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About field goal kicking.

Your site has written in the past that field goal kicking isn’t a repeatable skill. If that’s so, then how come Nate Kaeding (playoffs aside) has never had a season where he’s converted less than 80% of FG attempts, and for the most part approaches or exceeds a 90% success rate every year?

"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds

by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 4, 2010 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

I think Kaeding’s probably one of the better kickers in the league, but his variance is well within the range you might expect from a normal kicker. Kaeding was third among kickers with 20 or more attempts this year in FG percentage; a year ago, he was 19th.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

About your offensive line statistics.

It seems to me that using the NFL’s play-by-play to measure success-failure rates for individual linemen gives a false picture, because the stats don’t actually record the blocking scheme being used. All they do is show where the run went—“off right tackle” or “off left guard” for example. Many times a running play fails because some other lineman or blocker missed their assignment, so the play blows up and is recorded as a failure for the “right tackle”, even if he’s not actually the guy who screwed up. How do you account for this?

"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds

by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 4, 2010 10:33 AM PST reply actions  

I agree with you 100 percent, which is why we don’t track success/failure rates for individual linemen. We do assign blame out for when the quarterback is hurried or sacked, because that’s usually much easier to tell — pass-blocking is much easier to diagnose than run-blocking. Even then, sometimes, it’s impossible to say, which is why we’ll put something like “Rusher Untouched” or “Overall Pressure”.

On running plays, since we can’t parse out the individual actions of an offensive lineman or a blocking back, we do just list how a team did on runs to, for example, right tackle or left end. I think that’s the fairer way to do it, and it also allows for interpretation by fans of a team. Are the Jets great at running to right guard because Brandon Moore’s effective at the point of attack, or because left guard Alan Faneca’s excellent at pulling into the hole and sealing off an end? That’s something a dedicated fan with a close eye can answer better than statistics.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Wonko's question posted yesterday

What’s the deal with all the Norv bashing? Why is it just as frequent now as it was before he won the division 3 straight years and accumulated 3 playoff wins? Isn’t it possible he’s a better coach than the one that was analyzed for the 2007 annual?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

It’s an easy target, I agree. Research we’ve done into how teams perform late in games, though, does suggest that Norv leaves lots of points and time on the field. It’s reasonable to say that he’s improved over the past three years, sure, but you also have to consider the quality of talent on the team. Just because Turner got them to the playoffs (and remember, it took a small miracle in 2008 to get there) three years doesn’t mean that 95% of other head coaches wouldn’t have.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

So what you're saying is....

Norv will never be considered a good coach until he can win without talent?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I hear you, Bill Barnwell. I think what you’re saying is that Norv is just your average run-of-the-mill ho-hum hapless underwhelming over-matched cutout that does every year just what your statistics suggest he will do. And I think the subtext might have been: what the hell does anyone see in this guy?

by Rocket Surgery on Mar 4, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he does every year what our numbers suggest. He’s a great quarterbacks coach and a very good offensive coordinator that has trouble with keeping players happy and healthy and has serious time management issues during games.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Yikes

There’s a lot in that statement right there.

-Could you state an instance where Norv has not kept his players happy? Veterans that are bitchy because they’ve lost their talent (LT, Merriman) get excluded.
-Did you notice his time management skills getting better in 2009? We did.
-Do you think the Chargers injury issues can be blamed on the coach?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That seems like a catch-22, though.

When he fails, it’s because he’s a bad coach. When he succeeds, it’s because of the players.

Couldn’t the same thing be said about guys like Andy Reid or Tony Dungy?

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by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 4, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s the tricky thing. You can never really separate the chicken from the egg, either, and I think you’re right in that it can be a catch-22.

I’m not a big fan of the “You’re nothing till you win an SB camp” for players, but maybe that’s how it needs to be for coaches. On the other hand…Norv’s taken what was an elite team and they’ve been alternately average and great over the past three years.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

By comparison

The Ravens have been filled with talent for the past two years and have gone back and forth between average and great depending on the month. Would you saw John Harbaugh and Norv Turner were in the same class as each other?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Not at all. Harbaugh’s 2008 team had a historically high injury rate and still managed to make the playoffs. That was really impressive. The 2009 Chargers were pretty injured, but nowhere close to the ‘08 Ravens. And Harbaugh doesn’t have the history that Turner did.

