Open Thread: Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers, 2nd Half
If there's a team in the NFL that runs a worse two-minute offense than the San Diego Chargers, I'd be shocked. With a 10 point lead, two timeouts and the nail in their hand for the Broncos coffin, Philip Rivers was sacked and threw two incompletions (where it appeared his WRs didn't know they were being thrown to) before Norv Turner gave up and ran the ball.
The rest was predictable. A big return from Eddie Royal, a turnover opportunity that was wasted by the Chargers and a wide open Eric Decker for Tim Tebow to find in the end zone. Denver gets the ball to start the second half, so this could easily be a Chargers deficit soon.
Despite a strong running game, the Chargers offense still seems out of sync. They've played good defense only when the Broncos have abandoned the pass. San Diego is still playing a poor game and killing themselves with mental mistakes.
Expect another late-game TD by Tebow & Co. for another Broncos win. Expecting anything else would just be painful.
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After watching the whole first half of a game
for once, I think I’m finally ready to admit that there are problems with this team that go beyond the personnel in between the chalk lines.
But who do you blame?
Spanos? AJ? Norv? Other Assistant Coaches? Training Staff?
by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
BLAME EVERYONE
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Serious Question
If we lose every game from here on out who loses their job, realistically?
by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
I'm guessing Norv regardless of what the losses look like
and then staff related to the faults that are blatant during said losses.
I'll say Norv and AJ stays.
While AJ hasn’t been perfect in every decision he has made, there is enough talent on this team to be better than 4-6, and that comes down to the coaches. I’m not sure Manusky has been given a fair shake since he didn’t have a full offseason but if there is a new HC there will most likely be a new DC.
Norv’s strength is offense and that has been the biggest weak point this season with all of the turnovers and 3 and outs.
There is enough talent on the field to be better than 4-6
So I put the blame squarely on the coaching staff.
I’m not saying this roster is tops in the league by any means as far as talent goes, but I would say that they have more talent than the 4-6 record indicates. It’s the coaches job to get that talent to produce between the whistles.
It’s also AJ’s job to ensure that the depth is adequate, which it isn’t, but the majority of the complete lack of urgency and execution is on the coaching staff.
I also am ready to admit that I dislike Manusky
and to a greater extent LaBoy and to a lesser extent Spikes. Here are the Broncos playcall options: McGahee Dive, McGahee Power O, McGahee Inside/outside zone, Tebow Option, Failed pass Attempt
I don't like what Manusky has done this season but he hasn't had a fair shake either
he didn’t get any close to a full offseason to implement his system and the injuries have killed his ability to be effective with basic defenses. I’m not sure this season is an indicator of the best that Manusky can do but I’m not sure that saves his job either.
No Confidence in Replacing Coaches
This is my concern. So we replace the loss of Ron Rivera with Greg Manusky as the DC. Improvement? I don’t think so, at least not right now. What about the ST debacle. Last year they were world class horrible and they replace the ST coach. Has there been a big improvement? Not really, some, but they are still pretty aweful.
So, I don’t have much faith that whoever replaces Norv or the other coaches is going to do any better. Not sure what the solution is, but ready to just accept the fact that as long as Spanos is owner this team will not be champions.
by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Hard to effectively replace coaches and grade them when they don't have an offseason to teach the players anything
True, but what about other teams around the league?
No one else had an off-season either. So what about SF 49érs? Harbaugh didn’t seem to have any issues getting players to produce with very little off-season. I am sick of the excuses and the “no-off-season” smells alot like an excuse.
by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Not every coach is a Jim Harbaugh
and also Harbaugh really simplified his offense for the players that he had to take that into account…he adapted due to the short offseason.
You named one team that is doing well with a complete regime change in the offseason…I think if you look more around the league you will find that is not the norm, but that SF is a unique case.
Hmmm
and for those of you just interested in the inner-workings of football, this is a really good site: http://smartfootball.com/
Yup that was the article I read too that shows how he adapted his system to his players
and I just started following that site in the last couple weeks and it is great
12-7 over at Oakland
That’s not the score, that’s the Carpark Stabbing Report.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 27, 2011 2:51 PM PST reply actions
Please...
Just fire norval and aj already…this team plays like a big bag of suck z and the play calling is awful
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
i go ham
by notorioushbi on Nov 27, 2011 2:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Dammed donkeys going three n out and giving us hope...
