The San Diego Chargers Will Fire Norv Turner
[EDITOR'S NOTE: Originally posted in November. Will our fearless leader actually eat his hat? Don't let him get out of this.]
Norv Turner's time in San Diego is almost over, I'm convinced. If he's still the Head Coach of the San Diego Chargers in 2012, I will eat my hat.
I've told anyone that has asked about Norv's job security that he was safe if the Chargers made the playoffs this season. If they didn't, he could be gone. Now, with the prospect of no playoffs for two consecutive years looming and the main reasons being that Norv's offense and his star pupil (Philip Rivers) are performing miserably, it seems like a sure thing.
7 of the 9 remaining games for the Chargers are against teams with winning records. 4 are against teams with at least 5 wins. The Chargers are 1-3 against teams they've played that currently have winning records, with that one win coming against the Chiefs (who are still not a very good team).
After the jump, I'll show you how those numbers equal a new Head Coach for the Chargers in 2012.
I like to think in best and worst-case scenarios. Here is what I think is the realistic worst-case scenario for San Diego the rest of the way:
LOSS vs Packers (4-4)
LOSS vs Raiders (4-5)
LOSS at Bears (4-6)
WIN vs Broncos (5-6)
WIN at Jaguars (6-6)
LOSS vs Bills (6-7)
LOSS vs Ravens (6-8)
LOSS at Lions (6-9)
LOSS at Raiders (6-10)
I know that seems drastic, but unless Rivers turns it around (and he's shown nothing to prove that he will) I can't see this team as good enough to beat any of those upcoming opponents. Even if he can turn it on, does it really change the outcome of any of those games? Maybe the Raiders and Bills home games, but the rest just seem like teams that are better than the Chargers this season.
The San Diego Chargers have deteriorated into a bad team. They have no pass rush, they can't stop the run, they have issues in the secondary and they spend more time turning the ball over on offense than actually scoring. These aren't problems that will fix themselves, they are issues that have gotten worse and worse under Norv Turner's tenure as the coach. But, I digress....
Here is the worst-case scenario for the Oakland Raiders from here on out:
WIN vs Broncos (5-3)
LOSS at Chargers (5-4)
WIN at Vikings (6-4)
WIN vs Bears (7-4) (The Bears are a terrible team on the road)
WIN at Dolphins (8-4)
LOSS at Packers (8-5)
LOSS vs Lions (8-6)
LOSS at Chiefs (8-7)
LOSS vs Chargers (8-8)
Realistically, the Raiders should win those two Chargers games and the Chiefs game too. Assuming that Carson Palmer is as good or better than Jason Campbell. They could definitely beat the Lions, too.
The Chargers' best-case scenario feels like 8-8, which is the Raiders' worst-case scenario. The Raiders should win at least 10 games, which I doubt the Chargers can do with their schedule. The Chiefs' schedule is so difficult that their best-case scenario is somewhere around 7-9.
Do you get it? I don't care that the Chargers were 4-1, or 4-2 with only losses to the "good" teams that they had played. They're about to be 4-4 and a game behind the Oakland Raiders, who have roughly 2 tough games for the rest of the season. The likeliest outcome from 2011 is now that the Raiders win the division and the Chargers are sitting at home again, "elite QB" and all. That is what it would take for the Spanos family and A.J. Smith to give up on Norv Turner as a Head Coach.
The number one reason Norv was hired was Philip Rivers. Rivers was going to will this team to a Super Bowl, as long as he had an Offensive Coordinator that could get the most out of him. That man was Norv, but when Rivers is leading the league in turnovers and the team is losing because of him (or winning in spite of him)....that job security as "Philip Rivers' mentor" sort of goes away.
Rivers is the only one that can save Norv Turner's job now. If he somehow turns back into 2009-2010 Rivers and carries the team to the playoffs on his back (with an MVP-like second half of the season), Turner could be safe. Otherwise, things will need to change in a hurry. A.J. Smith might have great respect for Norv, but he has no patience for missing the playoffs.
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BFTB will fire John Gennaro!
It's NEVER a shrimp on the barbie. It's not even a shrimp.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 10:41 AM PDT reply actions
You mean Vox will fire him.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 1, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
You may inside joke of which I know not, kimosabe?
I’m just a humble fan from a distant land…
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
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by John Gennaro on Nov 1, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
when does telling the truth, result in firing?
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Sadly, in life, probably a big percentage of the time.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
So true, but this is football.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Just a business, like any other.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Also when you're wrong, as you were here. Again.
