Chargers Fall to the Chiefs: Good, Bad, and Ugly
by Steve Adler on Nov 1, 2011 9:19 AM PDT
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PrintChargers traveled into Kansas City to play a hot Chiefs team in one of the loudest stadiums in professional sports. Just last weekend they had to travel 3000 miles to play the Jets in New Jersey, and now this? Minus Shaun Phillips, Kris Dielman, Mike Tolbert, Luis Castillo, and Bob Sanders, all lost to injuries. Was it fair to expect a win from this Chargers team? Absolutly! Why? Championship teams find ways to win games like this and in all fairness, the Bolts were a botched fumble away from the victory.
Like you, the thought of that fumble still makes me sick to my stomach, but unfortunately as a fan, we sign up for games like this. The Chargers did a great job of fighting back from an early 10-0 deficit and after the first quarter if you would have told me they would have the ball first in overtime with a chance to win, I would have taken that in a heart beat. Final score: Chiefs 23 - Chargers 20 (OT)
Good:
Eric Weddle - It amazes me that some people are still complaining about his contract. His two interceptions pushed his season total to five. Weddle also finished with seven tackles (all solo) and deflected two passes. Weddle has been fantastic this year and worth every penny the Chargers are paying him. Pro Bowl bound?
Nick Novak - Novak practically lives on this list. It should be noted that he missed his first field goal of the year, but I'm not going to blame the guy for missing a 52-yard FG after he makes four others. For three quarters Novak was the offense, connecting from 44, 44, 42, and 26 yards. It's just a shame he didn't have his chance to win the game.
Donald Butler - The Butler did it... again. Donald led the team with eight tackles (five solo) and recorded a tackle for loss. Butler was all over the place at the end of the game, when most of the defense seemed to run out of gas.
Malcom Floyd - Playing like a man possessed, Floyd turned in his second 100+ yard game of the season. In 2010 Floyd only eclipsed the century mark once, without Vincent Jackson most of the season. Seven targets, five catches, and 107 yards.
Honorable Mention: Curtis Brinkley
Bad:
Vincent Jackson - Eight targets, three catches, for 49 yards on Monday for Jackson. Over his last three games he has seven catches for 98 yards. This is not the type of production top tier receivers give. If Jackson wants to stay in San Diego and get paid, he needs to start playing like an elite receiver.
Ryan Mathews - I've had two concerns since the moment Mathews was drafted. Can he stay healthy and will he hold onto the football. For the most part Mathews has held onto the football this year, but he has been banged up most of the season. Tonight he coughed up a ball deep in Chiefs territory and in the second half he was removed with a groin injury.
Ugly:
Philip Rivers - After Rivers threw his second interception, he really seemed to get into a rhythm. 26/41 369 yards, no touchdowns and two interceptions is not a terrible stat line, but I cannot over state that turning over the ball three (almost four) times is unacceptable. As encouraged as I am by Rivers' play most of the game, he is making mistakes that an elite quarterback shouldn't make against middle of the road teams.
Marcus McNeill - Of the 12 penalties on the Chargers, six of them were credited to McNeill. Four false start calls, one holding, and an illegal use of the hands added up to 40 additional yards to overcome for the Chargers offense. Tamba Hail also tallied two sacks on the day.
Schedule: After starting off 4-1, and finding a way to win games they lost in 2010, this Chargers team seems to be folding. With the Packers, Raiders, and Bears coming up, it looks like it could be a rough three weeks for Chargers fans.
That's the GBU from my end. Who made your list?
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Marcus Gilchrist didn't do any better than Cason
he’s on my bad list. Gave up 3 big catches, including the TD.
Bront Bird with his stupid penalty. Steve Gregory for missing 3 crucial tackles.
This team needs an elite pass rusher opposite shaun phillips, and a true Strong Safety.
