The San Diego Chargers Will Draft Tim Tebow (Maybe!)
Everyone knows I have an affinity for Charlie Whitehurst, but few know why. My reasons are fairly simple. It started in college, where Charlie was inconsistent but could take over games with his arm or legs. He won big games, seemed to always be fired up (similar to how Tebow and Philip Rivers act on the field) and looked like he hated losing a thousand times more than he liked winning. I love players like that and, in my mind, Charlie was Tim Tebow (before the world fell in love with Tebow), just with less of a surrounding cast.
I was quite excited when Whitehurst was drafted by the Chargers in the 3rd round (81st overall) of the 2006 NFL Draft. I didn't think he was going to come up and subplant Rivers as the starter, but I had high hopes of Whitehurst become a great backup QB and occasionally doing things like running end-arounds for TDs. Turns out, Chuck was a wise investment. Here's why Tebow should be picked, as an equal or greater investment:
1. The Precedant. Like I said, Tebow reminds me of Whitehurst. A great leader, a winner and a great option as your backup QB. Both players faced questions about being to have success at the NFL level. It's slightly different, because Tebow was perfectly built in Florida's not-at-all-pro offense and teams worry if he'd every be able to take a snap, drop back and throw an accurate pass. Whitehurst had proven that he could do that, sometimes, but needed more consistentcy. I still think it would be a similar move if the Chargers added Tebow to their draft class.
2. The Value. I probably should have said this earlier, but I do not want the Chargers to use their first round pick on Tebow. I don't even want them to use their second round pick on him. This whole post is an argument for the Chargers to use their 3rd round pick (which I believe would be somewhere around #90 overall) on Tebow. That would be slightly lower than where Whitehurst was taken, and if all else fails we could turn around in 4 years and turn Tebow into an excellent package of draft picks. Heck, with his built-in fanbase the Chargers could probably turn him into a first-rounder with a few good preseason showing.
3. The Backup QB. We all know that Billy Volek is one of the best backup QBs in the league. Did you also know he is 33 years old? Probably doesn't matter much for a backup QB, but it does matter for a guy that always wishes he had his chance to start in the NFL somewhere. Did you also know that his contract is up after this season? Similar to Charlie going to Seattle to possibly be a starter, there will be teams offering Volek the starting job (or at least a shot at it) if he leaves San Diego in 2011. I wouldn't be surprised, or offended, if he took one and left. However, without a QB waiting in the wings as the 3rd QB, that could leave the Chargers in a lurch.
4. The Friend (aka The Competitor). This is a little-known secret that GMs don't talk about much publicly, but plenty privately. If you can get the star player on your team to become very good friends with another, much-easier-to-keep player on the team, contract negotiations will be much simpler. I know Rivers is locked up for a while, but it should still play into the minds of the front office guys to pounce on the chance to get somebody that Rivers might enjoy playing/working with. Now consider the similarities between Rivers and Tebow:
- Funky throwing motion
- Fiery on the field/Great leader (Would do anything to win)
- Southern/religious. Think Rivers might like having another guy arounnd that can get fired up without cursing?
- Undying work ethic. Whether you love Tebow or are sick of hearing about him, several things about him cannot be denied. One is that he works harder than just about any college football player on his game. This will not only help him to turn into a pro QB one day, I think, but will also be a match made in heaven between him and Rivers (who is the same way).
5. The Locker Room Anti-Cancer. Let's not beat around the bush, A.J. Smith hates guys that creatr trouble off the field. He doesn't like signing them to contracts, and he doesn't like them in his locker room. This is why, when there may have been better options, he's done everything he could to secure the smart/safe/secure players like Jacob Hester and Eric Weddle. Tim Tebow is guaranteed to be a great influence in the locker room and a good citizen once he goes home. That's going to entice Mr. Smith to at least consider this possibility.
6. Big Game Experience. Do I even need to go into details? The Chargers GM has shown an affinity for players that play for more than just 2 years. Rivers was a 4 year starter and I believe Whitehurst started about 3.5 of his 4 seasons in college. Tebow was a 4 year starter at Florida, winning two championships and playing in the league's toughest division. A case could be made that no QB in the history of the NFL Draft was coming to the table with more "big game experience". There's little concern about Tebow "freaking out" if he ever gets thrown into a pressured NFL situation.
