Ask Arrowhead Pride: Monday Night Football Edition
by tomahawk44 on Sep 7, 2010 6:12 AM PDT
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PrintHey guys! Football is less than a week away for our two teams!
This is an exciting game for us Chiefs fans because its the first Monday Night game we have had in forever and we are showing off our new stadium AND its against our rivals... You! The Chargers!
I came overe here to answer any questions you may have going into this game about the Kansas City Chiefs. While we are at it tell me what you expect from the Chargers and what you are looking for in them on Monday!
Cant wait until Monday!
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Probably a slot receiver to start out with, but might make his way to the #2 spot because he’s a better deep threat than Naanee.
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UMMMM
Just assuming here. I think he will be used as a special teams assest and seldom see time on the field ALA Osgood.
According to Norv
The plan is for him to become the #2 WR. So that assumption seems a little off base.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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Norv snorv
Naane is a beast and should be our number 2 let buster davis and crayton fight for #3
Futhermore
I dont think my assumption is off base after all that was his role in Dallas. Just saying. Norv can say what he wants but in the end he may just be a special teams guy.
Norv can say what he wants
Since he is coach it usually holds some weight.
He’s can also decide who gets to play where and when,
so if he suggests that Crayton will be the #2, I think he’s gonna start as the #2.
by riversformvp on Sep 7, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
He played that role in Dallas
because Dallas was deeper and more talented than San Diego at the WR position.
And because they overpaid Roy Williams and aren’t willing to admit that by cutting into his playing time.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
You are correct
Most NFL G.M.s are slow to admit there mistakes.
I am happy to have Crayton here, I think Dallas is still all right at WR with Austin, Bryant, the overpaid Williams and Hurd.
They’re certainly not hurting for talent there.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
How do we determine a deeper and more "talented" WR core
I mean really I am just curious? when I look at it simply I just see last year we averaged 271 yrds in recieving last year they averages 266… so I look at that and say hmm we seem to have pretty good WR and a better QB to bat. I would say of course the loss of jackson hurts but to say that we are in such dire straights and need to pick dez bryant in the 1st round is a stretch. Once again I will say I think Crayton is going to be excellent on special teams and will be a good player
Ugh. Fuzzy stats.
Receiving yards mean very, very little.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 8, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Since your curious
What I do is look at the WRs on one team and compare them to the WRs on the other. The team with the better group of WRs has the deeper and more talented group.
In Dallas Crayton battled for time with:
Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, Roy Williams and Sam Hurd.
Here he battles for time with:
Floyd, Legs, Buster and practice squad players.
I think most serious NFL fans would select the Cowboys group of WRs as the better group. Sorry if you do not agree.
I think Crayton helps our team and will see plenty of time on the field this season, and I am happy to have him.
Okay me again and just so I get this right since I am not a "serious nfl fan"
comparing WR and TE numbers by teams last year
Chargers
Vincent jackson 68rec 1167yards 9 tds
Floyd 45 rec 776 yards 1 td
naane 24 242yards 2 tds
gates 79 rec 2257 yards 8 tds
20 tds
Dallas
Austin 81rec 1320 yards 11 tds
CRAYTON 37rec 622 yards 5 tds
Roy Williams 38rec 569 yards 7tds
Witten 94rec 1030 yards 2 tds
24 tds
so when we say a serious NFL fan I am not sure what your talking about our talent at WR and TE were pretty equal last year I would even say that MILES AUSTIN having an insane yr will most likely never happen again.. sorry he is no Randy Moss or TO (talking early 2000’s) Furthermore from the looks of things we take Crayton there number 3 wr and lose Jackson who do they pick up DEZ BRYANT okay dude whatever. Before you throw insults around like non serious nfl fans look at the stats and most importantly who throws the ball to him. Also, one last thing if rec. yards mean very little then about a wr then what does… how good they look? how tall they are? if they are black or white? I think I would go with a good judge of a WR is their rec. yards, YAC and TDS other than that its all whatever.
Not trying to insult you
Just saying I think most people would think that Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, Roy Williams and Hurd are better than Floyd, Legs, CBD and practice squad guys. Ask some non Chargers fans and see what they think. If we don’t agree so be it. I could be wrong.
VJ not being on the team did lower the level of talent at the WR position this year (the team will be fine, but it did).
If you want to go by basic stats, which don’t tell the whole story, Floyd, Legs and CBD combined had fewer yards and receptions than Austin did by himselp last season. Your throwing in VJs numbers and he is not here and Bryant is a rookie so he did not have NFL stats last season.
I am a big Charger fan but I try not to let that cloud my opinion of the players or the team. Again I could be wrong it has happened before.
well I would say this
appreciate the apology… but we as truly as fans of the game cant consider ourselves above saying who is talented more than one player to the next… I mean look at scouts they get it wrong all the time Floyd was undrafted from Wyoming no one saw real talent in this guy..but yet this year he is a number 1 starting WR in the nfl…. I simply say this with Jackson SD has the edge… without him slightly not. But to say Dallas outclasses our WR and is so much deeper… I just can’t buy that. I too try not to let me opinion be clouded but it is hard being a charger fan for now 27 yrs tends to cloud things….but lets not sell these current WR short who would have thought a kid having played no football in college would be one of the best “talented” TE to ever play the game…
I wish to GOD that Gates put up those numbers
he would have broke every rec yrd record out there, but he definatley didnt put up 2257 yds, that would have been like 28.5 yds per catch average,lol Sadly he only put up 1157, but still an incredible year with his average number of tds
Mark Souza Jr.
Yeah, well, that's like typing teh for the
Everybody knows what you mean.
But if any TE could put up 2257 yards in 16 games….
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 11, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Norv will give him a chance.
I think that Crayton, Naanee and Davis will all get a lot of action.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Without a doubt.
Cassel has his faults… but Croyle just hasn’t shown us anything. 0 wins as a starter, and (not surprisingly) he hasn’t looked very good while doing it. the guy has a hell of an arm, but has zero touch, and tends to make bad decisions. Add to that that the guy is injury prone. I know that seems a little harsh, but it’s reality. I’ve never seen a football player spend so much time on the bench because of injury. Counting his time in high school and at ‘Bama, he’s blown his knee out at keast 3 times. In 2008 he got injured the starting week against the Pats, and then blew his MCL in his first game back that year against the Titans. His injury problem is so bad that I, a Chiefs fan, accurately predicted that Albert Haynesworth was going to end his season. This preseason he strained his elbow while throwing an interception in week 1, and missed 2 weeks.
Like I said, Cassel has his faults, but he’s tough. He’s taken almost 100 sacks over the last 2 years and is still walking around, speaking in complete sentences. Cassel without a doubt gives KC the best chance to win. Take that any way you want.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
IMO yes
but ask that question on AP it will be very divided.. The problem with Croyle is that he can not stay healthy to prove himself. He has already been hurt twice this offseason
Chiefs Will
As they say..
the best ability that a player can have is availability. And that’s what keeps Cassel miles ahead of Croyle. Croyle actually looks like a starting QB on the field. The last game he played in was the season opener last year and his 116 passer rating was better than Cassel did all year with the exception of one game in which he passed for 90 yards.
I wouldnt quite say Croyle looked like a starting QB
stats only say so much… One of those TDs was from a long interception return by DJ. Croyle didnt even know when to snap the "fu**ing ball! :)
Chiefs Will
Has there been any discussion about the roster, especially on the offensive side of the ball, not matching the philosophy of the coaches?
For instance, Haley and Weis are known for throwing a lot and almost ignoring the run…..yet the roster seems set up to run the ball a lot.
