Winning the turnover battle
John's post on the need for a defensive playmaker ties in really nicely with a post I have been working on and now seems to be the time to post it.
I am a firm believer that winning in the NFL, particularly now with the strength of the passing game, lies in winning the possession game. Now the key here is that I don't mean winning the "time of possession" but that you get your offense more opportunities with the ball than your opponent's offense. This is particularly true when your team has once of those much sought after "franchise QBs".
The top 4 teams in the regular season in the turnover battle were as follows:
- New England Patriots +28
- Pittsburgh Steelers +17
- Atlanta Falcons +14
- Green Bay Packers +10
The Chargers? 24th with a -6 turnover differential.
Do I really need to convince you that getting the ball to Philip Rivers more often will result in more success?
After the jump I will dive into the keys for the Chargers to improving their success in winning the turnover battle.
Offense
Ball Security
First and foremost, we need to drill ball security into the heads of our offensive backfield. I can think of a time this past season when every running back had a lapse in judgement and/or ball security that resulted in a turnover. Ryan Mathews and Michael Tolbert had their fumbles (each had 5 fumbles, and 3 lost fumbles), and Hester had his lapses (e.g. the lateral that he assumed [potentially correctly] to be a forward pass), and all resulted in turnovers. Removing those 7 turnovers alone, that gives the 2010 Chargers a positive turnover differential. This should be the easiest aspect to correct. I could also mention Sproles here, but there is no guarantee that he is back next season so I won't.
Deep Passes
The trick with the Chargers offense is that Rivers and Norv like to take chances in the passing game. Norv likes to dial up a deep pass to take advantage of his QB being one of the best long–ball QBs in the game. This is a risk that I feel Norv will continue to take, and as such there will continue to be sacks and turnovers in the passing game due to this aggressive playcalling on offense. Frankly, I'm okay with that because defenses will have to focus on the threat of a deep passing game, and that will open up the short passing game and the running game. The biggest key to decreasing these turnovers is to ensure that the Bolts are not always trying to come from behind for a win, allowing the passing game to be less predictable.
Defense
Rushing the Passer
This is the biggest key to creating turnovers in the NFL. Lots of things happen when you pressure the QB: incompletions, INT's, sacks, and fumbles. Any one of these things either results directly in a turnover or puts the offense into a situation where the defense can predict what the offense will do, further increasing defensive success and likelihood of a turnover.
The Chargers were fairly successful in rushing the passer this past season, but the pressure did not result in as many turnovers as you would expect. I attribute this to the fact that our best pass rusher was coming from the QB's non-blind side. This allowed the QB to tuck the ball and take the sack rather than unknowingly putting the ball up for grabs with a tipped pass or strip-sack which will commonly be created by the weak side pass rush. The Chargers need a blind-side pass rusher who can consistently get to the QB to complement the force that Shaun Phillips has become on the strong side. It would be nice to be able to get pressure without having to blitz, but however you slice it, we need more consistent pressure on the opposing QB.
Disguising coverages/blitzes
The Chargers have done this. Ron Rivera cooked up a masterful gameplan every time he faced Peyton Manning, yet would revert to a fairly predictable and vanilla gameplan against every quarterback not wearing #18. I never understood this and hope that this changes with Manusky. All QB's in the NFL know how to read some sort of coverages otherwise they would not be playing the game; the key is to keep the QB guessing on what coverage you are running so that he has to make his reads AFTER the snap, allowing more time for your pass rush to get to him. When a QB like Jason Campbell can pick apart your defense, you are playing too predictably.
Playmakers
I won't dive into this too much since John covered it pretty well in his post that is linked above, but defensive playmakers make the whole defense better. I will touch on a few key positions and their impact on other areas of the defense:
- Dominant NT's make the DE's better. I think the Chargers have a dominant NT in Antonio Garay as long as he can stay healthy, and he makes everyone around him better.
- Disruptive DE's free up OLB's to pressure the QB. I like Luis Castillo and think he looks a lot better when Garay is in the game next to him, but the team could use another quality DE opposite him that can more consistently occupy blockers and running lanes.
- LB's pressuring the QB create more off-target passes to be picked off by the DB's. Phillips was about the only guy out there able to get to the QB semi-consistently, and most of those were on missed blocks by a RB or TE (no idea why teams were allowing that matchup so often). However he still isn't at the quality of a "game-changer" who can come up with that defensive play that you need to swing the momentum of a game. The team definitely hasn't found an answer on the blind-side either. I'm fairly content with the ILB corps as I think it will be good enough (including Butler's return which is essentially a free draft pick at ILB this season) if we can improve the OLB corps. Better OLB's will free up the ILB's to run around and make plays as they need to.
