

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."

"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan

by podpeople on Nov 27, 2011 5:09 PM PST reply actions  

I want to believe

AJ feels like a D-bag, but we all know he will justify it somehow.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

that is what he is always like

negative energy
sucks the life out of the room…and the team

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

postgame post is up

these comments are closing

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

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