Chiefs vs. Chargers: Winning The Bet
by Joel Thorman on Sep 14, 2010 9:25 AM PDT
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Greetings, Bolts From The Blue.
As you know, John Gennaro and I made a bet on the Kansas City Chiefs and San Diego Chargers Monday Night Football game: The winner gets a front page post on the loser's blog.
So here I am. Oh, I'm Joel from Arrowhead Pride, by the way.
No, don't worry. I'm not here to gloat -- although, after losing two straight years to you all (and 80-21 last year) I think some gloating would be warranted.
I just wanted to give you a few of my thoughts on the experience at Arrowhead last night.
First off, the stadium was rockin' for a few reasons. The first Monday Night Football game at Arrowhead in seven years. The debut of the much anticipated 2010 rookie class. The opening of the renovated Arrowhead Stadium, along with a pregame video, fireworks and light show (here's a good video of the pre-game stuff).
There were a lot of reasons Chiefs fans were excited last night but the biggest of all was that the Chiefs were facing the best. It's no secret the Chargers have dominated the Chiefs and the AFC West over the last few years. So for the Chiefs to beat them best, it makes it that much sweeter.
As for the game itself, I knew the Chiefs wouldn't be able to win in a conventional way. You won't see Matt Cassel throw for under 70 yards and the Chiefs win very often but the extras in the game were just huge. From Dexter McCluster's return, to the delay of game penalties to Derrick Johnson's forced fumble on Ryan Mathews, everything just seemed to fall into place.
Even with all of that, there the Chargers were, with seconds remaining on the clock, and just five yards from sending it into overtime. You saw the game so you know what happened next.
I know it was a tough game for all of you but for at least one week you'll have to share the AFC West spotlight.
Great game for Chiefs fans. A hell of a game for both team's fans to watch. And it was for all the country to see.
Take it easy, Bolts From The Blue. Thanks for a great start to the opening of the 2010 NFL season. We'll see ya'll December 12th at Qualcomm.
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Congrats on the win
Three good and fortunate plays was enough to get it done. Both team have a lot to work on.
See ya at Christmas time! It will not be raining in San Diego.
You never know... It just might rain...
I live in Cali, the last few Decembers have been bad (in California terms).
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
KC got more rain last night during that game
Than we get in some full years. What we call rain probably won’t effect the feild as much as the rain did last night.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 14, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you wish the team played in more bad weather?
It seems kind of a detriment that rain could go against you because you’re used to playing in perfect conditions.
If I could have it anyway I’d personally choose to play in shitty weather all the time then when my team went on the road to warm places it would be like a bonus instead of worrying about the forcast.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
The playing conditions
were really bad for the Chargers. If the stadium wasn’t loud enough already, getting drenched and trying to find your timing on a soggy field must have been miserable. Obviously, home field advantage is part of the game so no one is making excuses. Aside from one long run, your offense didn’t do so well either. And your offense had the luxury of being able to hear audibles and snap counts.
It’s a good win for you guys. Props to you. Your young players stepped up and that should help their confidence.
I think this game had a playoff type atmosphere and it’s good experience for our team as well. I think they can look back on this game down the road and think, “Hey, we’ve dealt with worse conditions than this.”
Take this away take that away.
Same thing could be said for your offense. Just a couple big plays.
But you didn’t really answer my question. I asked if you feel like the majority of your games being in perfect weather is a detriment to your team since it was such a big factor last night.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
I think the bigger factor
Is that we had a number of players trying to gel together and its the first game of the season on a team trying to overcome a habit for starting slow. The rain made it harder to do those types of things. Especially once they got behind. Later in the season the Chargers would probably play in the rain better. Perfect weather in SD or no perfect weather in SD.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
No, check out the box scores Jux...
Jux
Same thing could be said for your offense. Just a couple big playsPR 22 completions 8 yard average for 2 TDs
Time of possession 40 minutes to 20 minutes
First downs 18 to 9
Net yardage 400 to 200
The Chargers were good, much better than the Chiefs last Monday night. But it is better to be lucky than good, I would have rather had the W.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 15, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fair weather
feel like the majority of your games being in perfect weather is a detriment to your team?
I think this isn’t only a San Diego problem. Every fair weather team has to deal with this. IMO it is one of the things that make the game great. Build a team to succeed in Miami and they still have to win in Buffalo. Sure maybe the Chargers can throw the ball, but KC can run it. Sometimes you get sun, sometime snow.