- DB's creating turnovers. There were far too many dropped INT's this season in our secondary. The days of guys becoming DB's because they can't catch the ball well enough to be a WR are over. I'm okay with CB's going for a pass-breakup over a pick when matched up in single coverage, but you can't have your safeties dropping balls that hit them right in the hands (I'm looking at you, Weddle). Weddle definitely has the smarts and awareness to put himself in the right places at the right times, but I've been on record for a long time now saying that he is not a good fit at the FS position. I think he is much better suited to playing more of a rover/SS type of role like a Jim Leonard type of player who is more flexible to run around and make plays in the running game or blitz off the edge. The FS position needs to have a player with natural ball skills, athleticism, and awareness to allow him to read the QB, break on the ball and come up with a turnover. I'm hoping with Ron Rivera's departure that Weddle will slide more into a SS type of role and the team finds a player to plug in at the FS position.
Special Teams
This dead horse has been beat up enough. Blocked punts/kicks are essentially turnovers that are costly in that they entirely change up the field position game. Also, we need a returner with better ball security than Sproles exhibited this past season.
This is my case for building the Chargers into a Championship caliber team. I think we can change around a couple pieces here and there and can swing the turnover differential wildly in our favor, giving the 2011 Bolts a much better chance at finally winning that ring. So what do you all think?
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Excellent write up
Let be honest the NFC-AFC west schedule probably fatten up the chargers defense stats, not many elite QB’s, which means passing yards. Being honest there is no way this defense as it stands right now would be number 1 with the schedule they will face in 2011. I’m not the DVOAR expert others are, but from the eyeball test, this team is still behind the Steelers, Ravens, Jets, Packers, Bears and Giants in my book.
The schedule returns to a normal to a hard level, and defense is still in need of playmakers, there are options and standing pat and resigning most of the guys is the most probable, but i doubt is the correct choice.
We learned that horrible special teams, a negative turnover margin, and the inability to score on key drives in close games, is more than enough to get a premier offense and defense of the playoffs.
FO agrees with you. Were you agreeing with them, or was it luck you named the 6 defenses they place above ours?
this team is still behind the Steelers, Ravens, Jets, Packers, Bears and Giants in my book.
#feelinacertaintypeofway
I think they are good to very good defense, not elite
I think the turnovers and long returns put them on short fields, and in weird way reduced their yards allowed stats, I believe yards allowed is the wrong way to judge a defense, points allowed is a much more important stat. I think most of would agree there are better defenses than the chargers, and forced turnovers has to be the most important point of emphasis in 2011.
I think th schedule gets quite harder and the status quo of the defense will not keep at its current ranking, I agree with most everyone that they need a premier playmaker on defense be it a free agent signing or trading up in the first round has to be seriously considered.
DVOA isn't about yards allowed
which is why the Chargers’ No.1 defense (yards allowed) is 7th in DVOA. Still, the Chargers’ defense is very good. Addition of one guy who is a potential game changer puts them over the top, in my opinion. Right now, there isn’t that one guy the opposition absolutely must game plan for. Get a guy the offenses must keep track of, and potentially all hell breaks loose at one of the other positions, at least once or twice a game; not to mention plays the game-changer makes himself. From those plays come the turnovers, which is what’s needed.
Are Marlon McCree and Antonio Cromartie the same person? Just askin'.
Winning the War
I think your post should be Winning the War, instead of just winning the Turnover Battle. You nailed it!
The biggest key to decreasing these turnovers is to ensure that the Bolts are not always trying to come from behind for a win, allowing the passing game to be less predictable.
This really says everything. We’ve gotten so used to Rivers leading us back in recent years that this season was sort of surreal. We need to find a way to not rely on the dramatic comeback anymore.
Yeah, it's great to have a QB that can lead a comeback in the 4th quarter, and even better if he doesn't have to every other week.
The biggest criticism against Philip in 2010
Has to be his inability to score in 4 tie or win drives (at KC, at Seattle, at Oakland, vs New England), fair or unfair, franchise QB’s are expected to score in all/most of those situations.
Absolutely
That’s why I never thought he was a viable MVP candidate. He had gaudy numbers and did some incredible things, but overall I don’t think this was his best year.
by Cake or Death on Jan 19, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
Very true
Although how many of those times would he have led a game winning drive if our defense could have made a stop? He had several opportunities to win a game in the final minutes, but the defense also let him down a couple times by not coming up with a stop.
Additionally, we all comment on how well he did with the WR’s he had available, but I think the final minutes of a game is when he really couldn’t overcome the lack of experienced depth at the WR position when he needed to make that comeback.
I thought the defense was unclutch on 2 ocassions
The Raiders in Oakland, had 2 85+ yard drives plus 10 play drives in the forth quarter, the key play to stop those drives never happened. In St Louis the Rams had 3rd & 6, with a little over 2 minutes remaining couldn’t get that stop.
I’m not saying that Philip isn’t a great QB, but he has to be better on those decisive drives, to win a championship it wont be only blowouts, he has to come up clutch for this team to win titles.
I think
at the end of the raider game the defense made jason cambell look all pro and for whatever reason at the end of the rams game decided that they didn’t want to stop the run anymore. I agree with everyone that rivers did fall short a couple times this season but you can never say a loss is for this reason or that, it’s a collective effort from all the players and coaches
Great Post, but I have to correct something for you...