The San Diego Chargers will fire Norv Turner on Tuesday - John Gennaro
Tuesday - Norv Turner is retained as HC by the San Diego Chargers.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Jan 5, 2012 6:33 AM PST up reply actions
Philip Rivers begins career best stretch against Green Bay, leading Chargers into the playoffs!
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
its gonna take more than a good stretch from Rivers to take this team somewhere
its a though schedule and there are several problems. How can this team go to Chicago and not expect to be pounded by Julius Pepper all night long?
I've been Rivering in public and I have faith.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think that it would take more than a good stretch from Rivers
If he had even been playing decent so far the Jets and Chiefs games would have been wins and they would be sitting at 6-1 right now.
Yup. Been a fine line between sitting pretty and this doomsaying.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree
Even with the poor playing, we got close losses. And I think Rivers can lead us to a W against the Packers, but I think we could lose to the Jags if not. This is just about him stop making mistakes. We didnt get worse but Rivers is not covering up the team weaknesses and has been one of those weaknesses right now
I'd argue that he showed signs of turning it around last night prior to the fumbled snap.
…unless Rivers turns it around (and he’s shown nothing to prove that he will)…
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by Richard Wade on Nov 1, 2011 10:46 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I do think if we'd won,
Rivers would be getting at least some of the credit for it (with his mistakes still rightly criticized), along with the D.
And I know I said if.
He did some good things, he’s just going to be remembered for the brain fade.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
agreed
He did had some good drives on that game. That 3rd for 18 was right on the spot for Crayton but… the first pick was just unexcusable. Gates was faaar away from that pass. Yes, i know, mistakes do happen, but not with those players.
Once again the chargers slept for one half and came back on the other half expecting to turn things around.
Honestly i don know whats happening cause they spent the whole week talking about playing a WHOLE football game and not just half, and that was exactly what happened
Tim Tebow has had a couple of good drives too
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by John Gennaro on Nov 1, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
And Brady lost this week.
32 QBs being flawless every week would be something to see. Just in a Best Case Scenario kinda way.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
so are you saying that because Brady lost
its an axcuse for excusing PR17’s play for the entire season so far? so you’re rational is Brady is an elite QB and so is Rivers,so if a loss by Brady isn’t made a spectacle in the media why is Rivers loss being fretted over?
Answer—Brady has not been a bumbling mistake prone elite QB like Rivers has been consistently this season…. Rivers has been the cause not all but has been for the most part the cause of the offensive struggles for the team and Brady hasn’t for his team….And before you start accusing me of a naysayer and not being a faithful Charger fan and saying “so you’d rather suck for luck” or that stupid ass run moar switch to the 4-3 fire norv fire aj rhetoric,take a look at boths TD to INT ratio and how they have both been playing this season….you’ll see that both players are the reasons their respective teams are where they are.
No
so are you saying that because Brady lost its an axcuse for excusing PR17’s play for the entire season so far?
I’d answer why, but you seemed to have enjoyed providing your own.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 2, 2011 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
im with you here
theres a lot of talk about Rivers needing more practice with Gates and Jackson but if im not wrong both receivers participated in all practices this week.
in the end theres no doubt that theres is something wrong with Rivers. Ive also no faith we will turn this around (at least for now). Maybe its an injury or just the mechanics, all i know its time to be humble and start from the basics
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by Steve Adler on Nov 1, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes you can make that argument...
However, he is not a rookie. this is not his first big game. If in fact Rivers is a an Elite QB, and i believe that he is, I should see and expect better from him at this point in his career. At what point, in a few snaps, did he demonstrate he was going to “turn it around”, that we did not see over the last 6 games?
The problem with Rivers? Is not singular, it’s plural, as in “problems”. Norv is still Norv, His Assistant HC for game management is gone. The Defense is not getting off the field, the turnovers and pass rushing is non-exsistant. (not getting Rivers the ball moar) They are learning what life is like without Sproles. Gates is playing on one foot. the running game is not very productive. the O-line is giving up a lot of sacks, and penalties. Defenses are not giving up th big pass play down the field, that Rivers likes.
Problems. plural…
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Elie QB's find a way to win....on a consistent basis.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
I think whoever gets 10 wins wins this division
Certainly the Raiders have the easiest schedule, but ultimately it could come down to who wins the two Chargers v. Raiders matchups. Bolts need to win both or they’re likely out.
