Despite years of trying, the Spanos family has been unable to get a new stadium in downtown San Diego. They have yet to completely give up the effort, and would like to get something on the ballot for November 2012. Spanos and AEG have also engaged in preliminary talks about selling a stake in the team and moving to L.A., according Sam Farmer of the L.A. Times, who maintains that Spanos is the most likely option to relocate. AEG's opening bid for a discounted stake in the team has been an early stumbling block, but Farmer and most others believe that AEG will be willing to negotiate.