5 Good Stats: Raiders at Chargers
Mike Tolbert & Ryan Mathews - 21 touches, 130 total yards
These guys are talented. It was actually kind of funny to see the Oakland Raiders using Michael Bush effectively, and know that Darren McFadden will be returning soon. It was a clear reminder that the San Diego Chargers have two very good RBs themselves, but they don't seem to get used properly most of the time.
These guys should be getting 15-20 touches each per game, not total. I understand that the Chargers were down for much of this game, but to give up on them when San Diego was only down by a TD seemed a little extreme. Each of them finished the game with over 5 yards per carry and over 7 yards per catch. They performed well when called upon.
Vincent Brown - 5 catches, 97 rec yards, 1 TD
It should've been 2 TDs and a lot more rec yards if not for an odd little NFL rule that nullified his second brilliant catch in the end zone. That play aside, Brown still proved that he's ready to be a starter and make that 3rd round pick seem like a steal. He ran good routes and showed good hands along with sneaky speed and toughness. His only rookie mistake came late in the game, when he ran an inside pattern when Rivers threw outside and it very nearly went for an INT.
Antwan Barnes - 6 tackles, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, 1 defended pass
I predicted before the season that Antwan Barnes, who isn't even a starting OLB when Shan Phillips is healthy, would finish the year leading the team in sacks. Right now, with 6 on the season, he has 3 more sacks than the next closest pass-rusher (Phillips). Teams still have success running the ball right at him, but Barnes is a play-maker and can not be stopped from getting to the QB if he's given enough snaps in a game. I shudder to think what SD's pass rush would be like without him.
Paul Oliver - 5 tackles, 2 tackle assists, 2 defended passes, 1 interception
Okay, it wasn't the best game, but there's not much to choose from. The Raiders relied on Oliver over-pursuing on a few plays to open holes in the run game, but when he got near the play Oliver tackled well and wasn't bad in coverage. When he had the chance t pick off a duck of a pass, he did.
Winning the Turnover Battle
I've been harping on this team all year for its inability to win the turnover battle. Teams like the Raiders and Chiefs, they don't win with talent...they win by winning the turnover battle and limiting mistakes. So what happens? The Chargers win the turnover battle and lose the game. I guess I couldn't account for 60% of the offensive line getting injured in the game, even though that always seems to happen when San Diego plays the Raiders.
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Oliver is still a step and a half above Gregory.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 11, 2011 12:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
This was my impression, too. Why do you suppose he was cut from the team before the season?
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
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by Richard Wade on Nov 11, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I really don't know. Bad preseason?
I can’t understand it. I’ve never seen him play poorly, honestly. Maybe it was fear about his health. He’s the tallest safety, which helps to cover TE’s, he’s fast, and he has good coverage skills. Wait, that’s it. He’s a FS, and with Weddle and Stuckey already at that position, he wasn’t needed.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 11, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
actually wasn't cut
He was a UFA who started the season with the saints. Was cut there and brought back once we realized Bob Sanders was Bob Sanders.
Losing him over the off-season may have been a money thing rather than not liking him.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Nov 11, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
You'll see when you look at the replay
He misread a lot of those run plays. Gregory wouldn’t have done that.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 11, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly John
He (Oliver) as responsible for one of Michael Bush’s big run. He over pursued on the play and Bush hit a wide open hole.
Gregory might not be the most athletic guy, but he is good against the run and decent against the pass (he plays really well in nickel although Hughes plays that more now) I prefer him over Oliver personally.
Totally agree about running game
Even Philip acknowledges it is off so why not pound the rock and establish that identity and get Philip some easier looks. Oh wait, same root problem – Norv. Does anybody have Jeff Fisher’s number?
Thoughts? "I have none. If there are any other developments, we will let you know." Charger GM - AJ Smith.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Nov 11, 2011 12:43 PM PST reply actions
Jeff Fisher
1-800-WTF-DUDE
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 11, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Spanos will tell us if he's selling soon
If he keeps AJ and Norv around after what is obviously heading toward a trainwreck, that will be a strong indication that he is selling the team. Any new owner would want to clean house and install a new regime so keeping this dead weight in place would tell me that he’s moving on and the Chargers are heading north.
I have to disagree about the "rookie mistake."