Surely, this isn't the worst case scenario, just your version of it
Here is the worst-case scenario for the Oakland Raiders from here on out:
WIN vs Broncos (5-3)
LOSS at Chargers (5-4)
WIN at Vikings (6-4)
WIN vs Bears (7-4) (The Bears are a terrible team on the road)
WIN at Dolphins (8-4)
LOSS at Packers (8-5)
LOSS vs Lions (8-6)
LOSS at Chiefs (8-7)
LOSS vs Chargers (8-8)
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 10:56 AM PDT reply actions
It's my view of a "realistic" worst-case scenario
McFadden could always get hurt and they could finish 4-12
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by John Gennaro on Nov 1, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow John
I never thought an article like this would be on BFTB. But the Kool-Aid is running out and Rivers is out of sugar.
2007-AFC championship game, tons of injuries, most fans buy gallons of Kool-Aid
2008-Whupped by the Steelers in the 2nd round, still Kool-Aid left
2009-Beat in the 1st round by Jets, Kool-Aid is getting watered down and not tasting good
2010-No Playoffs, Kool-Aid is at the bottom of jug and time to ask mom to go to the store
The issue going forward, the Chiefs look like the better team for the future and the Chargers are do not. Adding Baldwin with Bowe and Breaston gives them a good crop of receivers. They have a legit pass rusher (Hali), a good LB (Johnson), a great corner (Flowers), and a good yound safety (Berry).
Also, the team has been constructed for Norv. You can say that the ‘07 team was still Marty’s team but now its all Norv’s players. And so far, they are not that good.
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by L Magico on Nov 1, 2011 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
if you get a qb
Then I might agree. You (chiefs) may be the new “chargers” win the division and lose in the playoffs.
Like last year. That’s what happened, the chiefs stole our koolaid. Now they’re the ones drinking it.
Yea, Cassell has some serious accuracy issues
but sometimes, a qb just has to be good enough. Dont know if he can take him to the Super Bowl, but they have built a pretty good young foundation of talent.
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
And, Im not a Chiefs fan
Bolt fan since 1990. Im just getting sick of Norv.
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You will eat your hat?
Someone give me a picture of John wearing a sombrero.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Nov 1, 2011 11:00 AM PDT reply actions
I would like to see a picture of said hat.
The problem here is that the Chargers front office has a problem with sticking with people for far longer than necessary.
i.e. Leaf, Davis
BOOM!
Imagining John wearing a Carmen Miranda jobbie...
… kind of an awkward sight, I must say.
An autumn Sunday,
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 1, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we can beat the Bills at home
There’s still a gleam!
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
While I don't think last night's loss was Norv's fault
I agree with the overall point of your post.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 1, 2011 11:03 AM PDT reply actions
Never said it was
Norv was brought in to ensure Rivers’ success. If Rivers is not succeeding, what’s the point of Norv being here?
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by John Gennaro on Nov 1, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
So..
If the team’s doing ok but Rivers isn’t, can we..
Fire Half of Norv!!!
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow. Thread went all Rivers on me there.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Mimes.
“This has been the worst thread ever”
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Right.
I’m agreeing with you.
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scheming, thieving, bad bushwackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates, you're just slackers!"
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 1, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
he was also brought in to maintain a certain level of continuity since we had just gone 14-2.
remember all the talk about “things aren’t going to change, norv was the OC here recently, just gonna keep doing what we’ve been doing, blah blah blah”? 5 years later this team couldn’t be further away from the identity the 2006 chargers had.
These Gaffes
By rivers are not the fault of Turner. Is he supposed to be coaching Pr on his ability to take a snap at this level? No, was an amazing once in a career type move. (unless ur Romo) :)
This assumes Carson Palmer doesn't suck
If I had to bet who’s going to unsuck first I’d have to bet on El Capitan. Mr. Acee needs to dig deep and find out who stole PR and replaced him with Matt Leinart.
If we win against the Packers
will you regurgitate that hat?
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by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 1, 2011 11:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Not eating it until 2012
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by John Gennaro on Nov 1, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you should eat it now
Might bring good JuJu
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 1, 2011 11:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
At least put the sauce on now. Let it ripen.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
It's marinating in its own juices
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by John Gennaro on Nov 1, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Buffalo will beat us
Guaranteed, Buddy Nix will prove who the real genius was all those yrs. We will beat Chicago, Rivers doesn’t lose to Cutler.
by nunz on Nov 1, 2011 11:17 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I wish we'd played Chicago earlier in the season
So Rivers could give Cutler his game back.
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by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm just going to throw this name out there... Rob Ryan
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Please no
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Since bringing in someone who coached bad Raiders teams worked so well before...
"second base is the bizness." -jbox
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And we are going to throw it right back.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Bill Cowher
saw an article that said both cowher and gruden are interested in returning to coaching, presumably with the dolphins.
