Trading for Tashard Choice
I'm a Cowboys fan living in SD and I recently heard rumors that the Chargers were interested in trading the Cowboys for Choice. I would hate for the Cowboys to trade him but I'm interested in what Chargers fans think about this and what you would be willing to give up for a back like this. I think he will/is a great back and will be a starter some day soon for someone.
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I think he’d actually be a pretty good fit
by gman87 on Feb 8, 2010 4:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would like
to see him in the backfield. He apparently has some college experience in third down roles such as pass blocking and catching screens. But then again I saw a scouting report that said he had trouble with receiving. I haven’t watched him as a Cowboy much so I can’t speak to his experience as a pro, but he does have some receptions. So he could be a good fit.
I heard the ’Boys may be looking at getting rid of Newman for some reason. Any truth to that? Because we have three starting caliber corners on the roster. Speculation is fun.
by aesimpleton on Feb 8, 2010 5:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes there has been talk that the Cowboys might part ways with Newman. I personally like him but he does get injured a lot and he has been passed up as the #1 corner on the team. I have told my Charger friends that trading for a Cowboys RB would be smart on their part. I like all 3 but i think I would rather give up Barber than Jones or Choice. I think Either Choice or Barber would do great in SD. I hope the Cowboys are smart enough to at least get a 2nd rd pick out of this if any of it is true
by wreckem619 on Feb 9, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Choice is the Boys’ best back, as crazy as that sounds. But the Chargers cant give up a 2nd for him, I proposed our late 3rd, maybe our third and a late round selection in 2011. Running backs are just to easy to plug in to command much value in a trade, even young good ones with little wear like Choice.
If you guys are interested in a corner, word is our GM is shopping a pretty good one in Cromartie. How about Cro for Choice and your 3rd?
by AirNorval on Feb 9, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He may be the best at running the ball
I think Barber makes up ground on Choice in pass protection. I could be wrong though.
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by Wonko on Feb 9, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like a deal for both teams.
by DIRE WOLF on Feb 9, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt think Cromartie could tackle. But you could always use more corners. But I wouldnt give up Choice and our 3rd for Cro, thats crazy. I actually think Jones is the best back but he isn’t a 20+ carry back. Are their any other back the Chargers are looking at, FA or draft?
by wreckem619 on Feb 9, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cromartie can't tackle.
He looks so afraid of contact out there that I am beginning to think that Cromartie is a hemophiliac.
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by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
Cromartie plays as physical as Haloti Ngata, and hits as hard as Ray Lewis.
Is this working?
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by CaDuck on Feb 10, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen him hit as hard as Ray Lewis
He trucked someone real good in the first half of the season.
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by Wonko on Feb 10, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do remember that,
And I honestly thought that would be the turning point as to where he began much more physical play. We all know it was not.
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by CaDuck on Feb 11, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that was on accident.
I remember him looking a little surprised at himself.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 11, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember him looking very full of himself.
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by Wonko on Feb 11, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cro is a above avg corner
IMO he’s well above avg even if he isnt a good tackler, and likely worth a low 2nd or high 3rd; considering position value alone. RBs just arent worth what they use to be, teams are just platooning the position these days. The Chargers are likely looking at double dipping in the draft at RB and bringing in a scrub vet or keeping Bennett, the current scrub vet, who is not that bad.
I dont think Sproles resigns here anyways. I would be happy if the Chargers wait until mid rounds to draft a back or two.
Would rather us go with the scrub and rookie overwieight backfield and get a cheeseburger eaters first day in the draft.
by AirNorval on Feb 10, 2010 2:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How about Cro for Choice. And we swap your 3rd for our 4th?
by AirNorval on Feb 10, 2010 2:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’d be a great pickup, but it would also be somewhat uncharacteristic of this organization.
I’d give up a 2nd rounder for him.
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by John Gennaro on Feb 8, 2010 6:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they can pretend he's a WR
until the trade negotiations are over?
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by Wonko on Feb 9, 2010 1:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The one thing I am sure of is that the team is willing to make a trade if they think the need is there. They needed a backup RB and a FB, so they traded to get Jacob Hester. They needed a WR, so they traded to get Chambers. They needed a blocking TE for the left-side of the line, so they traded to get Manumaleuna.
