Analyzing the Chargers Madden 11 Ratings
by John Gennaro on Jul 1, 2010 10:41 AM PDT
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It's almost that time of the year again, where football fans fire up their Xbox 360s, Playstation 3s and Nintendo Wiis, and take the day off of work to play as their favorite football stars in the latest version of the Madden football video game franchise. With the game being released in a little over a month, and using rosters that are already a few weeks outdated (but will be updated around the 8/10/10 release date, I'm sure), the ratings of each team and player have been leaked out to the public for consumption.
Click here to dig through each ranking of each Chargers player on the Madden roster, I'm just going to touch on a couple of key points.
- This year there is a new attribute rating called "Swagger", which is sponsored by Old Spice. I'm more than okay with this. I always thought there needed to be a way to separate guys like LaDainian Tomlinson (who doesn't typically celebrate on the field) from guys like Terrell Owens (no explanation necessary). My problem is that I don't think whoever was in charge of giving players their swagger ratings did a very good job. Mike Tolbert, king of the stanky leg, gets rated with a 65. That's one of the lowest on the team. Tyronne Green is the only one with a swagger rating lower than 48, and his is 20! He must just be crying and apologizing all the time.
- I have no idea why they continue to put Corey Clark on the roster. I'm not even sure if he's ever actually made the roster. With that being said, I agree with all of the O-line ratings.
- Not a big fan of the LB rankings. Larry English and Kevin Burnett better than Brandon Siler? English and Siler more likely to get injured than Burnett? Shawne Merriman is able to leap tall buildings in a single bound (higher jump rating than every WR not named Vincent Jackson or Malcom Floyd)?
- The Chargers defensive line looks awful. I wish they would give better rating to Alfonso Boone and Cam Thomas, but they're not going to change them because Boone was a FA in the middle of 2009 and Thomas was a low draft pick. Earn it, fellas.
- Holy crap that's a lot of guys in the secondary! 6 CBs and 5 Safeties. Well, Kevin Ellison is gone now. Dante Hughes isn't going to make the team, I don't think. That's two open spots. If McNeill and Jackson hold out, there will be two more. So who gets added? Ernest Smith? Randy McMichael needs to be added. Sure, just for the hell of it, stick David Binn in there somewhere. Don't want those snaps getting messed up.
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When I used to have a console system
And bought Madden. I would always adjust the ratings and rosters for hours. The only thing you mention that really bugs me is the Burnett injury rating. So easy to get that one right and they screwed the pooch. I guess every detail is not an important detail.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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I have fiddled with all of the ratings in my copies too.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
A huge bother to me
is the past two, maybe even three, years they’ve had Volek as the FG/XP holder when it’s Scifres. Does it matter? No, but it still bugs.
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by matthewverygood on Jul 1, 2010 10:53 AM PDT reply actions
I haven't purchased Madden in a few years
But, I can’t recall one where they used anybody but the backup QB as the FG/XP holder. Chargers or no Chargers. Volek or no Volek. Has it changed, but is just wrong for the Chargers?
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It hasn’t changed. It’s always the backup QB. If you play the preseason games, after the first quarter or so, Volek comes in and Rivers becomes the holder. Hoping they just change it to the punter this year.
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by John Gennaro on Jul 1, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't play as other teams so I wouldn't know if it was league-wide
but thanks for pointing it out
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by matthewverygood on Jul 1, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you see Buster Davis' injury rating?
Holy cow is that wrong.
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He’s obviously made of iron.
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by John Gennaro on Jul 1, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Tomlinson
LT is ranked higher at 83 than Greene at 80 if you look at the jets rankings. What the hell. I love him and i wish him success except for when he plays us and I still believe theres no way in hell he’s still that good.
He’s been getting far-too-high Madden ratings for years now.
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by John Gennaro on Jul 1, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Madden ratings are very slow to change, either up or down. LT is a HOF player and so his regression will take a while to get down. Green was a lower round draft pick so he probably didn’t get that much love in the ratings department to begin with. Plus there is probably some formula they use based on productivity, and if you look at LTs raw numbers last year they were actually better in the aggregate (except for YPC) than Green. More rush yards and 6 times as many TDs. The computer can’t tell the difference.
Actually
Merriman had a 40 inch vertical leap coming out of college. Granted he was younger and hadn’t yet had knee surgery, but he did at one time have the goods in that department. Which makes sense, given that pass rush is all about explosive speed. Football Outsiders even takes it into account when projecting the sack potential for guys coming out of college.
As for swagger… meh. What does that even mean? Does TO have “swagger” because he shows off a lot? Or does Philip Rivers have it because of his confidence and vocal leadership? What about a quiet, unassuming guy who isn’t afraid of anyone and lights people up but never dances? What’s his swagger?