That will really help the defense.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 1, 2011 9:26 AM PDT reply actions
Gilchrist
I don’t think he played as poorly as some are saying. On the touchdown he had his man covered but stumbled at teh end. That touchdown was more a result of poor QB pressure. I expect if the front seven could get a pass rush our corners (Cason included) would look much better. They are not talented enough to be left alone on an Island for so long (Jammer possibly excepted).
by Fouts of Rage! on Nov 1, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
This is teh end, beautehful friend!
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
he did. game review confirms it.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 1, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree to an extent
but stumbling at the end was part of the play. I liked the fact that if Rivers didn’t fumble the snap the Chargers would have won.
Phillips or Dielman play and this team gets the W
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Probably, but the Chiefs aren't healthy either.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
by Richard Wade on Nov 1, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe not healthy from the start of game 1...
…but since losing Berry, Charles, and Moeaki, they have been extremely healthy, and have played with pretty much the same group every single week. It’s not an excuse, but KC certainly has been able to develop a lot of continuity in the last month by having the same guys stay healthy during that time.
Phillips, maybe.
Dielman, no.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 1, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Dielman doesn't play defense, or play tackle
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 1, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think McNeill probably plays a little better with Dielman to his right, but mostly agree with you.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
but that's what backups are for...
you can’t call, we win if so an so were in the game. you either believe in your talent, and coaching or you don’t.
the Packers won a championship, with a lot of their starters out for most of last season.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Not buying it
The problem was not scoring tds and Rivers poor play just like it has been all year, I don’t see Phillips or Dielman changing that on Monday.
McNeill is hurting bad and didn't have Dielman.
Take away one of those, and maybe he didn’t make that penalty.
This game could have gone either way. Don’t flip out about this game. If they fall to 4-5, you can fold on them.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 1, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am not flipping out or folding
I just don’t buy the excuse that if either Phillips or Dielman played they would have won.
What if Marty had stayed, would they be Champions?
the world is filled with woulda’, coulda’, shoulda’. they weren’t play that well “with” Deilman. i understand where your coming from. Deilman gives them a better chance at that position.
but it is what it is…
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Agreed on Gilchrist
along with the catches, he was missing a ton of tackles.
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
Pass rush needs to be in the fugly category
Even down Philips we need to do better than that. Even when the front seven couldn’t cook up a rush RR found something to throw at them to keep them confused.
Well, they did get 3 sacks
And at least got in the QB’s face a couple of times, So I wouldn’t necessarily list them under the ugly catagory. They actually did better than I expected, though I didn’t expect much of them to be honest.
The defense played good enough to win..........
Including the OLBs. Look……….Phillips and English were out (arguably the 2 best pash rushers on the team). I thought the pass rush would be way worse than it was. 3 sacks, and a forced fumble is pretty good considering the injuries.
Plus the defense generated 4 turnovers (2 Weddle interceptions/ Laboy FF/ and Martin FF on Mccluster). That’s 4 extra possessions for the offense. And what did they do with them ………4 turnovers of their own.
The defense was serviceable last night and played good enough to win, including the pass rush.. The offense let them down huge.
by J Korber on Nov 1, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you
I thought the defense played very well last night. They gave the Offense the ball in good field position multiple times and there was a fairly long stretch of the game where the Chiefs could not even get a first down.
I am willing to give McNeil a pass
because i think he is playing with a real injury. Says bad things about LT depth. But he certainly had a horrible game.
But four false starts? Four.
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Fair is Fair
McNeil is a 3 time pro bowler that had a bad game,with a neck injury, against an awesome pass rusher.
What’s Clarys’ excuse? we call him "false start " for a reason, yet he gets a pass. and a long term deal, no questions asked.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
I am a big McNeil fan
and was happy to see him get his big contract, but he sucked lasts night. I am sure that he is hurting but if you are out there you have to do better than that.
Hold on, this isn't about his play, but getting a "Pass"
McNeil played terrible, that’s not in question. and i agree. But on this board, BFTB, Clary gets a “pass” for his moderate game play, false starts, and new deal with no hassles from management.