Cowher claims he won't coach next year
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by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Could be leverage for new TV contracts
Like the one Gruden just signed. How about Parcells?
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I still think there is a chance the chargers could bring in Wade Phillips if Norv was fired
I’m not necessarily giving an opinion on whether he would be good or bad, but he was one of the favorites for the job when Norv was picked up.
by Ferguson1015 on Nov 1, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be terrible
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by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Somehow I doubt that
I think AJ wants to bring in someone that can be the Chargers coach for 10-15 years. Wade is 64 years old. He won’t be coaching in 10 years.
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If I was Dean spano
I’d hire a new GM, A J’s picks have been busts. And, his first job would be to hire a new coach and fire norv, now. This season is toast. Time to start re-building for next year. But won’t happen. The re-building will have to wait till next year (at least) I wonder if A J had a deal worked out ahead of time with the Giants. If not, his gamble picking eli could have blown up in his face. Imagine if Rivers had gone to the giants.
And if I were a carpenter? And you were a lady?
Would you marry me anyway? Would you have my baaaaaaaaby.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
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by John Gennaro on Nov 1, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
or as my dad used to say
if a frog had a glass azz, he’d only jump once.
by irishlad on Nov 1, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
if I was alex spanos...
Id already have slapped the sh!t out of dean…
by Jimmy.d on Nov 1, 2011 2:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
countless trips to the redzone and we get 4 FG's and only 1 TD..
Our play calling in the redzone continues to be a problem. KC has an awful defense and yet, Norv couldn’t find a way to score against them. Norv is still calling the same old plays and teams seem to know when they are coming. He has run out of tricks.
We had this game won and Rivers botched the snap…WTF..frankly, I am tired of Norv Turner and would like a coach that will bring the best out of his players. Norv doesn’t seem to do that. If we fire Norv, I hope to god Manusky doesn’t get the Job. As someone in here mentioned, ROB RYAN would make a competitor out of this team. Give him a try. I want a hard nosed, physical football team. Not a soft finess Norv tteam.
This team will probably get worse if Norv gets fired
I hate to say it, but it’s true. Here’s why.
1) AJ may also get the ax if this happens. That moves the younger Spanos into AJ’s spot. Because nepotism always works out well.
2) Who else is out there? Cowher says he won’t coach. Gruden is an annoying twerp who only ended his career mired in mediocrity.
3) This team is not nearly as talented as everyone seems to think it is.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 11:38 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Also
Gruden is locked into an ESPN contract for years. And he’s terrible.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 1, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
And judging by his commentary
he doesn’t even know the rules of the game.
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by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
mathews runs for 4 yards.
gruden: “what i want to know, is where is ryan mathews???”
world: …
Sadly, I can hear that in my head exactly as he would say it
same cadence and everything.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe because he said it yesterday.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 1, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Though there's a bonus if we do hire him
He’d be out of the broadcast booth!
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by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
depends on
Whether or not the spanoses really want to win. If o, they will hire a “known” GM. Someone with experience. Since you brought that up, I’ve been wondering if the spanoes being head of the scouting dept. has been why we’ve drafted lousey players.
We also need some fresh talent at receiver.
Teams have been taking away VJ, taking away Gates and Crayton is just not the same. Floyd is the only player that can help us, but he always gets hurt.
Our receivers are having trouble getting seperation, and when they do Rivers over throws them. I hope the Chargers look hard at Justin Blackmon. The talent level on this team is low. We had our chance in 06 and 07 and we blew it. Our next draft needs to be perfect, and AJ needs to stop being stubborn and bring in some talented FA players, with mean streaks. We need a dominant pass rusher, receiver, safety and Corner, OL and DL.
Our secondary seems to get burned at every crusial point of the game. and Our defense just can’t seem to get to the QB when we really need them too.
We have slow players on offense and defense. We need more speedy players, we need more aggressive players and we need a more aggressive coach.
RIVERS, GET UR SHIT TOGETHER…WE CAN’T USE THE EXCUSE THAT WE ARE 4-1, 4-2..GUESS WHAT, WE ARE NOW 4-3 AND HAVE GREEN BAY ON DECK COMING OFF A BYE WEEK..WOULD BE VERY WELL ON OUR WAY TO BEING 4-4..SCORE SOME DAMN POINTS.
Glad to finally see some reason on BFTB regarding Norv
I have been wondering if SB Nation has some agreement with the franchises from directly calling out the GM’s or head coaches. And defending them when the boards turn on them.
When they made the hire, I remember a quote from one of the FO guys, saying that he was brought in to get the team over the playoff hump to the SB, but they wondered how long that would last when we did not even make the playoffs.
