7 Round Mock Draft Continues Today (3/20)
On last week's episode I drafted the first and second round picks for the Chargers. I took Fresno State RB Ryan Matthews in the first and Alabama CB Kareem Jackson. However, that 2nd round was the 60th pick in the draft and we now have the 40th. How do I deal with this? Well, I'm just going to go forward pretending that I drafted a NT with the 40th pick and draft accordingly.
At the time of this post I'm still waiting for my 3rd round pick and I need your help. I really could go any direction with my next picks, so I want your opinions on what position (but not player, I'll decide that) should be drafted in the 3rd and 4th rounds.
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For the 3rd round I’m going to be really tempted to draft USC TE Anthony McCoy if he falls that far, so if you don’t like that make a case for a different position. Right now were are at pick 80 (Chargers pick 91st) and here’s my top 10 remaining:
1.Sean Lee, ILB, Penn State
2. Mike Williams, WR, Syracuse
3. Montarrio Hardesty, RB, Tennessee
4. Alex Carrington, DE, Arkansas State
5. Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford
6. Arthur Jones, DE, Syracuse
7. Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois
8. Dexter McCluster, RB, Mississippi
9. Larry Asante, S, Nebraska
10. Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota
McCoy isn’t in my top 10 basically because I dropped every play at TE on my list just in case they auto drafted a pick for me and I didn’t want a TE picked in the 1st or 2nd round. He will have a lot of value though at 91 and I don’t see much else I’m in love with.
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scratch Asamoah. Add Taylor Price, WR, Ohio to the bottom.
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there go McCoy and McCluster.
Add Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia to the bottom
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with Gerhart and Lee gone Zane Beadles, OG, Utah and Javier Arena, CB, Alabama go to the bottom of the list.
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Id take Hardesty if he fell that far (yes even though you already selected Mathews)
Or look BPA at safety or WR.
Lee is gone.
So is Gerhart.
I’m not taking a RB with Sproles still in the fold.
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I’m thinking Eric Decker. Mike Williams’ character issues scare me a little.
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nope
Remember, he was ahead of Arenas in my rankings.
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yes you did
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I'm 1 pick away
I’m going Eric Decker, but Selvish Capers is tempting.
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too late
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decker had a jacked up injury
i guess it wouldnt matter cause the chargers wouldnt need him to play right away. this mock and many others shows that RB shouldnt be the first pick imo
I still think you're off on that RB opinion
Hardesty and Tate are quality prospects and they are available in the late third in this mock, but they are bigger risks to be starting RBs in 2010. The Chargers shouldn’t really take too many chances at the RB position. They need to get it right.
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I think they can afford to miss on NT (not that I want them to)
Their defense wouldn’t really change much even if they had a quality rookie in the rotation (especially if its two down guys like Cody or Thomas), but a quality or above average RB would make the offense unstoppable.
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I didn't say we couldn't move the ball
But we would stall out at poor times against the better defenses. If we could eliminate that and move the ball to hold a lead, that would be a huge step towards being a SB champion.
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Decker played through that injury
And he seemed to check out at the combine. He has good size and could replace Floyd or Jackson in 2011. In the meantime his size and strength should be a special teams asset.
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In the 4th round I'm more open to drafting a RB
I’ll assume Hardesty is the pick if he’s there. I’m open to selecting Tate as well, but probably not a guy like McKnight. There is also a chance that Tony Pike and Dennis Pitta will be there. Who should I choose between Tate, Pike and Pitta?
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There goes Pitta
But Hardest and Tate are still on the board after 105 picks.
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There goes Hardesty at 108
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There goes Tate at 112
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Why would you be opposed to McKnight in the 4th?
I know Sproles is till on the roster but who knows where he will be in 2011.
He gives me pause.
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His size and lack of experience and character issues concern me.
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The lack of size does not bother me since he would most likely be used as a kick returner and a 3rd down back
He played 3 years at USC in a similar role as to what he would play in SD so the experience does not bother me.
The I know there were some charachter issues about him driving a SUV that belonged to his girlfriends dad or something like that but nothing too major.
I've never seen him play
nor have heard much about him. His stats look good from last season, but that looks like the only year hea started and it was against all weak schools so who knows.