McNeil, goes to a pro-bowl, gets hurt, comes back and goes to his second pro-bowl. holds out for a long term deal, doesn’t get it at first, comes back an plays the second half of the season, and “still” makes the pro-bowl.
there is a saying in the league, " Do what you have to do, to protect your QB’s blindside.." Which would you prefer, penalties, or PR on his back? McNeil “was Not” 100% against a Pro bowl pass rusher. He had Crappy game, 1 crappy game.
Clary is famous for his “false starts”, and in MHO, has done nothing worth the contract he got. yet still he got pushed around and gave up the sacks…
McNeil will be better next game. i have complete confidence the Pro-bowler will bounce back, so he gets a “pass” from me, because he’s proven he’s better that this. every player has a game or two like this, in their careers. i can’t say much for Clary.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Clary's also a right tackle with much lower expectations placed on him.
And I can’t remember Clary having a game as bad as McNeill’s.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
Then you should check your memory.
Clary has a history of false starts, and just bad games. McNeil saves all his for one game. so i guess that makes them even.
Regardless of Clary’s level of responsibility, he still has to pass protect an run block. but manages to do neither very well.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
By saying that I thought McNeil sucked Monday night
I was in no way trying to say that Clary was great and I can’t be held accountable for what other people may say about Clary on this site.
Again I like McNeil, was happy that they signed him to a long deal and think he is a top quality lineman. I guess I am just not as big on the whole giving people a pass thing.
Agreed. McNeil needs to be accountable like everyone else for mondays game..
but more to my point, this isn’t a “pattern” for McNeil.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
That was Dombrowski vs. Seattle bad last night.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
bad on coaching
i thought therre were some areas where the coaches couldve done a better job.
Hali was havin a great game either rushin on the left side or the right side. Put a TE on him to help block!!!!
The sack on overtime killed the chance to finish that drive
by cleyton on Nov 1, 2011 9:33 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Thats what I was saying
when Hali was constantly beating everyone on the line. The players made a ton of mistakes, but watching Hali always beat our guys reminded me of last week and Cason getting abused. Make an adjustment!
I know bewsaf will break down the oline film and explain what happened. But they highlighted how Romeo crennel was double teaming our best players. Dont understand why we couldnt double team their best defender.
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
and a help on the last drive would go such a long way
after the sack on second and long there was just no hope rivers would connect a 3rd and 18 inside our own 20 yards on overtime. he could not risk gettin picked again. im with you here.
last week was on Burres, this weak on Hali, can we expect this every week now?
Have to agree with you there
Rivers is very talented and can really make things happen if he has a lot of time in the pocket. Even plays that broke down when the Chiefs fell back into a prevent type defense and only rushed three – Rivers wiggled out of the pocket and gave his WR’s a chance to get open and made some really nice long conversions to move the chains.
Why there wasn’t more pass pro in the way of a HB/FB/TE held in to help block, I’m not sure. McNeill definitely needed the help vs Hali.
Though obviously due to my allegiances, I can’t say I’m disappointed. But it did seem odd to me that he had so little help.
We Don't Hear The Hate
AAAAANNNNNNND, it begins.
let’s get things gong, shall we?
Fire Norv. get rid of Aj ego. Sapnos is a Moron. this team is all hype. in the minds at Charger park, this team is winning. Should’ve run the ball MOAR. help me out am i missing anything?
please. we’re 4-3 with plenty of football left to play.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
I'm with you
but man that schedule looks rough.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
On the brightside
it is finally Norvember. That counts for something, right?
I hate scooter pie
by Lmbs2slaghtr on Nov 1, 2011 10:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We shall see
Not feeling to optimistic right now.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Fire Sapnos!
Fire Norv. get rid of Aj ego. Sapnos is a Moron. this team is all hype.
It's NEVER a shrimp on the barbie. It's not even a shrimp.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Sapnos
Didn’t Kirk fight him on the desert planet?
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fire Sapnos will be a fine meme.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
by Richard Wade on Nov 1, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
In adversity, look for the funny.
WR Bryan Walters released for LB Bront Bird
This is a move to help special teams, where Tolbert is not going to be helping tonight.