After the play, Rivers apologized to Brown; Philip made the wrong read.
by BORTZ on Nov 11, 2011 1:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Sorry but you're wrong
he was absalutely furious at him for about 2 seconds then hugged him and tried to console him
"I promise you, we’re going to build a dictating, dominating, attacking defense. I’ve said it a million times. It’s not a slight on our offense, but we’re not going to win any world championship until we have that." - A.J. Smith
That's what I thought
but nobody knows but them.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Nov 11, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
That's what I saw too
Also, he ran an outside route when he was supposed to run an inside one.
by Ferguson1015 on Nov 12, 2011 6:37 AM PST up reply actions
It had to be a challenge to even find 5 good things.............
That game was painful to watch :(
He is awesome............
Then he had to be assisted off the field in the 4th and appears to be dead like the rest of our team.
Barnes a beast..
Laboy sucks, needs to be benched after SP comes back, Harris needs to start, Brown is a great pick up. We nees to run more.
by BOLTUREYE on Nov 11, 2011 2:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
^This
And while we’re at it, cut English, and give his money to Barnes. after all he’s “actually earning his money”
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Didn't he get hurt in the 4th?
If so that is a serious problem
he'll still be back before English..
And Barnes has been more productive in less time.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
interior linemen wanted
Who is good out there in the FA market…
by Gorditoe1 on Nov 11, 2011 3:19 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
even if we did give Mathews and Tolbert 15-20 touches per game
I doubt we’d have better results. With our healthy Oline there were never big holes to run through and most plays were made on the RB’s skills…there were instances of good blocking but the Oline has been soft for awhile…we need to draft these freak of nature guys that can throw defenders 5 yards to the left or right and can truck through a brick wall…also if a lineman who is a proven monster is available next year in FA or trade we gotta pull the trigger I’m tired of all that he’s too old for what he’s asking shit, if AJ can take chances on projects giving them 4year contracts without taking a snap we can take a chance on a vet…regardless of position and past “character” issues…I’m sure Jared Allen has some bad habits but he was picked up by a similar conservative organization…I’m not saying we shoulda got him I’m just making an example of how we have not made an attempt to bring in players because of 3 “logical” force fed reasons that AJ lives by…..1) Asking price 2) Character issues 3) Age (not all the time but most)..and yet we always spend on project and health issue players
by Gorditoe1 on Nov 11, 2011 3:34 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Dysfunctional Bolts
Yesterday El Captain reminded me of poor Romo and Cutler manhandled by every NFL team. How he was running away from Defense and Blitzes all night. And to top that up receivers dropped some critical (and easy) passes, took wrong route. My eyes popped out when I saw Jackson (almost) walking in the end zone when Faiders where jumping up to grab the pass. How Blunderous (if that’s a word).
Nothing Good
How could you take anything good away from that disgusting heartless loss to the raiders. This team has lots of problems and nothing good going on. It is truely painful to watch so what we had 2 RB’s get 130 total yards the raiders had a second string back put up 250 by himself. How about doing soething like a WR screen every one else in the NFL does some type of it. How about a TE screen used to do that also. The play calling is horrbile on both sides of the ball those screen passes to bush were devastating and to make it worse it looked like it was some type of deleayed blitz what the heck is that. 3rd and long what is the first thing you look for SCREEN or DRAW. there was no one with in 20 yards of that beast once he cought the ball. And one more time Philip Rivers will never win a super bowl he is not a leader he is no Drew Brees does not have it in him.
And he had a Pennington like shoulder injury.............
and Rivers looked really good the 4 seasons after Brees left.
Can’t second guess that decision 5 years later cause Rivers is having a bad season.
This team just isn’t very good………………..period. Phillip can’t do it all himself.
rivers
A quarterback ahould the biggest motivator on your team rivers is as uninspiring as his play is. I hope I am wrong but I just dont see him bringing home a super bowl. 92 million wasted I dont care how good his stats are at the end of the day this team is moving backwards and it starts with el capitan.
dude come on...
He’s having a bad year. What are you saying,that maybe we should reconsider him as the franchise QB?!? Who would you select as a replacement?!? Nevermind man this whole concept is stupid…you don’t care about his stats that show he’s a good QB?…and you think he’s uninspiring,let’s cut his ass then…it’s obvious that you might not know what you’re talking about.
by Gorditoe1 on Nov 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Brees would still be in SD....
if he didn’t have a crappy 2003 season and wreck his shoulder in a meaningless game to end 2005 (i blame Marty). Rivers is having an off year just like Brees did in 2003 that’s all.
by boltsgamedayfootball on Nov 13, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs

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