I wouldn’t say the fair weather is a detriment, it is what it is. Pray for surf!
by Trendsearcher on Sep 15, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah,
Those mid 70’s days can get pretty horrible when there’s more than one puff of clouds in the sky! :)
Chiefs Will
What are these "clouds" you write about?
Is that the same thing as “snow”? I have heard tales of this in the land of Dragons…
by Trendsearcher on Sep 14, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Chiefs fan here, thank for the props, Trendsearcher
the rematch should be fun, both teams will have it together by then (as much as they’re ever going to) and maybe our QB can break 100 yds passing (not that I’m counting on it)
great game, Rivers is still awesome … and any Chiefs fan who says they weren’t worried that last 2 minutes is lying … you have a damned good team
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Sep 14, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
Rivers is really good. He gets emotional and I’m fine with that.
Both teams had to play on a soggy field and both offenses suffered. If Buster Davis doesn’t slip on his route, Rivers hits him for a TD and ties it up. I think it was first down. Anyway, football is a game of inches. That’s just how it goes.
Well said mountain man.
It’s a miracle it didn’t go into overtime, and if they hadn’t have slipped on the last play of the game in the back of the endzone, it would have.
And if it would have gone to overtime, I do believe the Chiefs lose that football game.
The momentum had clearly shifted, and the Chiefs were 3 and out consistently.
We’re nothing over here at Arrowhead Pride, if not honest.
We have a lot of work to do if we’re going to have a chance to beat this team again in the re-match.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
Okay...
I understand the rain played a factor. However, both teams had to play in the rain so please do not use that as an excuse…
2010 Chiefs are on the rise. This is the most excited I've been since 'Nam...
by kcchiefsfan72 on Sep 14, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
I’m a Chargers fan and it disgusts me when I see so many people in our community blaming it on the rain.
True, the field conditions were suboptimal. True, that was a darn loud stadium to play in. True, we did outgain them and we made their offense look downright incompetent.
But at the end of the day, all that matters is that we were on the wrong end of 21-14. So let’s give the Chiefs their due because they played a fair game and ultimately they came out on top. For this week at least, they beat us. Let’s stop making excuses about what happened and instead look to the future and look forward to our rematch.
by cowbell on Sep 14, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
Outstanding reply, Cowbell, and rec'd...
I also commend you on your brutal honesty. And yes, I also concur that you all outgained us and less the Charles blast for the 56-yard TD, our offense was rather drab.
2010 Chiefs are on the rise. This is the most excited I've been since 'Nam...
by kcchiefsfan72 on Sep 14, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
more like pitiful ...
we did just enough at just the right times, had the crowd as a factor and the Dex runback was hugemongous … beyond that, gritty Defense and perhaps some luck, which I’ll take anytime
cowbell, props to you and the Chargers, still a great team and it was one helluva game
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
milli vanilli.
it disgusts me when I see so many people in our community blaming it on the rain.
Nice… :]
Other Arenas wish they could be like Arrowhead Stadium and when rivals think they are going to be fine on an island of Flowers, they will get hit by what feels like a Carr. Ultimately, they will never be able to eat a Berry ever again.
It's not an excuse
It’s a reason. When you’re playing in the rain, typically the team with the better run offense and special teams is going to win. And they did.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Sep 14, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
Explaining why something happened isn’t excusing it. The Chiefs were better equipped to handle the elements and they won, but Charger fans should be encouraged that the rain and crowd noise were such factors as there are going to be at least 8 games where they don’t have to deal with both.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Sep 14, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree.
Chiefs fan here. I was at the game. When it started raining several of us in my section immediately pointed out that with our running game and electric special teams the weather could definitely play to our advantage. None of us wanted Rivers to have perfect weather to throw the ball in. Late second half the wind pretty much stopped which is when he had the most success.
Thank god for the rain. Even though it was damn cold. :-)
Agreed
Should the Chargers have been able to handle the rain? Yes.
Did they handle the rain and field well? No.
Did they lose because they didn’t handle the conditions well? It seems pretty likely.
Do the Chiefs deserve credit for handling it better than the Chargers? Yes.
Does it make the Chiefs a better team? Maybe
Will it help the Chiefs win a Super Bowl or the Chargers to lose it? Super Bowl is played in a dome.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Super Bowl will soon be in northern outdoor stadiums, weather is a BIG part of NFL games
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by teabaggingexper on Sep 14, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Not weather like that.
Especially, in northern stadiums in February.
Chargers have played in the snow just fine.
Also, those will be different teams. This year’s Super Bowl winner will win the game in a dome. I guarantee it.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
A dome with a huge TV inside!