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
Not sure which team is playing down to the level of their competition here.
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
I wish you guys didn't have the same picture :(
Either that or change the first letter of your name to something other than J. I don’t know why, it just offends me.
Not certain if that was a fantastic defense sequence or just a really bad offensive performance
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
that's a given
up 6 pts on the worst offense I have ever seen
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
Play to the whistle, Phillips.
That’s just one of this team’s many problems. He’s celebrating his tipped pass before the play is even over.
Wow... wow.
Isn’t this the quarter where we’re supposed to be halfway decent?
Hey, we scored once already
Makes that five straight games scoring on the 1st possession of the 2nd half. That’s some great coaching there, right?
Wow, with such great coaching, we must have gone 4-0 in that stretch.
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
We're developing our art form to a new level.
Sit back and watch this materpiece of suckage…
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Darned near picked and another punt coming up
what a crappy game…
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
But, not there.
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Le sigh.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 3:24 PM PST reply actions
After seeing zilch fromn the pass rush this season, you still only doubt sometimes?
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think they would rather give Tebow 10 seconds to pass the ball
that risk letting him run the ball…actually not so bad
Well.... crap.
The game is close going into the 4th. Cue crushing disappointment.
Up by 3 going into the 4th -- only question left to be answered is
“How do we blow this one?”
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
Rivers takes an intentional saftey while the game is tied at 13?
by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
Now THAT would be a highlight!
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
more like, Chargers get a safety
and Tebow leads a game-winning drive culminating with a FG kicked by Tim Tebow
That would be AWESOME.
I would appreciate good theater like that.
by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Another field goal after a V-Jax drop in the end zone
and a 95-yard Tebow run off the option for a winning TD?
Mathews!!!
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
i go ham
by notorioushbi on Nov 27, 2011 3:35 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Was anyone else screaming "hold onto the ball" during that RM 24 40 yard run?
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
don't hold your breath
they sacrificed Davis’ soul for the division this season.
actually, now that I think about it, that was around the time the Chargers started REALLY sucking…
Davis sold his soul long before 2011.
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
And yet again another reason we should have kept Laurent Robinson over Crayton
with hindsight being 20/20…
Although I was firmly in support of keeping Crayton over Robinson at the time the decision was made, I have now changed my mind.
Where the hell are our recievers?
"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103
http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012
by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 3:39 PM PST reply actions
I hate when the ball hits you right in the hands
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
i go ham
by notorioushbi on Nov 27, 2011 3:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Hard to make that tackle
when you’re being wrapped in a bear hug from behind.
Call the damn hold, ref.
Not meaning to disagree with you on that.
Just that particular one was a little more difficult than most.
Only 3 penalites today.
So far. Knock on wood guys.
watching our guys struggle to reach Tebow
is like watching a bunch of grown men keeping little kids at bay with an outstretched hand on their foreheads
Not many teams have two tackles that can each hold off an elite pass rusher on their own without help
and Von Miller is elite…and Dumerville ain’t half bad either.
Even more obvious with a couple of guys on the practice squad or in street clothes two weeks ago playing next to him
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
.....yep.
"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103
http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012
by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
You've gotta be kidding me
"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103
http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012
by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 3:59 PM PST reply actions
Horrible challenge.
Norv is still an idiot.
by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
What the hell are you thinking, Norv?!
"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103
http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012
by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 4:01 PM PST reply actions
Pendejo!
"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103
http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012
by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 4:03 PM PST reply actions
i say sacked
and time runs out because we are out of timeouts
Leave it to the chargers...
To make tebow look like a real quarterback
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
i go ham
by notorioushbi on Nov 27, 2011 4:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Yup I do remember that
I remember it vividly and after we went 3 and out I stated that would come back to bite us
Which one, the 2009 two minute drill or the 2011 version?
please not the 2011 version, that one sucks
Everyone break out your clown noses and groucho marx glasses/mustache mask!
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like we get an OT suckage this week.
Fantastic theater.
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
Probably because we'll run out of clock trying to kick a winning FG
because of that inane challenge.
Not sure if inane is as descriptive as "desperate" or "pathetic".
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Into overtime we go
"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103
http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012
by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 4:15 PM PST reply actions
Overtime at home against the Broncos?