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That's kind of a misconception with Haley and Weis.
Weis was around when Tom Brady first got started and they basically had to hide him with a good defense, a solid running game, and short passes. He designed an offensive gameplan centered around not making mistakes the first couple of years.
And Haley is from the Parcell’s coaching tree and so he’s willing to adapt to whatever advantage his team has over the other one. You can tell that he’d rather have a more vertical passing game to open things up underneath, but he’s not complaining about the weapons that he’s got right now because he knows how dire things were last year.
I don't think this is a cause for concern.
You dance with the one that brung you, you know? This team has a very clear set of offensive capabilities: RBs who can make their own action, and who can catch short passes from a game manager QB behind an inferior OL. I don’t think their experience with the (very different) Pats necessarily means they’ll be calling an aerial assault that they just can’t pull off (or even attempt, really).
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I DO think
their offense is well-geared to handle the San Diego D. Explosive RBs, no reliance on deep action. I don’t know that it’s enough, but this game could be a wake-up call.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope we can atleast make it a game this season :)
I hated getting blown out twice last season!
Chiefs Will
I’m picking the Chiefs to win on Monday.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
dang... may I ask why?
I hope KC can win but I dont see it happening… Ill be there though so it will make my night if we do
Chiefs Will
The Chiefs' pass rush will be a LOT better, and their run offense is good.
The Chiefs have WRs who can make YAC.
The Chiefs have now had two years in the 3-4, and will be improved at defending the run. I still think Ryan Mathews will gash the snot out of them, but maybe not as badly as he would have last year.
I can’t pick KC to win, but I see why the spread is only 5.5.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
If you would like to watch our last pre-season game to scout us, here's a link.
It’s safe but if you like my Username is Caveman and the password is chiefs.
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Lots of old game's to watch on there.
I think you’ll see a vast improvement in our run defense and over all play on “D”. J.Arenas our KR/PR could take one to the house at any time, and D.McCluster is going to be a weapon for us at WR or where he takes the field, check the games out.
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It’s because Richard is a contrarian and loves pissing me off.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 7, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Psh. See below.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
Kansas City is a tough place to play. Kansas City’s strength’s play into what I expect will be San Diego’s weaknesses. San Diego has developed a habit of starting slow. Kansas City looks like they might be a lot better this year.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
We're hoping.
But once you unleash the Fresno Express on the middle of our defense over and over and over again, it may be a different story.
You’re built to pass BUT I suspect that defending the pass (and exotic blitzes…or both…) will be the strength of KC’s defense.
Don’t tell anyone on AP I said this, but if Derrick Johnson cures his allergy to fundamental linebacker play, everything I said in the first part of this comment is wrong. But I have my doubts there too.
Hoping for an AWESOME game…
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-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 11, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Rich
gutsty but on papaer cassel has to play Brady like for KC to win it will be close like 3 pts i say SD 24-21 but if KC wins they couild win 9-10 games
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It should be a much more interesting game than the 2 blow outs you put on us last year.
Arrowhead will, for at least one night, return to it’s legendary status. It’s sold out. It’s going to be loud, hostile, and the defense will get some help from the crowd.
KC is a team that is going to be a ball control style of offense, and we’re going to ask our defense to keep us in games. Unless you guys come out and put a couple of TDs up on us right away, it’s going to be a close game. Fortunately for us, it looks like the defense is much improved. Romeo Crennel appears to be exactly what we expected. in a mastermind DC that gets the most from what he has on hand. Our LBs have looked good in the preseason… and Eric Berry looks ready to take the spotlight. He led the team in tackles in the preseason… and he’s making tackles before players are getting first downs. His closing speed is uncanny, and his knack for always being around the ball tells his story. He’s what we expected… and he’s going to be the center piece of this defense for a long, long time. I don’t think you guys will like him much. lol.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Pioli is designing a team to stop the Chargers
It’s pretty obvious when you look at the moves that they’ve made. They’ve made huge improvements to their secondary, especially the nickelback spot. They’ve tried to limit the damage of the deep ball with one of the most athletic safeties available, who can also slide in and defend Gates man-to-man in a pinch. They’ve put a lot of focus on the running game, and short passes in order to keep SD’s offense off the field as much as possible.
It’s an old strategy, but an effective one. Win your division, get to the playoffs. The best place to start is by beating the top team in the division. I still think they’re a year or two from really putting it all together and being effective against the Chargers but things will be more interesting this year at least.
by JayrodT on Sep 7, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec.
This is what has this Chargers fan concerned.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric Berry will not be able to defend Gates man to man.
I’m sorry but you’re talking about a future HOF TE and a rookie. Berry was my favorite player in this draft but if this was 5 years ago and Chargers fans were talking about how Berry was going to man up on Tony G you’d be saying the same thing. I expect Gates to give him a few ‘welcome to the NFL rook’ moments on MNF. After that it will probably be one of the key matchups to watch for the next 3-4 years.
by Natrone Bomb on Sep 7, 2010 2:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You never know. Berry is an exceptional athlete.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
No, we don't know. But we know which way to speculate.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Rec.
Well put, as long as the middle of our defense holds up at least.
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-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 11, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not really accurate.
Haley really wants to develop the run. He wanted to so badly that he kept feeding the ball to LJ last year even when it was painfully obvious that he wasn’t getting it done. Haley is old school in terms of offense… use the run to open the pass.
And Charlie Weis wasn’t a big “air-it-out” kind of coordinator with the Pats. In their championship years, he implemented a West Coast offense. They had a strong running game with Corey Dillon, and Brady picked defenses apart with short to medium passes. It wasn’t until Weis left that NE had their ridiculous offense with Moss and Brady setting records.
The Chiefs are going to implement an offense that relies on the run and uses a lot of play action and short high-percentage throws. It’s going to be a very West Coast offense, and IMO, they should do it very well. They have the running game, and Cassel seems comfortable completing the dink and dunk passes. Add to that that Bowe tends to look best over the middle, and our 2nd round pick, Dexter McCluster looks to be a strong slot option and it’s pretty apparent what KC wants to do offensively.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thats all well and good
And if the OL is better it’s a sound strategy, it’s just not a come from behind type offense. So if would behoove the Chiefs to play something resembling decent defense
IMO
Defensively they look better.
As I posted above, the “Romeo Crennel Effect” is real. The limited schemes that we saw from him in preseason show that he will exploit weaknesses on the offense. Against PHI he kept attacking the right side of the line (where a 2nd string player was) and it resulted in 5 sacks. Defensively this is a much improved team. I’d go so far as to say that the defense looks better than our offense… which says a lot because preseason predictions had this O looking pretty good on paper.
The D is ahead of the O in development, and the O has had some really slow starts. The D kept us in games until the O could get it together to get some points on the board. Against PHI the D was on the field for 10 minutes of the first quarter, and only allowed one TD that was the result of Jamaal Charles fumbling on the opening play at the 20 yard line. Against GB the Chiefs first team D didn’t allow a single first down. Yes, it was mostly GB’s 2nd string playing… but you kind of expect good defenses to totally shut down bad offenses.
IMO, the OL is better… not by much, but just enough. They look to excel in run blocking. Bottom line is that if the defense keeps KC in games (which they have done so far in preseason) and the offense has time to get into rhythm, it keeps the game close. In all of KC’s preseason games we were either tied or winning when the Chiefs first teamers were removed.
Look… I’m not saying that KC will come out and spank SD (although that would be awesome), but there’s no denying that KC has gotten better in several areas. The Chargers aren’t going to get an easy win on Monday… if they win at all.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
How's the front three looking now?