I think if you judge Norv Turner based on his performance in San Diego, you wouldn’t be able to say he was a terrible coach. However, I don’t think he’s done anything in San Diego that overwrites the perception of him before he got to San Diego.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t you think his past performances should be taken with a grain of salt though? He took over a terrible Redskins team and made them pretty good (which some of the worst QBs to ever start), then he took over a terrible Raiders team and did the same thing every coach but Gruden has done there (struggled with the lack of talent).

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe. I do think perception colors his performance, whether he deserves it or not. I don’t think he’s been in the best situations outside of SD, which is pretty much an ideal place to be.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Well it's not like the team was consistently elite under Marty.

They had 2006 where they were first in DVOA, and before that they were 6th, 9th, 24th, and 21st.

Under Turner the Chargers have been 7th, 7th, and 11th, with better playoff success. I’m not sure Turner has done any worse than Marty did.

"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds

by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 4, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not. But that first in DVOA team was much more similar to the 07-09 team in makeup and construction than those teams that finished 24th and 21st, no? So the expectations would be higher.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I think

The 2006 and 2007 teams were very similar, if you forget about changing all the coaches.

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Thoughts on Justin Fargas?

I’ve been daydreaming about Fargas/Jahvid Best being the Chargers RBs all day.

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

I’ve always liked Fargas; he also has a great Speed Score, so his athleticism is sound. I tend to be very heretical about running backs; unless you have someone insane like LT in his prime or Barry Sanders or someone, I’d rather just have two or three cheap backs that play specific roles than one expensive guy who you can have do it all. All of the research we’ve done into running backs suggest that they’re far overrated — for example, injuries to a team’s starting running back has absolutely no impact on the effectiveness of the running game, historically. Injuries to the team’s starting quarterback have had far more of an impact.

Also, as I’ll discuss in this year’s book (and as you all saw this past year), there’s absolutely no relationship between the amount of money a team spends on their running back(s) and success in the running game.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I couldn’t agree more with this.

Chris Johnson this past season belongs in that “LT in his prime” category, yes?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Ooh. Maybe. I think CJ38 had a better line in front of him than LT, though, and our research suggests that running backs get a boost from mobile quarterbacks. So that all helps.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Do RBs get more of a boost from mobile quarterbacks or good passing games? For instance, if Philip Rivers was the QB for the Titans….if Chris Johnson better or worse in 2009?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably mobile quarterbacks, actually. Rivers was so good that CJ38 would probably be about the same. Wow, that would be a scary offense.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

3-4 Defense in San Diego

Is it feasible to maintain the 3-4 system for the Chargers in 2010, considering the rapid decline of Jamal Williams and the heavy importance of a stellar NT for that system to work? Is there anyone out there in the draft who could potentially fill that void?

by Eric Gomez on Mar 4, 2010 10:47 AM PST reply actions  

Sigh

How many times have we been over this? The Chargers are not switching to the 4-3 overnight. It would take a losing season and a change in coaching staff before it was even considered….then the Chargers would have to rebuild their roster to fit that scheme.

(Sorry to steal the answer from you Bill, but this argument is one that bothers me)

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there was a reasonable FO related question in there

Let me try and rephrase it:

Conventional wisdom says that the NT position is critical to a 3-4 defense. Does FO have any analysis on this one way or the other? We’ve been blessed with Jamal for some time now but are getting closer and closer to the day when we need to find his replacement. We know that pro-bowl caliber NTs only come in the first round or so. Do we need to spend a 1st rounder on one (or big FA bucks)?

Or is there a possibility that conventional wisdom is wrong and we don’t need an elite NT, a rotation of solid guys will do? In short: is the 3-4 NT more like the RB position (nice but not critical to have elite talent) or like the QB position (must have elite talent)?

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 4, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s true at all. Williams was a supplemental pick. Pat Williams was undrafted, Kris Jenkins was a second-rounder, as was Shaun Rogers…

I think the NT position is closer to QB than RB. You can sub those guys out in passing situations, but it’s really hard to have a great run D without one.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the NT position is closer to QB than RB

due to educated opinion or actual statistical analysis? (I totally respect your opinion, just curious as to whether FO has worked any of their numbers magic on this particular issue?)

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 4, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Pre-season predictions

First off, please thank your system for getting my hopes up way too high in the preseason by saying the Chargers were stacked in a way that the computers had never seen before.