Such a bad team.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:15 PM PST reply actions
What the hell is he talking about no sudden death?
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions
But he said that both teams get the ball, right?
We should hold him to that if the donkeys score on the first drive.
Triplette has no idea what he's doing.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:16 PM PST reply actions
chargers are going to win
just to make sure everyone suffer next week
there is no doubt at this point.
this Chargers team is in shambles.
how can you not go for the win there.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
Any guesses on total offensive yardage?
287 SD – 277 DEN…the san diego offense is only 10 yards better than the abysmal denver offense
Fans are chanting "Chargers suck!"
You hear that, AJ Smith? This is on YOU.
"follow @radio2012, trust me, you will find his optimism, innocence, and honesty quite refreshing. as a jaded bastard, i sure do." justdave2103
http://twitter.com/#!/radio2012
by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 27, 2011 4:17 PM PST reply actions
If AJ doesnt take
responsibility for this teams downfall, there’s going to be one hell of a backlash.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
Plenty of blame to go around.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
You are.
They didn’t get the onside kick. 2 minutes, 1 timeout left.
by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Ah okay, thanks.
I was just looking at it on the Yahoo Football sports page…it was failing my common sense check
Can go to bed now
Well it’s almost 1:30 AM for me and I work tomorrow so at least I can go to sleep now.
You know they are going to find some way to blow it each week
But in your heart you keep thinking that the “old” Chargers will reappear
why not punt?
We won’t do shit with the ball.
by daily2b on Nov 27, 2011 4:22 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Crayton...
why you no run out of the way?
RM putting in work at least
Over 100 yards.
The good punt sealed it.
They HAD a shot.
by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
A tie isn't really useful for us here.
So let’s just ram this thing about 65 yards and kick the winner.
Wow.... Delay of Game.
PR is finding new ways to blow it.
just take the snap and run out the back of the endzone
by daily2b on Nov 27, 2011 4:26 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
anybody think we should draft a QB this draft just as insurance?
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
I think we should,
at least for insurance. He looks like Bernie Kosar out there.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
I think we should keep Rivers around until the end of his contract...
…and then prepare to draft Stephen Rivers!!
i have to laugh
To keep from crying
canadas marriage is like their money, or military, no one takes it seriously
by bot on Nov 27, 2011 4:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
If only he kept it for one more second...
He finally got around him.
Maybe in OT
the Tebow has to reset, so it’s like the 1st quarter again.
(That pass looked like a 1st-quarter pass.)
Waste of time.
They NEVER change spots. NEVER.
by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
They NEVER change spots.
Unless they do. >_>
by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
I thought so too...
but the call on field was first down.
by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
The elbow was down short.
Should be 4th down.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:31 PM PST reply actions
And it is 4th down.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:32 PM PST reply actions
My pessimism has paid off.
I HATE the Chargers.
Just take the five yards.
Better than him throwing the customary pick 6.
by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Oh crap...
You just cursed it. Congrats, sir.
by Aaron Vazquez on Nov 27, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
You have to embrace the suck if you are going to be a REAL Bolts fan, buddy!
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
That's why you don't do that stupid timeout thingy.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:42 PM PST reply actions
Oh man.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:43 PM PST reply actions
Every cent earned from this debacle needs to be given to charity.
And the result burned from the record books.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 27, 2011 4:43 PM PST reply actions
Thanks for going conservative once we got to the 30, Norv.
by justincup on Nov 27, 2011 4:43 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
how long till pitchers and catchers report?
by daily2b on Nov 27, 2011 4:45 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
In Denver.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
we lose ground.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
No
but not by much.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a Lions fan first
but i lived part of my life in CA, so i do like to follow the Chargers, and i gotta say, Norv’s gotta go. I feel bad that you guys have to suffer with his terrible decision making.
I like to Dangle Dangle.
by playboyperry509 on Nov 27, 2011 4:46 PM PST reply actions
Every one grab your pitchfork and meet me at the old mill.
There’s gonna be a fryin tonight.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM PST reply actions
its time to call this season a wash, and try to figure out what we have done wrong as fans to deserve this.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
BOOOOOOOO.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
And that'll do it.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:47 PM PST reply actions
Play clock was about to run out
And Norv calls TO
wait for it... wait for it...
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
6 losses in a ROW!!!!
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
Poor Coyell...