Having had a year to gel, do you think their DL is going to be improved? Also, what about ILB play? I think between another year of 3-4 experience for Tamba Hali and a much better secondary, their pass defense will be good… if they can stop the run from base.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 8:51 AM PDT reply actions
In the preseason they have looked much improved
but they are still far from perfect. We held GB to 4 3 and outs the final preseason game. (Granted Rodgers wasnt playing). Against the Eagles our LBs produced 5 sacks. 2 from Demorrio Williams (who has been taking some snaps on one hand rushing) and 2 from Andy Stuebaker. Our LB situation seems to be pretty solid this season. Our starting ILBs for Monday will be Derrick Johnson and Jovan Belcher but look to see qute a bit of Williams as well. Studebaker looks like he will get a lot of playing spelling Vrabel and is his replacement when he leaves.
Chiefs Will
The Eagles line really sucks, but 5 sacks from the Chiefs is impressive.
I have a losing season for Philly.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Losing season in Philly?
That would be mildly surprising. They were bad during the pre-season.
One of the founding members of The Super Duper Matt Cassel Fanclub
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!
We all have the right to our own opinions, its just that mine are right.
by nateforchiefs on Sep 7, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Competition, man.
AFCS = scary.
NFCE = scary, if you’re Philly.
NFCN = scarier than it was last year.
Falcons + 49ers = scary.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
The front 3 is not going to be our strength
They’re doing their basic jobs better and allowing the LBs to make plays, but still not making plays themselves. So, improved but not where they should be. The ILBs have been up and down. Belcher and Johnson seem to be our most consistent duo out there, but Williams had 3 sacks in 2 preseason games so he will be out there quite a bit.
The pass defense has shown to be quite good during the preseason, at least while the 1st team was in. But the biggest difference that our secondary is making is actually against the run. Eric Berry has been able to shut down a lot of runs on his side of the field before they can really develop. There’s a great .gif out there of Berry taking out a fullback and runningback at the same time.
Congratulations
You held a RB that’s no longer in the NFL (Derrick Ward) to a one yard gain.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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He also knocked DeSean Jackson
out of the game on the first play of the Eagles game if that’s more impressive.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 7, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Not really
DeSean Jackson is a pretty tiny fella.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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Yeah
The huge knock on him coming out of college was that he would never be able to stand up to NFL hits.
and that’s pretty much been proven correct.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 7, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Here's the hit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO1J8jhA6tI
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Just let them write Berry off...
6 days until they can see him first hand…
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
And he did that
by stopping the NFL sized fullback in front of him, upending both. How well can you stop two 200+ pound guys running at you full bore?
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
Yes, comparing me, a blog writer, to a football player will make you feel better about Eric Berry
I can see that.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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I think the point is that it's pretty impressive that a 210 lb safety took out 2 200+ pound running backs.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure why we need to feel better about Berry...
The guys play speaks for itself. Prepare for many years of being harassed by him.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
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by John Gennaro on Sep 7, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He hasnt even played a down yet
Remember Jackson was suppose to be Seymor, and Dorsey was the next baby Sapp
IMO
by Foilhat on Sep 7, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
Also, these days I’m always left unimpressed when people are bragging about a player that can lay big hits. Ed Reed, Polamalu, Bob Sanders….rarely do these guys lay big hits. They’re just smart and technically solid in coverage.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 7, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is what Berry has been showing he is
He’s a fantastic athlete who’s always around the play, or coming out of nowhere to make one. In the case of the .gif above, he’s not laying a big hit by any means, but rather stopping two birds with one well placed hit by being below the fullback before he gets down far enough to block Berry.
He’s showing good football IQ through the preseason, and he’s not all about hitting a guy (Unlike Pollard was, he was all about the hit, and not much else). And I’ll say this about the Chiefs defense: They’re actually tackling now… something I haven’t seen in years.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
You know what else those guys all have in common?
They can’t seem to stay very healthy. Sanders and Polamalu moreso than Reed, but Reed barely plays a week without being Questionable on the injury report.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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The nature of the position.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
They also all have super bowl rings
which shawne merriman does not… but hey safety’s not worth a top 5 pick is it.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Sep 7, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure if you realize this...
There were 44 other active players on each of those Super Bowl winning teams.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
Shawne Merriman was not picked in the top 5
Not sure what the point of this was.
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Also, a question...
How many of the guys you listed were drafted in the top five picks?
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Not really.
Jackson had low expectations from the KC fan base his first year. We weren’t expecting immediate development or impact from him. With Berry we are.
And Berry has played several downs already. Sure it’s preseason… but that doesn’t negate the fact that he’s flying to the ball carrier, and using his superior athleticism to knock down passes. He led the entire team in tackles. In his limited time so far he has:
Taken out a FB and RB with one tackle.
Injured the Eagles’ star WR on the first passing play.
Almost picked off a deflected pass by sprinting and diving. It’s only a matter of time before he starts making those plays. He was literally inches away.
Closed about an 8 yard gap to the flat to knock down a pass.
Baited a WR screen on 3rd and 2 by playing back 10 yards, then tackling the receiver at the LOS when the ball got to him.
Obviously you haven’t been witness to his play on the field. I have. He’s smart. He’s insanely athletic. And he’s aggressive. He’s all over the field. Take it or leave it the kid is already making an impact.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah only Charger fans are allowed
to get excited about the potential of are young players who have not done anything on the field yet.
Berry looks to be a good young safety to me. Why fight it.
by JeromeB on Sep 7, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you.
I can easily admit you guys have a good looking RB. Hell, I’m working on a trade for him in my fantasy league right now.
I can understand why you guys don’t want to give Berry credit. Hell, I’d be terrified if one of our division rivals would have picked him.
Regardless… talk is meaningless right now. 6 days until you see what Berry brings to KC. I don’t think Charger fans will be happy.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he'll be fine.
I don’t like the idea of spending a top-five on that position, but far be it from me to question the guy’s talent.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Terrified may be a little extreme
But as I said I do think that he is a good young safety. Also it will be longer than six days to see what he brings to the Chiefs, one game just isn’t a good sample. A couple years from now we can begin to really decide the type of NFL player that he is developing into.
Again Chiefs fans should be pumped to have him, I would be happy if he were a Charger.
no one ever said jackson was to be the next seymour
he compared him more to ty warren, the media said that they were trying to make him the next seymour and as for dorsey he might be able to if he was in a 4-3 defense his entire career. i dont think hes fit out for a 3-4 but maybe pioli and haley see somethin that i dont
Player who NEEDS to step up: Matt cassel
Breakout players: Belcher, Gilberry, Moeaki
Early prediction for offensive MVP: Jamaal Charles
Early prediction for defensive MVP: Tamba Hali
Foilhat, EVERYONE thought Dorsey was the next Sapp.
Is he in the wrong defense? Not sure yet. But I know our defensive play went from awful to criminally 2(*#@! bad during the games he was out…
When he plays with the right technique he’s beasty x2. That’s coming—this is year two of this style of D, after all.
Now…T-Jax on the other hand, we all “wanted” to be the next Seymour. Pioli did too. Some good things have happened this preseason, and some things have stayed the same with him. We’ll see if he wants to be great or not; he’s got all of the skills.
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by go_saleaumua on Sep 11, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
"Don’t get nervous. Norv is in charge."
by creanium on Sep 7, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I was worried for a second that 33 might be a player that got cut as well
But, its Jabari Greer. Dodged a bullet.
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by Wonko on Sep 7, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
No doubt you guys got a promising RB...
