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Should the San Diego Chargers Make a Trade?

The NFL trading deadline is this Tuesday and, with the San Diego Chargers in the middle of a relaxing bye week, this would be the perfect time for A.J. Smith to make a move. Smith has never shied away from making a move at the deadline if he thought his team needed it, with Keenan McCardell and Chris Chambers standing as examples to that.

Looking at the rest of the league, there's about 10 teams that could be classified as "sellers" this early in the season. For me, that list would be the Dolphins, Browns, Jaguars, Colts, Broncos, Eagles, Vikings, Panthers, Cardinals and Rams. The Panthers aren't selling because they like what they have and what they're building. The Cardinals and Rams are probably still in the race for the NFC West despite being 1-8 between them. The Chargers won't do inter-division trading with the Broncos, either, so now the list is down to about 6-to-8 good sellers.

Looking at the Chargers roster, there are thee spots in which they could use a boost: OLB, SS and TE. Let's look at each one separately and how they match up with what the sellers have.

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Tight End
This is a need for a few reasons. Obviously Antonio Gates is having a hard time staying healthy and might not be healthy all season. Randy McMichael has been good, but adding another starting caliber-TE would help depth there. Also, and perhaps more importantly, the Chargers red zone offense has been ineffective and the easiest way to give it an immediate shot in the arm would be with a big TE that can catch the ball.

Who's Available?

Let me preface this by giving my simplistic formula. I'm looking for guys that are healthy and do not have a lot of years/money left on their contract. Todd Heap would be great, but he's hurt and owed about $30 million dollars. San Diego wouldn't touch that deal with a 20 foot pole. Also, young guys are probably out because they'll require much higher draft picks. Got it? Good.

Anthony Fasano - Big receiver (6'4") with good hands and good blocking skills. $3.6 million owed to him in 2012, the last year of his contract.

Benjamin Watson - Great fit for San Diego's scheme, slowly losing time to Evan Moore. $2.8 million owed to him in 2012, the last year of his contract.

Visanthe Shiancoe - Struggling to put up any numbers with Donovan McNabb as his QB. Free agent in 2012. This would be a big-splash move. Questionable locker room guy and blocker.

 

Strong Safety
Bob Sanders was the starter, Bob Sanders is gone. Steve Gregory seems to help the defense create turnovers, but he's not the ideal starter. I'm not saying the Chargers will be shopping for a replacement but, if someone offers them a great alternative to Gregory, the team could be listening. So, with that in mind, I'll keep my candidates to really great options...of which there's only really one.

Who's Available?

Adrian Wilson - He fits the formula to an extent. He's an older guy on a rebuilding team. He's an excellent player. However, he's paid like an excellent player and has two years after this one left on his contract. If the Chargers were to trade for Wilson, it would lock down both Safety spots for at least 2.5 years....which is a lifetime for a San Diego Safety tandem. It's tempting, but if Smith pulls the trigger on this it changes the dynamic of the defense and keeps both Gregory and Darrell Stuckey on the bench most of the time.

 

Outside Linebacker
This one is a bit of a stretch, even more than Strong Safety. Any OLB picked up would be taking away snaps from Travis LaBoy, Larry English and Antwan Barnes. Again, I don't see the team wanting to do that unless they stumbled across a superstar with a lightweight contract on a team that wasn't asking for the world in return for him. Let's go shopping.....

Who's Available?

Cameron Wake - What do you know? A superstar with a lightweight contract! The Dolphins found Wake, a former Penn State Nittany Lion, playing Canadian football and let him loose on the NFL. Last year, as a full-time starter for the first time, he racked up 14 sacks. This year he has only 3, as teams are gameplanning around him. Having him opposite Shaun Phillips would make for a dominating pass-rush. He is due $480,000 in 2012, which is the last year of his contract. He'd probably cost the team an early pick (2nd or 3rd round?), meaning the Chargers would want to sign him to a long-term deal instead of risking throwing the pick away for nothing. Trading for Wake would be a sign that San Diego's front office has lost all hope in Larry English and I don't know that they're there yet.

 

So that's pretty much the market that San Diego is looking at. Make a big splash with Cameron Wake or Adrian Wilson, both of whom would probably be with the Chargers for a few years afterwards and cost a bit of money, or shoot for a lesser Tight End to fill the void left by Gates and maybe play "second TE" in 2012.

Shiancoe is kindof stuck in between these two groups, and him being around for a while and costing a lot of money would be dependent upon what the Vikings demand in return for him along with how he performed when he got here.

Poll
What should the Chargers do at the trading deadline?
Trade for a Tight End
173 votes
Trade for a Strong Safety
161 votes
Trade for an Outside Linebacker
228 votes
Trade for another position
40 votes
Don't make any trades
115 votes

717 votes | Poll has closed

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I hope they're at least looking hard at potential deals.

I would like it if they found a play-making tight end. I liked Fasano, but others have told me he’s not a good fit.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I just can't vote for TE

I’m still holding onto the hope that Gates will finally come back at 100%

6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.

