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Chargers Game-Changing Offseason Moves: Balancing the Offense

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It's around this time of year that I start getting very optimistic about the San Diego Chargers' upcoming season. I start thinking about how the Bolts have filled up a hole from the previous season, either with a new player (Kevin Burnett will be a big improvement over Tim Dobbins!) or with an injured player getting healthy (Antonio Cromartie's hip is better? 20 picks, GUARANTEED!).  

A lot of the time I ignore the new holes that are opening up, and this offseason I'm going to try to be more realistic about the holes that could be there (Stephen Cooper, Nathan Vasher, SS, slot WR, etc.) in 2010.  However, right now, we're going 100% optimism.  After the jump, we'll explore each of the ways that Ryan Mathews improves the San Diego Chargers.

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Balancing the Offense
This one is pretty obvious.  For several seasons now, defenses have thought of the Chargers' running attack as nothing more than a change-up.  The only way the Bolts could be successful running the ball was either against a terrible defense, or by completely fooling the offense.  

By adding a running back who could potentially be one of the better starting RBs in the league, you balance out the defense on each play.  Defenses can not longer play with 5 or 6 defensive backs against the Chargers on each play, because those guys won't be able to tackle Ryan Mathews.  Defenses can no longer leave their safeties back for "over the top" help on 2nd & 7, because the Chargers won't be afraid to run Mathews in that situation to get 5+ yards.  Having a running threat on every play makes your passing game so much more dangerous, and allows for Norv Turner to be much more creative with his play-calling.

 

Creating Mismatches
Let's start off by saying that, in his hey-day, LaDainian Tomlinson was one of the most versatile running backs the NFL has ever seen.  He could run inside or outside, he could catch a pass out of the backfield and could probably line up as receiver if the team wanted him to.  He could throw touchdown passes.  He was too fast for linebackers and bigger safeties to try to stay with in coverage but, because of Antonio Gates, those were usually the guys left covering him.  As he got older, and he started to put some wear on his legs, he got slower and suddenly he couldn't create any separation from those LBs and bigger safeties.  He became an outside runner without the speed to be an outside runner, and a receiver with good hands but no ability to separate from defenders.

Here's where Mathews comes in.  Suddenly the Chargers get a new RB with soft hands, but this one has LT's old speed.  Ryan has the speed to create separation with LBs and safeties in coverage, has the speed to get around the outside and has the power to run inside as well.  Will he make the flashy plays LT once did?  Maybe, maybe not.  Will he be a Hall of Famer?  Maybe, maybe not.  However, what he will do...even in his rookie season....is change the way that defenses have to play the Chargers offense.  Once you start doing that, and freeing up Philip Rivers and Norv Turner more, the league is in for some trouble.

 

Helping the Defense
A lot of stat-nerds, myself included, will occasionally argue that the "time of possession" is a BS stat that's meaningless.  How fast your offense scores means very little compared to how often they score, right?  Well, yes and no.

Having a strong running game give you a lot more power to dictate the tempo of the game.  If the other offense just marched down on the field on your defense, it's important to give the defense a few minutes to breathe and figure out what went wrong.  This is why 3-and-outs can be killers.  

Let me explain why it's easier to take that situation and deal with it with a strong running game.  Let's say that happens to the Chargers in 2009.  Now, Philip Rivers knows that he needs to throw accurate passes to open receivers so that the team doesn't go 3-and-out.  The offensive line knows that they need to protect him to allow him to find that receiver and throw the pass.  The receiver knows he needs to run his route right, create the separation and catch the ball.  All the while, the team is going up against the opposing D-line, LBs and secondary....who are all trying to stop the play.

Now, let's assume that Ryan Mathews is everything that we hope he is in 2010.  The equation, of who the team needs to rely on on offense and who they're going up against, essentially gets cut in half.  The only people that need to do their job in that situation are the offensive line and the running back, and they're really only going up against the front 7 of the opposing defense.  Sounds a little easier, right?  A little more fool-proof?  Exactly.