Seems like a nice guy, seemingly a good OC, just not getting it done.
I think the Turner decision is grounds for canning AJ as well, though the question there is who would replace him. I don’t love his picks, but he is not horrible.
the spanos' basically decided that AJ was the guy that would get them to the super bowl...
…when they stuck with him over shotty who just went 14-2 with the best team we’ve had in in years. i think the whole AJ/norv experiment has to be over if we don’t even make the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row and they have to start over. we’ve essentially wasted all of the years of superior talent in the division at this point.
I still like AJ as a GM..but if we fired him....
We should go hard at getting Eric Decosta..best damn guy for the Job. I know he won’t leave the Ravens, but he might for the right price.
We probably can't outbid their owner
Dude has tons of money.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 1, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Hope that hat tastes good!
Not that you’re not spot on with your reasons WHY Norv should get fired, but the sad truth is we here at BFTB don’t control the fate of the Chargers — on or off the field. AJ and Norv are BFFs. Plain and simple. And Deanos doesn’t have the cajones to shake things up as much as he needs to.
Oh, and one other thing. I’m sick and tired of the Houdini acts Norval pulls off! Last night’s game was a perfect example. I watched the first quarter and saw a team in utter disarray in all 3 phases of the game. I come back from Halloweening, and they’re completing a 2 point conversion to tie it! And he pulls the same hypnotizing crap in the second half of seasons! So while we’re all calling for his head NOW, he’ll win a few games in December to make us all forget. Please — Norv — for the sake of the good of the team — tank it in December so we can fire your butt!
by Andy (allfield) on Nov 1, 2011 11:51 AM PDT reply actions
Please — Norv — for the sake of the good of the team — tank it in December so we can fire your butt!
Wow.
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by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
De-rec
Norv’s trying. It’s sort-of working.
Next year, they need to draft a pass-rusher and a RT in the first two days. But the playoffs are still a possibility. The road to the playoffs: sweep Oakland, beat Denver, and win at least half of the other six. Far from impossible, if Rivers figures out the way back to his old self.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 1, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
My point was merely that rooting for the Chargers to lose is as pointless as hoping they will fire Norv
This fanbase (as represented by those here, so not the entire fanbase) seems to have trouble accepting the reality of this team:
A) Not as good as advertised.
B) Slow in-game starters.
C) Slow in-season starters.
D) Strong in-game finishers.
E) Strong in-season finishers.
F) When they lose — which teams do — something crazy, unforeseen, inconceivable, and specific tends to happen.
Whining and complaining about it is acceptable, but is not going to change it.
by Andy (allfield) on Nov 1, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Not as good as advertised
But whose fault is that? It’s not on the team or the coaches. It’s the media and the fans who keep thinking this is still a superbowl team.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
dude cmon man
somebody bust out a video reel with Charger brass and players saying this team is prepared and better than last year and they expect for the team to be in the playoffs…DEEP IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!!
PLEASE SOMEONE PLEASE….SHOW THIS GUY!!!!!!!!
I hear you
but who believes those guys? I mean, they’ve been saying that for years.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
A right tackle? That is so low on the list of priorities...
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
by Richard Wade on Nov 1, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Spanos loves
AJ and Norv
They will not be fired
but probably given extensions and pay raises before the end of the season.
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
Short of Rivers playing like the Rivers we saw the last three years
I don’t see Norv surviving this, no matter how much Spanos loves him.
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by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 1, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
We're 4-3, with plenty of football left to play...
a win is a win…..
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
but that wasn't the 4-3 that we wanted...
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And a loss is cause for everyone to go nuts.
because it’s impossible to make playoffs at 8-8.
I think it’s UN-realistic to believe believe that the Chargers will go 1-4 at home down this stretch.
BOOM!
the 2010 seattle seahawks beg to differ
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And the 2008 San Diego Chargers
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
We're a game ahead of the '08 Chargers at this point.
A similar trajectory would have us at 9-7 with a credible shot at the postseason.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 1, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
i don't think 9-7 gets a playoff spot, in the AFC.
to many good teams that will not get a wildcard with 10 wins.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
and the 85 browns
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 1, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Suppose they do fire Norv and AJ...
wouldn’t that make it easier for the Spanos family to pack up and move to LA next year?? Start from scratch? If that happens….LA better give us the Clippers back!
I expect the Chargers to finish 10-6
maybe 9-7 not sure if that will get them into the play offs or not.
In recent years this team has won with a high powered offense and a top level QB, right now they have neither. If the offense doesn’t come around then I think a good case could be made that Norv should be fired but I don’t think that the Chargers are at that point yet.
by JeromeB on Nov 1, 2011 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I can see this division
Coming down to the last game.