Looking forward to many years of back and forth hits that spark a nice rivalry between players.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
So
he gets hit at the 20, and makes it to the 22 with no one hanging on him?
woo.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
23. But yeah, 7 yards where most guys would have gotten 4.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh
J.Charles would have at least got 10 or 12 there :P
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Not that way.
Those are two very different kinds of RBs. Mathews is more like a much faster Thomas Jones. I don’t think he’ll last as long, but he’ll sure be fun to watch. It’s fun to watch him knock guys around. He seems to really enjoy throwing one guy into the next.
The San Diego OL is also seriously underrated in run-blocking. Marcus McNeill was pretty much a pure pass-protector, and the loss of Hardwick last year hurt. still, the Chargers were 11th-best at avoiding negative run plays despite ranking at the bottom in rushing average. And Brandyn Dombrowski is a much better run-blocker than McNeill. Mathews-Tolbert will pull the team’s average up over 4.0, and make it nearly impossible to play to the air game.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Mathews is going to be a good addition to your team while he’s healthy. I watched the Chargers games and i hope we can contain him as well as keep pressure on Rivers. Our run defense has looked good so far this pre-season, and i hope it carries on into the regular season. If we have a chance at all of beating you guys it has to be now, and not later on.
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Really? The Chiefs are a young team. I’d expect them to get better as the season progresses.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
Yeah, but December in San Diego...
Great time to visit, if you’re not an NFL team.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 8, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I do expect them to get better as the season goes on.
But we all know how the Chargers play late in the season, their hard to beat late.
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I find this conversation bizarre.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
Why?
Emotion, momentum, health, experience, youth… these are important factors in the game.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 9, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant that the Charger fan was talking up the Chiefs and the Chiefs fan was talking up the Chargers. It was weird.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
I see it all the time.
But yeah, it is kind of funny. Truth is, what you think right now of KC’s chance in SD in December isn’t so much a function of your sentiment as it is of whether you think the balance of power will change, and how much faith you put in streaks and stuff.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 9, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like
bizarro BFTB
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 10, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions
You're missing the point there
Watch what happens to Jabari Greer (33) when he tries to hit Mathews. Greer gets bounced back two yards.
And Mathews gets hit at the 20 and makes it to the 17. Notice the arrows?
"Don’t get nervous. Norv is in charge."
That fine.
Yeah he ran over that guy, but can he do it for 16 games? He never made it through one season in college without getting hurt or missing games. Another thing, they say he’s a power back, well D.McCluster did more reps of 225 at the combine.
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It will be more like this :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hqGroNreE&feature=related
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That's Knowshon Moreno.
He may have been picked in the same draft order as Ryan Mathews, but he’s no Ryan Mathews.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
please oh please
throw up some more awesome team gifs. I’d love to see Hester’s block on Casillas
by Superduperboltman on Sep 10, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
he wont admit Berry is a beast until he knocks the crap out of a Charger
they are the only ones that are worthy….
Chiefs Will
I have an odd feeling
Berry picks off Rivers at least once…
Either that or Flowers…I won’t mind either way.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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by creanium on Sep 7, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Whats daffy doing with his hand
Is he making PB&J’s???
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
Yeah i have to admit it is funny.
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Boo...
But I love the hat. That’s the point of the whole GIF, right? Right?
/innocent look
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by go_saleaumua on Sep 11, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you started out strong with your statement, but finished really badly with your question.
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by Richard Wade on Sep 7, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The whole front 7 seems like a weakness to me
I mean the Chiefs sack totals in 08 and 09 are not even borderline pathetic. Tamba cant do it all himself
IMO
2010 is a whole new year...
The 1st round pick DEs have had another year in the system, so development is key there. Romeo Crennel can scheme better than Clancy freaking Pendergast.
Tamba can’t do it all himself, you’re right… fortunately for us we’ve had a guy by the name of Andy Studebaker on the roster for the last couple of years… and he’s been developing under Mike Vrabel for a whole year. And he hit the weight room really hard in the off season and has changed his body to what the coaches wanted from him. He’s recorded 2 preseason sacks and countless pressures. Again… in-house development (that is a big part of what good teams do) was a key part of the Chiefs off season plan, especially for the front 7, and early returns seem to indicate getting pressure on the QB won’t be an issue any more.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It looked to me
back in 08, the Chiefs secondary was solid at the corners and with the safeties. It seemed like the safeties got on the wrong side of the coaches and one got cut and the other just held out until he had to be traded. Berry seems like a definite upgrade, but with the sack production last year; I was just wondering why they didn’t go with the same safeties and upgrade some of the front seven?
The other surprise was that Charles isn’t the first back. Has Thomas really looked that good during preseason?
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I would agree here
In 09 and 2010 the Chiefs have lost above avg safeties, for next to nothing. All the while they seem to be neglecting their front 7 even with the suspect at best first round 5Ts. And Charles should be offended by being listed behind Jones even with his fumbling issue
IMO
"Starter" doesn't mean much in KC...
This is going to be a two-headed rushing attack, and they’re giving Jones the “starter” label because of his veteran leadership. It’s more of a respect thing. Charles has admitted to Jones’ mentoring him, and the two backs show nothing but respect towards each other. Jones has even referred to Charles as being like a “little brother”. Both backs are aware of their role, and they’re both committed to the team coming first.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
"Starter" certainly does mean something to the players
Which was my point. If you play the first play in the game and are called a “starter” thats money in the your next and or current contract. And money is something.
IMO
Don't worry.
Charles will get paid when the time comes. The Chiefs didn’t bring Jones in to win contract negotiations with Charles. They are well aware of what he brings to this team. They will pay him accordingly.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Not everyone is as stingy as the Chargers with contract negotiations...
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Still cant believe the Chiefs used 3 year deals
Charles and the starting CB should be RFAs next year. Somebody should be fired for that
IMO
He already was...
Fortunately we’re way under the average for player salaries. 2nd contracts are coming up for Flowers, Charles, Bowe and Tamba…
It looks like the Chiefs played it smart, have money under their cap and are looking to reward second contracts to players that earn it.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
under their cap
“Their” cap, not “the” cap. You know, the one Daffy’s wearing.
An autumn Sunday,
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 8, 2010 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Page isn't a huge loss
He overplayed his draft position, that’s forsure.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
But it is a loss nonetheless.
That’s how I read that.
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If McGraw starts all year, yes it will be a loss
If Lewis can take that spot from him, I think we’ll all feel pretty good about things.
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I do like Lewis.
If I recall my draft scouting correctly.
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He fell in the draft because he ran at the combine when he wasn't 100%
He had a BAD time and everyone backed off him. However, he hasn’t looked slow at all in camp/pre-season. Athletically he’s 10 times better then McGraw, but the Chiefs like McGraw’s smarts and attitude (McGraw has been special teams captain several times, great work ethic).
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Like KCP said,
if Lewis can secure the other safety spot, I don’t think it will be a loss at all.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
I'd phrase it differently.
I do think both players can be replaced (and likely have). I also believe their departures were mishandled and we could have had more to show for them.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 7, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Pollard definitely
But Page? I’m not so sure about that. He ended up on IR last season, and refused to showcase himself by skipping camp and not signing his tender. If it was truly about money, then he only hurt himself negotiating more.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
From what I saw
Either would have been an upgrade over what we have in Gregory/Stuckey (though Stuckey had moments and may develop). It just seemed odd to see two safeties taken in the last draft when one of the few areas that looked solid (to me anyway) two seasons ago was safety.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 7, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
What does where he was drafted matter at all?
