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Revisiting the AJ Smith Debate

It's no secret that I'm not a fan of the AJ-as-a-hubris-laden-jerk meme, it really has staying power though (maybe not-so-much around here lately).

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It's been a hectic off-season in the five months since John's AJ Smith Approval Rating story.  We watched on in quiet, mournful, agreement as the Chargers cut a pair of team legends in LT and Jamal Williams.  We were excited to learn that the weird CBA changes would help the Chargers retain some of their otherwise un-restricted top talent, only to have most of that top talent turn the process into an aggravating circus.  We warned Antonio Cromartie to not let the door hit his contact-avoiding ass on the way out the door (update: he dodged it like a pro), and wept as Charlie Clipboard's flowing locks got their chance to shine in Seattle.  Then there was also something about a draft and some guy who plays World of Warcraft.  Most recently, AJ quietly signed all his picks with zero drama and locked up the best Tight End in football for another 5 years. 

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237 people voted disapprove in the AJ Smith Approval Rating vote on March 3, 2010.  I'd like to hear from you guys.  Do you still disapprove?  How so?  I've got the case for AJ Smith.

Exhibit A: Depth

  1. Wonko's Initial Roster Analysis.  Look at the depth on this team!!  Line them up 3 deep and let them compete.  If you have followed this team for the past couple years and agree with Wonko's numbers, there are probably names of at least three guys in his article that you love, but will not make this roster.  Everyone has a WR or DL or a LB they think could be a potential starter someday who is going to wind up getting cut.  Add Shawne Merriman (done deal), Marcus McNeil (probable/hopeful), and Vincent Jackson(doubtful) to that depth chart and the cuts get painful, all the more revealing of the depth on this team.
  2. The 2009 season.  This team got eviscerated by more than its fair share of the injury bug last season.  Both our offensive and defensive lines were obliterated by injury starting with the Raiders in week 1, yet we still posted a 13-3 record against a fairly difficult schedule, earning a wildcard bye.  Here is the list of players that went on the IR last year: Jamal Williams, Antawn Applewhite, Jyles Tucker, Jeromy Clary, Ogemdi Nwagbuo, Scott Mruckowski, and Ryon Bingham.  Other Major Injuries hit Nick Hardwick (13 games) Shawne Merriman (in and out of the lineup all season), Louis Vasquez (2 games) , LT (2 games) Kevin Burnett (5 games), Weddle (2 games), Ryan Leaf (lost season in jail for pill popping)

Exhibit B: Track Record

The San Diego Chargers are the class of the AFC West.  We have won the division the last four years straight, and 5 of the last 6.  The Chargers have been 46-18 over the last four years; only the Colts and Patriots have been better than that during that time.  Here's to adding two more wins to our Raider domination streak this year.

Exhibit C: Consistent applied philosophy

AJ has a very firm set of principles he follows; build through the draft, build from within by rewarding your players, limit the use of free agency, and lean towards younger slightly less talented players at dramatic cost savings.  He sticks to this and it works.  Check out this article on the worst 10 contracts of all time.  You will never see the San Diego Chargers on this kind of a list.  AJ never overpays, which preserves whatever the budget (usually a salary cap but not this year) is to build and preserve the aforementioned depth.  This isn't to say that AJ is cheap; witness the lucrative contracts for Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates.

Exhibit D: The Draft Record

People love to call the drafting of CBD a whiff, and English redundant.  I would point out that Buster has had some incredible players in front of him.  English played a lot last year, and now affords AJ the luxury of sticking it to Merriman in this RFA tender funny business.  This season is put up or shut up time for these two.  I don't need to re hash how many pro bowlers AJ has drafted, or how many UDFAs have become legitimate NFL quality starters and contributors.

This latest draft by AJ saw a lot more wheeling and dealing than usual.  I'm not sure how much of this had to do with the new three night format.  AJ was moving up, down, and sideways to get the guys he had his heart set on this year, without any Beathard-like mortgaging of the future (We're actually on the plus side with an extra 2nd round pick next year).

The latest AJ Smith #1 pick is already catching 50 balls from a machine after every practice to work on his receiving skills.  The future couldn't look brighter for this kid with his talent and work ethic.

Exhibit E: The firing of Marty Shottenheimer and subsequent hiring of Norv Turner

I had a lot of ancient history here, and was going to strike the whole topic except for this nugget: the thought of Marty calling the plays during the decline of LT makes me shudder.