Not to mention the obvious benefit of winning the time of possession battle with a strong running game: a healthier, more-rested defense.

 

Beating the Weather
Let me paint a picture that Chargers fans are very familiar with.  LaDainian Tomlinson sits on the sidelines while it snows during a game in January (either in New England or Pittsburgh), the Chargers offense struggles to get any sort of consistency but manages to stay in the game.....only to have the defense wear out in the final quarter and give up a big run to Willie Parker/Laurence Maroney/Shonn Greene.

Playoff football, whether or not many fans want to admit it, is a different brand of football.  You can win with offense (look at this last year's Super Bowl), but your offense better be good enough to overcome a strong defense and your defense better be good enough to slow down a strong running game.  In year's past, the Chargers have had none or only half of this equation and it's led to early exits in the playoffs.  This season, with a potentially strong running-game, the Chargers are better suited to face the built-for-the-playoffs teams and win.

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A big one you left out

Is controlling the ball with a lead. I know we won the Eagles game, but we could have made it a lot easier on ourselves if the running game helped keep the chains moving in the second half. It reduces the risk of an interception changing the game, it reduces the number of opportunities for someone to hit our QB and it gives the opponent less time to come back.

I also think the interesting part will be back and forth as different defenses will either play to stop the run or to stop the pass. Some games there may be opportunities for Mathews to run wild, other times he may get bottled up (because some teams’ defensive philosophy is always to stop the run first) and Rivers will get to pick apart the defense.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I think that's when our D comes in...

a better D can ALWAYS help us do that AND allow the offense to continue to score to put the game out of reach for our opponent.

by Gorditoe1 on May 4, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a big factor

(I believe) in winning so many games during the 2006 season. Rivers first year as starter, and LT’s YPC in the 2nd half really helped milk the clock, lower turnover risk and close out games.

by HuangDi on May 4, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time of possession is a tough one for Chargers fans

T.O.P. really tells you who is good at keeping the ball. It is very misleading, especially for Chargers fans. They were a number of situations last year when we couldn’t move the ball on the ground and so relied solely on passing to move the chains. That’s all fine and dandy if you do move the chains. But it can lead to bad situations for the team as a whole.

As was the case with the Chargers last year, frequent deep balls kept the chains moving very quickly. This in turn caused fast scores (which are really the only “bad” kind you ever get) which put the defense back out in a hurry. That in turn caused the defense to be tired which caused long drives for the other teams. It really was a vicious circle for the Chargers last year. Two 3 and outs and a quick score might add up to 5 minutes T.O.P. per quarter, which means the other team would have the ball about 10 minutes.
T.O.P. is very misleading, while it says nothing about a teams ability to score, it does help identify which teams are better at keeping the ball in their hands.

As a result of the large disparities we saw last year in T.O.P., the Chargers stocked up in the two aspects that help you minimize T.O.P. losses: a good running game and a good run stopping defense. I fully expect to see Ellison in at SS for obvious running downs and Stuckey in for obvious passing situations. That would give us a quasi 3-5 defense in base for runs and a base 3-4 for passing downs. The rest will be a mix and match. The Butler pick is also aimed at aiding the running game. Whereas Burnett was a good coverage ILB, he was a bit of a liability in the running game. I think Butler will have an immediate impact and will be able to help clean up the middle (with Siler on short yardage plays).

I was convinced they would take an NT when they traded up, but I am growing more excited about Mathews every day. His presence will only liven up the offense. But the big question is “Can he pass block?”

by riversformvp on May 4, 2010 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd love to see a study

Of teams that have fast scores. I bet you dollars to donuts that teams that have a high number of fast scores tend to win a lot more games than teams that don’t. Including playoff games.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they were flaws that hindered us in those games

But I don’t know about central cause.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t poke the anti-Kaeding fans, please.

