Should the Vikings Trade for Vincent Jackson?

by John Gennaro on Sep 2, 2010 11:13 AM PDT in San Diego Chargers Media Coverage

Michael Silver from Yahoo! Sports wrote an interesting article today about why the Vikings should do everything in their power to trade for Vincent Jackson immediately. He makes a lot of valid points, his main one being that if you're going to bend over backwards for Brett Favre and push in all the chips for 2010 you can't leave Brett hanging with an injured Sidney Rice (out for at least half of the season) and Percy Harvin (who probably shouldn't be near a football field with his constant migraines).

What's mentioned in the article is that whatever team trades for Vincent Jackson will first want a long-term deal worked out to make sure that they're not giving up something valuable (like a high draft pick) for a rental that wouldn't even play 16 games for them. What isn't mentioned is that 2010 is also the last year of Sidney Rice's contract, and there's no team in the league that can really afford hanging out two deals for #1 WR money if they expect to keep any of their other star players.

Basically, if the Vikings were to get Jackson they would have to give up a high draft pick, give him a ton of money (Trusting that his off-the-field issues are behind him...remember the Vikings love boat scandal? They're still trying to get away from that) and probably say goodbye to Sidney Rice. That last part is especially important when considering long-term contracts, with Sidney Rice having a better 2009 season than VJax and being 3 years younger than him he would seem to be the safer long-term investment.

Granted, Silver's suggestion to Minnesota is to offer Jackson a one-year deal for $6 million dollars and figure out the long-term deal later on, but the problem will still be there during and after the 2010 season.

So, should the Vikings give up on their long-term plans and once again go "all in" on winning the Super Bowl in 2010 with Favre and Jackson? Every GM in the league would tell you that's the quickest way to get yourself fired, but a lot of owners around the league are willing to take the risk to get the Lombardi Trophy in the lobby of team headquarters. What do you think?

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i said the exact same thing

about 2 weeks ago when harvin had his migraines!
plus wont it be sweet when we SMOKE the vikes in the Superbowl?

"i'm not inclined to resign to maturity"...PSYCH theme

by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 2, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions

Sure why not they had such good luck with Randy Moss

V-Jax has been good. The deal he wants have ZERO incentive to ever be good again. Long term, all guaranteed up front.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 2, 2010 11:40 AM PDT reply actions

I still maintain

he’s going to be a Redskin.

McNabb has got to have some weapons or bringing him into that franchise will be for naught.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Sep 2, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

The 'Skins totally make sense - they got the money

The problem for them though is that they need every draft pick they can get for the next 3 years to rebuild the team’s depth. I don’t know if they are willing to give up a 2 and a 3 for someone they can get in the offseason. Unless by week 3 McNabb is completely beat up waiting for wide receivers to stop sucking.

If I’ve misjudged the depth of the Skins they should totally do it.

by not humble enough on Sep 2, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions

trade VJ for Rice

they are both going to miss time this year even if we have to toss in a (conditional) pick)

"i'm not inclined to resign to maturity"...PSYCH theme

by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 2, 2010 11:48 AM PDT reply actions

The Vikes aren't giving up Rice

That’s just crazy talk. ;-)

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Sep 2, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions

john said it, sooooo

it has to be true? doesnt it?

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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 2, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions

You're such a schmooze

Didn’t mom teach us better than that? :-p

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Sep 2, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions

I said the opposite

I said they’d have to give up Rice to get VJ, essentially, which is a big reason I don’t think it’ll get done.

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

by John Gennaro on Sep 2, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions

dud i misread this?

and probably say goodbye to Sidney Rice

"i'm not inclined to resign to maturity"...PSYCH theme

by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 2, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions

my bad

just the very thought of us getting rice, no matter how slim, has made me delusional

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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 2, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes, context....

Basically, if the Vikings were to get Jackson they would have to give up a high draft pick, give him a ton of money (Trusting that his off-the-field issues are behind him…remember the Vikings love boat scandal? They’re still trying to get away from that) and probably say goodbye to Sidney Rice.

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

by John Gennaro on Sep 2, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions

high draft pick?

You would think so, but word on the street is that they’d take a 2nd rounder for him in a heartbeat.. Would you give up Rivers for a 2nd round pick?

Health, criminal record, attitude, those things affect value just like lack of ability. Jared Allen is loved by everyone that knows him, and his DWIs led him to being dealt for a low 1st rounder.

by Secondeye on Sep 3, 2010 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions

Word on the street is wrong.

2nd and 4th, or equivalent.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 4, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions

From an NFC team that's not projected to have playoff hopes.

If Jacksonville (AFC) or Minnesota (good team) wants him, they probably have to give up more.

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 4, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions

Would you give up Rivers for a 2nd round pick?

Hardly fair, man. Rivers is a franchise QB. As goes Rivers, so goes the playoff window. This team has two untradable players (three at this point, because it’s too late to trade your Center, not because he’s all that amazingly valuable); everybody else is negotiable. Most of them aren’t worth a 2nd/4th (or a 2nd/2012 3rd)

An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 4, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions

As a Vikings fan..

V-Jack is probably more talented, but they’re similar players and bodies… It’s just that Rice is a hell of a lot more likeable than Vincent Jackson, with no blemishes on his record. Rice also wants to cash in on a massive contract after only having one good year, but his pleas are a whimper compared to Vincent’s roar.

