Predicting the Final 53
by Wonko on Sep 4, 2010 3:00 AM PDT
in San Diego Chargers Training Camp/Preseason
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PrintCuts are coming. I'm sorry if this makes anyone feel a certain kind of way, but that's the NFL. Here's one man's thoughts on how it'll turn out.
| Quarterbacks (2) |
| Philip Rivers |
| Billy Volek |
As soon as I heard that the Chargers would consider sending Crompton to the PS, I wondered why I hadn't thought of this myself. They can't trust Crompton to play this year, they have other good players to take up roster spots and no one is going to pick up the kid on waivers. 2 QBs. Bold move. I like it.
| Runningbacks (5) |
| Ryan Mathews |
| Darren Sproles |
| Mike Tolbert |
| Jacob Hester |
| Curtis Brinkley |
Brinkley is a solid back and he's a good story. But, I have him making the team because I think they can use him on coverage units. The rest is obvious.
| Wide Receivers (5) |
| Malcom Floyd |
| Patrick Crayton |
| Buster Davis |
| Legedu Naanee |
| Seyi Ajirotutu |
I like Jeremy Williams and it pains me to cut him, but I just don't think he's capable of being a #1 or #2 WR in the league and A.J. can find the role playing WRs pretty easily. Ajirotutu I think needs to be protected because he could be the next Malcom Floyd. Josh Reed did nothing to earn a roster spot this summer.
| Tight Ends (3) |
| Antonio Gates |
| Randy McMichael |
| Kris Wilson |
No brainer here. I know Wilson struggled, but he's still better than the other guys in camp. Maybe if some one decent hits the waiver wire they dump him, but I doubt it.
| Offensive Line (8) |
| Brandyn Dombrowski |
| Kris Dielman |
| Nick Hardwick |
| Louis Vasquez |
| Jeromey Clary |
| Scott Mruczkowski |
| Tyronne Green |
| Veteran Tackle To Be Named Later |
I think its obvious to many that the Chargers need a little more veteran presence here. They tried with Tra Thomas, but that didn't work out. They'll find somebody who has a least started a game in the NFL before.
| Defensive Line (8) |
| Luis Castillo |
| Antonio Garay |
| Jacques Cesaire |
| Travis Johnson |
| Ogemdi Nwagbuo |
| Alfonso Boone |
| Vaughn Martin |
| Cam Thomas |
The Chargers need everyone of these guys in order to have a fully functional defensive line. Trust the rotation, believe in the rotation and, if you're so inclined, pray for the rotation.
| Linebackers (9) |
| Shawne Merriman |
| Stephen Cooper |
| Kevin Burnett |
| Shaun Phillips |
| Larry English |
| Brandon Siler |
| James Holt |
| Antwan Applewhite |
| Brandon Lang |
I don't want Jyles Tucker. We don't need Jyles Tucker. I'm not sure why anyone ever thought an NFL team could use Jyles Tucker. That was harsh. Let me put it this way, I'll be disappointed if they keep him here.
| Cornerbacks (5) |
| Quentin Jammer |
| Antoine Cason |
| Donald Strickland |
| Fred Bennett |
| Nathan Vasher |
Will Vasher make this team? Better yet, who makes this team instead of Vasher? Jeremy Williams? Maybe. Jyles Tucker? I hope not. Crompton? I'd rather have Vasher or Williams. Okay then. Vasher stays.
| Safeties (5) |
| Eric Weddle |
| Steve Gregory |
| Darrell Stuckey |
| Paul Oliver |
| C.J. Spillman |
I hesitate on Spillman, but I think we'll want him for the special teams units at some point.
| Kicker, Punter, Long Snapper (3) |
| Nate Kaeding |
| Mike Scifres |
| David Binn |
Checking my work: 2 + 5 + 5 + 3 + 8 + 8 + 9 + 5 + 5 + 3 = 53
| Practice Squad (8) |
| Jonathan Crompton |
| Jeremy Williams |
| Ryan Otterson |
| Nic Richmond |
| Kion Wilson |
| Mike Nixon |
| Traye Simmons |
| Brandon Hughes |
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I don't know about the two QB thing
I think there is risk that we could lose Crompton before we need him next year. And all it really buys us is the ability to hang onto a 5th RB who will never play and whose like could be picked up off the street at any given point in the season. I think when you look at the risk vs. reward, we need to keep Crompton.
That being said, if Rivers goes down for any length of time, we will probably need to cut Crompton and bring in a vet, but that decision can wait until that happens (if it even happens)
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 4, 2010 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Volek replacement vs. Sproles replacement
I wonder how closely the team is monitoring Leinart….