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by John Gennaro on May 4, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You can add PIT to that list as well

Mendenhall had 165 yards rushing and 2 TDs in that game.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun Fact

Do you know what all 3 of those teams have in common in 2010?

They don’t play the Chargers.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

You know how to cheer me right up, sir.

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on May 4, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

And in their place

We get teams like the Titans, Texans and Patriots.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of the three teams you mentioned

I’d have to say I’m least looking forward to playing the Texans.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our record in the last game played against teams we play this year

is 12-1.

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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on May 4, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

That is comforting to know.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

4 of those teams we last played during the year we went 14-2 (2006), 2 others we last played when we went 11-5 (2007), 3 others are the AFC West, which we swept in our final games, another was missing Tom Brady, the others are the Colts, Titans and Bengals so it all starts to make sense. The 1 loss is to the Jaguars, for those that are curious and it was in 2007.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Listened to a sports talk radio guy in Philly pull stats and do something like this a few years ago and you’re absolutely correct. Teams that scored quickly were Eagles, Patriots, Colts, Chargers, etc.

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by John Gennaro on May 4, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you think about it

scoring quickly betters your chance of scoring often.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta have a decent defense though

to get the ball back in your offenses hands because allowing the other team to run out too much time can be a recipe for disaster no matter how quick your offense can score.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scoring quickly

also gives a team confidence (very key) that they can score whenever they want. Confidence breeds swagger, which bleeds over to the defensive side of the ball to turn the ball over, giving the O another chance to score quickly again and again.

Not saying scoring on a long drive doesn’t breed confidence, but I think you all know what I mean.

by Schwing on May 4, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

scoring regularly is most important, whether quick or not

Whether we score quickly or slowly, the important thing for the defense is for the offense to keep scoring. While everyone enjoys the euphoria from pulling out a close win, we the fans (and certainly the players, too) would always rather have the game put away by halftime. Our “bend-but-not-break” defense does best when we can keep blitzing and let our excellent OLB pass rushers run free, without being too worried about occasionally getting beat down field. It also takes away our opponents’ running game. Certainly, Jammer and Cason would appreciate the extra cushion of an insurmountable lead. This will also allow Ron Rivera to play the rookies, getting them more game experience and help prepare them for future playing time in future more critical situations.

by norcalboltfan on May 4, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The issue is that you MUST score TDs

Because if your defense is tired and allows long drives often, then the opposition will at least get FGs since the defense lets them drive so long (bend-don’t-break mentality).

A poor running game, which is a major factor in losing T.O.P battles, makes it hard to score from inside the 10 since the endzone is so short.

by riversformvp on May 4, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

and the fact that we scored alot of TDs (except in the first few games when we were struggling from in the red-zone), is why we won a lot of games despite the “bend but don’t break” style of defense.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with scoring quickly

Except perhaps sometimes in Q4.

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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on May 4, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I quickly pulled average T.O.P. for all teams last year

And the spread was surprisingly small
~26 minutes for St. Louis and ~32 for #1 but I can’t remember who it was…

Chargers were 12 with about 30 min (maybe 29:30)

by riversformvp on May 4, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOP is a bit of an overrated stat isnt it?

I’m an Aussie fan and havent been following NFL forever but it seems like any sport its what you do, not how much you do that counts.

Like the Colts absolutely smashing the Fins last year, they had the ball about 15mins but torched em enough to win.

Having said that, running is a legit plan I think, but TOP is more about the defense’s capability than it is about the ability to chew clock on the offense running it.
If the D can get 3 and out fairly often then you have the option to do whatever you want.
If the run can chew the clock you still need to know your D will counter whatever the offense does. If your D can’t stop em, whether you had the ball for a while isn’t really a factor. They’ll just keep it longer.
Therefore REALLY it comes down to the D rather than the run game to help you with TOP.