So there you go. An undeniable case for the Chargers to reserve their 3rd round pick for Tebow. As far as the Chargers go, I think he passes every test they have for that empty 3rd QB role (that may need to be the 2nd QB next season). As far as BFTB goes, there's only one more test. How does he look with some hair and a beard?
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Most "experts" are saying that Tebow would do well if a team drafted him that..
1. Had an established QB to learn from
2. Had 3+ years to develop him
3. Had an offensive minded coach that was QB-friendly
SD has all three, and he could be used in some packages as a H-back/Wildcat type player.
The torch has been passed, and Henne has added fuel to the fire!
I can just see the stories now about Tebow and Rivers having the most heated competitions in training camp. It’d be so great.
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Going to the Chargers would be a great think for Tebows development
but I don’t think he will be on the board when the Bolts pick in the third.
by Steve (Grey Suit) on Mar 19, 2010 7:27 AM PDT reply actions
I used to hate him...
just cause. Unfortunately for me, I am starting to not hate him so much.
I wouldn’t be opposed to using a 3rd day pick on him though. Just as long as he doesn’t get all Jesus-sey.
You forgot the the most obivious comparison: the Jesus Factor. Who better to replace Clipboard Jesus then the actual Second Coming himself?
by CABurrito on Mar 19, 2010 7:42 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously though
I know this is all in fun, but please don’t let it happen for real.
1) Funky throwing motion
If by funky you mean “slow as hell”. Rivers has a quick release. Tebow’s is the opposite. You just can’t have that and be a top flight NFL QB.
Bill Walsh wrote about how to select a QB. There were a lot of cliches and generalities about needing a guy with football smarts, athleticism, competitive fire and all that.
There was only one specific thing that Walsh said: the QB can never lower the ball below his hip. It can’t happen. The one specific thing that Bill said a QB can’t do in the NFL is the thing that Tebow does. I know he’s tried to fix it last year, but as soon as pressure came he reverted to his old, slow delivery.
I have thought about this
But it really makes no sense for us. Tebow will need to be used as an H-back type player, and we already have 2 or 3 guys that fit that role (Wilson and Hester for sure).
Furthermore, if you expect Tebow to be the #3 QB, then he isn’t allowed to actually play in games.
I am not so sure how the 3rd QB stuff works, but if I recall correctly, as soon as you sub-in the 3rd string QB then either the 1st or 2nd stringer is no longer allowed to return to the game. I know for sure at least one can’t come back in, but I am not sure if it’s both.
If you guys think back to the Dolphins can this year you’ll remember when Pennington went down and they brought in Henne. They weren’t able to use their third stringer (Pat White) in wildcat formations without then being forced to remove Henne for good.
There is no place for Tebow on this team. However, I do think he will make a good H-back in the NFL.
It’s both the #1 and #2 QB. After the #3 QB comes in, the #1 and #2 guys cannot return unless the #3 guy gets hurt.
The post above was written from the stance of “Tebow is a QB”, not “Tebow is an H-back”.
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by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Needless to say, he's a project
If Tebow thinks he’s going to step in and be a starting QB somewhere, he’s sadly mistaken. If he’s prepared to put in the long, hard work necessary, then he could be a valuable asset, and why not with the Chargers?
But if his competitive fire burns too bright, he needs to think about changing positions.
by Andy (allfield) on Mar 19, 2010 8:00 AM PDT reply actions
I’ve always heard that Tebow is a guy that not only is willing to put in the hard work that’s necessary, he actually enjoys doing it.
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
It definitely seems that way
He appears to be accepting to coaches and scouts tweaking and fine tuning his delivery (which needs a LOT of tweaking and fine tuning). That bodes well for a guy who’s gonna have ride pine/hold clipboard for a few years until he’s NFL ready — as a QB.
If he’s good with all that, then I’m much more on board with him being a Charger today than I was yesterday.
by Andy (allfield) on Mar 19, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I've always been a fan of Tebow.
1. I live in Lake City, FL. About 20 miles from Gainesville.
2. My uncle used to be the defensive coordinator for the Gators in 95 before he went on to coach Marshall University. His name is Bob Pruett.
I would love for Tebow to craft his game in SD!
My faith in the San Diego Chargers will always be at maximum strength for as long as I live. CHARGERS ROLLLL!
by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Mar 19, 2010 8:00 AM PDT reply actions
Name dropper
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
dude
I know, it’s like totally lame. I’m going to go tell one of my friends who’s big on the internet. His name is Obviousman? You might know him if you were cool like me
by not humble enough on Mar 19, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
How about this....