“You’ll pay for the whole seat but you”ll only need the Edge! Edge! Edge!
Coming from a Chiefs fan here
It’s so clear that Norv is the problem in San Diego. Can you imagine a Marty-coached team making the constant mistakes that have crept into the Chargers over the past four years? If you take a step back the pattern is so clear.
Norv is a perfect OC, but he’s not a leader. Get a real leader as a HC, hire a good OC and San Diego would be up there with New England every year.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Can you imagine a Marty-coached team making the constant mistakes that have crept into the Chargers over the past four years?
I don’t have to imagine it because the mistakes of Marty’s teams have been burned into my memory.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
well I have to admit that I only followed the Marty-Chargers twice a year & in the playoffs, so I may be wrong. I just know that when he was KC’s coach we had a very disciplined team..it’s not a trait I’ve seen in the Chargers over the past few seasons.
Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things
Marty's teams did well in the regular season
but self-destructed spectacularly in the post season. It seems to be a franchise issue more than a coaching issue.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Marty's Charger teams made tons of mistakes.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
by Richard Wade on Nov 1, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree with everything
except “Norv is a perfect OC”
this team is a bumbling mess – like its head coach
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
No need for imagination. The Schottenheimer coached teams made just as many terrible mistakes.
Can you imagine a Marty-coached team making the constant mistakes that have crept into the Chargers over the past four years?
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
True. But they just didn't "look" as obviously bad at it, as Norv's team is.
marty’s team made mistakes in the clutch.
Norv’s, just anytime is a good time.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
One can only hope
that hat is constructed of fecal matter . Bon appetit !
On a side note should norv and AJ get the boot , I suggest Mangenious as HC and anyone from myself to a cardboard cut-out as GM . First off I’d fire all personnel people responsible for the Mathews deal , the English selection and general malaise permeating the Chargers complex , including John-John.
um
norv is not the best coach in the leauge but u have been banged up at RB with Gates hobbled it was a bad loss no q but who is better because the new coach might want to do a McD and mess everything up if rivers plays to his level of past years u can complete with most anyone because A J will not hire a big name a short term fix wouild be parcells but A J wouild have to go too
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
worst-case best case
SD Best case GB Loss sorry they are scary good OAK L @CHI L DEN W unlees i can go into fox brain @Jax loss they love low scoreing ugly games Buf W Balt L @DET L @oak L Best case GB L Oak w Chi w DEN W @ Jax W Buff W Balt L @ Det L Oak W KC Best Case Mia W Den W @ NE L Pitt W @ NYJ W @ CHI W GB L @ Den W Oak W Worst Case Mia L Den w @ NE L Pitt L @ NYJ L @ CHI L GB L Oak L @Den L
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
Are the Broncos letting their fans coach the team yet?
They should.
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rofl
i wouild have to play ugly football maybe start quinn run no huddlie play a ne syile on D maybe run my mouth get presser on the qb by all out biatiz brainwash tebow that he is at UF if i got to be coach and gm of denver pull off the biggest draft trade in history trade 52 players expect V Miller to indy for A Luck put a posin pill in for every player they kept i get to pick 1 of theirs off like E Decker i get freeny R Clany then i get matins for doom i get R Wayne
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
Should the Bolts finish 6-10
A.J. should pack his bags along with Norv. It maybe time for a fresh perspective in the front office, along with the coaching staff.
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worst case best case OAK
Best Case DEN W @ SD W @minn W CHI W @ MIA W @ GB L @ DET W @ KC W SD W Worst Case Den L @ SD L @ MINN L Chi W @ MIA W @ GB L @ DET L @ KC L SD L
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
minus the green bay game
These are all winnable, depending on who shows up. The ravens looked real good the last two weeks losing to JAX and needing a 21 point comeback against Arizona at home. Yes we are having problems but most of the teams on our schedule are as well.
MIssing SD from PDX
Even GB is winnable
It’s at home, where we haven’t lost yet. GB is vulnerable on defense.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Imagine if the Chargers had hired Jim Harbaugh...
It’s a nice thought.
Norv isn’t the only problem but he does need to go. But so does AJ, even more than Norv, in my opinion. He’s missed far too many times in the draft lately and his track record over the last 3-4 years is questionable at best. Sad to say, but I worry that the Chargers’ window is closed. Gates will never play a healthy season again, they lack an elite WR, McNeil is in decline, Mathews has a very low football iq and very high propensity to get banged up and they don’t have many players on the rise. Just not a good situation any way you slice it. People keep waiting for them to regain their form of a couple of years ago, but I don’t think they can/will.