Thats my Aussie opinion, which by my name and blog www.rugbywits.com is obviously tainted a little by the sports I regularly watch. Does what I say make any sense at all. Maybe coming with an outside perspective is helpful in some ways? Would be sweet if I couuld get some feedback on my views from ppl who’ve followed the game (and Chargers) longer than I have.

Just thought I’d give it my first attempt on this blog – Go Chargers!!!

by Rugbywits on May 5, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd and welcome, even if you were site-pimping

TOP is less important to a fast-strike team like the Chargers, which against a weak team can score at will, than it is to a slower-paced offense. However, even if you are dropping forty-yard bombs on every play, winning the TOP battle is in some ways the ultimate insurance: if you’re ahead, and you don’t surrender the ball but continue to wear the clock down, it will be very hard for an opponent to come back.

The Padres are good, but make no mistake: we've gotta beef up the linwup.

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by StrangeBroP25 on May 8, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, no more site-pimping I promise, was just some background so you know where Im coming from.

Thanks for responding. Yeah I get ya. It is the ultimate insurance. And against the Jets when we only had 1 side of the field to throw to thanks to that Davis punk a running game would have helped.
But I rekon in 80% of the games the Chargers they play they might as well just continue bombing long. Why not just run up the score?
At what point do you believe you need to stop using higher risk plays to stay ahead if they are the plays that got you to the lead in the first place?
Balancing act!
Hope the O-Line hasnt forgot how to run block in the last 2 years of unbalanced attack.
And another random question…
Why not give the ball to a linebacker or DE in short yardage sometimes last year if we so obviously didnt have the backs to get it done? Linebackers have to tackle running backs so surely theyd have a good chance of pounding out a couple of short yardage runs each game?

by Rugbywits on May 9, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice post John

This offense should be pretty scary next season if we can get a decent running attack going. It’s my belief that if we would have gotten the run going in the Jets game last year, the outcome would have been a lot different. Even with Kaeding’s three missed field goals.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

BTW John

looking forward to the atricle focusing on some of the concerns the Bolts still have in 2010. Keep up the good work!

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possible Holes Remaining

In no particular order of importance

Right Tackle
Corner (possibly already addressed)
Blocking tight end

  1. running back
    Special teams gunner
    Receiver depth

by San Marcos Landlord on May 4, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Id say CB has already been addressed

Vasher is very similar to Cro in terms of athletic ability. He’s a former Pro Bowler and when he’s on the field he makes plays. I have no doubts he will be the starting CB in week 1. We also have Cason pushing him and we have Gregory, Strickland, and Oliver who will battle it out for the nickel spot.

I’m a little concerned about RT but I don’t think its too big of a concern. A lot of people forget that Clary was playing pretty decent before he got hurt last season and Dombro seemed to be coming into his own as well. I just don’t think it’s as big of an issue as some people think.

As far as a blocking TE, ST gunner, and WR depth, we will have to see what these new guys we brought in can contribute but we actually got a lot of new talent this year from not just the draft but some of the UDFAs we brought in who were projected to be mid to late round draft prospects.

I also think we’re set on a # 3 RB. Hester, Mason, and Brinkley will compete for that job.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think WR depth is an issue at all for 2010

VJ, Floyd, Naanee, Buster. Seems pretty deep to me. Especially for a team with a HoF pass catching TE. We essentially played the second half of last year with just VJ, Floyd, and Naanee as WRs.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 4, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's an issue

but bringing in the UDFA WRs this offseason to compete in training camp will only help the team. If they really like one of those guys it could be “syonara Buster”

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it would take 2 of those guys to make the roster for Buster to go.