If A.J. is as worried as I am about the cavernous backfield, he may pull the trigger on a deal and there’s not a lot of players that make more sense than Choice. The only issue is that Jerry Jones isn’t in love with Marion Barber and he doesn’t want to have to rely on Felix Jones to carry the running game if barber were to get hurt. His asking price for Choice is going to be a lot.
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by John Gennaro on Feb 9, 2010 3:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've thought about this too.
The Cowboys seem to have an abundance of talented backs, and we have a dearth. Supply, meet demand…
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by Zach (maestro876) on Feb 9, 2010 7:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oben.
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by Richard Wade on Feb 9, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha.
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by Richard Wade on Feb 9, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oden was my middle school math teacher
big and black so….
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by Mad_Villain on Feb 9, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he a little old to be playing football?
And how many one-eyed football players are there anyway? I’d much rather have Thor, or Freyr.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 12, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i think it would be a great pick up
and agree with john that he would be worth a second.
but you have to take into account the person spreading these rumors, Lee Hacksaw Hamilton. Who is a fraud and sometimes a complete flat out lier, he is the guy jim rome makes fun of when he says HAVE I GIVIN YOU ENOUGH TO TALK ABOUT! SHOW ME YOUR LIGHTNING BOLT.
If you read any of the things Acee says, you will know that this is pure speculation and there has been no talks.
Dont get me wrong tho, i would love choice. Maybe choice for cromartie and 3rd or 4th?
I remember i liked him a lot coming out of the draft.
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by cameronm on Feb 8, 2010 7:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah it might help to know Kevin Acee
Works for the union tribune, and is about the only person AJ Smith trusts.
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by cameronm on Feb 8, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THAT is where I heard the rumor.
Hacksaw said Cromartie for Choice straight up. Lol.
by Kornchex on Feb 9, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yea no thanks. hacksaw needs to leave his crack at home sometimes
by AirNorval on Feb 9, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be thrilled to get Choice. I think he would be a better immediate option than anyone besides Spiller in the draft. I just wonder how much it would cost us.
by cspfan on Feb 8, 2010 8:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Still upset we didnt draft him
Doubt the Chargers would give up more than a 3rd
by AirNorval on Feb 9, 2010 8:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It does seem like
Instead of using those picks to acquire Hester and Weddle we could have been using them to audition running back prospects
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by Wonko on Feb 9, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of Hester, certainly.
But Weddle was a great find. I’ll always think we got fleeced by New England considering how much we spent for that high second-rounder, but Weddle filled a need and ought to be a stalwart for years.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Feb 9, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
couldnt agree with you more strangebro
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by cameronm on Feb 10, 2010 12:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's nothing that says
We still couldn’t have got Weddle if we hadn’t made that trade. Or maybe found someone better. I’m not saying Weddle is a problem, just that there is a case to be made about not throwing around draft picks like they are monopoly money.
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by Wonko on Feb 10, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what we need...
With LT’s legendary career in SD coming to an end the chargers are going to have to find a run game…fast. The Chargers don’t have time to groom a starting RB, nor do they want to invest 1st round money on a RB, its not AJs style. The Bolts will most likely trade for a RB and draft a bigger back to help share the load, this is where choice comes into play. He’s frustrated in Dallas because he’s sitting behind two RBs who he is very capable of replacing, he wants a bigger contract and he wants to get a majority of carries… and he deserves it. The chargers won’t have to wait for him to produce, he can catch the ball out of the back field and he can add a much needed spark to the run game. he’s no LT but with a league thats moving away from the Work horse RB, Choice and a big back to split carries is the smart move. besides, the cowboys could use some depth at CB, ive heard Cromartie would be involved if this trade went through…a guy Wade Phillips hand picked when he was our Defensive Coordinator.
by ZionKing on Feb 10, 2010 9:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Gentlemen
a pro-bowl caliber corner back is worth so much more than a third string RB with upside. Almost to the point where we should stop and wonder if this sort of trade should even be considered, no matter what other draft choices are thrown in.
very good CBs are hard to find. good RBs are not.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 10, 2010 10:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pro Football Talk is reporting this as unlikely at best
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Feb 10, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's basically what I heard when this rumor came out last week
That the two teams had talked, but it wasn’t going to work out.
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by Wonko on Feb 10, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well.
if he does come to SD. he’’ll definitely have a starting job, instead of being 3rd RB, which may be incentive.
