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Can You Spare a Nickel? An Examination of the Cornerback and Nickelback Positions

When the Chargers traded Antonio Cromartie to the New York Jets it left an opening on the roster for another cornerback. However, it did not leave an opening at Cromartie's old position because the Charger's already have his heir apparent in Antoine Cason. Cason was a 1st round draft pick by the Chargers in 2008. He spent some time playing the nickelback role for the defense, but was removed from that spot during the 2009 season. Some might ask how the Chargers can expect a guy who lost his job at a lesser position to now become a starter at a more critical position? I have the answer.

First off, you can say that Cason will improve with another year under his belt or you could say that Cason wasn't that bad, but the team really like Steve Gregory. These things may be true, but there is also another truth. The nickelback position is not the same as the starting cornerback position. Sure, there have been many successful nickelbacks who became cornerbacks, but I'd argue that there are a number of successful cornerbacks who never played nickel and maybe it's because they couldn't.

More about the nickelback and cornerback positions after the jump.

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The first big difference between the two positions is that the cornerback has a extra defender that is always helping him. That defender is never out of position, he never gets tired and when a defender enter his space he never misses a tackle. That defender is the sideline. Any good cornerback will use the sideline to get an advantage. He can push a receiver towards it within five yards of the line of scrimmage. He can redirect a receiver's route towards it by using his body to keep the receiver from running away from it. He can also push a receiver towards it as he is trying to make a catch and with no more force out rule the play will be ruled incomplete if the receiver doesn't get both feet in bounds with possession of the football. The nickelback rarely gets to use the sideline.

The nickelback lines up in the slot (between the corner back and the defensive line). The receiver he is covering could be the third best receiver on the team or he could be the best. He could be a running back or a tight end. In today's modern NFL there is a lot of role specialization and the slot receiver may be a guy like Wes Welker who has a skill set specifically suited for lining up in the slot. Usually, the best way for the nickelback to start his coverage is to line up close to the line of scrimmage near the slot receiver.

In coverage the nickelback usually won't have to do a lot of full speed backpedals or have to turn and run to cover a Go route (where the receiver just runs as deep as he can). This is because a safety is usually behind the nickelback and he'll be in charge of taking over on any deep routes. This safety is much closer to the slot receiver than he is to the other receiver on that side so it usually isn't in the offense's best interest to use the slot receiver as a deep threat (although play action passes and other techniques that manipulate the safety can change this). So, basically what the nickelback will focus on is a lot of comeback routes, inside slants and out routes toward the sideline. Since this is the case, the nickelback will need to be suited to handle these routes first and his secondary talents can focus on the less likely scenarios.

All three of the routes I mentioned in the previous paragraph (comeback, slant and out) are what can be called timing patterns. The quarterback wants to throw to the receiver at a particular point in his route. He'll want to do this because the route is supposed to give the receiver an opening to catch the ball and run with it at that point. One way to do this is to jam the receiver within the first 5 yards. A good jam will almost completely eliminate the ability to throw a comeback route. The receiver will be in the wrong place, the defender will be right next to him and the quarterback will have to wait until the receiver is more open thus giving the pass rush time to arrive. A good jam on an inside slant route can force the receiver into the traffic that is around the line of scrimmage. This will create obstacles that the quarterback will have to throw between. However, a jam on an out route towards the sideline isn't going to help as much. It will change how the receiver runs his route, but he can still get to the same point in the route pretty easily. The nickelback will need to chase, locate the ball and get in the way of its path to the receiver.

The nickelback will have other responsibilities too. When the nickelback is in the game the defense is very spread out and it makes them a little vulnerable to the run. The nickelback is the closest defender to the running back outside of the lineman and linebackers. He'll have to be able to make some plays in run support. In addition to that, an aggressive defensive coordinator will also use the nickelback to blitz. This may be to help with the run support situation, but it may also be used to get to the quarterback in a situation where they need more than just a couple yards (and thus the slot receiver can be covered by the safety possibly with help from a linebacker dropping into coverage). The nickelback may also be needed for underneath coverage when the outside cornerback has to run deep and the nickelback becomes in charge of everything thrown short on his side of the field, which could even be the outside receiver running a comeback route.

