Chargers Defeat Bears, are Super Bowl Bound!
by John Gennaro on Aug 14, 2010 9:30 PM PDT
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Okay fine, maybe it was just a preseason game, but that's about as well as a preseason game can go these days. The Chargers won 25-10, putting up points in every quarter of the game while helping the Bears to zero points in the second half. The Chargers rushed more in the first half than the Bears did all game and also out-passed them.
A quick run-down of the highlights.
- Zero injuries. At least none reported. Nobody stopping the action to get up slowly . Rivers' cheekbones looked to be in mid-season form with all the smiling on the sideline.
- Ryan Mathews may or may not be the greatest Chargers RB of all time, but he definitely is. I've been saying this for two weeks now, people! He finished with 50 yards on 9 carries and had the longest run of the night (18 yds).
- The offensive line looked very good, despite Jeromey Clary trying to give himself a challenge by getting called for false starts every other play. The run blocking was terrific and no pass-rusher even got to see Philip Rivers from closer than 5 feet. They really wanted to.
- In an interview with the Bears broadcast team (Uggghhh), Julius Peppers said that the Chargers' passing game was "very quick" and because of that they had no reason to put two blockers on him. In a nutshell, he said "You could've left me unblocked and I still wouldn't have had a sack." Ball's in your court, Mr. Marcus McNeill.
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Applewhite
Antwan Applewhite really impressed me. Our D-line was a lot better than i thought it would be and our secondary was worse. Maybe they just had a bad night.
Where all your starters in at LB?
If not then they may make your secondary look a lot better when they play.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 14, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
Merriman and English were out. The pass rush likely suffered.
"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
by aesimpleton on Aug 14, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks
and I should mention that I can usually tell when to use ‘were’ vs ‘where’ but apparently not when I was typing up that question.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 16, 2010 5:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Garay was awesome
McNeil sucked badly.
Mathews was great; your statement to that effect above was confusing.
Rivers ought to take the next three weeks off.
Spillman is an angry, angry man. And I like that.
DB blitzes ARE our pass rush. Spillman is happy.
Julius Peppers sounds like an idiot. But I wouldn’t say that to his face.
Lang is a beast but I want to see it again before I buy in.
Billy Latsko lead the team in receiving yards. Heh.
"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
Mathews was great; your statement to that effect above was confusing.
I thought it was funny.
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by Richard Wade on Aug 14, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely
"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
by aesimpleton on Aug 14, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
"Spillman is an angry, angry man. And I like that."
Captain Insano shows no mercy
by ridethelightning on Aug 15, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
DAMMIT
Buster Davis left game with hip pointer — ka
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"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
by aesimpleton on Aug 14, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats the Buster Davis that we have come to love.
He would be a stellar threat if he could go longer than three snaps without getting injured. He has a serious case of the Bob Sanders syndrome
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Dont want to say I called it...
But I called it in the game thread. He came up a little gimpy after that punt return
Not really surprising
Now we need AJ to audition people for an open receiver spot in the roster. Hopefully it will turn as well as with the DL players last year
I believe they have already been auditioning...
Their names are Ajirotutu, Banks, Goodman, and Williams
Williams left some room for the other guys
And Seyi did well. Banks was OK with a very good play and a very bad one. Goodman had the kick return and that’s about it.
"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
by aesimpleton on Aug 14, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
“Hip pointer” is usually a day or two. Not like his career/season is over.
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by John Gennaro on Aug 14, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The trouble is
He can’t stay on the field.
"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
by aesimpleton on Aug 14, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You clearly are not high-strung enough to be a Chargers fan.
Hip Pointer!!?? PANIC!
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And we need to switch to the ....
…well you know.
I just don’t want to get banned for saying it.
If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong
by Diesel85 on Aug 14, 2010 10:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
CUT CLARY!
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by John Gennaro on Aug 14, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The D-line blew me (and the Bear's o-line) away this week.
They created immediate pressure on nearly every snap! As you said John, Garay decided to turn into a beast all of the sudden, and I love it!