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by tonik on Feb 10, 2010 9:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
do bad players cant trade themselves
by AirNorval on Feb 11, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we don't trade....
we let players play out thier contracts, and pick up compensation picks when they get signed.
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by gatesoftds on Feb 12, 2010 9:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You missed the part of the conversation
Where we were talking about McCardell, Chambers and Oben didn’t you?
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by Wonko on Feb 12, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but
we traded our draft picks for those guys. We haven’t traded players for players in a while (never under AJ?)
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 12, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All of those were under A.J.
It is true that we did not make trades for specific players in 2008 (that I recall). The Chargers traded for Travis Johnson in 2009.
A.J. did trade Sammy Davis for Rashaun Woods. That is the last player for player trade that I recall. I believe that was 2006.
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by Wonko on Feb 12, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ahh Sammy Davis, now that's a busted first round pick!
GatesOfTDs had a good point in that historically we haven’t traded someone like Cro for other players or picks. Guys like Brees, Turner, Edwards, etc. were all allowed to play out their contract, rather than trying to trade them when we could have.
Not that AJ wouldn’t trade Cro, but it hasn’t happened historically under AJ. And really doesn’t happen than much anywhere in the NFL.
As you pointed out, AJ does have a history of trading future picks for players we need, so I think we could see him trade a pick for a vet RB. but we’ll see.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 12, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pats fan with a trade for you...
I hear you’re shipping Cromartie and hoping to get into position to draft an RB.
We have 3 second round picks. Cromartie is worth around a 3rd in my opinion, due to his hip injury in ’08 and his slightly above average performance this year (a long shot away from his ’07 year).
We’ll give you our second 2nd rounder (47th or 48th overall) for Cromartie and your 3rd round pick. That value Cromartie as a late 2nd round player/early 3rd, according to draft pick values (sketchy, but it works). Would you be down?
Counter trades are welcome (we have the 43rd/44th pick overall as well).
by Richard Hill on Feb 16, 2010 9:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A starting caliber corner is worth more than a third round pick.
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by Richard Wade on Feb 16, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if he's "injured" product?
His “value” would be equivalent to a 60th or so pick. That’s reasonable for a #2 corner.
by Richard Hill on Feb 16, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For New England, wouldn't he be a #1 CB?
I don’t follow Pats football but it seems like he’d be played ahead of Bodden and Springs.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Feb 17, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And
I’m pretty sure Bodden is a free agent. I assume Springs is as well.
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by Wonko on Feb 17, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm banking on us resigning Bodden...
…and Cromartie would be #2 to Bodden.
Springs is locked up for a couple years.
by Richard Hill on Feb 17, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt the managemnt would trade Cro for that little.
Barner + Seastrunk + Williams + Alston + Huff + Lowe...
by CaDuck on Feb 18, 2010 7:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Be careful what you wish for
I said it before, be careful what you wish for. We all seen how Cromartie can’t tackle and a few years ago, people couldn’t stand how Jammer covered receivers. Woodson was a bust in Oakland……I think you guys should take a long long look at other people’s corners, Watch a whole game of the Pats corners or Seattle’s; you see how painful many other teams have it.
Corners are one of the toughest positions to develop, so many many things to react to and so little time. Yes I don’t like his tackling and his coverage is just above average, but when he is on he changes the game….
Would I trade him for a decent running back or someone like Tashad Choice possibly I might. But I don’t think you could get a game changer in trade . You might get a decent pick for though, but then you are rolling the dice on an unknown
by bo_shilo on Feb 22, 2010 8:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Woodson was a bust in Oakland?
You sure about that? He was pretty darn good when he was healthy. The Raiders let him go because he couldn’t stay healthy.
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by Wonko on Feb 23, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Apparently he was to them
Apparently he was to them, because they apparently Oakland felt he couldn’t get the job done. Yes he was defensive rookie and 3 time all-pro then the next he was chopped liver. Given some time to get healthy, he has been a decent player again. don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t released him if I was GM in Oakland. My point was that GM and fans only care for what you done for me lately creates its own line of problems. Cornerbacks and QB’s aren’t that plentiful, it takes time and patience to get them to develop. I am not a huge Cromartie fan; but the idea of trading him for a middle of the road RB who probably will last 3 years at the most doesn’t sit well for me.
by bo_shilo on Feb 24, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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