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Assuming perfect health in week 1
who are your inactives?
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 4, 2010 6:06 AM PDT reply actions
LB's and OL
9 LB’s and only 8 OL? I’m not sure I agree with that one
Crompton would be scooped up on the PS
Paul Oliver is a waste
My take
3x ST: Scifres, Kaeding, Binn
3x QB: Rivers, Volek, Crompton*
6x WR: Floyd, Naanee, Crayton, Davis, Ajirotutu*, Williams*
4x RB: Mathews, Sproles, Hester, Tolbert
3x TE: Gates, McMichael, Wilson
7x OL: Dombrowski, Dielman, Hardwick, Vasquez, Clary, Mruczkowski, Green
23x Offense total
5x CB: Jammer, Cason, Strickland, Vasher, Bennet
5x S: Weddle, Gregory, Oliver, Spillman, Stuckey*
4x ILB: Burnett, Siler, Cooper, Holt*
5x OLB: Merriman, Phillips, English, Applewhite, Lang*
8x DL: Garay, Castillo, Cesaire, Johnson, Thomas, Martin*, Nwagbuo*, Boone
27x Defense total
Assuming perfect health for Week 1, inactives would be Crompton, Stucky, Holt, Williams, Tutu, OG, Martin, Lang.
Any good looking OL on the waiver wire push either Vasher or Bennet off the roster.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 4, 2010 6:25 AM PDT reply actions
Mine isn't far off
A bit different. I keep Crompton. Drop Brinkley. For now, I have Richmond where you have an unnamed vet, mostly because he’s already there.
I keep 10 LB’s. Tucker, IMO, isn’t going anywhere just yet. We have to find QB pressure somewhere. I have 4 CBs since both Oliver & Gregory are capable of playing that spot in nickel or dime packages. Vasher has stunk it up. If Bennett is any good at all he beats Vasher out for that spot.
The rest is the same as mine that I posted a few days ago at my site – only change since then was Crayton > Reed.
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
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How 'bout this?
This is just what i think it WOULD be, not SHOULD be
QB-
17 Philip Rivers
7 Billy Volek
8 Jonathan Crompton
RB-
24 Ryan Mathews
43 Darren Sproles
40 Curtis Brinkley
FB-
35 Mike Tolbert
22 Jacob Hester
WR-
80 Malcolm Floyd
11 Legedu Naanee
(14? Maybe 83?)Patrick Crayton
84 Buster Davis
89 Seyi Ajirotutu
TE-
85 Antonio Gates
88 Kris Wilson
81 Randy McMichael
OL-
62 Brandyn Dombrowski
68 Kris Dielman
61 Nick Hardwick
65 Louis Vasquez
66 Jeromy Clary
63 Scott Mruczkowski
69 Tyronne Green
79 Nic Richmond
Offense: 24 Players
DL-
74 Jaques Cesaire
76 Cam Thomas
93 Luis Castillo
70 Alfonso Boone
71 Antonio Garay
92 Vaughn Martin
91 Ogemdi Nwagbuo
LB-
56 Shawne Merriman
95 Shaun Phillips
54 Stephen Cooper
99 Kevin Burnett
52 Larry English
59 Brandon Siler
90 Antwan Applewhite
94 Jyles Tucker
CB-
23 Quentin Jammer
20 Antoine Cason
31 Nathan Vasher
30 Donald Strickland
29 Fred Bennett
S-
32 Eric Weddle
28 Steve Gregory
25 Darrell Stuckey
27 Paul Oliver
Defense: 24
PK-
10 Nate Kaeding
9 Nick Novak
LS-
50 David Binn
P-
5 Mike Scifres
Special Teamer-
16 Richard Goodman
Special Teams: 4 Players
Total Players: 53 Players
Tell me what you guys think
why do we need two place kickers? And isn’t Novak already gone?
by not humble enough on Sep 4, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
No Travis Johnson?
I think he’s our best 5T.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 4, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s 54. Kaeing, Novak, Binn, Scifres and Goodman = 5
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I was thinking and with Marcus Mcneill i think we have one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. Nick Hardwick is one of the best Centers, Kris Dielman is one of the best guards and Mcneill is a great LT. But right now we cant afford Mcneill
How's that kool-aid taste?
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by Buck Melanoma on Sep 4, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I think your prediction looks right on
the only thing they may do is keep the third QB and lose one DB.
It seems like Green is playing
Tackle now, if there is an injury to either Vasquez or Dielman who steps in to play guard right now?
Is it Mooch or Green, or do they need to sign a Vet Guard more than they need a Vet Tackle right now?
Mooch and Green are fine here. Even though Green has been playing OT, they love him (and Mooch) for their “versatility”.