Please don't read my signature.
by SoCalBoltFan on Sep 14, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
^^^ that bit ^^^^
Do the Chiefs deserve credit for handling it (the conditions) better than the Chargers? Yes.
I don’t think the Chiefs handled the conditions any better or worse than the Chargers. 17 punts tells me it was just a sloppy situation for all parties involved. Really things came together for the Chiefs as designed on ONE play for the entire game (and dang don’t I wish the Chargers could have stopped it!)
The punt return… the fumble return…. they count for sure, but I chalk those up to the fortunes of war.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 14, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The rain effecting the Chiefs passing game, is just an excuse. It means nothing imo.
You guys didn’t seem to have a problem at all getting the ball down the field to receivers in the rain.
We were both on the same field playing in the same conditions.
The Chiefs just have a lot of work to do, it’s that simple.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
You guys didn’t seem to have a problem at all getting the ball down the field to receivers in the rain.
What game were you watching?
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Sep 14, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
22 of 39 for 298 yards and 2 TD's for a 98.0 QB rating?
Cassel would have killed to have Rivers stat line in that rain.
10 for 22 for 68 yards and one TD for a QB rating of 68.0?
Naturally, the rain caused problems for your passing game….but I saw your biggest problem as the mis-communications between Rivers and your Center…..
which was probably due to the finest 12th man in the NFL.
Us.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
I think Rivers tantrums at his Center, made the guy so nervous and
embarrassed that it just compounded the problem. Not the perfect leadership strategy from Rivers.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
Ummm.... No
Philip Rivers does not… can not…. Make Nick Hardwick nervous. If anything, PR’s "display" could have gotten Phil a beat down, to be dispensed at a later date. Hardwick is a seasoned vet. He can take that.
If anything the outburst gave Hardwick the excuse to pass the buck on down the line (as if he needed an excuse). Nick Hardwick is a bad ass.
But yeah they were having trouble calling the blocking assignments.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 15, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
Last I heard, Special Teams is part of the game too. It’s not like we didn’t know your young guys can run. Truth is, our punt coverage was HORRIBLE. There’s no excuse for that when I even know KRs were your best shot of winning the game.
On the flip side, Sproles was horrible. I’m beginning to think he’s rich now ($14M 2009 and 2010) and doesn’t have anything to prove, so he’s lost his heart. It was just one game, but if he keeps it up, I’m going to be forced to that conclusion. He just looks slow and disinterested.
Yeah for the type of cheddar he's getting payed
he needs to contribute a lot more than he did last night. Like you said though, it’s just one game he has plenty of time to step it up.
Please don't read my signature.
by SoCalBoltFan on Sep 14, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
thats because he wishes he was a chief.
Live Adventure!
by MountainManMike on Sep 14, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW congrats on being #1 in the AFC West
for now…..
Good schedule for the Chiefs coming up
Browns and then 49ers … Both lost last weekend.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 14, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Both of those teams looked HORRIBLE too.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
These are the games we HAVE to win.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
yeah, we're #1 ... for now
might not last long, though
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
sounds like you found a new home
you are bad mouthing the Chiefs more than the chargers fans. They won a game on MNF be happy for at least a minute.
by bringbacktheglory on Sep 14, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Conrats on the win
The stars definitely aligned for you last night. I guessed the Chargers would have an uphill battle with the crowd and your stars did what they were expected to do. It’s a big win for your team. Your offense, for the most part was horrible, but I think your defense held it’s own and played better than I expected. D. Johnson played like a stud and and was a big factor in the game. I also thought Berry wouldn’t do well in his first game and he didn’t as he was responsible for all of the Chargers 14 points. I’m not sure who had a worse game, Berry or Mathews. Either way, they should both eventually be studs. It’s just too much to ask for them to take over the league the first week, especially with the expectations put on their shoulders.
Enjoy being in first place. You know the season is far from over.
Yup
Pretty much what we were kind of expecting from preseason. The defense looked much improved (holding SD to less than 20 points for the first time in a long, long time), special teams were a major plus and the offense was not very good outside of Jamaal Charles.
by Joel Thorman on Sep 14, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Both teams had to play in the rain
But I’m going to go ahead and give the rain an assist when it comes to holding the SD offense from scoring. There were many slips on both sides, but on the final drive, Buster Davis loses his footing on a perfect strike from Rivers. That would have been an easy TD.
I would even expect Cassel to throw for triple digits if the place doesn’t have monsoon conditions.
Strangely, Berry was the low point of the rookies... and the secondary
Arenas, McCluster and Moeaki were difference makers. Kendrick Lewis played well filling in at FS and nearly had a pick off a tipped pass. Sheffield was out with injury and Asamoah is a backup G, so there were no expectations there.
