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Fixing the San Diego Chargers Secondary

One of the larger holes in the San Diego Chargers roster this season has been in the secondary. Quentin Jammer has had some off games, Steve Gregory is Steve Gregory, Antoine Cason is struggling mightily against physical receivers and Marcus Gilchrist looks incredibly raw. It's time to think of how this group can be fixed by 2012.

 

Step One: Quentin Jammer, SS

Norv doesn't want to force Jammer to move and Quentin likes playing on the outside. That's all well and good, except that Jammer is needed more at SS than he is as the #1 CB. A Safety tandem like Weddle and Jammer, two guys that can do it all at those positions, makes the defense ten times more dangerous.

Imagine, as an offense, having to worry about throwing to a couple of good Cornerbacks, knowing that Weddle and Jammer could play man-coverage on a TE, RB or WR without there being a dropoff in the coverage. Both of those guys can also play the run well and blitz well. The Chargers would immediately have one of the best Safety tandems on the back-end of their defense, which would allow for the Defensive Coordinator to take risks and show different looks on every play.

What we need is a fiery Defensive Coordinator that can convince Jammer that a move to SS is how he's going to turn into a star and start making Pro Bowls. Someone that tells Quentin "I want to move you around, having you do different things and showing different looks. I want to build this defense around you." I feel like that would be enough to convince him to get off of the island.

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Step Two: Stuck at Cornerback

As far as 2012 go, the Chargers are somewhat stuck are Cornerback. Antoine Cason won't be cut because he has one (cheap) year left on his contract and they'll want to give him a chance to bounce back from this year (that started with a broken hand), although maybe not at starter. Marcus Gilchrist and Shareece Wright will still be here, and they've both been billed as future starters. Dante Hughes is signed for another year and has given the team no reason to look elsewhere for a fourth CB.

So what should the gameplan be for the CBs? Well, for one, improving the Safeties by moving Jammer will make it slightly easier on the guys that are here, but it wouldn't hurt to look around for a shutdown corner. If one should fall to San Diego in the draft, or if they could land someone like Cortland Finnegan, they should jump on it and then they can shop Cason around. If one doesn't, make it an open competition between the four guys here for the starting two spots and hope some of that potential materializes.

 

Step Three: Pass-Rush

The key to any good secondary is a good pass-rush. If San Diego wants to get back to being a tough defense against the pass, they need to do whatever it takes to improve the pass-rush immediately. Having guys like Wright, Gilchrist and Cason running around with no pressure on opposing QBs will do nothing but kill their confidence and stock around the league.

I have no idea how you improve the pass-rush quickly. You could try and bowl over a free agent like Mario Williams to get him to come here, or just cross your fingers when drafting an OLB that you're not getting Larry English part II. If the Chargers want to compete next season, and they do (whether or not they blow this thing up, the rebuilding process will need to be fast because Rivers isn't getting younger), it all starts with the pass-rush. That means making moves bolder than signing Travis LaBoy.

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Quentin Jammer could theoretically be used as Charles Woodson.

Both are big defensivebacks. And Jammer could easily put on 5 pounds of muscle. But Gilchrist and Cason need to improve even if just a little for them to be trusted 1 on 1.
An issue I see with the corners is their technique. So many times their coverage has been good but they aren’t playing the receiver/ball the way they should. It’s aggravating. It’s made worse by having no pass rush. Castillo and Phillips can’t get back soon enough….I’m starting to get tired of Gregory and Oliver. Moreso Gregory than Oliver

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?

by Superduperboltman on Nov 22, 2011 10:23 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Agree with all of this

Have a Rec

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by John Gennaro on Nov 22, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

One major problem with moving Jammer to SS is that he has absolutely no ball skills. By ball skills I mean not just decent hands, but also the ability to find the ball in the air and make a play on it. Jammer has never had that and if he could develop them, he would have done so already.

From the standpoint of being the right size having the right athleticism, Jammer is a great fit for SS, and he is already a willing tackler. Do we think that having him face the QB more than he does now is going to help? I’m a little skeptical. And having safeties with ball skills is critical in today’s NFL.

I love Jammer, and he has been an above average player and a solid citizen, but he has been exposed this year and I’m afraid his time at CB has ended. I love the idea of moving him to SS, but I worry that it is another experiment like the Bob Sanders experiment. We don’t need an experiment, we need a play-maker, and Jammer is not that play-maker.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Nov 22, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

you almost never see jammer playing the ball. No, he just pushes the reciever, and get flagged for P.I. or defensive holding.

by irishlad on Nov 22, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I've always contended

that Jammer plays much better facing the ball than turning & running.

At SS he’d be in that position more often.

Oops – just saw the other posts on this.

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by Buck Melanoma on Nov 22, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just going to say this

So I guess this means the Phillies making it past the 1st round of the 2010 post season was a fluke.

by Goofus on Nov 22, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Do we think that having him face the QB more than he does now is going to help?

That’s my stance.

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by John Gennaro on Nov 22, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

he may get to more balls

but we will need to train Weddle to trail him so he can catch the football as it careens off Jammer’s hands :-)

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Nov 22, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Technique is exactly the problem

I’ve ranted about it elsewhere. They aren’t playing to their own strengths, but rather playing to what the offense is doing, allowing the offense to essentially dictate coverage style. Cason clearly isn’t comfortable out there this year, I think as a result of being asked to play WRs that like contact, while Jammer is trying to play pure coverage and getting burned, forcing him to play a little too hard on the back end of the play. I blame coaching.

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by aesimpleton on Nov 22, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

that's what needs to change.

the scheme, or philosophy. to often coaches try to shoe horn players to playing in their system.