I hope you don't have to eat your hat
Rivers is the only one that can save Norv Turner’s job now.
At this point I’m REALLY hoping Philip continues his Year of the Eli circa 2010. If AJ won’t fire Norval, the axe should fall on him as well.
Multiple thoughts
1. I echo thoughts of gratitude for BFTB not necessarily ingesting more kool-aid, but appealing to reason.
2. GM/HC hybrid? Boss Ross is still alive, but I mean someone else because that would be a tad unrealistic.
3. What college coaches would be a good fit with the team? Better them than some throwaway person (Sparano).
4. I think if AJ keeps his job, he needs someone that won’t be “his guy”. That’s how we got stuck with Norv. Get someone who has talent, is willing to work with AJ but not necessarily to the point of total obedience.
on thought 4
ABSOLUTELY! Better yet, why not just fire AJ? Maybe not altogether, keep him there for negotiating contracts but as far as drafting ….. NO. The Chargers were put together with a team effort back in the Marty days when he also had input on selections – and he built both sides of the ball. This guy here (AJ) has been terrible over the last 7-8 years. You can’t recover from draft failures like that, especially if you are failing in the free-agency market as well. You tellin me that none of these “stars” in the NFL want to live in San Diego?! Really?!
Scheme decoded
It looks to me like our scheme has been decoded and every team knows how to play our offense. The routes are predictable and there is no more exciting variety of plays. We are being dulled to death. I’m a big Charger/Rivers fan but I don’t even like this years team at all they are like Norv stuttering pricks.
So either the scheme no longer fits the players or the players no longer fit the scheme.
Bottom line Norv and Philip have never beat Tom Brady, Big Ben and now Rex the hex.
One definition of insanity is trying something over and over again and expecting a different result.
Hey but its Norvember right? I knew at the start of the season we would have to fight and claw to get 10 wins. It really doesn’t matter now does it?
Buddy Nix was the true scout not AJ.
We need to change our scheme/tendencies and scout ourselves to figure this out.
fire Norv
im not sure why everyone is surprised that the chargers suck this year? Norv has never been a winner . i know every one keeps saying well he won with the cowboys like 100 years ago .. yes but he was not the head coach… im not a super sports fan .. even i know norv has always suck … this is why i give no credit to AJ smith.. becasue he hired the worst coach ever… i knew when he got hired that they would never win a super bowl with this clown… anways i will have a party the day he gets fired.. why would some one hire a coach that was in the raiders it makes no sense
Norv's so terrible that the team has had more success under him than any other coach in the team's history.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
by Richard Wade on Nov 16, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
fire him
I say fire the bum
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/fire-norv/
EAT THAT HAT!!!!
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
EAT THE HAT!

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say sh-- or fu-- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Jan 4, 2012 12:54 PM PST reply actions 15 recs
that was definitely from a different post
i dont think that hat-eating promise came true. so i can totally eat a different hat, right?
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by John Gennaro on Jan 4, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
ATTENTION BFTB: REC THE PIC ABOVE
if you want to see the man wearing it consume it!
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say sh-- or fu-- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Jan 4, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I need a doctor to tell me if I'd live through the ordeal
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Jan 4, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
you would.
My brother lost a bet and ate 25 sheets of (clean) toilet paper. He was fine.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say sh-- or fu-- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Jan 4, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Brilliant.
The only person I know of who can crap and wipe at the same time.
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Bolts from the Blue
Paper is biodegradable though. A hat wouldn't really break down.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
if people can eat nails and glass
I’m sure a hat won’t be too difficult.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say sh-- or fu-- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Jan 4, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
You'll probably be okay so long as it's a cotton hat
Cotton is a plant. Just like trees are plants. Paper is trees.
(And soylent green is people)
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by creanium on Jan 4, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Science win!
or plant biology win….of some sort
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say sh-- or fu-- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Jan 4, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
IJALA
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
Dogs do it all the time and they are fine
not calling you a dog or anything
The fans are going to be so loud they are going to hear us in the next Dimension - abayarde
by BillsFanSanDiego619 on Jan 4, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I'd be ok with commuting the sentence from a hat to 25 sheets of toilet paper. ;/
by Orz on Jan 4, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not.
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
I think the important question to ask here is : WILL IT BLEND?
by Orz on Jan 4, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
The important question to ask is if that would count.
The answer is no.
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
It's a gentleman's meal
A plate, a hat, a fork, a knife, and a salt shaker. That’s it.
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"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Jan 4, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
You'd live through the ordeal.