I wonder if there is some bitterness between Rivera and the Bears. Perhaps that is part of the reason that he called so many blitzes…
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by CaDuck on Aug 14, 2010 10:04 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I wondered about possible bitterness as well
Can’t say I like the idea of not blitzing in the preseason – need to get some practice in :)
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This ^^^^^
The whole line was amazing. I’m dying to see the Bears YPC. They couldn’t run at all. And Lang is for real, this guy was a DE, he’s playing out of his mind.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Aug 15, 2010 12:44 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
2.3 YPC
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by John Gennaro on Aug 15, 2010 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I liked the D Line play too
But was it the Bear’s O-Line, or have they gotten better since this time last year?
It sure does seem like we have some solid depth. Thomas is thick and nasty. I like Martin’s improvements – great leverage! I just hope the good DL play carries through to that Monday night game in KC.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 15, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Great game
Bolts looked solid all around
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Why did Norv let CBD anywhere near a punt
I could have told you that wouldn’t have gone well. I’m actually seriously pissed about this.
by bstew95 on Aug 15, 2010 12:43 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
So instead
he should try to shield his player from contact only to have him go down during the regular season?
Football players have to deal with contact. WR’s are gonna get hit whether they are fielding punts or not…
Buster needs some toughening up anyway.
Though I wouldn’t start him at PR… he can be the backup. If he makes a few plays then gets hurt badly, well, that’s pretty much the same football outcome as keeping him on the bench.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
They should lateral to him on every punt
Let someone else take the hit….maybe a big ass linebacker. He can catch the ball, flip it to CBD and then block for him.
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by Mad_Villain on Aug 15, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope you’re not serious.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
He IS the backup.
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by John Gennaro on Aug 15, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
...
Isn’t that the entire point of preseason?
by Its Mikey!! on Aug 16, 2010 10:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
this
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by John Gennaro on Aug 16, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, maybe at least he'll know when
to call for a fair catch.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Fish or cut bait
CBD needs to show he can do it. If now right now then when?
by Trendsearcher on Aug 15, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
How about we give him to the end of his contract….
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by John Gennaro on Aug 16, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
We could...
… but the convention on WRs is that they ussually hit their stride by the third season. In his injury plauged fourth year the read on Buster isn’t that good. Basically he’s stolen a rooster spot for the last three years. Healthy, he is probably good enough to make this year’s cut. And maybe he’ll be a late bloomer, who knows.
But if multiple young guys start to show up, do you expose one of them to keep CBD around?
And I think CBD’s contract works against him too, relative to the UDFA’s competing for the same job (holding down the trainer’s table).
by Trendsearcher on Aug 16, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
So you're ready to give up on him before he's even had a fair shot?
"Don’t get nervous. Norv is in charge."
Well....
We gave up on Gartrell Johnson last seaon before he got his shot. I kinda feel like Buster might have gotten his spot. It looks like Johnson is on the bubble with NYG so maybe that is not a bad thing.
If we put someone like Seyi Ajirotutu or Jeremy Williams on the practice squad this year, I believe they will get nabbed too. Maybe those young guys aren’t all that. I don’t know, and we have a very limited time to gage it.
So for me it not some much about not giving CBD his fair shot. He’s had 3 solid years of shots. It’s more about the alternates we forego. Hard choices for sure.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 16, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
gartrell wasnt a 1st round pick
thats roughly the same as saying they gave up on wes welker and trent green, both of whom had even shorter stints on the team than gartrell
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Aug 17, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Given that AJ seems to find starters deep in the draft and with UDFAs
I kind of discount the value of a #1 pick. Particularly if he’s had three seasons and accomplished nothing.
Yes I believe high draft choices are important. But once the #1 choice is on the team, I see him as equivalent to the other players until his production says otherwise. Right now I see CBD’s value as equal to (or less than) any of the UDFA receivers in camp.
We know Buster has durability issues, and we know he costs more.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 17, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
cam thomas
looked really good (albeit it was against second stringers) he had a sack and he pressured the bears Qb to throw a pick to oliver
Life is like riding a bicycle, to keep your balance, you must keep moving.-Einstein
I thought this as well,
During the game (had to watch most of it at 9:30 p.m, stupid blackout rules), I re-wound many of the plays looking at Cam Thomas, and much of the time the lineman blocking him would be flattened at some point and Thomas would be able to find his way to the ball. He looked very disruptive out there.