I can’t stand that Michael Silver has his massive opinions and regularly pulls out the hatchet on players and personnel for his articles, but is too afraid to open up the comments section on his columns.

There’s no way the Vikings move on Jackson.. it was a shock to hear they even spoke to his agent, but insiders reported that the conversation dried up about a milisecond after they heard “5 years, 50 million, 30 guaranteed”

As for the guy saying the Chargers smoke the Vikings in the Super Bowl.. I’m not sure which scenario is more ridiculous.. the Chargers not getting blown out in a Super Bowl if they even make one, or the Vikings managing to not shoot themselves in the foot long enough to make one.

by Secondeye on Sep 3, 2010 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions

didnt mean to offend anyone with the "smoke" comment

but hey, its preseason, after 7 long months of chugging the koolaid im ready to get this party started!

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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 3, 2010 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions

I think we are set at WR, to be honest

It’s not like we run a lot of 3 or more WR sets giving the use of 2 rb and 2 te sets.
We have a decent top 3 and a couple of decent spare parts without VJ.

I don’t think we really have room for another WR (although we could make room if we need to)
with the direction this team is taking towards versatility from the RBs and TEs.

by riversformvp on Sep 2, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Tell you what

I’d trade VJ & Cooper to the Skins for Rocky MacIntosh, their 2011 2nd, & their 2012 conditional 3rd.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Sep 2, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions

that sounds good

by bstew95 on Sep 2, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Silver proposed

the vikes sending us their 2011 3rd rounder which could escalate to a 2nd rounder.

Seems to me that we get a 3rd round compesation pick for VJ when he walks so I’m not sure we’d trade him for what we’d already be getting. I think we need two picks in the 2nd and 3rd round range to trade.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 2, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions

Feel free to speculate

But fans get to know teams and their tendencies much more than outsiders.. and it would be pants-droppingly shocking if the Vikings made any offer for Jackson at all.. let alone getting into giving up half your good picks in a draft on top of paying him 10 million a year as a reward for his despicable behavior so far.

Then there’s the system.. The Chargers are more vertical aren’t they? 90% of the routes in the Vikings offense take place between the LoS and the first down marker. Those long TDs you saw to Rice occasionally last season were few and far between. They want a guy to go across the middle, catch the knuckle-busting bullet from Favre, and then take a hit.. and then they want you to go smack a DB in run blocking for 3 downs.

I’m not saying Jackson isn’t that guy, but the Vikings window is closing after this year. We don’t need a malcontent making 50 mill on a team that would only win 8+ games on the strength of a defense.

by Secondeye on Sep 3, 2010 2:28 AM PDT up reply actions

They want a guy to go across the middle, catch the knuckle-busting bullet from Favre, and then take a hit.

VJ could very well be that type of guy, he has the size, we just never utilized him in that role since we have the incomparable Mr Antonio Gates!

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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Sep 3, 2010 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions

I voted yes because it would yield the chargers something whereas they currently have nothing.

by Orz on Sep 2, 2010 12:36 PM PDT reply actions

That picture was such a great play

I will miss the on the field Vincent Jackson

by benrb on Sep 2, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions

No Doubt He's a Beast

Sucks he will be gone in 48 hours

IMO

by Foilhat on Sep 2, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah it does.

Just bought his jersey last season too on a hunch that we’d sign him long term. If we do trade him I will have retired every jersey I own THIS OFFSEASON! The other two are LT and Williams. I will keep the other two but the Jackson one I’m not sure. Might use it for target practice and make it my avatar (depends on what team he goes to). :P

Please don't read my signature.

by SoCalBoltFan on Sep 2, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't think Jackson will be traded anywhere.

He’ll sit out the whole year, and we’ll get a 2012 comp pick. Hopefully someone gives him a truckload of money so we get a 3rd rounder.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 2, 2010 4:31 PM PDT reply actions

Id be willing to bet he's traded in the next 48 hours

IMO

by Foilhat on Sep 2, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions

That'd require him to back off his contract demands.

I can’t see any team giving him the $30m guaranteed he wants.

Faceless slider-tossing goofs FTW.

by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 2, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah well those are disputed contract demands

In that VJacks agents disputed them, and those are the numbers Acee has floated. Now I am going to stop short of calling Acee AJs lap dog, but it’s not that much farther than something to that effect. Plus the word guarantee doesnt mean shet if it’s not a signing bonus

IMO

by Foilhat on Sep 2, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm way more inclined to believe Acee than an agent.

Anyway, I don’t think the Chargers would even go for this proposed Minnesota trade, when they could potentially face them in the Super Bowl this year or in the near future. Probably the only teams they’d be willing to deal with are crappy NFC teams. So unless Tampa or St. Louis or Seattle or Detroit suddenly wants to make a deal, he probably stays put.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 2, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions

I believe Acee isnt lying

I just doubt what he says is actually the truth, and even if they were asking for 30mil guaranteed that’s why it’s called a negotiation. As for the Minn proposal I couldnt agree with you more, they want to see him to a NFC team that’s rebuilding Skins, Hawks, Rams ect.. Even though I think the Skins stand a shot at the playoffs this year, even with their tough division

IMO

by Foilhat on Sep 2, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions