Chargers Trade Antonio Cromartie to Jets
by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 8:27 PM PST
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PrintThe major changes to the San Diego Chargers roster continue, with Antonio Cromartie being traded to the New York Jets for a 2011 3rd round draft pick (that could become a 2nd round draft pick based on Cromartie's 2010 performance).
While I would've preferred to trade Cromartie to a non-conference team, this is not a bad move and the Chargers actually got very good value for a guy that they absolutely did not want on the roster anymore.
The list of positions the Chargers need to fill after today's moves: Starting RB, Nickel CB, Starting NT.
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I wanted a 2010 pick
But this is basically a 2010 3rd, witch is about what I expected. Its better than a scrub RB and a 2010 5th.
Man I sure hope we dont have to play the Jets in the playoffs again because their D went from great, to straight up ridiculous.
How is this a 2010 3rd?
It is based on 2010 performance.
Equivalent to a 2010 3rd. The idea is that a 2nd rounder next year is roughly equal to a third rounder this year as far as value goes.
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
Disappointed
this trade doesnt make our 2010 team, or 2011 team any better. In fact, it weakens our secondary and our depth at CB. We got so many holes to fill this year, I just hate the trade. We sold low, weakened our secondary, and dug out another hole to fill. Bad move.
by Bluelightning on Mar 5, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
surprising trade value
since everyone knew he wasn’t wanted here and if they waited he probably would have been released. What worries me the most, is CB depth was thin last year, they only had 3 on active roster. I know they had a lot of DL for the rotation, so they were short on a roster spot for a CB. That leaves a few practice squad guys, Cason (who looked more lost than Sammy Davis did) and Jammer. They better explode on the pass rush or the D could be 2008 vintage. They can’t go sign more than 1 FA, and no extra picks this year with 2 very pressing needs at RB and NT.
Good explanation on Chargers.com
They’re TOTALLY limited to 1 FA — as long as it’s someone they can sign to under 4 mill a year.
The Chargers, as one of the final eight playoff teams, can sign only one UFA with a first-year salary of $5.807 million or more. The team may sign additional UFAs at that salary range only after losing one at a comparable salary. It may sign an unlimited number of players with a first-year salary of up to $3.862 million
by Andy (allfield) on Mar 4, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
That doesnt count guys that were cut though I think, not that it matters. We wont be active in FA anyway
good point(s)
the UFA limitation is only for UFAs whose contract expired, guys who were waived/cut are not restricted by the final 8 plan.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 5, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Hopefully this allows for some draft flexibility
Because we might not get a shot at the RBs we want in the late 2nd.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see AJ take a NT, then CB, and wait until round 3 for one of the bigger backs to pair with Sproles. One of Gerhart, Hardesty, Tate, etc.. might still be around right?
um, no
He’s been moving up. But not that high. Scouts, inc still has him graded as a high 4th rounder.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
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by Wonko on Mar 5, 2010 9:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Fexibility
I wouldn’t be surprised if AJ packaged the 3rd/2nd in 2011 with this years and move up to take the RB or NT we didn’t pick in the first round.
by LightningStrike on Mar 5, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
From Roman Oben Twitter:
Some of my former teammates have said Cromartie’s only good season came as result of #Bolts leading #NFL in sacks… Hmmm
Very true.
But, the Jets are also very good at getting pressure on the QB. Great place to play CB.
This off-season officially sucks for FIVE reasons and counting...
So do you think that he could return to the 07 Cro?
I think he could
I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?
He'll have every opportunity
with Revis on the other side.
I doubt he would have as a Charger
especially with all the talk about trading him of late.
I hate to say it, but maybe.
He will have Revis shutting down half of the field, a great pass rush and a good run defense.
This off-season officially sucks for FIVE reasons and counting...
Technically not correct
The Bolts led the NFL in sacks in 2006, which was not Cromartie’s big year (he wasn’t even a starter). His 10 pick year came in 2007, when they were 5th in the league and had 19 fewer sacks than the year prior.
He may be correct about the drop off being a result of the Chargers sack numbers/pressure falling the last 2 years. However, his surrounding cast in NY should help him. He won’t play #1 receivers because of Revis, and the Jets front 7 is very strong. This could give him ample opportunities for big plays. Hopefully it won’t and he’ll continue his decline.
it has been a very eventful New League Years Eve.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 4, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Rec’d for New League Year’s Eve.
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
I don't think it is really that many "key" changes
LTs production will be matched or bettered by anyone that plays next year. JW was a great NT but he basically didn’t play at all last year, so there will not really be a change there. It appears that the only “key” player that will be gone from this years team is Cromartie (if you consider him a key player.
Osgood was a key contributor on special teams.
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Mar 10, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
No doubt we will need some corner depth
but I was sort of assuming Gregory is pegged as the starting nickel CB.
me too
I’d still like to see them draft someone who is suited to play nickel and maybe can return kicks.
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by Wonko on Mar 5, 2010 9:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Number of bastard children?
Couldn’t resist.
by HuangDi on Mar 4, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
he's gonna see plenty of playing time...
they cut lito and he’s good so I think we’re gonna get that 2nd round pick.
Wow
Actually a good trade. Let the Cason era begin!
LT Style, Electric Glide
"It's all part of the plan." Jeff Moorad and The Joker in the Dark Knight.
"Just because you went to the Finals last year, you can’t go out on the floor and expect teams to lay down. We got no heart. You can only make so many excuses. Everybody has to come and play hard, not just one or two guys."-Matt Barnes
This draft is getting more and more interesting by the day.
I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?
we might pick up someone via FA,you never know...
Charles Grant is available,and so is Aaron Kampman…we could be eyeing Kirk as well.All speculations I know but AJ might strike and shock us all.
WANT KAMPMAN
Yup, I'm the nut who believes Mark Loretta is a possible future Hall of Famer.
by StrangeBroP25 on Mar 5, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
Kampman wont sign with the bolts
He wants to play in a 4-3
So long Johnny Appleseed...
And good riddance!
by Kame on Mar 4, 2010 9:20 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
This isn't Chargers related, but.....
The Panthers released Jake Delhomme? Didn’t they just sign him to a big contract last year?
I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?
yes
but the back-up out played him. and after last season , they couldn’t justify keeping him.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
ya
they will owe him approx. 12 million for next season
so he'll be happily unemployed...
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
Delhomme is an awful QB.
It is truly in the Panthers best interest to pay him just to stay away from that franchise. He was holding Jonathan Stewart and Dante Rosario back!
This off-season officially sucks for FIVE reasons and counting...
I hate Dante Rosario!!!!!
I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?
by tonoxtono on Mar 4, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I know.
That catch still pisses me off. But other than that…
This off-season officially sucks for FIVE reasons and counting...
Unless the Panthers are playing the Chargers
I always root for them. It looks like I got my top two football-related wishes granted all in one night!
Basically
They renegotiated Delhommes contract to afford Peppers in 09. Now they can’t afford Peppers and they don’t want Delhomme. Whoops.
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by Wonko on Mar 5, 2010 9:36 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
step on up, second 1st round pick
cason has had much playing time, but he knows the the plays. so he’s got the advantage of just going out an making plays.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
I hope he steps it up, because he looked awful when he played as the 2nd corner in the 2nd half of the Browns game, and didn’t look that great against the Skins either. At least he’s not afraid to tackle though.
I doubt he will do worse than Cromartie has the past 2 seasons
plus he won’t be a distraction off the field
besides having a lot of kids...
what distractions are you refering to?I think you’re just repeating the dislikes of him that some people here have.So he has a bunch of kids,SO…none of us take care of em.What was or is your complaint about him? The missed or non attempt block? I think you’re just criticizing for the sake of criticizing bro.
by Gorditoe1 on Mar 4, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll just keep it simple cause with him gone it doesn't matter
Off the top of my head, the allegations that were put on him in November after the win in Denver. Regardless of the outcome with the investigation, you cannot take away the bad publicity that Cromartie received, and more importantly the bad pub that the Chargers organization received. That is what I was specifically referring to, not to mention past issues that he has been involved in that have been discussed here.
As the kids go, that also puts negative pub on the team because anytime that his name was mentioned with overdue child payments, it was said as San Diego Chargers cornerback Antonio Cromartie. I’d rather not be associated with that as a fan of this team. That’s my personal opinion.