Berry did not shine as expected – but he will improve. Knowing the kind of character and determination he has, he will work and work and work until he gets there.
by Ochophosphate on Sep 14, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Berry is talented
being asked to man up on Antonio Gates in your first NFL start is overwhelming for anyone.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
Berry was second on the team in tackles behind DJ.
by bamachief5558 on Sep 14, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
and he was first on the team...
in coverage blown resulting in a TD.
Seriously he could have had more – I saw him alligator-arm a few guys and whiff another one or two. Perhaps it was the weather – he couldn’t slow himself down or cut well enough to square up – I don’t know for sure.
I do know that I expect him to play better every game this season. I’m also very happy to see the other rookies stepping up and making a difference. If this continues, this may be the best draft class KC has had in some 30-40 years.
by Ochophosphate on Sep 14, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
He blew coverage on Naane too
I expected him to be inconsistent. Same with Ryan Mathews. He was doing a good job holding on to the ball, but he made the rookie mistake of trying to do too much. Great play to strip the ball by the linebacker. Mathews almost looked he was going to keep running out of that traffic. He didn’t have a lot of room to run. I expect him to play better as the year goes on, as I do with Berry.
It might not have been flashy...but Berry did have 6 tackles last night
Team Berry
by MasterBlaster7 on Sep 14, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
And totally blew the coverage on Gates on his TD catch
But, that’s just a rookie being a rookie.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
SD, yah DJ was killer all night long ... a dozen tackles and a forced fumble ... that was a pleasant surprise (or shock) seeing that much production form him, and certainly needed
scrappy defense and good running game, along with electric return guys in McCluster and Arenas … that’s going to be the Chiefs recipe for whatever success comes along this season
I also give credit to the rain, as Rivers had to be greatly affected by it, and certainly more so than Cassel … it was a huge win for us, fans helped too with the noise, and the team being pumped for the home opener AND being MNF as well … couple of great runs and hold on for dear life
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I completely "expected" this from DJ.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
Hey, you're dealing with CHIEFS fans here...
Not the Raiders.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
Silly R2J_24
Raiders fans can’t write.
...And as the roar of 80,000 red-clad great plains warriors fills the hallowed halls of Arrowhead, it will strike fear into the hearts of lesser men. For on that field, individual men toil for something greater than individual honors. They toil as brothers-in-arms, as 53 spirits striving towards a single purpose and driven by a single goal: The glory that comes with vanquishing your foes. They will achieve their birthright, they will be champions.
thanks for the props ... you guys are cool
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
If we have our say...
we will. Either way, I am going to enjoy this win for a long time, or at least until we meet again. Mostly because of the bitter taste still in my mouth from the game, in Arrowhead, where you all came back with two quick strikes to beat us when we clearly had it locked up. All we had to do was recover an onside kick. Sheesh…
2010 Chiefs are on the rise. This is the most excited I've been since 'Nam...
by kcchiefsfan72 on Sep 14, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
ah something that brings chargers and chiefs fans together
a mutual burning hatred for the idiot raiders
Right....
We weren’t making shanks out of toothbrushes during English class.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
It sure was an exciting game.
In my opinion the wrong team won, but thats because I’m a biased Charger fan.
All due credit to KC. They were fired up and actually looked like they wanted to play. The Chargers did way too many things wrong and looked very listless while doing it.
He’ll of a game though.
Hope KC can beat Oakland and Denver too. (but just them and no one ele)
If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong
by Diesel85 on Sep 14, 2010 9:36 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Congrats to the Chiefs
Was a great game to watch, the rain, the noise, took the concept of home field advantage to the next level.
IMO
Thanks Foilhat...
Let me tell you, it was INSANE down there last night. I had season tix during the Herm Edwards Error—sorry, Era, and you could have held Mass in Arrowhead during the games by season’s end.
Last night my buddy and I couldn’t hear each other in the 1st or 4th quarters, sitting side by side.
Yep. What. A. Game. And SD will bring it all in December too…so I’m looking forward to the rematch. Maybe we’ll find a passing game by then? lol
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 14, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
No, STANDING, lol...forgive my sleepy ingorance.
He pointed out to me, on our way home, that I stood for the entire second half AND refused to put on a dry shirt because of “superstition.”
I believe I was onto something.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 14, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Chiefs fans have known for many, many years that Arrowhead is the loudest in the NFL when it's rocking
… and it was just that last night … huge game for us, your Chargers had a lot of us worried at the end, I guarantee … stay classy and seeya in December
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Damn good game guys!