That was fast.

by SD FTW on Oct 14, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

If he does it's even better

Norv has been waiting 2-3 years to open up the playbook with 3 TEs set.

by Lightning Hobo on Oct 14, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh...

Last year when we had the 3 TEs healthy at the same time, they weren’t good enough

by Lightning Hobo on Oct 14, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sperry could be a first ballot HOFer

in theory as well. And the sun could have already exploded. In other news man stands on chair and proclaims the sun will rise in the morning

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by Foilhat on Oct 14, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get a TE

I am expecting very very little from Gates for 2011 at this point.

by Orz on Oct 14, 2011 10:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't see the TE thing happening...

Let me tell you why. If how you say they’re probably not willing to brush off English aka Buster then I’m sure they’re comfortable with what we have….Gates with the hope of playing through AND having a productive season,McMichael and Sperry.

MY hope would be either SS or OLB..and I’d prefer the latter. Given that the guy is relatively cheap and even if it would cost a 2nd rounder which I might add that Mouton was our 2nd rounder this year and has not contributed anything at all this year I’m of the mindset AJ wouldn’t mind taking a risk on a proven guy and making our front 7 look more intimidating.

That being said this is all speculative because I obviously don’t know AJ and can’t convince him to do anything I’d want. It’s fun paying GM though makes your fandom a little more interesting.

by Gorditoe1 on Oct 14, 2011 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I get this feeling

that they’re trying to at least use Gates as a decoy this year. Notice how coy they’ve been about his status for the Jets game? I think they want teams to have to scheme around the possibility that he’ll be there.

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by Cake or Death on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got a feeeeeeling wooooohoooooo

that tonight’s gonna be a good good niiiiiight…look dude personally I agree with a lot of conspiracy theorists that say Gates is in fact done….done for the year and maybe even career…..I hope I’m wrong dude I really do.

by Gorditoe1 on Oct 14, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

You musta not gotten the memo...

I my good man am what is referred to as a non bannable member…look it up.

by Gorditoe1 on Oct 14, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is true.

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by Richard Wade on Oct 14, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I thought the rumour of you having pics

of the semi-hipster in Raiders gear celebrating the Giants WS victory, was completely baseless. Oh well, guess I still got lots to learn.

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by Aussie fan on Oct 14, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see any trade happening.

I just haven’t heard much to support it…

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by Superduperboltman on Oct 14, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Did you expect the Chambers trade?

Not saying I disagree, but AJ never says much.

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by Cake or Death on Oct 14, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Truth be told, I'd be fine with anything

Nice research John, great find. All of them seem like good options on paper. I hope they can fix our woes without having to add anyone, but if they get someone from this list, Im glad.

by Lightning Hobo on Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Voted for OLB

because it helps the safety position as well. But I seriously doubt that they’ll do it.

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by Cake or Death on Oct 14, 2011 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Trading for Wake would absolutely take this defense to another level

It instantly adds pass-rush and takes some pressure off of the D-Line that is hurting without Castillo.

Unfortunately, it would cost quite a bit in terms of compensation (most likely a 2nd) and I don’t think The team is ready to do that and give up on English…although IMO it would be more like giving up on LaBoy and still letting English and Barnes get reps. Everyone on the team has always said how they like to have 3 solid pass rushers that they can rotate, and right now we have 1.5 (Barnes can’t really play full time and is only situational). A guy like Wake is an instant starter, the team could get rid of LaBoy. It would be a bargain to get a guy like Wake for a 3rd…

by jkvandal on Oct 14, 2011 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

That being said

It makes too much sense and probably won’t happen since this team believes in building through the draft

by jkvandal on Oct 14, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ive never hear anyone say "it makes too much sense" using it as a negative

We as Charger fans have an underlying defeatist attitude complex…WTF is going on.

by Gorditoe1 on Oct 14, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well my thinking behind that is...

If it makes sense to us as fans and it hasn’t happened, there is probably something that we don’t know about that is stopping it from happening…Plus I have been guilty of a defeatist attitude at times. I guess my point is, I really really like the idea do trading to get Wake for a 2nd, and would jump at the opportunity but since that hasn’t happened, that offer probably it’s out there…that’s why it makes too much sense to me.

Frankly, I would be surprised if Wake were on the trading block, as pass rushers are so hard to find that teams aren’t exactly eager to get rid of them. Although, it appears Wake isn’t having the same success as last season, so maybe he could come cheaper than expected.

by jkvandal on Oct 14, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, don’t their head coach and GM need to win or they will get canned? Why would they give up an impact player for future help…

I don’t see the Dolphins as a trade partner.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Oct 14, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rec for tuna joke

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by Cake or Death on Oct 14, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah

With him that cheap, why would they?

by TioTheo on Oct 14, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

They'd be stupid to trade him.

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by Richard Wade on Oct 14, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

building through the draft

Cameron for a 2nd rd pick…is like a draft steal

by john1 on Oct 14, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as that "$$$=new stadium" includes Spanos putting in more money

If he would put in the same amount as other owners have in the past we could be planning a new stadium, not just talking about it.

by glamisdave on Oct 14, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The OLB spot is the biggest need.