If anything he should be more valuable with the same skill set if he’s paid less
IMO
I'm just saying he outplayed his draft position
so in that way, it could be perceived as a loss for KC, however I don’t think it will be.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
Both Pollard and Page had issues with Haley
Some people really miss Pollard and his big hits, but his coverage was always an issue. It looks like we may have got a steal in our 5th round pick Kendrick Lewis. If he does turn out to be solid our safeties will be good for a long time.
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Ahh, the Pollard and Page debate.
Page: Not a great tackler. Big plays galore. Had potential. Not very speedy (i.e. could get beaten deep).
Pollard: Lights-out attitude (you see what I did there?). Aggressive, tremendous athlete. Made “some” big plays but blew a lot of others. Instincts not so hot; not always coachable either.
Herm Edwards catered to both players—remember, safety is centerpiece in a Tampa style of defense. Haley comes in, demands things like film study, hard work, etc and found that Pollard wasn’t up to snuff in that regard. Page is cerebral and asks a lot of questions (also not something to do in Year One of a Parcells-style regime). I think cutting Pollard motivated him to succeed, at least in the short term…I also think Page will still have a good career, but isn’t any Darren Sharper to be or anything like that.
My take? We’ve got one rook who’s a great deal better in terms of aptitude and technique than Pollard WITH a track record of success…and another rook who’s basically a faster, more coachable, mentally tougher version of Page.
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by go_saleaumua on Sep 12, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
That gives me a better understanding. And just to be clear I wasn’t saying that Berry was a bad choice, or that you won’t get better play from these new safeties; just that it looked like you had talent there and needs at a number of different positions.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 13, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
At least they traded Page instead of just cutting him.
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If Cassell is only so-so this year...
Is it time to draft one of the many QBs available in the 2011 draft or to go after a free agent like Kyle Orton? Or do you stick with him because he’s making the $$$?
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You'll likely get mixed answers on this one.
If Cassel struggles, I think it’s time to start looking. I think you only go FA if you can get a stud. I feel Cassel will end up being an “average” QB (hope he proves me wrong). Unless a FA pick up is an obvious upgrade, I’d prefer the draft.
Cassel’s contract was front loaded, so the Chiefs can pretty much get rid of him after the season without much financial issue.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 7, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
better line, better WRs, and Charlie Weis means Cassel better look better then last season
not pro-bowl level, but better. Otherwise we move on.
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Just wanted to eat my crow
I was convinced the Chiefs would prioritize a pass rusher and a left tackle in the draft. Well I was wrong twice, those Chief fans that said I was crazy for saying you guys will pass on Berry, well you were right. On a not so side note, how do the Chiefs expect to win games with suspect OL and pass rush (excluding Tamba of course, who IMO is the best LB in the division)
IMO
The OL
may or may not be so suspect anymore, that remains to be seen. Albert was never a thought to be replaced at LT, and the media is to blame for that portrayal. In terms of the OL, I think pass protection is their weak spot, and run blocking seems to be working really well. Hard to gauge in the preseason though just how effective they are.
As for the pass rush, Crennel seems to have brought with him some plays that are going to alleviate the lack of sacks and pressure on opposing QB’s, and make the front 7 look not so absolutely terrible. It’s either that, or everyone is doing their jobs correctly for once and plays are mostly getting stopped when they should be.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
by IISaiNtII on Sep 7, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We've upgraded C and RG on the line.
Albert at left tackle should (fingers crossed) be better this season. He was great his rookie year, but struggled some last season. He was asked to drop weight, and we are hoping the adjustment to that change is over. The line play also improved over the course of the season.
The belief on the pass rush is the new DC, and improved play as young players develop will make a difference. I’m concerned about this. Preseason has looked pretty good, and I almost believe despite my best efforts. We had 4 sacks against the first team O-line of the Eagles.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 7, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for recognizing Tamba,
the dude was the only pass rush threat on the team last year, was held almost every play and still managed to wreak havoc. Our hope is that Romeo can dile up some blitz packages to get more pressure on the QB. We’ll need better coverage over the middle to make that work though. We’re hoping Berry and Arenas help in that department.
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Our RT is ourweak spot on the line.
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by nateforchiefs on Sep 7, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Defensively, the Chiefs were banking on better coaching from Crennel and in-house development of Jackson and Dorsey, as well as teh LBs on hand.
Early returns show that Andy Studebaker has really taken to Vrabel’s mentoring, and shows ability to get pressure on the QB. He has a motor that reminds me of Jared Allen…
As for Crennel, he is probably the biggest off season pick up for KC. If you look at Arizona, you can see an addition by subtraction last year after they dumped Pendergast. Their overall stats greatly improved with almost zero player acquisitions. This year we dumped Pendergast, and brought in Crennel. We’ll see how it goes… but Pendergast was a god awful DC.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
"Pendergast was a god awful DC."
Preach it, brother. Ugh. And now the Cal Bears have to deal with him. Have fun being NFL-ready and fundamentally sound, Berkley-bound three star recruit.
/rockin’ the sarcasm font
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by go_saleaumua on Sep 12, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Two rooks I'm interested in
Dexter McCluster – How is he looking? And how is he being used? Has he been in at tailback or is he exclusively a slot receiver now? What kind of reports have you had from training camp?
Javier Arenas – Pretty big name from Alabama but how’s his transition to the NFL? Coming into the draft, people were worried that his size would keep him from playing a legit CB position in the NFL. Is he at least suited to the nickelback position? Will he be handling any returner duties next week?
Dex = Fast. He’ll likely play both WR and RB. He has the potential to score with every touch. I know that gets said about a lot of players, but I really believe it with him.
Arenas will be the KR/PR though you may also see Dex back there. Don’t knoe about coverage, but as a KR he is impressive.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 7, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
McCluster...
Looks amazingly fast. Willing to take a hit, pop up and go some more. He’s been used everywhere from RB to slot to returning kicks. In training camp, the big story about him was that he busted out of as many cleats as there were days in the week. Literally tore the cleats unusable because of his cutting ability.
Arenas has mainly been the return guy, seeing some nickel action. Transition seems to be very good to me.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
We love both guys
McCluster was the most talked about player in camp. The dude tore out the soles in multiple pairs of shoes because he cuts and jukes so hard. They are moving him all over the field (RB, WR, Wildcat).
Arenas has looked like the next great return man in pre-season. He will be our primary returner with McCluster getting some looks from time to time. I don’t think he’ll threaten to start at CB but should be solid at the nickel. The jury is still out on how good he’ll be in coverage.
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Everyone knows McCluster can make plays and run fast
The question that continues to linger is if he’ll ever make it through a season. He was always dinged up at Ole Miss.
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He took a monster hit vs Philly and jumped right up.
At the risk of sounding “fruity” the guy’s body is a piece of art. He out benched guys twice his size at the combine. I don’t want him getting 20 touches each game in the NFL, but the guy is tuff.
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He may be tough
But he was fragile going up against college guys. This ain’t college anymore.
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I think that is why...
He won’t see many touches. Maybe 3 to 5 throws to him a game. A run or two and maybe a PR or KR. Then again, it might be double those numbers. Every game it seemed like he took a pretty big hit and he got back up. So far, I’m not that worried there are plenty of “smaller” guys in the NFL that take hit after hit.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
I don't feel like people are listening here
I’m not knocking him for being small. He could be 6’5, 250 for all I care. He did get hurt a lot in college. And not just hamstring strains and the like, but as a result of hard contact.
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He would miss a few games in college yes.