It's NEVER a shrimp on the barbie. It's not even a shrimp.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 10:32 AM PDT reply actions
what's the funny?
you quoted me, I must acknowledge and respond…
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 1, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
That was you?
Aaagh! Fire SuperDuperMan!!!
It's NEVER a shrimp on the barbie. It's not even a shrimp.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
didnt see bird on that field
oh wait. he did make a stupid penalty on special teams right
why don't you admit you love twilight
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 1, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I keep hearing the chargers are an elite team
I hear complaining that the Chiefs had an easy schedule last year. Did you know the chiefs were the only team to sweep the NFC west? Now im hearing the chiefs didn’t win but the chargers lost. Sounds like a bunch of raider fans
We're fans of the Chargers commenting on a post about what the Chargers did wrong
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
OMG! Twilight is a beautiful story about the love between a boy and a girl
That runs so deep that uh…dammit. I’m trying here. Never saw it, but I think it had something to do with sparkles or glitter or something, and maybe too much hair product.
But it’s BEAUTIFUL!
We Don't Hear The Hate
by TRSChief on Nov 1, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
did you know the chargers swept the NFC east?
no one is looking at previous performances.
Chargers lose key players and lose games by single digits.
Chiefs lose players and lose games by basketball-like figures.
wait until 16 games have been played to talk about the Chiefs being the better team.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
Bolts from the Blue
by Superduperboltman on Nov 1, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
i would have no problem saying the chiefs are better than the chargers
if that was true.
Chargers are a terrible team right now. a lot of things went wrong yesterday but still it was our game to win. The chiefs were as bad as the chargers yesterday. On second half they did absolutely nothing on the offensive side of the ball.
the fumble on the last play doesnt show the chiefs are better, it just shows the chargers have big problems
I agree that the chiefs and chargers are in no way "elite"
But to put one team over the other is silly. You can’t watch that game and say that there was clearly a better team on the field. kudos to you cleyton. to all san diego fans… good luck against the pack next week,
agreed brother
lets try to be optimistic here and hope our teams have the ability to fix the many issues we saw yesterday
Say Hi to Cartman.
It's NEVER a shrimp on the barbie. It's not even a shrimp.
by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
"Worst Day Ever" - Rivers
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Philip Rivers
and the terrible, no good, very bad day.
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by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No Phillip. still plenty of football left to play.
more bad days coming.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Hey don't feel bad
We had the luxury of pulling for Hat Cassel during our terrible losing streak earlier this year.
It was so bad, it went right past embarrassing and straight to helpless laughter at the time.
We Don't Hear The Hate
Depending watch team you cheer for Alberto Riveron's crew should be on this list....
For a Chargers list probably under “good” as they did everything they could to keep you in the game and as a Chiefs fan “ugly” as it might have been the worst display of officiating since the Hoculi debacle when you guys played Denver.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
which* not watch
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Nov 1, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd say that the refs were bad
but they gave calls to each team, really. The forward pass was the wrong call, but so was the offensive PI on Gates.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The PI was a bad call too, as was the personal foul on the hit on McClain(Weddle maybe?)
But the PI call doesn’t happen if they get the fumble review right. There was also the McCluster non-fumble earlier in the game where the Chiefs had the momentum and the ball at the 25. Also Brinkleys big catch(down at the one) and 2 point conversion should’ve been called incomplete(maybe Haleys fault for not challenging the first) etc, ad nauseum.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Nov 1, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the personal foul you're referring to was on Gregory
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by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks that's the one.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Nov 1, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Gregory seems to get one of those every game
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by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
what do you want him to do?
he hit the guy “Clean”. the rules have changed. the only way he gets away from those calls. go back to “tackling” instead of Hitting. if he wraps up the receiver, it’s a tackle and can’t be seen as hitting defenseless player.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
There was helmet-to-helmet contact
But looked entirely incidental, as there’s no way to account for the receiver tucking lower after the defensive back has already committed to the tackle.
Just crap luck and kind of a broken, but well-intentioned, rule. I thought it was a good clean hit, and was proud of McClain for holding on to the ball after taking a good shot like that.