Shaun Phillips can only do so much by himself. The other three that play (LaBoy, Barnes and English) are all really backups that should only come in for a few plays to give the starter a rest. A pass rush cures problems in coverage (Safeties!!!!), causes turnovers, and gets the D off the field on third down.

I really like the Fasano idea. but having another TE causes a roster issue. I know they are high on Sperry in the future. A proven TE can only help the red zone offense though.

by glamisdave on Oct 14, 2011 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I just don't understand

how anyone would vote for a strong safety…Chargers have stuckey, Gilchrist, and Jammer…Butler had what? 3 weeks to learn how to fit himself into becoming a chargers starting LB? Jammer can make the move to Safety, we don’t know how good Stuckey is…I just know he is a special team star so far, Gilchrist is a play maker and if coaches really want him to get up to speed they definitely can get what they want in his head, he’s a smart player (33 votes for SS geez). I voted for TE, but if there’s any chance Cameron Wake can be a Charger, I would pick that over anything else right now.

by john1 on Oct 14, 2011 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I should've mention that

Wilson would push the Jammer move back two years, which I don’t think anyone wants to do.

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by John Gennaro on Oct 14, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

do you think Wilson is also past his prime?

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by Superduperboltman on Oct 14, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I was going to say something about “They might not want to be paying him that much when he’s 34”, but stopped because I haven’t seen a ton of him.

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by John Gennaro on Oct 14, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hi, Vikes fan here

I gotta say, a trade for Shiancoe would make sense for you guys. The Vikes drafted Kyle Rudolph, and he looks to be the pass catching TE of the future. Minnesota could replace Shiancoe with a guy from the practice squad or one of the guys they cut just as training camp ended. It would be a downgrade, but for a mid round draft pick I’d do that deal.

And I’m not sure where you got the ‘questionable locker room guy’ meme from, but it’s not true. He’s a solid guy, and would be an asset if Gates is done for the year. But his blocking ability isn’t the best, I’ll grant you that.

What’s that? You’ll part with Philip Rivers? Okay, you’ve got a deal. Heck, we’ll throw in McNabb just to even it out. :)

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by Ted Glover on Oct 14, 2011 12:57 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

how about Robison?

He looks good.

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by Mad_Villain on Oct 14, 2011 1:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'd be mad if they traded him

The Vikes let Ray Edwards walk via free agency, and Robison has really stepped up. There would be a significant drop off if he left, plus they just re-signed him, so I think he’ll be a Viking for awhile.

Seriously, though, you can have McNabb. if you don’t want to give us Rivers, fine. We’ll drop our demands down to three chin straps and a Rolf Bernischke kicking shoe.

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by Ted Glover on Oct 14, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

switch to the 4-3

Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
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by Superduperboltman on Oct 14, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Anthony Fasano makes the most sense IMO

Shiancoe is in the last year of his deal, so the price for him would have to be cheap. I am thinking a conditional 5/6/7 rounder. Fasano though is signed though 2012 fairly cheaply that and his skill set would make him more valuable. He is more of a complete player, where Shiancoe is better but a pass catching option that would likely be gone after 2011. Martellus Bennett should have been mentioned and imo would be a better option than Shiancoe. Comes from a very similar system and can block a little bit and has upside if extended

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by Foilhat on Oct 14, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Bennett would be dope

I’ve always liked him, would the Cowboys wanna trade him though?

For me a safety should be a priority, i’d be interested in Wilson.

Wake wouold be an amazinf pick up, but maybe a pipe dream as i can’t see him getting traded.

by LT_21 on Oct 14, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve always liked him, would the Cowboys wanna trade him though?

This is why I didn’t include him. He’s 24 and very cheap this year. They want to keep him around too.

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by John Gennaro on Oct 14, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cameron Wake..

I would make this deal if possible. I don’t see the Dolphins letting him go as he is the best pass rusher they have on the team. Wake will bring the pressure that we are so lacking.

SS: Adran Wilson will be a huge pick up for the Chargers. I would love for this move to happen. I highly doubt the Cards are willing to let him go. He’s the best player on that poor defense. Make the deal AJ, Wilson is legit.

TE: Shiancoe is a possibility. Minn has an up and coming star in Kyle Rudolph. Rivers can make some big plays with Shiancoe on the field. If Gates comes back healthy, we would have one of the best TE tandems in the league. Sort of like the Patriots.

AJ is unlikely going to make these trades, its not really in his nature. He’ll go after some low profile players as usual. But to acquire just one of these players will improve the team.

by BOLTUREYE on Oct 14, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Laboy..

Needs to be on the bench. I don’t like him as a starter, he is just not that good. I really wished the Chargers never signed him. I hate that he starts over Barnes and English.

by BOLTUREYE on Oct 14, 2011 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

The biggest problem with de Wake trade

is that the Dolphs will never agree even for a 2nd rounder and maybe even foi a 1st because you usually try to get pass rushers in top picks, and they got thtat one for free and will not let him go.

But if they are stupid we would be VERY happy to take Wake it would be so awesome

Nice post BTW!

by Scard on Oct 14, 2011 6:45 PM PDT reply actions  

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