And why should we be taking care of his kids? He should be the one doing that.
you see
That was THE MOST vague explanation EVER….that was what you came up with?Y ou just dislike the dude point blank period.And I never said that WE should take care of his kids.I guess you’re ok with the multiple DUI’s that VJ and SP95 have been mentioned in though right?I hate it when dudes just hate on other dudes just to hate.
You said, “SO…none of us take care of em.” I took that as you saying that we don’t take care of them either so we have no room to talk. Sorry if you were saying something else.
It’s a stretch to say I’m “hating” on Cromartie. I’m simply saying that I believe Cason will perform as good if not better than Cromartie has the past 2 years without the off-field distractions. So I prefer Cason.
This isn’t about Jackson or Phillips. I’m definitely not ok with those either.
WELL...
IF Cason performs better great,but he was looking pretty bad against a bad team last season when he got the start.We can only hope he has great work ethic and a great training camp so he CAN perform better and be an asset to the team.
i dont get the obsession with his kids
On the radio the other day I hear a laundry list of guys with multiple kids with multiple women who did fine in the nfl. Marshall Faulk was the most prominant (6 by 4 women). I guess Travis Henry is the Steve Garvey of the nfl though.
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by Wonko on Mar 5, 2010 9:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
neither do I
I’ve read this past year he’s done a ton to start getting his life back on track. We all know he admitted to being lazy in practice during the ’08 season, relying on his talent to save him from poor preparation. With help from Jacques Cesaire (who leads a team Bible study from his house), Cro became a Christian. And he married the mother of his most recent children, and states he is working on becoming a better husband and father.
Now I know most of the Cromarie bashers don’t care about any of the above, but doesn’t that just serve to reinforce the idea that if we hate a guy for his on-field play, that’s what we should stick to bashing?
That's a ridiculous notion.
Especially for someone who just cracked a bottle.
by SJO on Mar 8, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Well,
Many have speculated that he is simply a poor nickel corner, and will be much better in man coverage.
Either way, he will actually tackle people. That is an improvement.
This off-season officially sucks for FIVE reasons and counting...
Well those games I was referring to, Cro and/or Jammer were out, and he wasn't playing the nickel.
Either way, he’s going to get picked on when the season gets going and will have to either step up or he’ll Fail
BTW
it makes sense, cromartie has been playing for the jets since the divisional round…
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
by gatesoftds on Mar 4, 2010 9:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Cason looked terrible last yr, he was benched for a reason. We’re taking a CB and NT(if available) first two picks. Can never have too many good CB’s in my book.
At this point, I can’t help but think that it’s gonna be about more than just the draft. Out of necessity, the Chargers are gonna have to be active in free agency. Or trades or somethin’.
AJ says he’s got a plan. He’s starting to remind me of Gene Hackman in “The Poseidon Adventure.” “The kitchen’s under water, so we gotta go this way!” Okay… If you say so… But you better be right. Meanwhile, I gotta carry Shelley Winters on my back.
by Andy (allfield) on Mar 4, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm just sayin'...
Why can’t I get Pamela Sue Martin?? Where’s the love?
by Andy (allfield) on Mar 5, 2010 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
The position Cason was benched from and the position he’s slotted to play this year are quite different.
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Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Mar 5, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I'm happy I was wrong, I thought he was going to be released
Considering all the negative vibe going around I was positive there was no to get value of this fluffy soft player. But I’ll give AJ props I thought a 4-5 rounder seemed reasonable, so getting a 3rd with option for it to be a second even if it in 2011, doesn’t sound bad at all. They made something out of nothing, good job.
According to Florio
Eight teams were interested in Cromartie including Wade Phillips and the Cowboys.
Funny reading all the Cromartie bashing
I remember a fair number of posts during this past season where people would brag about how the Chargers had one of the best CB duos in the league. Now all of sudden the guy sucks.
I’m o.k. with the trade, as there were obviously things about Cromartie that the Chargers felt made him more than expendable. But he was a talented CB in coverage and he very well could be missed.
Agreed
I don’t think Cromartie sucks, I think he’s very talented. I just also happen to think Antoine Cason is very talented.
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okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24
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