He’s got to be rolling over in his grave
Yeah, almost. Someone keeps moving the i and u around on my keyboard.
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
Wait until we make Gabbard look like an All Pro on National TV!
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
each loss is another shovel of dirt
thrown onto Norv’s coffin
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
Eh whatever helps get Norv the f--k out of here.
Tebow is a terrible quarterback. I mean he is God awful. They’re only winning games because their defense keeps the score close enough.
Surprised Jets didn’t destroy them and surprised the chargers didn’t either……..
Such is life.
by dulciusXasperis on Nov 27, 2011 4:51 PM PST reply actions
This is pretty much accurate.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
I agree Tebow is a poor QB...
But he drove the team down to score. That’s on your defense.
"Noooo!!!" - Referee, Oilers @ Avs, 26.11.2011
The 2011-2012 Colorado Avalanche: there will be blood and there will be wins.
"God I'm excited for those two to fail miserably." - SBNation writer Andrew Sharp on Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow.
The Number Zero, for everything but mathematics. Blood and Thunder Record: 9-10-1 (Total Record: 10-14-1)
by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
I dont think is going to last much longer.
and I hope AJ is gone at the end of this year.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
Norv will be gone.
AJ probably won’t be.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
The fact that he's built a team in the past
means he’s going to be given a chance to build one again.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
That would be wrong. AJ HIRED Norv...
If one goes, so should the other. Its called being held accountable for your decisions.
North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.
by SDNativeinTX on Nov 27, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
Aha!
Yes, you’ve got something there! Your only a charger one year at a time, AJ. you have to earn it. And, AJ, I dont think you’ve earned it for some time.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
"I dont think Norv is going to last much longer.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
im going to cry.
Can i haz a real coach now?
canadas marriage is like their money, or military, no one takes it seriously
by bot on Nov 27, 2011 4:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don't even think Norv will be gone
AJ will blame it on the injuries
and give Norv a break
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
You underestimate how much the front office has soured on this coaching staff.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
You underestimate how much the owners love Norv and AJ
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
The owners do not love Norv.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
well, give us the inside scoop then!
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
Have none.
Just going on what I hear and read in the media.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
I heard an interview with Dean
after last year
He loves AJ and Norv
after having so many losing seasons in the past
They aren’t going anywhere…
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
I still think
they will blame the bad season on injuries
and give Norv another shot
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
that is contrary to everything I have heard
and they gave Norv a 4 year extension after getting beaten by the Jets
in the playoffs
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
man, I feel like I'm in bizarro world...

"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
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AJ'S EGO KNOWS ALL AND SEES ALL.
A pirate I was meant to be!
"You say you're nasty pirates,
scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Looks like we are getting an upgrade at QB
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not kidding,
I really think we should draft a QB this draft.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
So he can hold the clipboard?
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
and light a fire under Rivers ass.
something is off with him, he needs some sort of spark. half the time he looks lost out there.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
Isn't it obvious
On the clipboard is a map.
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
Bastards.
I hear they get onfield seats
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
knowing the Chargers
they have found some way to milk $$ out of ants
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
Do ants have nipples?
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Why would they care.
They’re probably going to spend the off season having meetings with AEG about moving. The problems with the Chargers can all be traced back to the Spanos family. AJ, Norv, the anemic O-Line are all just symptoms of the Spanos disease.
Nothing can be done about the owners
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure who that is, but I like it. :)
by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
SAPNOS is the evil alien lizard monster who curses our games.
Cake Or Death has rare photographic evidence.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 27, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions

On the other hand, you have different fingers.
by Hormel on Nov 27, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Where is our meme guy
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Then you have your answer to how much they'll care about selling tickets
They won’t. They’ll probably keep AJ and Norv, or worse put Spanos kid in as GM.
How do we know that's worse?
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
This is sad.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 27, 2011 4:57 PM PST reply actions
Here's a tissue
sniff sniff
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 27, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
does this mean we can finally say goodbye to norv....please?