My question is what do you think kept the Chargers from reaching that potential? Injuries? Coaching? Do you think your computers/system was able to predict just how ineffective LaDainian Tomlinson would be?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

You know, I don’t honestly think they were too far off from our expectations. I forget what the win total we had them projected at was, but they went 13-3 and were pretty close to 14-2. I think our projection was around 12.5, so I’ll take that.

As harsh as it is to blame one guy, who knows what would have happened if Nate Kaeding hadn’t gone 0-of-3 in that game? It was remarkably odd; the Jets had five field goals in a row missed against them in the playoffs, and no team had had five field goals in a row missed against them in 10 years. If either team hits their field goals, the Jets probably lose both of those games.

We definitely did expect more out of LT, though. The Chargers, by our numbers, had the best passing DVOA in the league, but they were last in rushing DVOA (the total added up to fifth). Some of that is on the OL injuries, but some is on LT and Sproles, too.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Kaeding had never gone 0-3 in a game before, playoffs or no.

He only missed three all regular season. And before the Jets game, he had made 6 in a row in the playoffs.

"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds

by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 4, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Sometimes, bad games happen at exactly the wrong time. And sometimes, guys get lucky and their bad moments are forgotten. Remember — Tracy Porter missed a tackle on a key play during the Vikings’ final drive in regulation during the NFC Championship Game, and while I was busy chewing him out, the 12-men in the huddle thing happened and then he picked off Favre on a pass that never needed to be thrown. And then he grabbed that pick-six in the Super Bowl. If the Vikings kick the field goal and none of those accidents happen, Porter’s a goat; instead, he’s a hero.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you factor in things like players decline? Is it different by position? Does it go by age or something else?

In the past few seasons I’ve been saying that LT simply has had too many carries, that he has “too much mileage”, and that he was probably going to fall off dramatically just like Shaun Alexander and/or Edgerrin James. Is this something you guys look at when doing your predictions?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely, we factor in a player’s age and history for projections. We do try and compare guys to similar backs (like Edge) and see what they did at the same age or in the same system.

I think our expectation was that the Chargers’ offense would be so good throwing the ball that LT would be running against six or seven in the box and be able to pick up decent amounts of yardage and lots of short-yardage TDs. That wasn’t the case.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to sound too much like an asshole

but in the future, you might want to forget age when it comes to RBs and look at the number of carries instead. Thomas Jones is a similar back at a similar age that is still performing well because he barely started early in his career.

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

we factor in a player’s age and history

by _ET_ on Mar 4, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

No, I don’t think that’s being an asshole, that’s reasonable advice. When we model things like this, we try different factors to see what has the best relationship with future success. We might take, say, injury rates and see whether knee injuries are more predictive than total injuries, as an example.

Jones also had the best line in the league in front of him last year, too, which helps a lot.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Does Ron Rivera strike you as a good defensive coordinator?

Personally, I haven’t seen much improvement in the San Diego defense since he took over. He seems to me a 4-3 coordinator whose success in Chicago was based largely on having a bunch of great players, rather than any system of his, and is way out of place trying to run a 3-4 defense. What’s your opinion?

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by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 4, 2010 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

They were 23rd this year in DVOA after being 20th in 08 and sixth in 07. I think it’s really impossible to say considering the change in talent; Jamal Williams missed all of this year, and the team spent all year re-configuring the line up front with various castoffs and backups. Shawne Merriman isn’t anything close to the same. At the same time, Eric Weddle’s better than anything the ‘07 Chargers were lining up at safety, too, so it’s hard to say. I’d give him one more year before I made any sort of definitive statement on whether he was a good DC or not.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping he has a similar career development as a lot of draftees

He got his feet wet running the 3-4 at the end of 08. Had a full year calling the plays and getting comfortable in 09(learning the timing of certain plays etc). In 2010 I hope the game “slows down” and has a ‘breakout year’. That would be pretty awesome.

by Natrone Bomb on Mar 4, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

To add to that theory

He brought in several of his old assistants from Chicago this past offseason, so this was their first year teaching players in the ways of the 3-4 (and some of them did quite well). It could only get better from here, right?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

He can’t be much more invisible than he was this year. I hope for his sake he gets better next year.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

College Football

Does FO include anything from college football? When making predictions for teams, I imagine you have to factor in rookies (and therefore factor in past performance, rather than just guessing). How do you go about trying to predict how good/impactful a rookie will be?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

We do factor in rookies, but it’s broader strokes than the individual players. When we’re doing our team projections, we include factors like draft position with the players to form a baseline expectation of how he’ll help.