I’m pretty sure at least 1 UDFA WR will make the 53 man roster.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats true

even though we managed last year after cutting Chambers, 4 WRs seems a little thin.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had 5 WRs after Chambers

We had 6 with him. Assuming you count Osgood as a WR.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

forgot about Osgood. I guess we did have 5 receivers after Chambers left.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vasher has struggled with injuries and being terrible. If you’re right, I hope he’s over it.

by BORTZ on May 4, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The injuries do concern me

I wouldn’t say he “battled being terrible” because thats not why the Bears let him go. They actually signed him long term but cut him for not being able to get on the field due to injuries.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes

Being terrible is because of injuries. Either because you are playing through them or you haven’t had enough time to get up to speed in the preseason because of them.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

and playing through injuries could definitely lead to playing terrible, but doesn’t mean you are terrible. If Vasher is completely healthy, all signs point to him being the starter in 2010.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wouldn’t put a lot of stock in it. The man hasn’t been healthy in 2 years.

by BORTZ on May 4, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possible Holes

That didn’t post right — Should be “Number 3 running back”

by San Marcos Landlord on May 4, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marcus Mason and Curtis Brinkley will be contending for that spot

as will Shawnbrey McNeal, I imagine.

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by StrangeBroP25 on May 4, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

even with those names, it still sounds like a bit of a hole.

That being said, they did stick with Brinkley despite his VERY difficult path after he was signed, so maybe they see something in him.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 5, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

The other option

Is that Tolbert basically becomes the 3rd running back since they already carry a second FB. One of those guys could be like Bennett last year and be inactive a bunch or stay on the PS.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agree with this option

I don’t see “3rd RB” as a hole at all. Mathews and Sproles with Tolbert getting some carries.

by JeromeB on May 5, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

In order to properly evaluate this

you need to pretend that mathews gets some sort of injury that keeps him from playing for a few weeks, and at the same time doesn’t open up a spot on the 53 man roster. Are we comfortable with Sproles, Tolbert, and Hester for a few weeks? I think we were all pretty comfortable with Bennet last year and probably less comfortable with Tolbert and Hester filling that role this year. That is the only scenario we need to consider the 3rd RB for, because if Mathews and Sproles stay healthy, no one else is getting any carries (outside of garbage time)

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 5, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your point is valid

but I would be comfortable with Sproles and Tolbert getting the carries for a couple weeks, if that were the case.

Also I think when you throw an injury into the mix I probably am not happy with the depth we have at almost any position. (i.e. Gates, Jammer, McNeil, VJ) If the Chargers lose their best player at almost any position they would be hurting a little.

by JeromeB on May 5, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

true, you and I agree that there really isn't a "hole"

but it is a big drop off from last year, where I was nearly as comfortable with Bennet as I was with LT. It’s also good to remember that we are in a bit of a unique situation because our 2nd string RB (Sproles) really can’t just step in and sholder the everydown load for 2+ weeks in a row. So that makes our discussion of who the 3rd string back would be at least worth noodling for a while.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 6, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last season I was nearly as comfortable

with Bennett as I was with LT as well, but I don’t know if that says more about how down I was on LT or how good I felt about Bennett having to take his place.
My biggest concern, position wise, right now would be D Line, followed by depth at WR.

by JeromeB on May 6, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could live with that for a certain amount of time

At a certain point though you’d probably force an open spot in that 53 man roster.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The running game

will definitely have potential. Even though the O-line was well below average in run blocking last year, they are healthy this year, which should help out a lot. But a Blocking TE is still necessary. Gates is barely average in run blocking. I think Jackson could line up close to him to help out on off tackle runs. The fullbacks are also barely average. Its more than Mathews, but he’ll be in a better situation than LT was last year with injuries and more injuries. He could definitely have a 1200 yard season.

by Superduperboltman on May 4, 2010 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Fullbacks

Hester and Tolbert are each a year more experienced. Their production will improve.

by San Marcos Landlord on May 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LT and Mathews' numbers in 2010

will be the best way to measure the Charger’s run blocking in 2009.

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

how?

we had concerns on C, RT (injuries), then a rookie RG (Vasquez) – i.e. still learning.

obviously the line will do much better.