Avenues of attack

As much as AJ prefers character guys and loathes "teh dramaz", we still have had linebackers in a disturbing variety of different court situations, a prima donna DUI suspended license flag kicking holdout WR, a DUI Nose Tackle, a stalker marrying WR, and a DB with 7 kids from 6 women in 5 states.

I think AJ is just as upset as you are about all of this.  The cutting of Jamal Williams and Chris Chambers, shipping of Cro, and minimum compliance offers to VJ and Merriman show this.

AJ drafted so-and-so, and HE was a colossal bust.

Cherry picking draft misses is pretty easy, especially when the team is so successful and is consistenly slotted in the bottom half of the draft.  (We should probably avoid this topic alltogether or John will start openly weeping about the loss of Gartrell Johnson)

The lack of Super Bowl appearances (let alone wins) is tantamount to failure for the amount of talent this team has.

I don't buy this.  First of all, who is responsible for the "amount of talent this team has?"  Secondly, our playoff woes have been a ridiculous collection of maddening injuries, incredibly bad luck, a disturbing lack of 'clutch', and some generally freak stuff.  Even with all that, the playoff losses we've had have STILL been really close games.  AJ can't keep the toes from breaking or the kicks from flying wide.  Winning in the playoffs usually takes some playoff experience.  At least we have that in spades now.  I'd much rather be angsty about playoff losses than  wondering if my team can crack 8-8 this year.

He cut the greatest charger of all time

As hard as it is to say, if anything, AJ gave LT one year too many.  Giving him a chance to re-negotiate for one final fun at a San Diego Superbowl in a diminished role probably actually hurt the team's offense a bit.  He then cut him quickly and respectfully, giving him a chance to catch on elsewhere.

Oh and just 'cause, here's the other Ryan Mathews WoW joke pic I have...

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Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

by John Gennaro on Aug 12, 2010 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

well said

exhibit C is one of the main reason AJ will keep the bolts competitive year in and year out.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Aug 13, 2010 7:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Job Eval

AJ has done his part, love him or not, to put this team in a position to win year in and year out. That is as much as a GM can do. While his job is just as important as that of Norv Turner and Phillip Rivers etc. He’s still just a piece of the puzzle. Winning a Super Bowl requires so many good things to fall into place at just the right time (along with some luck) that I cannot find any way to fault his job performance. I think he does extremely well.

by remmrtn on Aug 13, 2010 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Great stuff.

Bolts from the Blue // "Sometimes you would get the sense that people felt bigger than the team," Gates said. "Not to say it was an issue, but we know it’s not an issue for sure now."
Bloody Elbow // "I'm not Dog the Bounty Hunter, I don't issue apologies. And you're not going to be the first one to get one out of me." - Chael Sonnen

by Richard Wade on Aug 13, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

In the post on the Bears blog

The were complaining about how they missed on getting Weddle and about how they didn’t really get much value from their picks. Another example of why AJ is a good GM.

by riversformvp on Aug 14, 2010 7:28 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Very Good Post, Best I've seen in awhile. Recd

I am starting to get upset with AJ because I do not understand this VJ debacle. I am not sure how the heck waiting to resolve this thing helps anything. I do understand the Big Mac thing is just posturing as I still believe he ends up here long term. But when you look at this GMs entire body of work it’s hard to criticize considering both top talent and depth. Not even mentioning that we are setup phat for the next draft. I would like to see the team just ship VJack out if it’s possible to yield something resembling a 2011 2nd and a 2012 3rd/4th conditional.

IMO

by Foilhat on Aug 14, 2010 9:20 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I get the VJ story.

Expensive WRs are what you get if you have a QB you like, but can’t develop a WR.

Though I think AJ should trade the guy already. I’d think there are a lot of teams that just can’t build a Vincent Jackson and would love to give up a 1st for him.