A sample factor might be “Teams that take tackles in the first five picks of the draft have seen their rushing DVOA improve by ____ and their passing DVOA improve by ____ over the next X seasons.”

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Al Davis and his crazy drafting must completely screw up that system.

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

He screws up a lot of things. I feel bad for Darren McFadden. Guy should be a superstar.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey everyone. I’ll be starting in a moment from the top.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions  

Hey Bill

Thanks again for stopping by and taking the time to answer our questions.

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks man!

We appreciate it!

"I aim to misbehave." - Mal Reynolds

by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 4, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

You're a GM and you have 9 equally average starters for your 3-4 defense

you can afford either a dominant NT and an average edge rusher or a dominant edge rusher and an average NT. What would your decision be?

by Natrone Bomb on Mar 4, 2010 11:17 AM PST reply actions  

Wow. That’s a tough question.

If you had a gun to my head, I would say dominant edge rusher. I think a dominant rusher allows you to do more schematically to compensate for your average talent than a dominant NT does.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

More theoretical than anything

A big question this offseason is whether Larry English getting close (with minimal impact) to the QB a bunch in his rookie season means that he’s either never going to get there or is ready to explode into one of the league’s best pass-rushers.

I’ve always said that elite pass-rushers (particularly OLBs) show that talent right from the start and don’t usually “grow” into a better player over time. Have you done any research on this?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

I don’t think that’s actually the case. I’m sure you can make the example that there are guys who had big first years who then exploded onto the league, but there are enough examples of players slowly growing into their roles as 3-4 OLBs — Andre Tippett comes to mind as an example.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Er, a more recent example would be Bryce Paup, Chris Doleman, or Greg Lloyd. I think English will end up being a fine player.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Worthy of a #16 pick?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think you can say definitively yet. I couldn’t tell you that he’s not going to be worthy of the #16.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

FO and the NFL

I’m sure you hear things about how your advanced stats are used. I’m wondering if there are any teams that you have heard of basing decisions (like free agent signings) on your stats. I’m also curious as to if you’ve heard of any organizations that have been using their own advanced stats for years.

? (token question mark to make it an official question)

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

We have some idea about organizations using their own stats, but they tend to be pretty hush-hush about it.

We do active consulting work for two NFL teams at the moment, whom I cannot name. I know that both they and other teams who we’ve worked with in the past as consultants have made decisions that, at the very least, were informed by our research to consider something they otherwise might not have done. Fortunately, they’ve universally worked out pretty well for the teams in question.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I know it's early

but any predictions on teams that will be great or greatly improved next season?

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

View on free agents

I’d like your view, in terms of value, of the following free agents.

Peppers
Sproles
Chester Taylor

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

Hmm.

I think Peppers is an elite player that, much like any other DL, can appear to be “invisible” when he gets triple-teamed, which is what teams have to do. The Giants tried blocking him 1-on-1 in Week 16 and he single-handedly destroyed their offense. Literally, by himself. It was amazing to watch. I think, as a 3-4 OLB, he’d probably have the most impact of any FA this offseason, although I don’t know where he’d fit in San Diego, which already has Phillips, Merriman, and English competing for time.

Sproles is a player who’s heavy on context. He’s a good return guy, not a great running back, but a great receiver out of the backfield. He needs to be in the right offense to succeed — a pass-happy offense like SD or Philly — but he’s very valuable in those offenses. He’ll always be a health risk, even though he’s only missed one year, so it’s hard to expand his role beyond what he’s done the past two seasons.

Taylor’s like a poor man’s Sproles. Very good on dumpoffs and as a receiver on screens, and while he had that famous fumble earlier this year, he’s usually got reliable hands. I think he’d be a good signing for the Chargers.

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Taylor is a better runner than Sproles. At least he was before Adrian Peterson came to Minny.

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, I have to get back to research. It was fun doing this, though, and there were some really interesting questions to consider. Enjoy free agent day tomorrow, and if you want to chat some more, we’ll be doing a chat at Football Outsiders at 3 PM ET. Thanks!

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by Bill Barnwell on Mar 4, 2010 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by!

It was a blast.

(funny that your comment was left at 3:01pm EST)

"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22

by John Gennaro on Mar 4, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

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