Pacstud's Chargers O-Line Analysis: Saints (All Starters plays)
by pacstud on Aug 30, 2010 6:32 AM PDT
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Chargers Pre-Season Week 3
Opponent: New Orleans Saints
Date: August 27, 2010
Drive 1
1. 1-10; -18
22 Gun Lt.
61 Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Saints send seven, we have six to block. Rivers "picks up" the extra blitzer by throwing to his zone. Perfect.
2. 2-3; -25
Texas Rt. H-Flanker
26 Iso
LT-1.5; LG-1.5; C-1.5; RG-1.5; RT-1.5
Everyone does ok. But no one gets their block completely. Hester has to chip Vasquez’s guy and is late to the Sam. Not bad overall.
3. 1-10; -30
Pro Rt. Strong
26 Power
LT-1; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Dombo struggles to finish his block. Gates needs to get the scraping DT. Legs can’t get the safety.
4. 2-8; -32
Ace H-Flanker
726 PA Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Very good all around.
5. 1-10; -40
Blue Twins Lt.
61 Pro
LT-1; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Saints send six. Dombo is too slow on the switch and gives up a pressure.
6. 2-10; -40
22 Gun Rt.
50 Pro
LT-.5; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Dombo is off to a rough start and gives up another pressure.
7. 3-1; -49
Texas Rt. H-Flanker
29 Pitch
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
If Wilson can get the Mike this may have gone for more, maybe house. TDEK is TDEK.
8. 1-10; 34
Pro Twins Rt.
723 PA Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Saints send six, TDEK misses the DE.
9. 2-6; 30
Pro Lt. Twins Rt. SB
70 Pro
LT-0; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
I don’t know if Dombo is lost, but I can’t see a reason for him not to pick up the five. I reserve the right to be wrong (if it’s gap protection inside?) but I don’t like it. TDEK makes a nice p/u.
10. 1-10; 15
Pro Twins Rt.
24 Iso
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Hester does well. Dombo does well. Very good all around.
11. 2-5; 10
Pro Twins Lt.
25 Iso
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-1; RT-2
Vasquez can’t get to his LB, but the LB gets caught in the wash. Hester has literally his best block ever. Squares up, leads with the facemask, and earns a pancake. WOW!
12. 3-1; 6
Texas Lt. H-Flanker
33 Dive
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Dombo is amazing on this play, as is the rest of the line. Smash mouth GET YOU SOME! Congrats to Hester for the home state TD.
Drive 2
13. 1-10; -45
Pro Rt. Twins Lt. SB
28 G Stretch
New Play!
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Hardwick and Vasquez do very well. 80 can’t get inside the DB and GMP. Nice seal from 81.
14. 2-10; -45
Pro Wing Rt.
25 Iso
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Wow. Hardwick and Vasquez roll, and Clary looks awesome. If Wilson can get the safety, house? Hester doesn’t get the Sam because the Sam runs himself out of the play…go get someone else Jacob.
15. 3-4; 49
Blue Twins Rt.
61 Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Very good from Dombo. I don’t like to critique Rivers, but he has Legs on a drag and Wilson uncovered in the flat.
Drive 3
16. 1-10; -20
Pro Lt. Y-Flanker
724 PA Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Very good.
17. 2-10; -20
Pro Wing Rt. Y-Up Twins Lt. SB
28 Toss
LT-2; LG-2; C-1; RG-2; RT-2
A little confusion here on my part. We know both tackles do very well. We know Hardwick misses the Will. We know Vilma makes one hell of a play. Question: Who had the Mike (Vilma)? Was Wilson supposed to pick him up (I think so)? The only other option would be Vasquez pulling around Wilson to get the Mike. I’ll try and find out. Vasquez’s footwork doesn’t look like he’s even thinking of pulling, so if it was him, he didn’t know it.
18. 3-14; -16
Blue Twins Lt.
50 Pro
LT-1.5; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Good overall. Dombo gives up slight pressure.
19. 1-10; -36
Pro Rt. Twins Lt. Y-Flanker SB
725 PA Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Pretty good.
20. 2-10; -36
Ace Wide* - Denotes essentially a 2 X 2 spread with QB under center.
61 Pro (Gap)
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
21. 3-5; -41
22 Gun Rt.
60 Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Nice switch from both the left and the right side. Textbook.
Drive 4
22. 1-10; -24
Pro Twins Rt.
24 Iso
LT-2; LG-1.5; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Dielman does well but can’t quite stay on the Will. Hester and Wilson do well. The unblocked (by design) backside LB makes the play.
23. 2-9; -25
22 Gun Rt.
60 Pro
LT-1.5; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Dombo does well, but gets beat at the very end. Minute pressure. A savvy hold/tug though.