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Thanks John
Won’t get to see the game until tonight at 10pm EST on NFLN. Sounds like most of our guys had pretty good performances with the exception of Crompton. He’s gonna ned quite a bit of coaching up after the clusterf#%@k situation that he came from at TN.
Glad there were no serious injuries. Best news of all.
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Actually
I over-reacted to Crompton a bit. He panicked in the face of a heavy pass-rush and threw an easy pick, but take out that pass and he was 6-10 for 81 yards. Also, he threw a gorgeous deep pass to Jeremy Williams that the WR missed (he says it bounced off his facemask) that was a sure-fire TD. In reality, Crompton was as good as Whitehurst usually was when he came in in years past. I still love his potential.
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by John Gennaro on Aug 15, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was a nice pass to Banks too
He really threaded the needle on the 4th down(?) pass. He clearly needs to improve his decision making, but you can see what they saw in him.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Aug 15, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
i loved seeing him
avoid the rush on the play before the int! nicely done!
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Aug 15, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Not denying that he may be where Whitey was at this point
I’m just going to stick with water vs. kool-aid for now.
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by Buck Melanoma on Aug 15, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus looked pretty good himself last night, so I hear.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
On Cromton's pick
… it kinda looked like the receiver stumbled.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 15, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually think the situation in TN
makes him more coachable. He learned so many different offenses while he was there that he probably is somewhat familiar with more things at this level than he would have been if he was stuck in a spread offense for 4 years.
Never said
whether he’s more or less coachable, only that he came from a bad situation where he played under 3 (maybe 4?) different OC’s & had to weather the Lane Kiffin BS.
He has potential but needs a steady hand on the helm.
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by Buck Melanoma on Aug 15, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what she said.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Regarding Rivera
On the radio broadcast, Bauer made the point that he might have been sending a message to Chicago and Lovie Smith for firing him, which was the reason for all the blitzing.
As great as that sounds, I bet Rivera was just trying to give every player the chance to show what he could do in the actual defense. There will be some hard cuts to make on that side of the ball, so they need as much realistic game film as possible.
Whatever.
I mean, the Bears fired him, and thirty other teams have jerked his chain at one point or another when hiring their HC by interviewing him with no intention of picking him up.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Broncos Fan - Don't shoot Please
Nice to see you guys doing well without your holdouts. I love the hardline stance. These Players need to take a team approach. Good luck this season. Thanks for beating Cutler’s Bears.
You guys will be tough to beat. Please make sure you beat the AFC West teams (except the Broncos)
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by scottwchicago on Aug 15, 2010 6:46 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I have to admit
It’s hard to read this and not think “Hey plz don’t bring those awesome holdout guys in plzplzplz”
Even if you said it in like the nicest possible way. Good luck (that is, no injuries) to you guys too!
scottwchicago- Thanks for the nice comment
I did not see the game as I live in Oregon. Sorry, but our goal is to beat every team in the NFL on our way to the Super-Bowl (including the Broncos.)
Way to go Chargers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by iliketowinallthetime on Aug 15, 2010 7:53 AM PDT reply actions
Why do we always have opposing team's fans posting on our site?
Is it because the are envious, jealous, bored or just plain “Don’t have a life?” I never go to they’re teams website.
Just sayin,
YO
by iliketowinallthetime on Aug 15, 2010 8:02 AM PDT reply actions
I actually
really enjoy having other team fans come here to post. I know that we “charger fans” always want the best for our team, and our opinions about things have a tendency to be slightly high biased or dramatically world ending low. So it’s nice to think what competitors think.
by ArksnBolts on Aug 15, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I Agree
They bring a different perspective.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Aug 15, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
as long as they are polite
well mannered and respectful, it shouldn’t be an issue.
In my case I am very interested in Vaughn Martin and want to see how he and his team does. It also allows me to learn more about one of the top teams in my team’s conference.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 16, 2010 5:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw big improvement in Martin
No balance issues at all compared to last year. I though he showed good leverage. In the 4th qtr he was rotating NT/DE with Cam Thomas. At NT he got really good pushes up the feild. At DE his edge rush was not super fast, but I though he looked strong.