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 14, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the AJ is actively shopping VJ, but that he’s only getting lowball offers. AJ won’t pull the trigger if it’s not a good enough deal.

by Orz on Aug 14, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was listening to an interview with Bill Polian the Colts GM

AJs BFF. He made a comment to the effect “The best rookies are last years rookies”. English, Vasquez, Green, Martin, Holt, and Spillman thats a nice list, I am excited to see it play out at the game

IMO

by Foilhat on Aug 14, 2010 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Chicken

If the Chargers don’t reach, and win, the Super Bowl this year, and these two don’t return, everyone will blame AJ. He has to realize he’s playing with fire here. It seems like some maniacal game of chicken. AJ must believe that Jackson and McNeill will blink and that the “reports” that they are prepared to sit out are all bluster. On the players’ side, with a possible lockout next year, they could be looking at sitting out TWO years, in the middle of their prime? That’s a very dangerous thing to do as well. Fascinating.

http://chargercrackback.blogspot.com/

by SDCrackback on Aug 14, 2010 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

The whole job, as a pro sports GM, boils down to a lot of controlling fires

You have to keep everyone in the organization happy. It’s easier with some than with others. It’s intriguing that absolutely no one is shitting on the Jets GM for Revis’ holdout, and his impact is likely going to be bigger than VJ’s.

by riversformvp on Aug 16, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec.

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 16, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

This

Although they aren’t exactly comparable examples seeing as how Revis held out to get the contract that he now is holding out from fulfilling, plus the fact that he has a couple years left on said contract.

I would, however, say that there is one situation that is perfectly comparable between AJ and Tannenbaum. I equate the D’Brickashaw Ferguson extension to the Antonio Gates extension in that both GM’s chose to reward their “nose to the grindstone” players that were continuing to show up and work hard before they rewarded their “squeaky wheel” players that were holding out and complaining about their contracts.

by jkvandal on Aug 16, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

This, but...

…I would also posit that AJ should re-up M80 long term to REALLY send a message to VJ: sign your tender, come to camp, help the team, then you get rewarded.

by Andy (allfield) on Aug 17, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think AJ should let M80 justify his status as a #1...

… [i]then[/i] trade VJ and re-up M80.

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 17, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong tags.

Point still stands.

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 17, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

totally

Bolts from the Blue - Destroying your opinions with facts.

by John Gennaro on Aug 17, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Floyd is way to tricky to sign right now

He could prob get low end #1 reciver type money if he plays well this season (with VJ holding out he will have the opotunity to do this) but I’m sure the Bolts see him as a #3 reciver (behind Gates and VJ). I don’t think either side has much intrest in a long term deal until the end of the season.

by Grey Suit on Aug 17, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He needs to prove both production and durability before he gets a long-term deal

He’s so lanky I expect his arms to get ripped off by every path thrown is way.
I am truly amazed he’s avoided injury as well as he has up to now.

by riversformvp on Aug 18, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

And the casual (e.g., SignOn SD) fan's job is similar to the GM

but without any constraints or pressure.

Rather than playing a game of chicken as SDCrackback suggested, I think that one of the ways of controlling fires (good way to put it) is to establish an order and a logic to player contracts. AJ knows that the two remaining unsigned RFAs are really good players, and could help out this next season. But that would require disrupting the established order that has served the team well the past several years … and that would potentially disrupt future seasons. That sounds more like Beathard than AJ Smith.

by HuangDi on Aug 17, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

This year's group of UDFAs looks pretty good

ONe more season where AJ finds value outside of FA and the draft has to be yet another feather in his cap. Act any way you want AJ just keep finding that talent!

by Trendsearcher on Aug 16, 2010 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Finding talent PLUS...

…having a place that UDFAs want to come to play. Is that a by-product of AJ or of having one of the world’s most beautiful cities? A lil of both, I’d say.

by Andy (allfield) on Aug 17, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

For sure the location does not suck

But if I was a UDFA, I’d want to come to San Diego.

First being invited by AJ is an endorsment of sorts. And second with so many UDFAs already on the Chargers you have to think that your chances of making the team are better in San Diego vs. being camp fodder someplace else.

by Trendsearcher on Aug 17, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice write up....

AJ is to finding good UDFA’s as Kevin Towers was to dumpster diving good bullpens.

Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.

by Mad_Villain on Aug 18, 2010 4:36 AM PDT reply actions  

ok, heres a thought

get on the horn to minn. and offer VJ for sidney rice and a pick. With Harvin’s health problems and the Favre window closing, they appear to be going all-in this season.

"i'm not inclined to resign to maturity"...PSYCH theme

by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Aug 19, 2010 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

oops, never mind

i didnt realize just how good Rice was

"i'm not inclined to resign to maturity"...PSYCH theme

by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Aug 19, 2010 6:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Carolina, Jacksonville, lots of places.

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 20, 2010 4:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another pro-bowl, super bowl contender out the door for the Chargers.