Here’s the thing. We all knew Marty had to leave. But the reason fans freaked out about him leaving for years was because of who he was replaced with. Its like being told " hey son we decided to finally upgrade you from that Yugo we bought you….. So here’s your new moped" of course we were pissed and wanted our old coach back. Anyway, I digress…. I hope this means that this sill expirement is done. Everyone but AJ and a few “front pagers” on this blog knew Norv was a bad choice for coach… And while talent carried him a ways, AJ’s Midas touch was quickly fleeting and left us with losses like today and a 6 loss streak. Its been….fun….no….not fun…its been….horrible. horrible watching stars age while AJ strokes his ego and Norv strokes his leathery drooping neck. I’m over it….lets make some changes from the top!
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by cubbuster on Nov 27, 2011 5:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions
True.
Look at it this way, if we kept Mike Turner we would have never had to trade up for a dude who is unproven and shows “flashes” of quality between injuries. Another screw up by AJ.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
you are seriously going to hate on Mathews after that game
he was the only player that seemed to still be playing his ass off out there…he was the only player that played well today.
I have a mad man crush on Matthews
but can he put this team on his shoulders consistently? The team takes turns having a dude show up and the rest of them sucking enough to get the L. Its just frustrating.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Most RB's have injury issues their first few years in the NFL
it is hard to replicate the wear and tear that NFL defenses and 16 games (or more) have on you when playing in college…he didn’t seem to get injured after 137 yards tonight. There are a lot of people to give up on with this team, but Ryan Mathews is not one of them.
In truth, I concede you are right
but my emotions make me want to believe there is a conspiracy, haha. Truth be told, I don’t think alot of the players have given up. V. Brown is a player. Matthews, Tolbert, C.Thomas, Hughes, Weddle. I just feel like some bad choices at key positions and an overall malaise seems to have constantly held the team down. When is the last time any player on this team has played at a probowl level?
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
I think Weddle is playing at a Pro Bowl level
but I think I’m in the minority there…Donald Butler is also playing really well
Dont agree with this
If anything the one positive I took from this game was Ryan Matthews. I personally thought he was the only one who showed up. With a beaten up, aweful OL he still managed around 140 yards and showed me that he has the potential to be great.
by BoltfromBoston on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
He is great, but he is also injury prone.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Well, at least we got basketball coming up soon
We might get a nice draft pick next year too, but as long as AJ’s still here it probably won’t be a very smart one.
I don't care what they say...
I just don’t want injuries to be their excuse…
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
I have nothing to say
4-7
Even pessimist fans couldn’t predict something like this
There will still be some
who defend. If you defend this it is the equivalent of defending your choice to stay with a chick who is cheating on you. You are an idiot.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
by A.J. G on Nov 27, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I'll rec that one
I have always been an advocate of Norv, but this team has just given up on him, time to move on.
And it's not like Norv is a really really hot chick. He's merely cute.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 27, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, this earns my rec.
Yeah, I came to this same conclusion when his one positive, his offense, sputtered and failed this game. If you’re a rational fan, I think it’s time to realize that this coaching staff has got to go.
How much of it do you think is personnel
as opposed to coaching? Has the coach changed in the past 5 years or the personnel? Just saying. Maybe our drafts and the folks we have let go has limited Norv to this point. Not defending him, but it is easy to blame the mouthpiece/puppet. Why haven’t we heard any quotes from AJ this past month?
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
Hope for 2012
Honestly, I am kind of excited about all of this (the collapse of the Chargers, that is). I have been a fan for almost 20 years and am growing tired of losing year after year because of poor coaching and bad drafting. I am actually hoping to see the Chargers go 4-12 just so that they will clean house.
To me it is much like Congress, we need everyone out and a whole bunch of fresh faces. I don’t mind re-building if the final product is a winning team and a different attitude toward football.
Will anyone bother to watch Dolts @ Jacksonville next week
Oh yeah, Jags fans, because they can actually win.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 27, 2011 5:05 PM PST reply actions
Sadly, this is what we all predicted when Norv was hired as head coach. The slow unraveling of a once talent laden team. I be AJ feels like a total schmuck. Looks like you dont have to know very much to be a GM if you got guys like AJ calling the shots.
"There are two great tragedies in life: One is not getting what one wants; the other is getting it."
"I like to consider the padres' team as a microcosm, or symbolic representation of my daily endeavor towards inner salvation." — Mysterious Cloaked Padre Fan
I want to believe
AJ feels like a D-bag, but we all know he will justify it somehow.
"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers
that is what he is always like
negative energy
sucks the life out of the room…and the team
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
postgame post is up
these comments are closing
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