Tim Tebow is our “project TE” and our 3rd string QB. He would have a good knowledge of the offense, get in on more plays, and as a 3rd stringer, still be active on game day.
Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.
Meh.
I wouldn’t be horrified at the pick. It would make some sense if Tebow is there at #91 and we’ve already got a NT and RB. I’m not exactly salivating over this: I think the #3 QB spot is kind of extraneous, and I’m really skeptical of QBs who succeed in college in ways that don’t work in the pros. But a 3rd-rounder isn’t a scary investment, and we will need to replace Volek eventually.
FWIW, I don’t consider piety (or expressions of piety) to reflect much on one’s character, one way or another.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Mar 19, 2010 9:12 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
this
Gary Potter: Harness in the good energy, block out the bad. Harness. Energy. Block. Bad. It's like a carousel. You put the quarter in, you get on the horse, it goes up and down, and around. Circular, circle. Feel it. Go with the flow.
Happy Gilmore: Psycho.
Then who is QB2 in 2011 when Volek is gone?
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Re-sign him
He’s got a good gig and knows it, while a bit old, it’s not like he’s taken a bunch of hits and he can still put mustard on the ball.
Tebow is too much circus for a backup QB, IMO.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Mar 19, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Volek never got the chance to start. The idea that his backup might now be getting a chance to start is going to gnaw at him. That’s why I think he’ll go somewhere else next year, good job here or not.
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
It could be
but I agree with Stephen, at his age it’s unlikely he would get hired as the starter. Volek’s best shot is if the #1 QB goes down, and what better place than a team with depth in receivers. The Seahawks were getting flak about Whitehurst at the ripe old age of 27, it would take a gutsy FO to hire Volek as the prime starter.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Mar 19, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Garcia was offered starting QB jobs four times after he was 33.
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he had a track record
and a pro bowl appearance. A FO that hands it’s franchise over to a 34 year old QB with the stellar record of 3-7 is going to have some splaining to do. I’m not saying it can’t happen, but it seems unlikely.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Mar 19, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Cleveland, St. Louis and Seattle are three places that would probably be bringing him in this season.
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love to be in Volek's shoes right now
Sure, if he stays he’ll never get to start. But as a back-up he gets to be close
to the action, works out in practice and plays in the preseaon but never really
has to worry about getting hurt. Still gets paid handsomely, but
probably won’t have to deal with any bigtime injuries this close to retirement.
if he leaves for a team that needs a starter right now (next year, of course) he’s probably going to be put into a bad situation and will most likely be taking a lot of shots.
by riversformvp on Mar 19, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
When the Chargers re-signed Volek a few years ago
they let him look around to see if a team would let him compete for the starting job, I think Volek ended up re-signing like a week later or something.
by Steve (Grey Suit) on Mar 19, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, but QB situations around the league have probably changes in the three years since.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 19, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
And Volek has gotten older in the 3 years since
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Well Volek did sign a FA deal here a few years back to be Rivers backup
Any particular reason why he wouldn’t again? I guess someone could throw starter money at him, but I wonder why they didn’t a few years back. He has a pretty good gig here and could fill his current role for another 5 years or so.
He has done a few things to make other teams think he might be starter material, but he will be 34 which is a little long in the tooth to become a new starting QB. Its not like he has the track record of a Farve or Warner, Volek may just be seen as a career backup.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 19, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was traded by Tennessee for a 6th.
And there was some personal thing going on between him and the Titans’ coaching staff, if I remember properly.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Mar 19, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
yup
traded here during training camp the same year Whitehurst was drafted.
We resigned him to a 3 year deal in 2008 (not sure if it was an extension or if his old deal had ended)
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 19, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
The old deal ended
he signed as a FA
by Steve (Grey Suit) on Mar 19, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
turd sandwiches never get tackled.
it’s true
by not humble enough on Mar 19, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Tebow would be a wasted pick
Just because we got lucky this time. Doesn’t mean we’ll get lucky again. The stars aligned just the right way for us and Whitehurst.