24. 1-10; -34
22 Gun Rt.
60 Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Saints bring 5.5, and we pick it all up very well.
25. 1-10; -48
Pro Rt. Strong
724 PA Pro
LT-2; LG-1; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Saints bring 6. Dielman gives up a pressure.
26. 1-10; 23
Pro Twins Rt. Weak Y-Open
RB Screen Rt.
LT-2; LG-1; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Another head scratcher. The RG is always involved in our screens, yet Vasquez stays home. Usually he would be leading out there for the kick out. His actions are secure, but I have questions. Conversely, the BS guard is always peel back. Now Dielman angles towards the Will and ends up getting a peel back on a lineman, but was the Will his assignment? I dock Dielman based only on action. I think this may have actually been a screw up by Vasquez (If he’s in on the screen, then Hardwick could have gotten the Will).
27. 2-4; 17
Pro Twins Lt.
28 G-Lead
LT-2; LG-2; C-1; RG-2; RT-2
Hester can’t handle Vilma. Hardwick can’t get off the double team to the Will, and his GMP. Vasquez pulls around for Sharper. Clary does very well.
28. 3-5; 18
22 Gun Lt.
61 Pro
LT-2; LG-1.5; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Dielman needs to get more depth so the DT can’t split the switch. Dombo does well and Clary does very well.
29. 1-G; 10
Pro Wing Rt. F-Tight Wing*
New formation. Unbalanced with FB lining up outside the Wing. Essentially Y-Trips Tight SB.
26 Power
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Vasquez and Clary have a great double team to the Will. Dielman has to get the Sam, because McMichael misses him (falls). Therefore, the Mike is unblocked and makes the play. Wilson does very well. Gates is Gates.
30. 2-G; 9
22 Gun Lt.
61 Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-1; RT-2
Saints send 6. Sproles simply has to get the LB here. This one’s on him. Vasquez falls and can’t pick up the switch. Dielman does NOT have the blitzing LB, but he is ready if a second LB enters (he’s counting on Sproles).
31. 3-G; 9
31 Gun Rt.
50 Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-1.5
Clary gives up slight pressure.
Drive 5
32. 1-10; -48
Y-Trips Rt. Open Lt. SB
23 Zone
LT-2; LG-2; C-1.5; RG-2; RT-2
Hardwick can’t get into his guy. Wilson doesn’t get his guy.
33. 2-7; 49
22 Gun Lt.
50 Pro
LT-0; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Dombo gives up the inside so bad, I get confused. Is this by design? Is he expecting help? Is he making sure that the outside is free for Sproles? I reserve the right to absolve Dombo, but as of now he gets beat inside badly.
34. 3-3; 45
Y-Trips Rt. Open Lt. SB
60 Pro (Quick)
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Very silly high/low from Hardwick.
Drive 6
35. 1-10; -15
22 Gun Lt.
20 Draw
LT-2; LG-1; C-1; RG-2; RT-2
Dielman can’t hook and seal the DT and his GMP. Hardwick should at least shove or help a little before he leaves, and then he misses the Mike.
End of 1st Half
Drive 7
36. 1-10; -30
Pro Lt.
26 Iso
LT-2; LG-2; C-.5; RG-1.5; RT-2
The left side double of Dombo and Diel execute a nasty double team to the LB. Enjoyable to watch! Hardwick engages but gets shed way too easy. Perhaps Vasquez could have stayed a tad longer on the double, but he does well with the Mike. Clary looks good on this one.
37. 2-10; -30
Blue Twins Lt.
61 Pro
LT-1.5; LG-2; C-1.5; RG-2; RT-1.5
Saints send 6. Dombo switches late to Vilma, but gets the job done. Hardwick and Clary both give up late pressures.
38. 3-10; -30
22 Gun Lt.
61 Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-.5; RT-2
Saints send 7. Hardwick and Clary do very well. Vasquez makes a decent handoff, but misses the switch completely.
Drive 8
39. 1-10; -24
Pro Lt. Weak Y-Up
724 PA Pro
LT-.5; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Even though he grades out low, I really don’t think Dombo does a bad job here. He washes nine yards upfield. I guess he needs to wash more. I may comment that Rivers could have helped him with a step up.
40. 2-10; -24
Ace H-Flanker
726 PA Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Easy. Our PA look so good sometimes.
41. 1-10; -39
Pro Rt.
27 Iso
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-1; RT-2
Dielman and Hardwick double to Mike, very well. Vasquez and Clary double to Will. The double is good but Vasquez misses the Will and his GMP. Hester does well.
42. 2-5; -44
Pro Rt. Weak
61 Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Saints send 6. We pick it up just fine.