Rivers is definitely a competitive player……I figured he would turn up the heat in the second half.
San Diego has been representing the AFC West well the past couple of years. Hopefully the competition between these two teams will bring the national focus back to our division.
(falls back to sleep at work desk)
I was mad as $#%@ when we drafted Dexter McCluster and now I'm ordering his jersey......oh the irony! Go Chiefs!
by Hail2DaChiefs on Sep 14, 2010 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
A few things I noticed throughout the game
1. The Chiefs front 3 was very stout against the run. I was nervous about R. Matthews but, we held him down.
2. Brandon Carr was excellent against Malcolm Floyd,
3. The Chargers were not prepared for this game. I blame Norv Turner. For all the things going on in KC to make this game special, you’d think Norv would have a solid game plan for the crowd. I.E. Silent snap count…
4. Chiefs Special teams was amazing outside of the 7 yard punt. Everyone is focusing on McCluster but Arenas averaged 30 yards a return as well.
5. I think the Chargers were fortunate we couldn’t execute on 3rd down. If we could have made some of those, Charles gets more carries and more carries for Charles more than likely equates to 50 more yards and another score.
6. Rivers is a beast. Even in the rain, the guy was gutting it out.
7. Sproels was not used nearly enough, especially catching the ball. Last year he had a 70 yard TD off a dump off. Cant say that im upset at his usage though :)
8. The Bolts LT did a good job against Tamba Hali. He is injured so ill take it with a grain of salt but, kudos to that guy.
9. Im looking forward to Berry not having to play or focus on a pro bowl tight end. The Gates factor was responsible for both TD’s. Berry made 2 rookie mistakes but I don’t foresee those issues popping back up…at least until we play the Chargers again.
10. Arrowhead is back. The loudest most disruptive stadium in the NFL. No other place resembles the sea of red and im happy to have it back!
Good game Bolts, see yall towards the end of the season.
You guys deserved the win
The crowd was amazing last night and you could see that they really elevated the team, especially in that critical second quarter. That was great to see. Keep it up!
Charles and McCluster are game breakers!
The crowd was incredible. I think homefield advantage was the difference in the game.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Sep 14, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
That's what we were counting on.
Like Joel said, we had no illusions going into this game. You guys are the team to beat in the West and until you get beat consistently, it’s going to be that way.
But this does wonders for our team psyche and momentum. Winning at home, against the division champs in prime time is really going to help us the next two weeks.
Sloppy win or not.
"The dirtier the sound the best I breathe, I tried to do it all for you and you didn't do anything for me"
Definitely.
It’s the primary reason I picked the Chiefs in this game.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Sep 14, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
thani you, Emu ... that's one thing the Chiefs will be counting on (and needing) all year long - crowd support
and they’ll get it, too … when the team is even doing marginally well, the crowd WILL get into the game and be a factor
Dex is our new (not so secret) weapon … we love the guy
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
I'm glad you're a class act.
Best of luck chiefs. Thanks for an exciting opening game. I’m uuuuuber bummed about losing though.
John, take note of his respect! I expect these bets may come often, I hope you represent us just as well as he did the Chiefs.
by Its Mikey!! on Sep 14, 2010 9:50 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
So do we at AP...
Thanks for the complement Mikey. I had a 4 hour drive back home last night after the game…going home with a loss would’ve been awful (been there, done that). I feel your pain.
John had a really classy Q & A post up this week; it made for a good read! So what goes around seems to be coming around.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 14, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
agreed, go-sal ...
Mikey, you guys are class all the way, and thank you! we appreciate it … I feel our Cheifs got (at least a bit) lucky to escape with a win … Rivers is still Rivers, Gates is still Gates … you guys are gonna win a lot of games this year
thanks for the props
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Yep...I can only see two losses in their schedule..
The last one…and the one in December….:)
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
"You Stay Classy San Diego"
I would be super sore if we lost, but you San Diegans are super classy!
November 23, 2006. 1st and only trip to Arrowhead. That was a good day...
by florida chief on Sep 14, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Im Ron Burgundy
November 23, 2006. 1st and only trip to Arrowhead. That was a good day...
by florida chief on Sep 14, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Man
this thread is WAY different from what I’d find in a similar thread on Silver and Black Pride ;)
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
Having sat through the cold wind and the driving rain last night ...
I’ve got to tell you, I think on a dry field or in a less energized stadium, that’s a different ball game.
But, being there in it? In the rain and the wind and the noise? It was amazing.