So what primary skill set does that leave us with? He needs to be strong and able to jam. He needs to have good ball skills to knock down or intercept passes. He needs to have good speed in short bursts (as opposed to top end speed). And he needs to be able to chase and tackle a running back or quarterback. These are not all the same skills as a cornerback. The cornerback has to have great top end speed to run with the fastest players in the league on deep routes. The cornerback also needs almost a sixth sense of when he's going to have safety help and when he won't. He needs to be able to get some kind of jam, but more importantly needs to turn and run with the receiver once the jam is complete. He needs to be strong at back pedaling so that he can react to any of the receiver's short routes while still in position to turn and run deep. And, finally, like the nickelback, needs good ball skills to stop a pass. Tackling could be considered a secondary skill since most tackles will be made on a receiver who is busy trying to catch the ball. Jamming is almost secondary. Having a good short burst is secondary. Obviously, the best cornerbacks will be good at all those secondary skills, but one could argue that a player who is good at the primary skills, but below average at the secondary stuff would be an average cornerback in the NFL.

So, with that information, in a couple of days we can peek at the rankings for the cornerbacks in the draft and also look for a couple of guys that may fit the nickelback role better than the cornerback role.

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Any thoughts on why Cason was demoted?

Cason did play there pretty well as a Rookie and that was one of the reasons we were excited about his future. I was a little surprised to see him demoted this year and I was wondering about the reasons behind the change. I see there being several potential explanations for Cason not being good at a position in 2009 that he was good at in 2008
1. Cason regressed from his rookie year. Sophomore slump?
2. Cason wasn’t really that good his rookie year and Gregory got better. Cason was simply beat out.
3. The requirements of the position changed and Cason no longer fit them. It was Rivera’s first full season as DC and perhaps the nickelback requirements changed enough that they didn’t fit Cason’s skill set anymore.
4. Cason was in the dog house for not living up to his potential (not studying enough or whatever) so he was demoted to send a message, even though Gregory wasn’t necessarily better.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 9, 2010 10:49 AM PST reply actions  

I'd like to think it's a combination of #s 2 and 3

Unless this is a case where A.J. likes his guy more than the coaching staff does. But, that just sounds like conspiracy theory talk.

I did see that A.J. told Darrin Smith that there would be competition for the starting corner spot. Presumably, that would require the Chargers to bring in that competition for Cason because I can’t envision the Hughes’ providing any.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that comment from AJ makes me think that they will sign a

mid-level FA to compete with Cason. Maybe someone like Leigh Bodden.

by Grey Suit on Mar 9, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought Bodden re-signed with the Pats...

I guess it’s still up in the air, but supposedly he’s deciding between the Pats and Texans. He should decide by tomorrow

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

Bodden may be a “mid level free agent” but in the 2010 free agent class, he’s the second best CB on the market (according to Scouts, Incs grades).

The next 5 CB UFA’s are: Deshea Townsend, Phillip Buchanon, Nick Harper, Anthony Henry and William James.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah I was more speaking over all

He is not going to get top FA type money (well he might but he’s not worth it). Bleh I don’t think the rest of the FA CBs could compete with Cason.

by Grey Suit on Mar 9, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

i would say 3.

didn’t we use a lot of soft zone instead of man-man

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by tonik on Mar 9, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems like that would be the same

Cottrell was King of the Soft Zone.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Another solid post, great work

I’ll be interested to see your rankings, compared with mine. I think there’s a strong possibility that we draft a DB relatively high with the above nickel skill set you mentioned.

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

I'm thinking

That the first 2 picks will try to be DT and RB and that the 3rd round pick is likely to be a CB. That could change if a pass rusher or CB is a really good value where they pick in the first or second though.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I could live with that. If I had to bet money in it . Id put it on us drafting either a RB or DB at #28 overall.

Especially if someone like Earl Tomas or Kyle Wilson is their. It seems like there’s just so much value at DB in the late first and early second this year.

I think both those guys would be better picks than a RB.