But no major injuries as far as I know. I think he will be fine for us.
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by nateforchiefs on Sep 7, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I dare the Chargers to kick to either of them...
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, losing our killer gunner scares me a little.
But I think our overabundance of mid-grade talent at those medium-sized positions bodes wll there.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
You guys definitely have us beat in depth...
The Chiefs are just now starting to get real NFL starting talent at multiple positions. We’ll be more competitive than in years past if we stay healthy.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree. I have the Chiefs at 7-9
In a cluster***k of 7-9 AFCW teams. I originally had Denver poking out above the crowd, but that’s before I realized they lost Mike Nolan.
An autumn Sunday,
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Dumervil is overrated.
Nolan can get a pass rush out of anything. Losing Nolan is the real blow.
Rookie WRs can’t be counted-on, and I don’t think Moreno is a difference-maker, just a starter. At his position, that’s not worth much.
An autumn Sunday,
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
Nolan is the biggest blow.
but with Moreno they have nobody at RB. They don’t have much of a WR threat either so their rookies would help on the outside. Dumervil is still the best pass rusher on their team, overrated or not. All of those gone, yet somehow most of the people at MHR still think they are going to win 10 plus games. I love homerism but that is too extreme.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
When I forgot about the Nolan thing, I had them at 10-7.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG
I’m not sure whether I’m shocked that you forget that Denver gets rid of all there good players, or that you think they make the playoffs? If my math is correct, you have them losing the wild card game?
With Nolan, that's what I had.
Without, I have them in 3rd place at 7-9. I don’t think any of the AFCW QB comparisons are at all close: Orton is the division’s #2 QB by a mile. WRs really aren’t that important; Brandon Marshall is good for maybe 0.5 wins over a replacement-level WR, if the QB is decent.
I don’t think Dumervil’s loss matters much if the DC is really on his game and really understands his personnel. I feel okay giving Mike Nolan credit for that, but a promoted position coach has to earn it. So without Nolan, I take away three wins. Without Dumervil or Marshall, I chuckle and ignore the loss.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll take that...
My guess is SD at 10-6, Chiefs/Raiders at 8-8 and Denver at 6-10.
Realistically I expect a .500 team… but I honestly think KC could be a sleeper team …. maybe it’s just my homerism talking… but we might shock the NFL.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't think of six teams that could beat San Diego this year.
An autumn Sunday,
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You may be right on that...
The schedule is weaker all around our division. I forget the exact stats, but I think KC is getting 9 teams that were among the worst ranked run defenses last year. Charles might break the record for single season ypc average. Barry Sanders holds it with 6.1… Charles had 5.9 last year.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
The problem with relying on a running game
is that having a good ground game and pass D can make you competitive against anybody, but it can’t make you competitive against the whole field. Teams with great rushing offenses seldom stink badly, but it’s not the secret to beating .500. KC just doesn’t have the air game or ground D to put on a winning season, even though I do expect year-over-year improvement (and a soft schedule).
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
True...
Regardless, I’d be ok with a .500 performance from KC this year, especially if Jamaal Charles breaks a legends record :)
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by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
is that having a good ground game and pass D can make you competitive against anybody, but it can’t make you competitive against the whole field
Something about that statement just doesn’t make sense to me. Not saying you’re wrong, because there are a lot of teams better than the Chiefs….
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
What I mean is...
It’s a good recipe for winning upsets from time to time, but it won’t get you to a winning season unless all the breaks fall your way.
An autumn Sunday,
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
What is the level of confidence in Cassel?
Has the fanbase embraced the guy?
Hello can of worms!
Some people say he’s going to be GREAT, just give him time and weapons. Others are already wanting to drag him out behind the stadium and beat him with a broom stick.
"There is no charge for awesomeness" - Kung Fu Panda
Not really.
Even the local paper is questioning the guy’s confidence and decision-making. Call it what you will, I suppose. I’m content with seeing how he does this season, seeing if he gets more comfortable in the pocket. If he continues down the same path, I’d like to see some competition brought in that isn’t Brodie Croyle.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
Can Pioli handle being wrong
We have a GM here with a rather developed sense of ego.
Time will tell...
but in that same realm, they’ve release/cut some draft picks from 2009… albeit quietly. I think it would be in his best interests to do something similar if the need arises.
The way I see Cassel, he was an educated gamble, and right now he’s not paying off.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
Agreed.
Let’s see what this season brings.
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-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 12, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
He really seemed to be lacking the blanket
AKA Wes Welker, the slot receiver to checkdown to
Is McCluster the new slot receiver?
or more of a third down back?
He is listed as our SLOT WR
but, I think he’ll mostly be in on 3rd downs to try and spread the field more or get that quick first down. He will also take a few carries every game out of the backfield or wildcat imo
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
Yeah he can throw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVvNsBq4Gzs
Not great quality or a great throw but he will mostly be used
To run the option out of the wildcat, maybe have Charles come out of the slot for a handoff or something.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
He actually can throw a little
I know he did it a few times at Ole Miss.
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Can Charles throw?
Not a challenge, more just asking because I haven’t heard one way or the other.
Did Charles take any wildcat snaps last year, or is this a completely new thing this season? If he did throw last year, how did that go?
Not that we know of...
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Larry Johnson ran
the wildcat last year early in the season and fell down once he got the ball. I think Charles ran it a couple times and just ran right up the middle like a draw play basically.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
Arenas was drafted to be a nickel corner
He could make the transition but I think the coaching staff would rather have him at nickel and return man than starting at corner at least for the next couple years.
McCluster is an all purpose weapon. If we didn’t have Arenas he would be our starting return man, he’ll primarily see time as the slot receiver, running back maybe 2 times a game, and wildcat pretty often.
Dwayne Bowe
Does he still have attitude problems? Is the coaching staff still down on him?
His numbers plunged last year. What do you think he can do this year?
He seems to be on the level this year. No weight problems, no attitude problems, and no pending suspensions. I will look for him to establish himself as a legit #1 receiver this year.
What exactly was the issue last year?
I don’t remember exactly what happened. Didn’t he get bumped down in the depth chart to start the year because he pissed off the coaching staff or something? Was it just a training camp thing or was that a persistent issue all season?
He was inconsistant
Haley rode him because he knows Bowe is better than that (Haley being a former WR’s Coach). He also got suspended 4 games last year because of a “masking” drug for steroids which Bowe said it was a diretic for weight loss.
Bowe has been working really hard in camp. He even went to Larry Fitz’ camp this year and Fitzgerald had high praises for Bowe.
He has also shown more consistancy this preseason and in camp.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
Chris Carter worked out there as well
and said to keep an eye on Bowe ‘cause he’s going to have a monster season. Hope he’s right.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Sep 7, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
A guy in my fantasy league just offered me Bowe for Fitzgerald...
I might take it. Fitz getting double teamed all year is likely to hurt his value… that and Derrick Anderson throwing to him.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
He reported to camp at 240lbs.
He was suspended (4 games) for banned substances. Inconsistency and lack of focus were the biggest issues with him.
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by nateforchiefs on Sep 7, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems like
Chambers and Bowe have hands of stone. Has that looked any better in the preseason? It appears to be a big question mark for a possession/WCO style offense.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 7, 2010 10:53 AM PDT reply actions
Since when does Chambers have hands of stone?
I wouldn’t say he was prone to drops when he was with us in San Diego and I haven’t heard anything about that since he went to KC.
He was really disinterested in SD
When he clearly fell to 3-4 option, his concentration really lacked, and was released
He had trouble catching the ball all throughout his Miami years
And it continued with the Chargers.