Not to says he’s anywhere near as good, but his DE play kinda reminded me of Reggie White – lots of strength and size. I think Martin has some upside.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 16, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Great news
How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Aug 16, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Clipboard Jesus no longer!
14 for 22, 2 TD, 1 INT
You may now refer to him by his new title: Future Starter Jesus.
Or use John’s title for him: Dreamy.
I love my team of historically talented underachievers.
by DoubleViking on Aug 15, 2010 9:37 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Great Site!
Charger Fan since ‘73 who now resides in Texas on board with this forum, will see y’all later during the season! Go Bolts
Glad to have you
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by John Gennaro on Aug 15, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Where was Floyd?
Can’t find his name anywhere in the box score and I don’t remember seeing him or hearing anything about him last night.
Did he start and then come out when Rivers did? Since he was probably only in for a series or two I’m not going to hold it against him that he didn’t have a catch… just wondering, really.
COVERED.
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by John Gennaro on Aug 15, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure the team was as concerned with finding out what Floyd can do in the first couple series as they were with Naanee and CBD. Floyd’s disappearance in the game last night does not worry me in any way.
Exactly this
Focus on Floyd and ignore CBD or Naanee, they’ll burn you. Focus on the WRs, and Gates will burn you.
Plenty of receiving weapons on this team, even without VJ.
"Don’t get nervous. Norv is in charge."
The offense will score a ton of points
again this season, so I am not in any form of panic mode. Its only one pre season game so I think getting to excited, or down, about the group of WRs is a bit of an early reaction. But I am surprised how pumped everyone is about the play of our WRs, at the end of 3 quarters of play the Chargers WRs had a total of 3 receptions. Not trying to rain on a parade, loved Mathews, loved the D-Line play, just think that the jury is still out on the group of wide outs.
Thanks to everyone...
…for the recap and analysis.
The game was not on in my area. I was only able to catch parts of the 1st half of the Game Thread last night.
Happy the 1st team offense did well w\o Marcus and VJ. Was hoping to hear good things about Floyd. Excited Mathews.
Pleasantly surprised by the praise the defense got. Garay, Boone, and Lang? Really? Let’s see if their good play continues. And you guys got me excited to actually watch Spillman play….I mean HIT somebody….I mean HIT somebody very hard…..I mean HIT somebody very hard angerily….I mean…. well, you know what I mean :)
Went to the zoo wearing my Naanee jersey yesterday...
out-of-towners wanted to know who he is. I said, “You’ll know very well by the end of the season.”
Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.
Excellent
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by John Gennaro on Aug 15, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
thats a beautiful purchase.
Im from Canada, eh
by jordanmowbray on Aug 15, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
its so hard for me to remember
its just one preseason game… just one preseason game…
I’m so excited to get sacks again, but the bears o-line isn’t the best. A long way from it. I’M SO HAPPY FOR FOOTBALL!!!
Don’t take anything at all about pass rush from this game. The starting pass-rushers sat out.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, we totally shut down their run game: Forte got hosed over and over, despite Cutler’s passing success (with the Lights out, at any rate). When was the last time you saw that?
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
This is shaping up to be a good year
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 1:03 PM PDT reply actions
My only concern is that most of the successful Mathews action
was 4x starting OL late in the first half, presumably a mix of first-and-second-string players.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 15, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Loved the way Mathews ran
he was quicker and tougher than I expected. Was pretty impressed with the D Line play as well.
The only thing I didn’t like was the first (and only) drive that Chicago’s first team offense was in the game for, they drove straight down and put points on the board.
Overall it was all you could hope for in week one of the pre season.
NICELY PUT!
He’s like a cyborg sent back in time with the goal of hitting players ridiculously hard.
Mathews was awesome
It’s so refreshing to have a running back not go down after being brushed by a defender. Heck, he got hit head on and still kept going. It’s been a while since I’ve seen that on our team.
Mathews looked legit
I liked how aggressively he ran with the football. Even with defenders on him, he kept churning his legs and lowering his head.
Hope he gets a little more patient and waits for his blocks to develop, so he doesn’t run into pulling lineman, like he did on his 18 yard run.
Hope he gets a little more patient and waits for his blocks to develop
That makes him just like every other rookie RB ever. He’ll be alright. He’s a fast learner.
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by John Gennaro on Aug 16, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
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