I heard karim
Blew up his pro day. All kinds of “combine” stats. But other than that I haven’t heard a thing about him.
by Its Mikey!! on Mar 20, 2010 2:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
AS Jimmy Raye said
When they look at DII and DIII guys the rule of thumb is that they have to dominate, if they don’t dominate then according to the Chargers that’s a sign that their NFL prospects are slim.
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He is a juco transfer and he blew out his patellar tendon or
something, so he only played as a senior. His stats look great. The salukis played great lst year. They beat Michael turners old team. His pro day was nutballs. 5’ 8.5" 210 lbs. 10’9" broad jump 4.37 40. I would take him late. I would hate for us to pass on another Rashad Jennings type guy.
Here's 2 names
Linval Joseph a NT out of East Carolina and Tony Washington the OT from Abilene
Joseph is already picked
How do we feel about Washington being a registered sex offender?
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First round talent in the third, not nice guy
Doesn’t sound like a charger pick, but Carl Nicks has worked out for the Saints in a similar circumstance. How about Torrell Troup from Central Florida??
He's gone as well
Remember, I’m operating under the assumption that the Chargers drafted Cam Thomas or Terrence Cody.
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Abilene Christian OT Tony Washington reportedly had sex with his 15-year-old biological sister when he was 16, and is a registered sex offender.
It’s believed the sexual act, which occurred in May 2003, was consensual. “I made a mistake at the age of 16, and for that, I am deeply sorry,” he said in a statement. “I will not try and excuse or justify anything.” Washington, who might be a first-round prospect based on size, length, and athleticism alone, was a big recruit at LSU in 2005. He originally received five years’ probation and no jail time. Washington is reportedly now on good terms with the sister.
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Damn that’s messed up.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 20, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't seem like something
That wouldn’t keep him from being a good football player and stay out of trouble, but it is a tough PR move for whoever drafts him.
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Yeah
I get the sex with the 15 year old when you’re 16. The sister part is weird. The thing is, you’d technically have to register as a sex offender for either offense. The curious part is, who pressed charges? His own parents? It wouldn’t be the first time that Texas law got me confused though.
Is this getting too morbid?
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a statutory criminal offense
is an offense against the state. so technically the state presses charges.
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Okay, let me rephrase
16 year olds and 15 year olds get in on every day. They even get caught a lot. Not a lot of them end up registered as sex offenders, even when there is a pregnancy involved.
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i thought someone had to be 18
i could be wrong though
Gary Potter: Harness in the good energy, block out the bad. Harness. Energy. Block. Bad. It's like a carousel. You put the quarter in, you get on the horse, it goes up and down, and around. Circular, circle. Feel it. Go with the flow.
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Agreed.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 20, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's a few more names:
Morgan Burnett S Georgia Tech
Greg Hardy OLB Ole Miss
George Selvie OLB South Florida
Mike Johnson OG Alabama
Kyle Calloway RT Iowa
Only Hardy is left.
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I don’t think Hardy has the speed to play OLB. He’ll need to be a DE in a 4-3.
Whoops. I thought the 4th was Micah Johnson, ILB, Kentucky. Mike Johnson is still there I think, but the Chargers are kind of deep at OG I think.
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whoops again
Mike Johnson and Micah Johnson are both gone.
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Lets try a few more
Andre Roberts WR Citadel
JD Walton C Baylor
Ciron Black OT LSU
Jacoby Ford WR Clemson
D’Anthony Smith DE Lousiana Tech
Roberts and Smith are still available. I already drafted a WR and we seem to be set at DE.
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Oh and if I recall correctly the scouting report on Smith is that he doesn’t stand a chance as a 3-4 DE. He’s a penetration guy and sucks against double teams.
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I just checked the draft so far
I’m kinda shocked he hasn’t gone yet is Rob Grokowski TE Arizona
it's okay
It’s tough to follow.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Av3Fah0qKP1idG0yTVZjWFJrcUZYM3J3TUZsU1hYVGc&hl=en is somewhat up to date with who has been picked.