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Thanks
It appears that Green has really stepped it up this season. Last year he had a hard time being on the active game day roster and this year it looks like he might be the first option if anyone on the line besides Hardwick gets hurt.
If the Chargers feel good about Green at both Tackle and Guard maybe they don’t need a Vet backup on the O-Line.
I think you’re going to be having lunch with acee
by Orz on Sep 4, 2010 8:58 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
TJ Housh....according to The Sporting News
Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer reports the Minnesota Vikings, New York Jets, San Diego Chargers and Arizona Cardinals have already made trade offers for the former Bengals wideout
that would throw things into a bit of an uproar and definitely seal Cromptons fate.
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 9:32 AM PDT reply actions
If TJ gets cut
maybe the Chargers talk to him, but I don’t see them trading for him and picking up his contract.
Ah not so fast...
I read yesterday I believe that the Hawks would be liable for the remaining amount from this years salary.
Espn.com
So if Houshmanzadeh were to sign a veteran minimum deal of $850,000, the Seahawks would be liable for the remaining $6.15 million balance.
That doesnt mean anything about remaining two though.
Chargers wouldnt touch that contract with a 10 foot pole
The guy is basically worth nothing, the Hawks might actually have to give a team picks just to take that contract. HA
IMO
according to the article
seattle pays the bilk of the 1st year salary
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
YES I am aware of that
However that is the case if he is cut NOT if he is traded because when you trade a player you trade his contract.
IMO
this is what it says
Schefter reports the Seahawks will be responsible for most of the money even if they trade him, per the contract’s terms
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
just going by what i read bro
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
as is the case with john...
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
uf schefter says it, it must be truw!
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Research it
I dont expect you to believe me over schefter. I mean let’s assume Seattle would pay his salary if he was traded. Wouldnt that give him trade value? If you answer yes, then why did they release him? You think no team wants to give up a 7th for free whosyourmoma?
IMO
that was a joke bro
(except the John allways being right part!) besides, researching contracts gives me headaches
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow, thanks!!!
i dont think i ever been rec’d before, is there any smiley faces here?
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
WHEN WILL THE JETS HAVE ENOUGH RECEIVERS?!?!
Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Santonio Holmes (eventually), Brad Smith, David Clowney and Laveranues Coles could be coming back eventually
Its insane how much depth they have at that position.
Im from Canada, eh
by jordanmowbray on Sep 4, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
and yet, sanchez
still throws as many picks as td’s!
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha, he sucks!
thank god we have p-riv.
Im from Canada, eh
by jordanmowbray on Sep 4, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
No McNeal on the practice squad by choice, or because you don’t think there’s a chance he makes it through waivers?
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Saw that
Just going to cluster it in with the entire group of cuts later.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 4, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Josh reed’s officially been cut. Also, I noticed the giants cut gatrell Johnson, not that we’d want him, but I remember when we all thought he was the chargers answer at running back and we were sad to let him go. Giants don’t want him either!
by nicklusk on Sep 4, 2010 10:16 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I remember when we all thought he was the chargers answer at running back
It’s nice of you to pretend that I wasn’t the only one.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 4, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Great Job Wonko
I will put my perceived deviations on the official record. I agree with everything but..
I have Crompton on the roster and no Brinkley.
I have Williams and no Tutu.
And I think OG gets cut in favor of a 9th OL from waivers. Yes I think the Chargers will sign and or claim two OL during cuts. One a OT and one a center.
Other than that I agree.
John should give a get out of timeout free card to the most accurate roster
IMO
That would be a good idea.
VJ would be great for the Rams. Their OL blows monkeyballs and they have a super-expensive unproven QB who looks like a good player that can’t yet handle pressure. VJ can get the ball pretty much anywhere, so he’s always a threat. He’s also a better-than-average blocker, which really matters for a team with a good ground game.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 4, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
And it's the RAMS
So we’d take a 2nd and a 5th, rather than a 2nd and a 2012 3rd.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 4, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Deadline's coming up
We’ll now everything soon
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by matthewverygood on Sep 4, 2010 11:23 AM PDT reply actions
Who knows
Not many saw the Crayton move coming so anything is possible but does anybody think a VJ deal happens?
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According to Kevin Acee
Vasher and Crompton have been cut.
Vasher and Crompton released — ka
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we dont think any less of you guys!
how about if we say AJ was wrong instead!
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
c'mon and release the list allready AJ
the temp is allready 96 and climbing here in Az and my AC died 3 weeks ago!
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 4, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions
We have a thread for this
Open Thread: Chargers Roster Cuts
We’re on top of all the moves.
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