Besides, we need guys who can play now or next year. We’ve got weaknesses in many positions and many of our key players are peaking now.
by The Gorn on Mar 19, 2010 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Tebow would be a project
But you are assuming that Al Davis doesn’t just pick him up because he heard the name between his meds and oatmeal. Or that another team with a solid QB doesn’t burn a pick on him earlier. Also assuming that Norv is going to make it the three years to bring this guy along. Another one and done in the playoff and people will be looking to mount his head on the main gate at the Q. Mind you a 3rd round pick isn’t going to break the Bolts. But realize you have to make a commitment to build this project.
if he's still on the board
Why not? We will need a no. 3 qb just in case. I guess aj could pick up an un-drafted qb, or wait and see who gets cut when teams trim their rosters, but a third rounder wouldn’t be a bad pick. And, if they wanted to use him, list naanee as the no 3 and list tebow as a hb or te that way he can play without forcing rivers/volek to the sidelines. I mean with the wildcat, teams line up their rb behind center, so why not?
3rd round picks are valuable
and shouldn’t be wasted on #3 QBs When Whitehurst was drafted he was supposed to be the backup, but we were also able to get Volek later on which pushed Whitehurst to #3 on the depth chart.
A 3rd round pick should be able to come in a contribute (or even start) right away. Vasquez did this year, as did Hardwick and Kaeding in the past. I think Tebow is going to be off the board by the time the value/round equation for the Chargers evens up (round 6 or so?)
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 19, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
CB depth
more important than 3rd string QB at this point. Jammer is getting up there and probably won’t stay healthy through the season.
right about taking a CB with one of our top three picks
wrong about Jammer. 30 is close to prime time for CBs.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 19, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
indeed, and when CB’s are really getting up there, they usually switch over to safety. and i couldn’t think of a better future strong safety than jammer.
"Watch out where the huskies go, don't you eat that yellow snow."- Zappa
indeed
jammer has said so himself.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 19, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally Agree
There are more important holes that need to be filled. The loss of Cromartie means Cason or newly acquired Strickland will be starting opposite Jammer. Jammer is 30 or 31 and Cason lost his job as the nickel back last season. The team needs a legitimate NT, a RB, and a CB. Drafting a 3rd string QB in the 3rd round just doesn’t make any sense. There will probably be several other QB projects available in later rounds.
When was the last time Jammer missed a game due to injury?
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by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 19, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
He's a beast
But you have to think about it long term. He’ll be 31 in June. He’s not going to be a lockdown CB forever. More importantly who is going to start on the other side?
Antoine Cason.
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by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Not Sure
Cason lost his job as the Nickel last year. If you can’t play nickel……….you can’t be a reliable #2 CB
disagree
nickel is different from cb
by not humble enough on Mar 19, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A.J. disagrees
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Completely and totally incorrect.
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by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re vastly different positions.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 19, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Jammer's gone down
with cramps in a few games now; the playoff with the Steelers being the most memorable. He does have a lot of miles on him…
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Mar 19, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s the cold. Most people cramp up in the heat. Jammer cramps up when it’s cold.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 19, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Cramps can be common in the cold
Players forget to drink water because of the lack of heat. But, they still sweat so they do need water to battle dehydration (a key ingredient in cramps).
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Liar.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 19, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Come again?
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What?
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Mar 19, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Weddle
took Jammer out twice last year if I recall with bad collisions.
by Bluelightning on Mar 20, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I do recall such incidents
But neither actually knocked Jammer out of a game.
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What if...
We trade the #28 and #40 to Jacksonville to move to the #10. They take Tebow with one of their picks, and get value because they don’t need such high picks. We take CJ Spiller.
Then we trade our #3 from Seattle in 2011(nearly a #2) and our #3/#2 from the Jets(again nearly 2nd round value) to a team for at #2 pick this year. Then we get Cam Thomas or Mt.Cody.
I would need to change my pants.
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Not bad grammar. Just recollections of a deranged killer.
If they trade to #10, then they're taking Dan Williams.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 19, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
We really need C.J. Spiller
And to trade for the other Buster Davis, and get both Roy Williamses. Then, with C.J. Spiller and C.J. Spillman, nobody will know what to think!
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Mar 19, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I disagree
There’s literally no RB besides Sproles right now. I’m not counting Tolbert and Hester. The D-line would need to find room for a new person. The more they re-sign people from last year, the more I think they’re making a play for Spiller.
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by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with John here
Trading up seems like a 75% chance its for Spiller.
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Yeah, but they wouldn't have to go that high to get Spiller.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Mar 19, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
Trading up to number 10 will cost more than the #28 and #40 anyway, so I considered that part of the conversation silly. I’m just saying that trading up in general is probably a 75% chance that its a play for Spiller.
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If they trade up for Spiller
I will disown AJ. I dont know about everyone else, but I think RBs are overrated. And although I know its speculative I doubt he’s even the best back in the draft. If we trade up I want it to be for DWill.
That's silly
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by Wonko on Mar 19, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Quite Silly
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by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure A.J. thinks running backs are overrated, too.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 19, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Or...
We trade #40 and Floyd to Jacksonville for #10 and their 3rd next year. Then we get Spiller or Williams still have #28 for Cody or Mathews, and Jacksonville gets Tebow and a good WR at his peak. I mean, it’s not like they’re going to groom their own WRs, no matter where they draft. And we were going to have to let a starting WR go next year anyway, and we’re hoarding those 3rd-round 2011 picks for a reason.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Mar 19, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
are we trying to get every 3rd round pick in 2011?
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 19, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't that be awesome?
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Mar 19, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
That would be pretty awesome. Let’s go for it.
That’d be funny if the whole plan blew up in our faces because we ended up getting the Jets 2nd pick instead of their 3rd.
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by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps your worst idea ever
I would hate to see the Chargers select Tebow with a third round pick.
You talk about what a fiery competitive leader he is, yet you think he would be happy just to be Phillip’s friend and compete with him in practice for the next five plus years. I don’t see it. That coupled with the fact that I don’t see him as a big time NFL passer, maybe if we run the ball as often as the jets and change our entire offense.
I don’t know if anybody really needs him, but I feel pretty certain that the Chargers don’t.
it’s because of the hair isn’t it???
…
isn’t it?
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 19, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Oddly enough
I got tired of having long hair in the mid 80’s, so Tebow and I have a very similar cut. I would probably also be almost equally as effective as the Chargers third string QB.
ok, its not about the hair
but I do think you’re way off base with calling this John’s worst idea ever. That is incredibly short sighted. Don’t you remember when he suggested we trade Vincent Jackson for Ted Ginn Jr. and a 2nd round pick?
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Mar 19, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
Rec’d
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Mar 19, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
And John says we never make anything green.
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by Wonko on Mar 19, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
hahaha
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Mar 19, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Acee says no
He thinks Canfield on the 3rd day.
I like Jarret Brown or Matt Nichols.
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Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Quarterbacks are a tricky business
Especially ones that are fringy like Pike. There is no consensus on Pike. Some will see him as a college system QB who will never develop past being a fringy backup QB. Others see him as a development guy where he’d be ready anywhere from 1 year – 3 years down the road, depending on who you ask.
With that lack of QB depth in free agency and the draft and a number of teams with questionable QB situations. It seems likely that some team will see him as their QB of the future and draft him between the 2nd and 4th (remember Quincy Carter went in the 2nd, so I don’t pretend to know where all the GMs think a specific QB should be taken). This choice could come well before any team, like the Chargers, who need a developmental 3rd string QB would be willing to take one. On the other hand, the teams in need of QBs may have other preferences and go in other directions and even though they like Pike they could get to pick someone they like more. This would cause Pike to slip and he could be available late for a developmental pick. It’s really anybody’s guess with QBs.
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Referencing a move Jerry Jones made, that was responded to with “Uh oh, he’s finally turning into Al Davis”, as a characterization of all GMs should get you banned. That was a low-down dirty trick.
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by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I could think of others.
That one just came to mind.
Even the Eagles drafting Kevin Kolb is kind of an example of a QB going in a spot that was a little off. Sure, some liked him in the 2nd round, but not if you weren’t drafting him to be the starter soon. I’m just saying that QBs get taken off the boards at odd times. Sometimes its way higher than the “consensus” and other times its way lower. Or not at all like Brian Hoyer last year.
And… aren’t Jerry Jones and Al Davis still a part of drafting for their teams?
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Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Tarvaris Jackson by Min in the 2nd round
Brian Brohm by GB in the 2nd round
Kevin O’Connell by NE in the 3rd round
Stephen McGee by Dal in the 4th round
Matt Schaub by Atl in the 3rd round
Charlie Whitehurst by SD in the 3rd round
David Garrard by Jax in the 4th round
Rohan Davey by NE in the 4th round
All these guys were either picked by teams that people didn’t necessarily know were going to be picking a QB high and/or picked higher than their projected value. That’s why its tricky. There’s a certain amount of unpredictability in both how teams are evaluating the position and how teams interpret their roster need for the position.
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by Wonko on Mar 19, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's not forget
Tom Brady by NE in the sixth round, whom the Chargers also came close to drafting.
"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman
by Brian (DaBolts) on Mar 19, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think that was too unexpected
Guys like Brady get drafted in the 6th. The Patriots were exactly overflowing with developmental QBs.
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*weren't exactly
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The Patriots carried four QBs that year
which is pretty rare, but I guess he didn’t go higher than expected…
"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman
by Brian (DaBolts) on Mar 19, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
We are talking about
the year he was drafted.
"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman
by Brian (DaBolts) on Mar 20, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
i enjoyed it better with the typo intact
something about the idea of a team “exactly” overflowing with QBs. if there had been but one more, it would have been a deluge.
by The Train on Mar 19, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And one fewer, it would have been containment.
Unless it’s the right three QBs… because you cannot even hope to contain Charlie Whitehurst.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Mar 19, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The only way we could get Tebow would be to use our first or high second rounder on him.
Neither of those picks are worth a backup QB.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
WTF is hacksaw talking about
He’s flaming rumors about about the Chargers trading SP or Coop. Why do I even listen to this guy.
Why do I even listen to this guy.
Your radio’s broke and only picks up one station?
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Mar 19, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Or you're like me
You’d rather be angry at the idiot radio host than at the idiots driving next to you since there is less you can do about the idiot radio host and doing something about the idiots driving next to you can be self-destructive.
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Not a fan of listening to music while you drive?
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Mar 23, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I've heard most of it all before
So it lets my mind wander. And when it starts to wander it gets angry at idiots doing idiotic things. I’m more focused when listening to talk radio.
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Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Idiots saying idiotic things is less likely to anger you?
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Mar 24, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No
It is equally likely. But, I prefer to be mad at someone I can’t actually see. And sometimes they don’t say too many idiotic things and then I’m pleasant distracted for the drive.
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Tebow will never reach pick 91
but I enjoy hearing new theories about the draft instead of the same regurgitated mock draft picks.
So while we’re throwing different ideas out there I think there’s a very good chance AJ tries to move up in the draft. The question is what position and what do we give up? I think trading Merriman or Sproles for an early 2nd round pick is likely and this would allow us to move up and still keep at least one 2nd round pick. We could move in any of the slots from 9-20.
This draft is loaded with talent but there are several players that will go in the first half of the first round that are a cut above the rest in terms of their respective positions. This includes Spiller, Dan Williams, Berry, Haden, McClain, D. Bryant. Although it’s more likely we go after Spiller or Dan Williams I could also see us taking Berry, Haden, McClain, Bryant, especially if one of them falls significantly. One of the top 4-5 OT’s could be targeted as well. Berry and McClain are the most intriguing to me because of their leadership and intangibles combined with world class athleticism. The Chargers have been without a defensive identity for several years now and I think either of those players could change that.
40/60
He makes it to pick 91.
My money is that the Jags would use their 3rd round pick on him.
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Agreed
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be willing to bet on that proposition Wonko
If you’re up for it. If Tebow makes it to pick 91 I’ll give you 60 bucks. If not, then you hand me 40 bucks. Deal?
by mikethemover on Mar 19, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be nice to have Berry play next to Weddle
Ahh, we can dream…
by riversformvp on Mar 19, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
This reminds me of a UT article
Of trading Phillip Rivers (while we still had Brees) to the Texans for the No. 1 pick, and getting Reggie Bush.
Although we did kinda had LT at the time, the article was proposing using him at slot a lot more, basically make him SuperSproles I guess. It was a very silly article. (But so is this one. But it’s fun)
Did that one come with a picture titled “Tebow of Nazareth”?
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW
BFTB Graphic Designer QuesaDiaz gets credit for it.
"When they come for me I'll be sitting at my desk, with a gun in my hand wearing a bullet-proof vest, singing 'My, my, my, how the time does fly when you know you're going to die by the end of the night.'" - Catch 22
by John Gennaro on Mar 19, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
From my favorite college team
to my favorite NFL team. Now that’d be cool and just like what happened with Siler. He might bring more of a winning attitude to the team (which it definitely needs during the early parts of the season and the playoffs).
Still, I’d rather seem him go to the Jags but I doubt those idiots will draft him. They’ll listen to their ‘scouts’ and draft another bunch of defensive busts.
I didn't know
that Tebow is the son of Randy Savage.
by Blue or CONKZILLA on Mar 21, 2010 10:38 AM PDT reply actions

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