And, now that it’s all said and done, sure, you might be tied for last place with the Broncos and Raiders right now, but there’s a lot of season left. I look forward to our rematch when it’s for the AFC West crown.
The rain and the wind can either take a crowd out of it or make them even crazier. Luckily for KC, it made them crazier. If that had been a December game, that crowd is probably quiet and/or frozen to death.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 14, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh it was f’n cold out there in the second half. I can only speak for myself, but seeing Dorsey and Jackson finally have a good amount of success with the run D forcing 3rd downs is one of the things that really got me going.
If someone asks you if you want extra mayonnaise you have to say yes, cus that's part of it.
-Jared Allen
by JComp11 on Sep 14, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wreck'd.
Preach it JComp. And the 4+ hour drive home on top of it…LOL.
It was all about that beasty defense and ST in the shitty, shitty weather.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 14, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Cold, sure, but...
wasn’t at the game myself (4.5 hours away from Arrowhead) and I can’t believe the vid of the fireworks display (here). That had to be awesome, cold or not. But Dorsey was as jakked up as I’ve ever seen him!
Jamaal Charles will be the first 2,500-yard rusher in the league. Bank.
by sb_hatchetman on Sep 14, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
omg it was so cold. I tucked my arms in my shirt second half and screamed the whole half.
Couldn’t speak this morning. Kinda hurt me at work cause a lot of my job is done on the phone. :p
But nothing was going to stop the fans on Monday night. Probably 20% went inside for halftime (poor train lol) but by the end of the 3rd the stadium looked packed once again. My wife saw me on tv.
Now, don't get me wrong.
We were definitely frozen. Maybe not as frozen as we are in December, but there were a lot of us there who were expecting lows in the upper 60’s and a little rain after midnight. That storm that kicked up was not really in the forecast and there were a whole heckuva lot of us not dressed for it. And once the rain soaked into your clothes and the wind kicked up? There wasn’t any way to get warm again.
Even so, we weren’t about to let our boys in the red and gold down on Monday Night Football. Around here, we only get a game like this about once a decade. We weren’t about to miss our opportunity to show the rest of America what Arrowhead should sound like.
by JacinB on Sep 14, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've been to a game at Arrowhead in December
and it’s still crazy loud. It was the December 19th, 2004 game against the Donkeys. It was 15 degrees outside with 25mph wind gusts (which equates to about a -5 wind chill). As Chiefs fans we take being loud at games very seriously, especially when the team is winning (See: The 90’s)
"Wow! Eric Berry can do anything!"
John, if Dex has another runback like that in December, eveery fan at Arrowhead will be feeling the heat from it
thanks for being so classy, John … and everyone here at BFTB …
and I do agree with Jacin: dry weather and the Chargers have a far better shot at winning, and likely do
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Disagree...
maybe in year’s past, but this year will be different. You can count on the crowds being just as effective in December of 2010, as we will be playing for the division title and a shot at the playoffs…
2010 Chiefs are on the rise. This is the most excited I've been since 'Nam...
by kcchiefsfan72 on Sep 14, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It did make us crazier
I was prepared had a poncho on but everyone was jumping up and down and waving their shirts around slingin water all over the place….I took my poncho off and joined the party lol
It's really nice
to see classy Chargers fans. I expected to come over here and hear a bunch of whining about why this and that happened. You guys all are truly class acts! Can’t wait til our Chiefs meet you guys again later this year. It will be fun to watch, as always!
Complacency of fools destroys them!
Sorry!
Stay classy San Diego!
Complacency of fools destroys them!
by jscottknoell on Sep 14, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
How upset can you really be after a game like that?
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Sep 14, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well-put.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Sep 14, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
one of the sickest games I've seen in a while!
everyone at my house was standing the last 5 minutes of the 4th qtr.
I think that goes for every fan on both sides of the fence
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
12th Man
Chiefs had it. Well deserved W, classy post.
"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman
by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 14, 2010 10:07 AM PDT reply actions
thanks Brian ... classy comment, Sir
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Ok...your making me queasy now....that's enough compliments. :)
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
Dorsey
Wasn’t Dorsey supposed to be a bust? That guy was very disruptive last night.
Only if you read the rest of the media.
We here in KC have known that he’s been quietly developing into a heckuva player and has actually been one of the brighter spots on our defensive line the past couple years.
Yes
but only for the first 14 games of his rookie season.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Sep 14, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
No, that's Tyson Jackson.
Okay, that’s Tyson Jackson, too.