Somehow in Miami he started catching a higher percentage of the passes thrown to him, but that wasn’t over a whole season.
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*Somehow in Kansas City he started catching a higher percentage...
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I wouldn't characterize his time in San Diego...
as being plagued by hands of stone. Yes, it’s true that his production dropped near the end. But I don’t remember him making that many egregious drops. He might not have the stickiest hands ever but I don’t think he has any worse drops than your average #1 WR. Certainly not someone who deserves the “hands of stone” label.
If anything, I remember Chambers being a reliable receiver for most of the time here. Rivers definitely trusted him (again, excluding those last couple weeks).
I only remember him making egregious drops (exaggeration)
Drove me crazy.
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I would.
His ’09 catch rate was laughably bad. He cost us probably 250 meaningless yards with dropsies and failure to separate.
An autumn Sunday,
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude, he was all we HAD last year. LOL.
But as an opposing fan, I know you’re right. I remember these issues w/ Chambers well…
Being in this convo is kind of like walking in on two of your best friends talking about what they hated about your fiancee when they were dating/seeing her. Yikes, lol.
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by go_saleaumua on Sep 12, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
49 percent
catch rate for the year.
VJ was 63%
M80 was 59%
Legedu was 83%
Those can be deceptive if a QB is throwing the ball away, but I remember a number of flat out drops in 09.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 7, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I have't noticed anything about Chambers hands being bad.
The guy has seemed pretty consistent with the Chiefs, though I cant say about how he was with you. Bowe seems to be ready to go for the season. There wasn’t a problem with drops in the pre-season and he has made some really good catches. It seems Haley and/or Weis lit a fire under his ass or something but he is ready to go!
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by nateforchiefs on Sep 7, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
From what some at BFTB saw last year
The Chiefs liked to use crossing routes and other short patterns to get Chambers open in space where a defender couldn’t challenge him. On the Chargers (and Dolphins) if he was challenged for the ball he’d have a tough time coming down with it.
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I've noticed this.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Very, very true.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 7, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
How will the pass rush improve under Romeo?
I remember the disguising of coverages in New England, but his pass rush wasn’t his greatest strength?
I didn't realize KC is getting a new stadium...
Does it have the steep angle for seating like old Arrowhead? I imagine it holds more people.
Now I am even more charged to see that Monday night game (as if I needed more reason). I am now curious to see how the sold out crowd can influence the game.
Can some one provide the high point on this new crib?
Same stadium...
State of the art renovations
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually that might be good for visiting teams
If they put in a bunch of sealed of luxury boxes it might cut down on some of the crowd noise. Honestly I think Arrowhead is THE loudest open stadium in the league.
Loud to the point of being unhealthy… Can loud noise like that make you sterile? When they fill it up Arrowhead certainly gives the Chiefs a 12th man on the field.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 7, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Supposedly
A filled up Quest Stadium is equally as loud. Never been to either, just bringing up the word on the street.
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Ive never been to Quest but I have heard its a pretty loud stadium
but they also say it was made to reflect the sound from what I have heard.. but I have heard it is loud as well
Chiefs Will
Qwest
has metal bleacher seating in it as well, which was done on purpose for making more noise.
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
The roofs on Quest kinda makes it an "almost indoor"
I just never understood how the bowl shape of Arrowhead reflects the sound back inot the feild. It seems like the sound should go up and out like any other place. But there is no question the place gets loud as hell.
It is gonna be hard for the Chargers first game of the season; still working the kinks out; not able to audible or hard count. Add in a dozen false start penalities and its hard for any team to win.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 7, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
They'll just shove the ball down KC's throat.
The advantage of having Ryan Mathews!
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Us midwesterners
are used to having to yell in open spaces… On our farms… to people riding tractors… that are harvesting corn…
If you can sack groceries, you can sack a QB... right?
The kool-aid is now Berry flavored.
Try yelling over the sound of crashing waves on the beach
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Or the raucous cacophony of Spring Break
Or the steady, thunderous “zing” of the highway network.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 8, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The seats weren't really messed with. The suites were remodeled and a new press box was added.
The main renovations came from 2 HD scoreboards/displays, concourses widened, a “hall of honor” added to commemorate former Chiefs greats, a “Horizon Level” standing area/bar on the upper deck, a few club level bars, and a kids interactive area.
The concourses (along with being widened) have had face lifts by installing radiant heaters/lights that emit a bright red glow in the ceilings of the lower and club level concourses, and all concourses have had murals painted on the walls to show off great Chiefs moments, like Derick Thomas sacking Elway and a 1970’s Chiefs huddle that had the Super Bowl Offense. In the middle of the spiral ramps leading to the upper levels they have hung stands of LEDs that can display messages.
All in all Arrowhead is still Arrowhead, it’s just had a bad ass face lift.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh....
And the luxury boxes have retractable windows… so Mr. and Mrs. Moneybags can still yell at opposing teams.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
heres a couple new things at Arrowhead..pictures included in every story
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/7/31/1598055/commissioner-roger-goodell-joins
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/8/26/1651704/kansas-city-chiefs-open-the-hall
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/7/26/1588486/touring-the-new-arrowhead-living
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/7/25/1587180/touring-the-new-arrowhead-stadium
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/7/24/1586096/touring-the-new-arrowhead-historic
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/7/23/1584591/touring-the-new-arrowhead-chiefs
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/8/28/1654761/photos-kansas-city-chiefs-new-hall
Chiefs Will
Hmmm...
KC will beat a lot of spreads. New stadiums and renovations do that. I think this is a pick ’em game, even though I think the Chargers are the better team going away.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
my personal favorite to the additions is the hall of honor..
I miss the ring of honor though I hate the screens there now.. and I kind of miss the green padded walls… I know lots of people thought they where ugly but I like it
Chiefs Will
No doubt SD is better...
But the electricity that will be there on opening night might spark an upset.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think there are three things that are equally plausible:
1) Chiefs can’t stop Mathews, get rolled up and smacked around.
2) Chiefs pressure Chargers’ pass D early, keep them from building a lead, die in Q4.
3) Chiefs pressure Chargers’ pass D early, keep them from building a lead, hold on for a hard-to-cal game.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Cory Greenwood
Just wondering how he is doing? I am assuming he made the team for his ST play. Will he make the 45 for the game?
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 7, 2010 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
he flying around on STs
he had a crushing block on a return against the Packers that sprung Arenas. The player he blocked was out the rest of the game…
Chiefs Will
sweet
I hope he has a great season (starting wk 2 because I wish to be polite to our hosts here).
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 7, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah Im glad he made the team
I dont think he would of played on our PS.. I think he would of went back up to Canada
Chiefs Will
he would probably make as much money on the PS
The CFL doesn’t pay all that well at the moment.
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Sep 7, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Carry distribution between Jones/ Charles?
60 % Charles, is my expectation as a charger fan, how accurate is that assumption?
Pretty close, IMO.
Might be more 50-50… but it doesn’t really matter. The Chiefs are going to do very well running the ball down defenses throats.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
How bitter is the fanbase with the trade of Jared Allen?
The defense has taken a major downgrade since he left, I must be easy to associate it with his departure.
by TJBOLT on Sep 7, 2010 12:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This is how I fear we will feel about Merriman.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Merriman left two seasons ago... didn't you get the memo
I don’t expect big things from SM with his “new team”.
Allen was, and continued to be, a monster. He is everything we are paying Loius Castillo not to be.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 7, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey cpa if you are looking back...
… Why not go with Derrick Thomas? I’d take him over Jared Allen on my All-Time Chief’s defensive front! Acceptance is the final step in the process.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 7, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
ehh a little bit of bitterness...
but if Charles continues his production is wont be that bad of a trade… the way I look at it hes not a prototype for a 3-4 DE.
We did get Brandon Albert and Jamaal Charles from those picks they traded us. I do miss Jared though he was a fan favorite
Chiefs Will
I will forever curse Carl Peterson until we have another pass rusher that can average 14 sacks a season.
I am not happy with it.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 7, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The San Diego fanbase blames Gene Klein for the lack of a title
Gene traded Fred Dean in 1980, and the defense went down the toilet the moment he left, and wasted the last great years of fouts & company.
Really?
Hmmm… I was a season ticket holder at the time, and I was as unhappy as anyone that Mean Fred Dean was sent packing. But I think it’s overstating the case to say Gene Klein is responsible for the lack of a title. True, he could be cheap as they come, but I think there is a parallel to a certain front office presence today. The Chargers’ front four was together for the five years previous to 1981, and Air Coryell won division titles and the AFC top playoff seed in 1979 and 1980. A loss in the 1979 divisional playoffs to Houston and in the 1980 AFC championship game to the Raiders dashed the dream, and Fred was on the field for both. The Chargers also went to the AFC Championship game in 1981 without Dean (who was traded in mid-season), losing in frigid Cincinnati a week after the epic overtime game in Miami. (Does anyone else remember the Cincinnati stadium crew opening the field-level access doors to let the wind in when the Chargers had the ball? But I digress.) It’s true that the defense was never the same after Dean left, but to say that’s the reason the Chargers haven’t won a title? Nah. The last time I checked, the Spanos regime had failed to win a title as well.
Oh, by the way… what did the Chargers do with the draft pick they got from SF for Dean? That pick was used on some guy named Billy Ray Smith. He was an okay ball player, too.
Are Marlon McCree and Antonio Cromartie the same person? Just askin'.
And a few years later the Niners took Louie and Big Hands too!
I wonder why I don’t harbor more antimosity towards the 49’s for stealing all those Hargers greats?
They took Gary Plummer too, but at least he was a No Cal native.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 11, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
the chiefs win if...?
the chargers win if…?
Life is like riding a bicycle, to keep your balance, you must keep moving.-Einstein
the chiefs win if they score more points than the chargers
the chargers win if they score more points than the chiefs
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by creanium on Sep 7, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oops, I forgot to add "when time has expired" to the end of those statements
How silly of me
"Don’t get nervous. Norv is in charge."
by creanium on Sep 7, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Cheifs win if...
… the Chargers can’t make adjustments and commit excessive penalties due to crowd noise. A big part of the Chargers success lays in adjustment (mostly after the half). If the Chiefs put up even an average defense that noise is gonna turn the tide.
The Chargers win if they can get ahead early and break the morale of the crowd, hard to do the first game of the season on a Monday night. Later in the season, in a down year, maybe KC fan does more staring into his cup of $15 beer. I think it would take at least 21 point lead.
The X-factor to me is the Chargers D. If they can keep the KC score low, who knows??? Maybe Rivers can find that open guy to steal a close victory.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 7, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm game
Chiefs win if: Get lead early, Charles is dominant, and they can control the clock. Defense takes advantage of Dombro, and gets pressure, resulting in missed passes, and int’s. And obviously control Gates/Floyd from dominating the game.
Chargers: Get solid protection from Dombro, improved running game from Ryan Mathews is a factor and plays well (80 yards over 4 per carry). Defense keeps Charles to under 100, and chiefs under 120 yards rushing, and forces Casel to make a comeback. Turnovers will follow.
FWIW
The P.R. Machine has never (knock on wood) thrown more than two picks in a game.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
wow that is an impressive stat
I would only change it to (as a full time starter) The only game he has ever thrown more than 2 was the last game of the 05 season against the Broncos. He threw 3. I hate Rivers but he is a damn good QB.
Chiefs Will
Not sure which game you're talking about.
The last regular season game of 2005, Rivers threw 1 interception.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 7, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah. So Brees had two?
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No. Ok. Tomahawk44's just mistaken.
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's Rivers' career games log
Sort by INT and you get the beauty that is the career of never throwing more than 2 INTs in a game.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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Or even as a starter.
That was the game when Brees got hurt.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That's why I call him that.
The guy’s consistency is unreal. He’s… like a machine.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Lowest PR in 2009 reg season was 84.5. In last 2 years, he’s been below 50 once, and below 85 four times.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 7, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
So what is proportion of reps at RB
The Chiefs have too many talented guys to have a #1 RB. So how does it divide up?
Also what do you think the split between pass and run will be (independent of game circumstances)?
Who?
The undersized guy from the Jets with crappy hands?
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Aptronym
Clown-ey = “Clown Island”
WR Clowney, under smothering coverage by Hole In Zone, cannot escape from Clown Island.
It’s too bad Ellis Hobbs wasn’t a better cornerback, huh?
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 10, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
So
I can’t keep track of what your official uniforms are anymore. You have blue helmets and white helmets, the “newer” dark blue stuff and the original retro stuff. But, it seems like some of the retro looks have become more permanent than just an occasional thing. What’s up? Which uniforms are your favorites? I’m partial to your old vintage stuff.
22.
Part of it is last year's 50th anniversary thing.
Most years, the Chargers have three uniforms. Home (dark blue), away (white) and alternate (powder blue). The blue helmets were abandoned in 2007. Last year, you know how your guys had those Dallas Texans uniforms that looked like the Chiefs unis, but with a different logo? Yeah, we had a powder-blue jobbie with numbers on the sides. Sadly, they lost a game in that “throwback” uniform, which is probably an indicator that we should just keep wearing the powder blue alternates we have: in those, the Bolts are undefeated.
I thought the Chargers’ throwback away uniforms (the ones they played the Chiefs in) were really, really awesome, fwiw.
An autumn Sunday,
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 11, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like throwback unis EXCEPT for the Chiefs
because they’ve changed their uni so little over the years they had to resort to the old Dallas Texans uniforms which sucked. I don’t think we need to have Texas on our KC helmets.
Hmm, didn’t know the dark blue helmets were abandoned. INteresting. But, any of you powder blues and whites are the way to go.
22.
We don't want to go to all powder blue, for a few reasons.
1) We’re undefeated in the powder blues. The team draws a lot of fire and energy from that, which would be impossible to maintain 6x-plus per year.
2) Twice a year, the powder blues are super-cool. All year long, the powder blues would just look pansy. The Panthers can pull it off, barely, because their other color is black.
3) One major SD constituency that doesn’t have a huge community in KC is the navy. They like our navy blue unis, thanx.
An autumn Sunday,
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 11, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Twice a year, the powder blues are super-cool. All year long, the powder blues would just look pansy.
Totally disagree. This is like saying yellow and purple look pansy for the Lakers. They don’t.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 11, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Purple/yellow are complementary colors.
Nobody calls the Vikes “pansy.”
An autumn Sunday,
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 11, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The reason the Chargers don't go to powder blues is very simple
They can sell both the powder and navy blue jerseys. If they limited themselves to one or the other then it wouldn’t give the consumer options and they might buy less. The current setup provides the best of both worlds for merchandising purposes.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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Fine, be cynical about it.
I like my reasons better.
An autumn Sunday,
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 13, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Though they could easily reverse the situation...
… busting out the navy dress for Raider Week and one other time. But that would take a new mythology. Besides, the alternates are undefeated. How many teams can say that?
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Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 13, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
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