Weddle is a great fit at Free Safety. He is rated in the top 5 for all 64 NFL safeties by FO and PFF. He rarely gets beat in coverage, rarely fails to make a tackle in run support, and reads offenses and makes great coverage calls for the team. And you probably haven’t noticed, but Weddle played rover a LOT this year. He and Gregory would switch between SS and FS many times, And same with Paul Oliver. There were many occasions when Weddle would line up between Jammer and Burnett in the box, and play according to the offensive formation, as you’d see him blitz, drop deep, play under, cover the Tight End or releasing RB, or play ILB while Coop and/or Burnett blitzed or played a different assignment. Weddle played Strong safety and rover many times this year, and Ron Rivera used him that way because he was very effective, and he is easily the most versatile defender on the team.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Jan 20, 2011 6:48 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Rec.
Weddle is just shy of being a great player. That’s kind of symptomatic of this year’s defense. There are good guys at every position (some of them very good), but the level of the talent is very even, which keeps the team from being great.
In fact, if the team had a top ROLB, that would probably be enough to force a few turnovers and make the defense great. The problem is that our existing ROLB rotation is not half bad and we’ve spent two first-rounders trying to make it work, so it’s hard to get too excited about taking a gamble on yet another first-round draft pick for what may or may not be an upgrade over the (quite serviceable) Applewhite/Barnes/English rotation.
An autumn Sunday,
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 20, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well...
in my hours of film study, I noticed that English was coming on stronger towards the last 3 games of the year. Barnes is a pure pass rusher, he’s just average in run support, just under Applewhite, and he’s not as good as applewhite in coverage, which is why Applewhite was the starter…
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Jan 20, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
I think you kind of proved my point when you said Weddle played at SS and rover this past season and was very successful
My main point was not that Weddle is not a good FS, he has played well there. My point is that Weddle’s versatility would be better utilized when the team has a better option at FS allowing Weddle to play anywhere on the field. In other words, Weddle is great playing up by the line on running downs and on the occasional blitz, but it leaves our defense vulnerable because I don’t think we have a natural FS on the roster. If we can land a guy that is a more natural FS and a ballhawk, then Weddle gets freed up to play anywhere on the field and he can still call coverages.
I guess we’re getting hung up on the labels of SS and FS here, but I’m of the opinion that we need a guy who can more reliably play deep center field to allow Weddle to be the rover/wildcard on the defense. I would think that a guy that can play deep-center field needs have have great range and speed as well as great ball skills so that an offense will think twice before throwing up a ball deep. There were far too many occasions this past season that our safeties were exposed when a QB went over the top and the safety didn’t have the speed or range to get there in time to break it up.
FS and SS aren't much different.
Many teams have two very similar players at the spots. The SS and FS can be the same player, depending on the offensive formation, receiver alignment, etc… A Safety just has to have the ability to defend the pass, and make tackles. Basically, they are super athletic Inside linebackers. you mentioned in your article that Weddle "isn’t a good fit at the FS " position. His first two years, he was bottom 5awful (overall, according to PFF) playing at the SS spot, and since moving to FS, he’s been top 5. If Weddle had a twin, that would be awesome. Eric Weddle the Free Safety, and Erik Weddle the Strong Safety. Epic.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Jan 20, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Do you think he was in the bottom 5 because he was in the wrong spot or because it was his first 2 years in the league?
All my point is here is that Weddle would be even better the Chargers upgraded the other player at safety next to him…call him a FS or SS, either way get another playmaker next to him and Weddle will look even better and be freed up to make more plays all over the field.
it was just reference.
he was bottom 5 because he was a rookie, and because he was under Teddy’s defense.
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Jan 21, 2011 6:35 AM PST up reply actions
and I don't think you can dispute the fact that Weddle can improve his hands a bit
the only think keeping Weddle from becoming an elite safety in the game is his inability to be opportunistic when the ball hits him right in the hands. I think if he works on that more then the we will start to see a lot more plays like we did in the Indy game
In college
his hands seemed very good. Not sure just what has happened of late but in this area he has regressed.
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by Buck Melanoma on Jan 20, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
In college,
he shut down players that are now pro bowl receivers. Weddle is awesome
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Jan 20, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody here is saying that Weddle sucks
We are merely saying that there are areas he can improve…don you disagree?
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He needs to make the picks when he gets the chance. That’s about it though…
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Jan 21, 2011 6:38 AM PST up reply actions
We get it Mr. Weddle
You think your son is the greatest, most fathers feel the same way about their children.
by JeromeB on Jan 21, 2011 7:11 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Early on in his career
my perception of him was of having decent/good hands for a safety. Remember that one handed/forearm INT he made against Peyton in the playoffs while being blocked by an o lineman? Admittedly, it’s fairly likely that one play is the only one I use in remembering how he played that year.
#feelinacertaintypeofway
absolutely
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
by Superduperboltman on Jan 20, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions

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