Either way, as Sudden pointed out, 5-techs never get as much credit as they should on the defensive line because they’re not there to rack up sacks and get pressures. If they do that, that’s a bonus. Their main job is to tie up linemen and demand double-teams so that the other guys (like Tamba Hali) can rack up sacks and get pressures.
You guys run a 3-4
you know as well as us that any 5-technique is never going to get the credit he’s due.
...And as the roar of 80,000 red-clad great plains warriors fills the hallowed halls of Arrowhead, it will strike fear into the hearts of lesser men. For on that field, individual men toil for something greater than individual honors. They toil as brothers-in-arms, as 53 spirits striving towards a single purpose and driven by a single goal: The glory that comes with vanquishing your foes. They will achieve their birthright, they will be champions.
Thanks for the head's up(s)
Not really paying attention to the ins and outs of the Chiefs, I was admittedly beholden to what the mostly moronic national guys are saying. And yep, I know all about the knock on 3-4 DE’s.
Dorsey was definitely eating up single teams last night and knifed though a number of double teams as well.
and DJ, another "bust" ... all preseason we'd discuss (and cuss) DJ over at AP
would he start? should he start? was he half as good as Demorrio Williams? would he and could he “get it together” and play the kind of game he was drafted to play?
he answered that last night …
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
yep
as you said earlier it is shocking, truly. I totally hope he keeps up that effort. The wonders of a contract year I guess.
22.
and conditioning, and understanding the system, and better play by Front 3 annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd Romeo
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
3 Long Months before the next match
Thats a lot of down time.
by Superduperboltman on Sep 14, 2010 10:20 AM PDT reply actions
I know you guys secretly wanted the overtime
so you could re-live Tamarick Vanover’s punt return TD on monday night 15 years ago, except this time by Javier Arenas.
...And as the roar of 80,000 red-clad great plains warriors fills the hallowed halls of Arrowhead, it will strike fear into the hearts of lesser men. For on that field, individual men toil for something greater than individual honors. They toil as brothers-in-arms, as 53 spirits striving towards a single purpose and driven by a single goal: The glory that comes with vanquishing your foes. They will achieve their birthright, they will be champions.
by Sudden on Sep 14, 2010 10:35 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
God I would have loved to see Arenas return one.
I think he’s a better return man than McCluster, and you saw what McCluster did.
"Wow! Eric Berry can do anything!"
I’m curious to see what they do against a competent coverage unit.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Sep 14, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
ok ok a little dig there, but thats ok.
I GUARANTEE that Arenas is the best return man that KC has ever had. The man has eyes in the back of his head. Hall was good but he tried to do to much and always tried to get to the corner and got hit for a loss often. Arenas doesn’t do that. He knows how to hit gaps in the middle. He will have the highest return average this year in the NFL. Hell teams won’t even kick to him after this game and that says a lot when you won’t kick to a rookie after 1 game.
Did the Chiefs special team coverage unit turn from worst to first over night? No. They are better but 90% of this is Arenas and McCluster. If Studebaker had made a block then Arenas would have had a touchdown as well as McCluster and he really just is a better return man.
Not at all.
The Chiefs return game was very impressive, but our coverage teams suck. I was just curious which was the bigger factor in the insane game turned in by your Chiefs.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Sep 20, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Good game, Bolts fans
I hope to see as good a return match come Dec. Maybe this sparks a little rivalry in the division, and it would be good for the AFC West become a nightmare for the other divisions to play in, wouldn’t it?
Needs for 2010:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker
Safety
by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 14, 2010 10:37 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
rec's and one more to add ...
thanks for being classy, Chargers fans
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Man, Arrowhead Pride is really buzzing
with 16+ headlines up since the game! Puts us to shame I’m afraid…
by Chilango on Sep 14, 2010 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
thing is, AP is ALWAYS like that ... Joel and Chris and Jon Yoon and Matt Conner and others we have ...
… not to mention the rest of us who post … and the Fanshots … we really like to think we’re the most knowledgable fans around (well, some of us are … me, I just like the games and the cameraderie, I really have no idea what football itself is)
thanks for a great game and some classy comments
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Agreed....loads of talent and football knowledge on AP.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle............victorious. ~Vince Lombardi
one thing to add: at AP we are spoiled, and we know it ... no disrespect to John or anyone on any other site, but we are spoiled rotten with the most and the best
(Joel, you can send me that check anytime now)
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Agreed
I wish I had the time to dedicate to BFTB that Joel is able to put in at AP.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Sep 14, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Same
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Luckily for Joel
AP actually IS his day job.