We Don't Hear The Hate
I agree
Just informing the Chiefs fan that he always plays like that.
"The biggest thing..." - Norv Turner
by Cake or Death on Nov 1, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Better go rewatch it.
Both time he lost control going to the ground and on the pass down to the one the sideline view clearly shows a loose ball on the ground.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
At least the McCluster fumble ruling was understandable
according to the replay rules. The call was ruled a fumble on the field, and there was no clear evidence to show that McCluster still had possession when his butt hit the ground, ergo the call stands. We can imagine, believe, think, whatever, that he still had possession, but by rule, since that wasn’t on the replay, the referee couldn’t overturn the call.
the fumble earlier in the game
while i agree that it’s probably a fumble i can see where there would be doubt, you have to see clearly that he had control all the way to the ground, and the angles we had didn’t show whether or not the ball was already moving. Which is how i think the refs got to that decision, but they were horrible to both teams.
MIssing SD from PDX
The other offensive PI (on Crayton?) call was questionable too
at least in the sense that the ball was completely uncatchable.
We suffered through the Winter of Discontent last week
We are still owed.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
This week yes, my comment referred to last week.
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 1, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Penalties..
This team went to play the NYJ leading the league with the least amount of penalties. Well, they tallied a handful in NYJ and continued to do so again at KC. This team always finds a way to lose games they should win. It’s always been the Chargers MO.
The run D sucked when we really needed them to stop the run. McCluster came in, and it was easy to tell he was getting the ball and no one covered him. Chiefs played man D all night and our receivers couldn’t get seperation.
I wouldn’t put too much blame on VJ’s play on VJ. Rivers has been way off target, throwing him the ball.
The Chargers started off fast, but it’s still the same old Chargers. They will look to try and make another come back. This time, we have 2 teams in our division with a chance to win it. I say, even if we make it to the playoff’s. If we don’t win the SB, Norv should be fired.
We also should of ran the ball more.
Richard Goodman sucks as a return man, get rid of him, he also sucks as a receiver.
V. Brown should get a chance to play, fresh legs. Butler needs to stay in on 3rd down and Harris needs to be a starter.
We can’t sit here and complain about injuries. The Chiefs lost Charles, Berry and Moeaki and they have won 4 in a row.
This team makes up too many excuses on losses and no one wants to take the blame. MAN UP.e
We just need to regroup...
and Norv needs a new and better game plan. So far, his game plan sucks.
We have the all parts to get the job done...
Changing personel getting down on a player who’s failed and looking for his replacement will not change the mental culture of things in Charger world. Bottom line we have a coach and GM who don’t know how to groom mental toughness. AJ wanted his yes man in Norv who believes X’s & O’s will cure all.
All we have to do is look at the Bay area, both teams, especially in Frisco where you can clearly see how the change in coaching has changed the culture of mental toughness physically to literally on the field of play grooming that winning attitude.
Great as Norv is in X’s & O’s he’s not that kick ass guy and as long as AJ stays with the yes man choice BOLTS will continue to be grounded.
Bad Play Calling
The worst officiating i have ever seen. Both teams got shafted. A 5 yrd forward pass which somehow was a fumble? and 2 more fumble recoveries by the bolts were not fumbles. Gates’ shoulda had that touchdown. Face mask which didnt get called, roughing the passer which was a clean shoulder to chest hit, there were so many more.
The game is getting frustrating to watch….
The "5 yrd forward pass" was clearly a fumble. The others were pretty bad, though.
Bolts from the Blue // "Go for the throat, Norval." - Jim Rome
Bloody Elbow // "I think we're poking fun at Leland's 'boner.'" - Michael Fagan
Brinkley deserves more than an honorable mention
He stepped up in a big way at the end of the game and was crucial to us having a chance to win that game. Considering this was his first ever NFL regular season action (correct me if I’m wrong) makes it even more impressive. The guy looked fearless out there.
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Do you imagine a scenario where we could, say, sell Hudson to a Japanese team?
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