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by tonik on May 4, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

Perhaps a better measurement would be how LT does in 2010 behind the best run blocking O-line in the league?

by SoCalBoltFan on May 4, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

TOP tells me about the strain the Defense might be under

On any play there are 6 to 7 guys on Offence taking a very few steps. On D there are 7 or 8 guys running all over the field. And the few players rushing into the back field are trying to run past someone – putting out maximum effort. Defenses spend more energy on every single play. You get TOP working against you and chances are your defense is gonna breakdown.

Maybe the Offence puts up enough points to win the game regardless of TOP. But as one side can dictate tempo and control TOP I am guessing that their odds of winning go up.

by Trendsearcher on May 4, 2010 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Things that can cost you TOP

Killer air war
Killer pass defense
Failure to run the ball
Failure to stop the run
Great punter
Offensive penalty discipline
Bad defensive penalty discipline

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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on May 4, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops. "Offensive penalty discipline"

Was supposed to read “unusually good or bad offensive penalty discipline”

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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on May 4, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

By strain

I meant that the D just has to soak up those extra minutes, and cardio-wise they have a more demanding job than offense. Low TOP just puts the D at a disadvantage. I think good defenses overcome low TOP and bad defenses crack.

by Trendsearcher on May 4, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will you make a post about Cam Thomas?

I know this article is all about Ryan Mathews, but I’m also very excited about Cam Thomas. Vaughn Martin and him have the potential to become a great NT tandem against the better rushing offenses in the NFL.

by TecateBoltsFan on May 4, 2010 6:24 PM PDT reply actions  

All signs point to

Vaughn Martin staying at DE for a while. The last interview with A.J. had him saying that Nwagbuo, Thomas and Garay are the 2010 NTs.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on May 4, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Ian Scott.

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by John Gennaro on May 4, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

A great running stopping D-Line

Would have Castillo, Thomas and Martin across the front.
That’s over 1000 lbs in three guys.

by riversformvp on May 5, 2010 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

in 2011 or 2012

that would be great. Otherwise, it’s too raw for 2010. DL is a fairly technique heavy position in the NFL, especially compared to college. These guys typically need to relearn footwork and hand play techniques that they haven’t had to use. Most college DL get by on their physical dominance through the college level, and outside of guys like Suh, that physical dominance goes away when they reach the NFL’s level of competition. I would expect Thomas to have a rough first year, just like every other 5th round rookie in the NFL. Martin will probably make some great strides this year, but he probably still has another year before he starts reaching his potential, just like any other 4th round second year player.

Unfortunately, both these guys will start getting good right as a guy like Castillo is starting his career descent…

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 5, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too late for that
Unfortunately, both these guys will start getting good right as a guy like Castillo is starting his career descent…

This year’s rookies would have to go back in time. The second highest paid Charger began his career descent three years ago.

by Trendsearcher on May 5, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's not what A.J. said though

He said that Thomas would move into a rotation with Nwagbuo and Garay.

That’s not to say that Scott won’t play there, especially on passing downs, but our GM didn’t mention him as part of the NT rotation.

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by Wonko on May 5, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your 100% Optimism

You said 100% optimism, but if there is such a thing as 150% optimism, your over-the-top forecast of next season’s improvement in the running attack achieved it. Another off-target assessment of last season’s problem (which, by the way, the UT quoted Norv Turner as saying was not a problem). The LT trashing is endless.

by bhound56 on May 5, 2010 10:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Norv can say what he wants

But there were at least 5-10 plays per game where I easily called out “inside run” before the play and that’s exactly what happened. I’m not implying that I can really read plays that well; interior runs were simply so obvious when they were called that the defense checked down before Rivers got under center. That, to me, is a problem.
To compound things, LT was no longer elusive enough to make something out of nothing. I think it’s half LT getting old and half Norv being unable to disguise a run.

by riversformvp on May 5, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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