43. 3-2; -47
22 Gun Rt.
70 Pro
LT-2; LG-2; C-2; RG-2; RT-2
Saints send 6 again. We pick it up easily. On a related side note, Sproles pass protection is very good.
End of starters
I will not be breaking down the back-ups, sorry. I watched a couple more drives to look at Green. He is pretty good and consistent, but Dombo is clearly better. I do feel ok if Green is called upon.
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Cool.
You have Dombo at just under 1.75 against the Saints, over 1.9 against the ‘Boys in the first half, and 2.0 in nine preseason snaps against the Bears, for a total average in the 1.8 range. That’s about where you had MM last year, no?
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 30, 2010 8:25 AM PDT reply actions
Dombo
It should also be noted he has faced arguably THE best defensive player in the game, and three top notch rush ends (Peppers, Ware, Smith). He has more than held his own.
He was not so hot out of the gates on Friday, but settled in and played well.
When all else fails....
run Iso!
And really only two busted plays for the LT in the first half
Not too shabby. Plus NO threw blitzes almost every play, so it was a nice challege.
We should be greatful for the blitzing in a preseason game. So often (like Rivera did last week) teams elect to give you the “vanilla look”. Maybe NO kept some defensive formations back, but they gave pressure on just about every play. I think that has to help our O Line prepare for real life. Thank you Saints.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 30, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Gregg Williams
Can be counted on for one thing…
Ladi dadi bring everybody.
That’s all he does, is blitz, blitz, blitz…
that’s why their defense is feast or famine. They’ll make plays but give up a ton of yards and points.
When all else fails....
run Iso!
Dombo on Hester's TD
Dombo was AWESOME on that play. That was his TD. If I recall correctly he was literally holding his block whilst laying on the ground with a guy falling on his back. That’s the kind of physical knock-em-back football that was missing in run game last year.
by Robo65 on Aug 30, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
interesting
qualitatively, it feels like (and your numbers confirm?) that we have an above average line, but definately not a dominant line. We have some young guys in key positions who are going to make bonehead plays (dombro and vasquez) and Clary who can hold his own against 80% of the league but will get used by the other 20%.
I guess as long as Rivers stays healthy it will work out. Although sometimes I find myself wondering about how much better life would be if MM was at LT and Dombro and Clary were fighting it out for RT. I think we would be much closer to a consistent and almost dominant line.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Aug 30, 2010 9:41 AM PDT reply actions
grades
I don’t have the time to excel these numbers, though last year I did. I try to stay consistent with my rubric, though I may be a tad more critical this year. As for comparative analysis, I would have to grade another O-line. I think we are above average to very good, but not dominant (what he said).
Dombo at RT is a tough one. I think our run game is better with them both in (Dombo at LT and Clary at RT) and I think in pass pro those two are about the same (Dombo looks better at LT than he did at RT last year though). So the net overall is a gain with Dombo and Clary playing imo.
Of course, every time Rivers gets sacked, regardless of who screws up…we’ll hear the war cries of “SING MM!”
When all else fails....
run Iso!
by pacstud on Aug 30, 2010 10:23 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
even with the typo
it gets rec’d, cause I agree with everything said.
Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.
by John Gennaro on Aug 30, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
If it helps any, I’ll sing “sign mm”
by Its Mikey!! on Aug 30, 2010 11:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
In D-flat, of course.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 30, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
What, nobody here see sharp enough to get it? As in “flat defender”? Fine.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen;
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 30, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I just didn’t have anything to add.
Bolts from the Blue // "Sometimes you would get the sense that people felt bigger than the team," Gates said. "Not to say it was an issue, but we know it’s not an issue for sure now."
Bloody Elbow // "I'm not Dog the Bounty Hunter, I don't issue apologies. And you're not going to be the first one to get one out of me." - Chael Sonnen
by Richard Wade on Aug 30, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be totally awesome
if you could have sort of a summary at the end, where you give your impression of how each player did overall.
by Zach (maestro876) on Aug 30, 2010 11:37 AM PDT reply actions
As you command
Although I struggle to say anything other than “so and so played well, with a few mistakes”
Coachspeak doesn’t die easily.
When all else fails....
run Iso!
by pacstud on Aug 30, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
PacStud Glossary
PacStud is my hero for these analyses. This is the part of the game that nobody talks about but that often determine how a season ends up. That said, I don’t know what all PacStud’s abbreviations mean. Need a PacStud dictionary.
You guys
Can call him whatever you want…he will always be TDEK to me.
Pronounced (Tee-deck)
Just too cool imo. I can’t lie, I love the mystery too. People wonder and have to ask what it means. I like that.
When all else fails....
run Iso!
by pacstud on Aug 30, 2010 6:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm on board.
TPRM and TDEK.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen;
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 30, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
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