Snap the f*cking ball, Brodie.
by scottbwalters on Sep 15, 2010 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions
That's right. And rec'd.
We (Chiefs fans) always have something new to read about. The AP guys plow out great content about a half-million times a day (@ least lately) and the bloggers and fan-posters are on top of it too. New-ish to AP and totally new to here…but you are right, Chilango…right as rain.
Jamaal Charles will be the first 2,500-yard rusher in the league. Bank.
by sb_hatchetman on Sep 14, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Good game, you guys whooped us
Gaslamp Ball Game OT: "Makes you happy in the pants"
"Even Jedis don't stand a chance against our bullpen."
no, we had a couple of super runs and were aided by the weatherman and the 12th Man in the stands
but it WAS a good game … Chargers still have one helluva good team
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
by upamtn on Sep 14, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
It was nice to see the return of the stadium to the old days, when teams had to game plan around the loudest crowd in the NFL.
Needs for 2010:
O-line
D-line
Linebacker
Safety
by Bleedingredandgold on Sep 14, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Congrats Chiefs Fans
Awesome win for you guys, I’ve almost become numb to the Bolts slow starts but that’s not taking anything away from your team. The 12th man definitely deserves a game ball.
Haha just reading through all these comments
For the most part, it seems like everyone is high fiving and showing great sportsmanship. I guess that’s a sign of a great game. Yes?
by Its Mikey!! on Sep 14, 2010 11:55 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
it is funny
a huge group hug – but that’s awesome, way better than bashing each other. Heck this post is friendlier than our interAP discussions!
22.
Mikey, amen to that ... a few weeks ago I got tired of seeing APers bash not just each other, but other teams (some, not all of AP)
and so did a whole post on sportsmanship … this post is IT … class comments by class people, and even though the Chargers lost, you fans are winners in my book!
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
Yaaaay!!!
Let’s all be best friends. Next time you guys can come visit us in San Diego!!
Haha. Way more entertaining talking to you intelligent fans than the ignorant ones.
by Its Mikey!! on Sep 15, 2010 1:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Outstanding game last night.
and thanks to John for bringing us over at AP some great info on the Chargers over the weekend.
I knew it would be a great game and believe me, I’m not looking forward to the Dec game. Qualcom is always a tough venue to play in. Best of luck until then.
2010 Prediction: Chiefs go 10-6 and make playoffs
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by giftedchiefsfan on Sep 14, 2010 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
makes this game a lot easier to swallow
when the fans are so classy and gracious in a win. nicely done Joel.
Life is like riding a bicycle, to keep your balance, you must keep moving.-Einstein
he has us well-trained, doesn't he?
"I shall conquer untruth by truth" - Mahatma Gandhi
"It's always easier to sell 'em some shit than it is to give 'em the truth" - Shel Silverstein, The Perfect High
Come back, Jason!
hi, Mo! 5 minutes!!!
hahaha
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Sep 14, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
after watching w 1
i see a lot of poeintal upsets meatdows MINN SF this looks to be a wacky year
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you took it way to easy on them.
MannyTheTorpedoes: the dotcher place me on wavers
/waves at passing car
Joel
Thanks for being kind to us on your winning post. I think you’ve been pretty fair in your assessments of the game all week. You needed a few big plays from your young players and you got them. You needed help from the fans and you got that. You needed your defense to make a few plays, and they did.
I’m proud of the way Rivers fought back. He’s an awesome QB and he just keeps getting better. Punt coverage unit, not so much. Both offenses had tough sledding on that field and that’s why football is a great sport. You never know who can win on any given… Monday.
by SDreal on Sep 14, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Great Game SD
We have one more game between us, but I’ll sure as hell be rooting for you when you play the Broncs and the Raiders!
Chiefs Will
We have to do this bet again
I need to win so that I can write the story about the 1 week I was a Chiefs fan. It’s a long and hilarious story.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
Hope for a Chargers win, and that Joel’s willing to take the same bet, in December.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Sep 14, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Never do this again, John.
It’s a jinx. I’ve seen a lot of bets like this, and the Chargers backer has lost them all.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 14, 2010 6:33 PM PDT reply actions
I was thinking this seconds after the Chargers lost.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Sep 14, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Joel
You went easy on us. Classy post. Congratulations on the win. If I were a Chiefs fan, I would be pretty stoked too.
Time will tell whether this is a springboard for the Chiefs or a fleeting game in the night. But the Chiefs are improved, and they deserved to win the game (at least in the sense that the Chargers certainly didn’t deserve to win it).
by HuangDi on Sep 14, 2010 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 15, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
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