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I also think that Gregory was pretty solid at NB. So if there is someone available that the Chargers think could compete with and push Cason for the 2nd CB job, why not grab him?

by BFDC on Mar 9, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Preferably

You’d want someone who can do both.

There is also a possibility that Gregory could get exposed next year or that he had a career year.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Well then do you draft a guy who is more suited for NB but might be able to play CB, or a guy who is more suited for CB, but might be able to play NB? It seems like the latter to me…

by BFDC on Mar 9, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You draft the best available at the point where you pick

But the former is more likely to help in 2010, the latter would be a lot like Cason.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Earl Thomas seems silly

I don’t think the Chargers are in the market for another safety. They have plenty and all of them talented. I like Wilson to an extent. I just wonder how the Chargers feel about shorted CBs. My guess is that they dock players for shortness at certain positions (CB, TE, WR) a little more than other franchises.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I think both Tomas and Wilson are special

Both in my opinion could play corner or safety.

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

You are alone in that opinion.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

This is just false

When I have time later I’ll find the links to refute it.

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Fine, there are probably some that say that

But usually when they do, they don’t really mean it. In the last 10 years or so of following the draft, whenever they talk about a guy who is almost exclusively a CB or S and say he could play the other they really mean that no good NFL team would ever do that, but if they did it wouldn’t be the worst thing ever. When Weddle came out, there were a number of places that said he could play CB. That seems silly in retrospect.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I dont remember

anyone saying Weedle could play corner in the NFL. I remember people saying he played darn near every skill position in college, but dont remember the former. I’m at work, but when I get home I’ll post a plethora individuals opinions that seem to support my opinion that you say Im “alone in”. If you choose to believe they write or say stuff they dont mean that’s your business.

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Fine

You’re not alone. You are just in the minority. Just like those people that thought Weddle could play CB.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Im not going to respond to the Weddle comment because I consider it a straw man.
I’ve found some links about Tomas I would like to share though.
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/1/14/1251979/earl-thomas-nfl-draft-scouting

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=72083&draftyear=2010&genpos=CB

http://www.footballfanspot.com/earlthomasscout.htm

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2100

All the above links refer in some way to him being a corner, converting to a corner, or having the ability to do so.
The the vid from nfl dot com, has Mayock pretty much summarizes what the other links say about Tomas.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d81677626/Mayock-s-top-5-S-CB

I found this Mayock quote interesting.
“We talk about play making ability. All we talk about on offense. All these teams are pass first. They have play makers left and right. I think the league needs to evolve towards safties that can make plays on the back end. And thats what this kid (Tomas) is. He’s only a junior, but that last two years he’s started 26 straight games.”

Tomas and Wilson I think would be perfect fits to do just this on the “back end” , at corner, or at NB.

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that NFL Draft Scout had his primary position as CB

Which is really weird since everyone else has him as a S. If you look at Weddle’s 2007 page for NFL Draft Scout, they have CB listed as a secondary position (primary is SS).

The way I read this is that he “has the skills to play corner.” I think even one of your links says that. Like I said, I hear this about guys every year. However, Thomas is a potential first round pick because he’s a safety. Evaluated as a corner, he probably wouldn’t be a first round pick because having the skills to play corner and projecting to the NFL as a corner are not the same thing. So, like every year, it’s still best to ignore such comments because they are just offhand remarks. Thomas is a S, Wilson is a CB and no one is really thinking they’ll play anything else. Just like Weddle back in 2007.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that you're writing front page

articles, I wish you would learn a little more diplomacy in your replies. I have had some pretty curt, you’re an idiot type replies from you in the past and it makes it difficult to want to say anything. on here.

by Chilango on Mar 9, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I really wish

You’d understand that my replies are not “you’re an idiot type” ones. That is a mischaracterization that I don’t appreciate.

In this particular case I follow a number of draft related sites and am quite familiar with a lot of knowledgeable opinions on Wilson and Thomas and they are not mentioned as guys that should play anything other than their primary positions in the NFL. So, I told it like I knew it. That to my knowledge AirNorval was alone in that opinion. I won’t apologize for that.