Sure A.J. Smith, trade Jackson to the Seahawks and while your at it, why don’t you start making a deal with the 49r’s for a trade with Rivers. Isn’t that what you do best? You have the money, pay the man!!! He’s worth every penny! Make the fans happy and give them what they want. It’s bad enough you let L.T. go, Brees, then Cromartie, Chambers, McNeil (?) and maybe even Jackson. My god who is next or should I continue? The only reason the Chargers got this far is because of Vincent Jackson. Right now your have the perfect mix of players. For sure the Jets are going to be in the play-offs and without Vincent we just won’t win. So get your head out of your A$$ and resign him. What players would want to stay on your team after doing wrong to all these players. Screw the draft picks, lets get going. Time is ticking!!!!

by chargers83vj on Aug 21, 2010 12:59 AM PDT reply actions  

I couldn’t disagree any more strongly with this ill-conceived rant.

Bolts from the Blue // "Sometimes you would get the sense that people felt bigger than the team," Gates said. "Not to say it was an issue, but we know it’s not an issue for sure now."
Bloody Elbow // "I'm not Dog the Bounty Hunter, I don't issue apologies. And you're not going to be the first one to get one out of me." - Chael Sonnen

by Richard Wade on Aug 21, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow

may want to check some of those statements again. Those aren’t going to get you far on this site, bud. Last time i checked, even the best WR’s cant do squat without a QB getting the ball to them.

by jkvandal on Aug 21, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

AJ does pay some guys
What players would want to stay on your team after doing wrong to all these players.

Let’s just take this one on. AJ has paid many guys over the years, and he’s paying quite a few right now.

Recall back to the days of say…. David Boston. Chargers paid that guy. A bunch of the Chargers players at that time were a little upset that Boston pulled a ton of money to do NOTHING. So the GM is always on a knife’s edge. Don’t pay the marquee players and risk alienating the players and the fans. Pay the marquee players and run the risk that they don’t produce and risk alienating the players and the fans.

Let’s consider the magic that V Jax brings to the team: tall, good hands. The team already has two guys that possess these qualities: M80 and Seyi Ajirotutu. Why not see if one of these guys can be a replacement for V Jax at a fraction of the price?

by Trendsearcher on Aug 23, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really.

You can talk “planet theory” re: McNeill, but Jackson is very replaceable. Guys with Jackson’s talent level are just ordinary-rare. Guys with his talent level, coaching/development and QB are freaky-rare, yes, but we lose only one of those by saying goodbye. Fortunately, wherever he goes, he brings two of them with him, so he does have some trade value.

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Aug 23, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most everything here is demonstrably wrong

And I’m a fan of dissenting opinions. But really, this seems more like satire or trolling.

First, what makes you think SD has the money? It’s been outlined elsewhere twice that I can remember, but the Chargers don’t make all that much, in relative terms.

As for the list of players let go, LT was and is washed up, Brees was hurt and inconsistent (not to mention Rivers waiting in the wings), Cromartie is a pansy and locker room poison, Chambers forgot how to catch, and McNeill hasn’t been released.

With Jackson the Chargers got, what, a penalty for kicking the flag? The Chargers haven’t really been anywhere, and primadonna WRs that have one great year aren’t worth anywhere near what they think they are. QBs make WRs, not the other way around.

I won’t even bother with the Jets with a sophomore QB and their collection of castoffs in a strong division. I could see the wildcard if Sanchez and their locker room don’t fall apart. They kind of remind me of the Raiders.

Time really only ticks when you sign a bunch of players to long term contracts for tons of money and they get old. That isn’t happening here. This team makes wise choices and rewards hard work. You keep your head down and do your job, you get paid. Jackson did one of those, and had the bad luck to have his extension ‘due’ an a strange year. Not his fault, but asking for crazy money he isn’t worth sure is.

"Were such things here as we do speak about?
Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"

by aesimpleton on Aug 24, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jackson Homer

Not sure why I get the feeling that is what you are. :) Without checking your previous posts were you encouraging VJ to sign his tender when it was on the table? If VJ is worth what you, and he, thinks he’s worth than certainly now that it’s known he’s available we’ll see if any other team gives him his 50 mil. Care to place a wager on the outcome?

“The only reason the Chargers got this far is because of Vincent Jackson.”

That statement proves you are most definitely a VJ homer. I doubt you’ll find anyone on here who shares this view.

No one disputes his ability. Just the compensation for said ability. Throw in the fact that anyone can make a convincing argument that sans Rivers his numbers drop.

by remmrtn on Aug 21, 2010 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

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