I know because I Googled how to be a doctor. I’m now a doctor.
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by creanium on Jan 4, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
rec
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say sh-- or fu-- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Jan 4, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
here you go

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say sh-- or fu-- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
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by Superduperboltman on Jan 4, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Real hat!
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
I hate you all so much
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by John Gennaro on Jan 4, 2012 12:55 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
EAT THE HAT

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by creanium on Jan 4, 2012 12:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
saving for Fat Booth
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
If it works with a shoe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGcWTIWYDMQ
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
Eat the hat!
Eat the hat!
Eat the hat!
Eat the hat!
(Chanting just doesn’t work the same on the internet.)
I have an out for you....

Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
I vote no.
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
You lose.
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Backup Plan

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by John Gennaro on Jan 4, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Within the next week I expect a front page video.
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by njg425 on Jan 4, 2012 3:11 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
WERNER HERZOG ATE HIS SHOES
Lost a bet, had a chef cook his shoes. He ate them.
Yup, I posted the trailer a few posts up
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Jan 4, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
almost as entertaining as the demands for John to eat his hat
is looking at our opinions from 3 months ago… Oooof. It felt a little like seeing that picture of yourself in high school with the neon yellow bathing suit and a mullet…
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Jan 4, 2012 3:47 PM PST reply actions
Feeling pretty good about mine.
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
Don't ever underestimate the power of canned meat
Spanos loves
AJ and Norv
They will not be fired
but probably given extensions and pay raises before the end of the season.
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
by Hormel on Nov 1, 2011 11:52 AM PDT reply actions
ain’t gonna happen
AJ and Spanos love Norv
and Spanos loves AJ
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
by Hormel on Nov 20, 2011 4:16 PM PST up actions
Norv will be here next year
and nothing will change
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
by Hormel on Jan 2, 2012 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
next time someone bitches about keeping norv
We can all say, “yeah well i got to watch a guy eat a hat because of it, want to watch the video?”
and it will immediately defuse the situation.
bravo john, bravo
2012 the calendar year, or the 2012 football season?
if it’s the latter, at the very least it buys john some time.
I'll be a good guy and give John an out

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john might be a packer fan after this
because i shall present john an out too. since i usually mostly agree with him about football.

I suggest deep frying your hat
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
and...
This might be too far out there… But what would the resigning of LT do for ticket sales? Third down back anybody?
by Lightning619 on Jan 4, 2012 9:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
i actually was thinking about it
and wouldnt mind. but i wouldnt want him as a third down back, simply a third string back. only in if there are injuries or if its 3rd and long
Tomlinson kinda sucked this year running the ball and wasn't as good as RM24 at catching the ball.
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
agreed on RM
i just think it would be a good PR move, but he would have to be willing to accept his role. If he would be strictly a pass protector (on third and longs) and the third string RB it wouldnt be to bad a move
I think I would rather have LT catching some of the balls that Tolbert gets thrown his way.. But as a runner its RM24 all the way. And who knows if Tolbert will even be back next season. AJ might need to clear some cap space for a “Big” FA signing! Lol
by Lightning619 on Jan 4, 2012 11:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You gotta admit
This hat eating thing is certainly helping get traffic to the site.
You may wish to be careful about which hat you chose to consume.
One of our commenters (John Stephens IIRC) came close to having to eat a terrible towel in 2010 after making a rash prediction about the likelyhood of the Steelers drafting a RB in the 1st round. Happily the Steelers didn’t go for a running back but it was a scary moment.
anyone trying to contact me via my yahoo account should be aware it has been hacked
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 4, 2012 9:48 PM PST reply actions
This has been good for traffic. Mostly thanks to Arrowhead Pride.
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
ahem, thanks to me.
For putting it on AP. And MHR, and facebook, and twitter, and the washington post. But actually just AP and MHR
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say sh-- or fu-- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Jan 5, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
This
:-)
anyone trying to contact me via my yahoo account should be aware it has been hacked
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 5, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
I'm aware.
Bolts from the Blue // "At least when Wade is spewing vitriol he does so with an intellectual flair." - insanebolt21
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
I really didnt notice John be wrong much this year.
When you hold several conflicting opinions at once and change your mind 12 times a week, its tough to pin down where you go wrong. In truth, he was just the ultimate victim of too many double and triple jinxes. Hat eating is about the right punishment. Large, sombreroish. No laxatives allowed. Needs to feel like a hat at both ends.
The San Diego Chargers will fire Norv Turner on Tuesday - John Gennaro
Tuesday - Norv Turner is retained as HC by the San Diego Chargers.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Jan 5, 2012 6:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs

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