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by Wonko on Mar 9, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand you're very knowledgeable

but when you have replies that are composed of a few words that essentially say ’you’re wrong’ it certainly implies that. As a front page writer, you’re not just a brain or an anonymous internet man, you’re also an ambassador.

by Chilango on Mar 9, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Wonko speaks only for Wonko. I think we need to be clear about that.

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by Richard Wade on Mar 9, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You should put that in your sig.

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

So when I think someone's wrong

I shouldn’t mention it? I’m sorry, but that’s not the way I work.

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by Wonko on Mar 10, 2010 1:02 AM PST up reply actions  

you don't have to apologize for being yourself EVER...

they just want you to be a little more patient with your replies and have a more courteous tone to them…ie don’t be such an ass…

by Gorditoe1 on Mar 10, 2010 2:02 AM PST up reply actions  

leopard... spots...
No, I don’t think you’re an idiot. Please don’t go trying to prove me wrong

sigh…

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 10, 2010 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

exactly!

of course, the ass part wasn’t too diplomatic either. But, please keep saying what you’re saying, because this site would be poorer w/o it. But you should also recognize that very few are going to have the knowledge you bring to the the table. Patience and courtesy are better teachers than, well, the opposite.

by Chilango on Mar 10, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

it wasn't a dig @ wonks

he’s my buddy we get super wasted every other weekend.He brings the Stellas and I bring the kush and we both chase the honeys…don’t tell the wives!!!…lol

by Gorditoe1 on Mar 10, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

If Gregory is really the nickel guy

Then it doesnt matter if he’s a safety or corner; he probably should have been taken out of the rotation at safety anyways. I’ll just consider him a slot and STs guy, if I do that it seems reasonable to draft a safety/corner like Tomas or Wilson; especially since both could compete for the nickel role too.

Both are physical and great tacklers. If Tomas drops to us I don’t think there’s anyway we cant pick him.

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Throw out some names Wonko

Who do you like in the first 3 rounds?

by AirNorval on Mar 9, 2010 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

Some other time

We still have a month to go.

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by Wonko on Mar 10, 2010 1:01 AM PST up reply actions  

We need a CB

I see Gregory fitting the nickelback role. Jammer is set to move to Safety after 1 or 2 more years. Therefore we need to draft a CB early, to compete with Cason for the starters spot, and to back up Cason/Jammer at CB for the next 1-2 years. With Jammer moving to safety, and Ellison, Weddle, and Gregory, I think we are set there. Give Ellison some more time, let’s see how he improves.

by SJO on Mar 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

I think it might be too early

To start planning a move to safety for Jammer. Even if it does happen in 2 years, it still might be too early to plan for it.

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by Wonko on Mar 10, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

History of young CB

Look at our recent history of young 1st round CBs. Jammer took several years to turn into the consistency machine that he is. Cromartie didn’t really start until halfway through his 2nd year, and Cason has played backup/role player for 2 years now. Rookie CBs even high draft picks are very dangerous to rely on. I like the way AJ has brought along Cromartie and Cason, and hope to see that play out again. I think we definitely need a CB, but alot will depend on how they view Gregory fitting in SS or NCB.

by SJO on Mar 10, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Let me put it this way

I also see the need to draft a CB because I’m not sure that you can count on Gregory. Like I said earlier, he might have had a career year, he might get exposed, he might be needed at safety if injuries arise. We need more depth at CB. That being said, I’m not sure there is a need to draft a guy this year with the thought in mind that he needs to take over for Jammer in 1-2 years. Would it be nice if he could? Sure, but I don’t know that it’s the focus. The focus should be to get a guy that can push Cason and Gregory in 2010. But, that guy could be a 3rd or 4th rounder. If you are drafting with the primary purpose of replacing Jammer in 1-2 years I think you are obligated to make that pick in the first or second round.

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by Wonko on Mar 10, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll clarify

I think we need to draft a CB that has starter potential. That means drafting higher than Hughes in the 5th.

by SJO on Mar 10, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

We were talking about Thomas

Who could play any defensive back field position. The line between a safety and a CB is becoming blurred as the league becomes more of a passing affair.
If we drafted a safety or a corner in the 1st either could start, and contribute right away.

by AirNorval on Mar 11, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

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