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Out of who remains:
Vince Oghobaase DE/NT Duke
Selvish Capers OT West Virginia
Mitch Petrus OG/C Arkansas
Jeff Owens NT Georgia
Cameron Sheffield OLB Troy
Larry Asante S Nebraska
after the next pick I'll give my top 10 remaining (since it'll be 10 picks until ours)
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With 9 picks until the Chargers 4th round pick
1. Mike Williams, WR, Syracuse
2. Larry Asante, S, Nebraska
3. Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
4. Zane Beadles, OG, Utah
5. Desmon Briscoe, WR, Kansas St.
6. Riley Cooper, WR, Florida
7. Joe McKnight, RB, USC
8. David Reed, WR, Utah
9. Brandon Lang, OLB, Troy
10. Andre Roberts, WR, Citadel
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possibly.
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I'm thinking Capers
If he’s there, I don’t see how I can pass him up.
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yeah that would be an ok pick
But O line is in an odd spot for the bolts, its like they have a ton of project guys on the roster at the moment.
Value and Need definitely Capers
If not Asante
I'm thinking
Asante is basically a slightly younger Ellison with less upside.
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I’m thinking no. The MockingTheDraft.com BPA list has him currently at #3.
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He'd definitely be a quality gunner, but I still see future starters left
I may need to review where I have some of my WRs ranked.
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I think he could be an ok slot guy in the NFL
but the bolts really don’t utilize the slot all that much, and I don’t see him beating out Naanee for that spot any time soon.
who did you take in the third?
The 7 round mock is up to 78th pick in terms of the update
Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota
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Here a name:
John Skelton QB Fordham, he could be our new clibboard charlie, its always necessary to have a development QB, maybe in the 5th it would be better. But NFL Network is pushing him.
Of the guys left, I like
Tony Pike, Cincinnati and Jarrett Brown, West Viriginia.
Skelton is mixed in with guys like Canfield and Nichols in the next tier.
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Don't know on either Brown and Pike
Pike seems almost exclusively a West Coast offense guy, and Brown seems a little inaccurate and below average on decision making, high ceiling though. Skelton is more accurate, good arm and has played more.
I completely disagree on Pike
He’s a spread offense, pocket passer type. Which is kind of what Rivers is at this point. He’s also tall like Rivers and would have a good trajectory to our taller receivers.
Pike isn’t mobile enough for the WCO.
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Brown is a big time project
He will need time to develop.
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Do you think the bolts will pick thier 3rd sting QB in the 4th round?
I know they did with Chuck White (in the 3rd) but it was a little different then since it was before the Volek trade and before Rivers established himself as one of the best QBs in the NFL.
Probably not, the soonest is the 5th
They probably will take someone like Canfield in the 6th round
I think it depends on who is available and who they like
I don’t think they planned to take Whitehurst but they really liked him and he had good value where they selected him.
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If there is QB they think is a 3rd round value available in the 4th
And no one else who slipped also available, then they may pull the trigger.
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McKnight is gone.
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And there go Hardy and Pike
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Pike to the Cardinals
Makes sense.
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No need for argument then
I just not convinced on Pike arm for the push it up the field chargers
If Capers is gone I have no clue who I'm picking.
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Capers it is
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Good Value
Capers is a third round value, I have my doubts that he will truly make the fourth round. But it would be a very good pick.
He's a good pass protector
But shaky with the run. Could they platoon him with Clary? LOL.
I’m really surprised he lasted this long. These guys had been reaching for OTs in the last mock, I’m surprised he slipped through. My hunch is that many assumed he was picked. Their loss is my gain. Mockingly.
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Would he start or would he start on the bench?
I’m not biggest fan Clary/Dombrosky so I would start him, but he probably wouldn’t help our pathetic 3.4 ypc. The running game has to be the top priority in preseason, in terms of practice time.
thats kind of what I mean in that the Chargers already have too many
O-Line projects on their roster.
I’m not big on Clary, but I like Dombrowski. Not enough to keep from hedging my bets with a value pick in the 4th round. I don’t foresee Capers beating out either of them for a job in 2010.
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I would go for
Sheffield from Troy
Kam Chancellor FS Virginia Tech
Myron Rolle FS Florida St (I like smart guys on my team)
I kind of like Lang more than Sheffield
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