It means extra $$$ for EA Sports
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Ya I figured that. Pity that Old Spice had to pay Madden for some crappy product placement. Should have used that money for more “I’m on a horse” commercials.
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by John Gennaro on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya I saw that.
Pretty good, though like most sequels it doesn’t match the original.
The product placement is not crappy at all
It’s genius
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by matthewverygood on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Because it doesn't deserve it's own fanshot but I thought you'd find it amusing...
by Orz on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
Two things
1. That’s fantastic. Rec’d.
2. I think Sam’s head just exploded.
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by John Gennaro on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was a Marmalard thing again
But, it doesn’t mention that name.
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Thankfully
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by John Gennaro on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Says the guy who follows KingLaserface on twitter.
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It would have been on KSK
Needs more swearing to be King Laserface.
That link's not working for me. Anywhere else I can find the rankings?
The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.
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Whoa
Looks like ESPN is down. Way to go, LeBron.
If you click the link that says “Madden football video game series” you’ll get a few highlights, or you could wait for ESPN’s servers to come back online.
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by John Gennaro on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
First BP, then TV Guide Network, now ESPN.com...
2012 has come early
The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jul 1, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Ratings are a little inaccurate
Weather he’s on the team or not, Jackson’s speed is underrated. His speed rating is lower than Fitzgeralds, and B Marshalls, and a few other players who ran SLOWER 40 yard times than Jackson… odd. M-80 has a CIT rating of 76. Maybe EA Sports should review his highlight reels. That one should be high 80’s at a minimum. Rivers throw power is 88, I believe it used to be 86, which was too low… however the “throw on the run”, if still applicable, will probably be too low. On the last madden it was terrible, as we’ve all seen him throw on the run with amazing accuracy. Remember the 56 yard bomb to Gates? Yeah, he wasn’t sitting comfortably in the pocket during that throw. Stephen Cooper is terribly overrated, and Siler, underrated. Weddle is underrated. I think ratings for all players should be inspired by some rating by guys like Football outsiders or Profootballfocus. Weddle was a top ranked safety all across the board there, and a lame duck safety like LaRon Landry rated higher is at the bottom of PFF rankings…
by Superduperboltman on Jul 1, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, I totally agree. Players who are “under the radar”, like Eric Weddle, don’t get much of a ratings boost from year to year, even though Weddle has been IMO one of the top 10 safeties in the league the past two years.
Always reliable, a sure tackler, and he makes big plays. STUD.
by Jordan Cummings on Jul 2, 2010 3:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember that play.
Rivers showed a lot of smarts and awareness by keeping one foot behind the line of scrimmage during the throw. There was definitely some broken coverage on the part of the defense because Gates practically walked into the endzone, but it was still a thing of beauty.
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by SoCalBoltFan on Jul 2, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, got the ratings
How come Epps and Stuckey have such a high Swagger rating? For that matter, how come Rivers does too? And if SP95’s is only 89, what rating does Josh McDaniels get?
The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.
If I had a nickel from every SBN blog that has banned me, Arrowhead Pride would owe me 5¢.
although I do like to see a 98 Toughness rating for King Laserface
The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jul 1, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I think its legit to give Rivers a high swagger rating. Assuming swagger is shorthand for confidence or coolness under fire or whatever.
But like I said, the whole concept is ill defined and it would be impossible for them to really give accurate ratings to all these guys. I’m guessing for guys like Epps and Stuckey is just at random. Though maybe since Epps came from Miami he gets a few extra "swagger " points.
when it comes out
we should play on LIVE and have a tourney…I think it’s like a $! a month as an introductory offer…it would be fun…
I'm down!
Let me know and we’ll see what you got Gordy! :P
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by SoCalBoltFan on Jul 2, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric Weddle's rating
I don’t understand how Eric Weddle’s in-game ratings haven’t really progressed much over the last two or three years.
Jim Leonard has a better overall rating than he does…
Weddle is THE MAN. Show him some well-earned respect, EA.
It's because he doesn't have the interceptions
or the “highlight reel” type plays that other safteies in the league have. Weddle has 4 INTs since he was drafted in 2007. Compared to guys like Ed Reed (19 INTs since 2007) and Troy Polumalu (10 INTs since 2007 and missed a significant amount of time with injuries), Weddle isn’t making much noise in EA’s eyes.
Now if you want to compare tackles, Weddle puts Reed and Polumalu to shame.
Weddle: 262 total tackles since 2007.
Polumalu: 117 total tackles since 2007.
Reed: 105 total tackles since 2007.
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by SoCalBoltFan on Jul 2, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
i think
EA rites some guys too high like i gave russell a 46 rating my scalie go like this 95+ pro bowl 85 souild top 20 in pos 75 statrer 70 good backup weak str 65 ava 60 speilacts 50 st below 50 very relceable
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