The peanut gallery has spoken!!!

by gatesoftds on Nov 23, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I have been yelling at our corners all year when they get burnt

by receivers. But than I realize, shit, our pass rush is horrible. I don’t care how good a CB is in the NFL, if they don’t get help from the pass rusher’s, the opposing QB will find ways to shred them all day long. When you watch our games and you see the opposing QB have time to sit there and scan the field it’s not hard for them to find an open receiver.

We really need to address pass rusher as are #1 priority. I also agree with Moving Jammer to SS. But I think we should look to experiment on that this season. If the Chargers season continues to falter and we have no chance of winning our division. Than Move Jammer to SS and give him some game time reps so the transition won’t be so hard next season. We won’t have to go through as much trails and tribulations since he has a few games and a full off season under his belt.

Let Cason playa as our #1 CB, maybe it wil give him more confidence and he might play better. Cason is a very gifted and smart athlete. I think he can be a very good Corner in this league if we have a pass rush. We’ll see how things go if Phillips comes back. But moving Cason to #1 CB and Jammer to SS this season will go a long way of helping us next season.

We should also address RB in our next draft. Mathews can be very good, but he has too many injuries and fumbles a lot. I also think Norv really doesn’t know how to use runners in this league. LT was right about that one.

by BOLTUREYE on Nov 22, 2011 10:39 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Totally agree

Except I think Ryan Matthews get one more year to prove he can contribute up to his potential. Just statistically these injuries could be an aberration. That said, he holds that ball way too far out..

by Robo65 on Nov 22, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

With Norv it was all about designing plays and the QB

when you have “Moose” Johnston and five 300 lbs.+ men in front of you, it’s easier to run the ball “up the middle” when you want.

The peanut gallery has spoken!!!

by gatesoftds on Nov 23, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Norv's running backs have consistently put up big numbers over the years.

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by Richard Wade on Nov 23, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

John-

Can you write an article on who our Next HC might be?? If it’s not going to be a big name, What assistan out there can be a very good HC for us??

by BOLTUREYE on Nov 22, 2011 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

True, one of the premises in the article seems a bit dated at this point...

“at least under Norv the team has remained one of the better teams in the AFC. He hasn’t destroyed the team and left it in shambles, he has driven the car smoothly while its aged and the value has gone down slightly.”

I am not seeing “one of the better teams in the AFC” (courtesy of DirecTV) on Sunday afternoons.

North Texas REALLY needs a Rubio's franchise.

by SDNativeinTX on Nov 22, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Ditto

Fiery and would hold players accountable. Bring back Chud to run the O

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by WesChandler89 on Nov 22, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

probably the best realistic option out there.

by irishlad on Nov 22, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't forget

This defense hasn’t received any favors from the offense. Imagine not having to play short fields or the run, because of a two or more touchdown lead. These can help the defese immensely.

by BULLETBAIT on Nov 22, 2011 2:54 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Im wondering why we have a stupid amount of 4-3 players being forced into a 3-4 defense!

by Lightning619 on Nov 22, 2011 3:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

True, but I was mainly talkin about our FA aquisitions( harris, brown, diggs, etc..) I understand drafting de’s to become olb’s especially since they are used situationally at first. But when you ask a lineman(interior) to step out of his comfort/beast zone, its like they have to mentally downshift a gear for the season or however long it takes them(if at all) to get adjusted to their new job! Just my opinion.

by Lightning619 on Nov 22, 2011 7:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

All the guys you named

were street FAs picked up mid-season, or close, as injury replacements.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 22, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

lol, im just trying to say that we have ALOT of 4-3 players in a not so effective 3-4 scheme. (i am a 3-4 fan btw)

by Lightning619 on Nov 22, 2011 9:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Beggars can't be choosers.

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by Richard Wade on Nov 22, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats the only truth lol, seems like when the big names r available the chargers already have their roster “set” and when they need someone the only thing left is the bottom of the barrel, I do like harris and diggs ALOT and havent seen enough of brown to judge yet

by Lightning619 on Nov 23, 2011 12:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

that's why it's so important to hit on Defensive players in the draft

they spend their entire careers in a different scheme, and in an instant are expected to be pro-bowlers in a 3-4. they simply need the time and coaching, to learn how the to play in that defense. which is why i criticized the realizing of FA like Jamal Williams. his experience at the NT position was irreplaceable. so drafting a kid, even if you have to trade up, allows Jamal to share that knowledge for a couple a years before they released him. the Chargers tend to Release vets, then draft his replacement.

The peanut gallery has spoken!!!

by gatesoftds on Nov 23, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

all 3-4 teams have 4-3 players

almost all 3-4 OLB’s were DE’s in college.

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
Could we get a Countdown to Castillo's return?

by Superduperboltman on Nov 23, 2011 5:46 AM PST up reply actions  

darrelle revis

we should pick up darrelle revis

then trade him to the jets for antonio cromartie

just kidding :)

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by bot on Nov 22, 2011 10:13 PM PST reply actions  

While we're at it

4-3, anyone?

You can never re-hash this one enough.

Bring back Marty too. And Brees.

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by Buck Melanoma on Nov 23, 2011 2:36 AM PST reply actions  

let's see

with Mathews at runner back, he’d be really happy to have a coach like Marty, but look at the rest of the league head coaches, I would think you’d rather have a different coach than Marty

by john1 on Nov 23, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

In the first 3 weeks

of the season I wanted Jammer to move to Safety right next to Weddle. CB’s are Cason and Gilchrist. yeah I know Bob Sanders wasn’t on IR yet, but he plays in the box, so he would’ve been playing like a LB with Philips, Spikes and Butler. I was just too excited to have Manusky as Chargers D coordinator.

by john1 on Nov 23, 2011 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

fire steve crosby!!!!

canadas marriage is like their money, or military, no one takes it seriously

by bot on Nov 23, 2011 5:58 PM PST reply actions  

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