LT: "I Didn't Feel Connected to the Team"
If you didn't have the time to listen to the link posted by Axion yesterday of LaDainian Tomlinson's interview with Scott & BR, I've broken down most of the key points after the jump. I even added in my two cents to most of his comments, because I'm a self-absorbed ego-maniac.
I know it's silly when I tell stories from my one day in the Chargers locker room and act as if they're the certifiable truth, but I'm going to do it again. The two times I was in that locker room, I accounted for every Chargers player except for two. Eric Weddle (who was injured and could usually be found walking around giving interviews to everyone) and LT. I assumed LT was in the trainer's room both times, but now I'm starting to wonder. If he disliked this locker room, and this group of guys so much, is it possible that he was spending time elsewhere (possibly the trainer's room) just to get away from them?
I don't think it's that far-fetched. It's not like the locker-room is all business. Hell, the entire offensive line was sitting around telling jokes every time I saw them. A lot of guys were getting dressed and then getting to their cars to go grab lunch (or dinner, or whatever), but while they were doing that they were dancing to music and talking to reporters or teammates. That seems like a situation that may have made Tomlinson a bit uncomfortable.
LT is a bit of a freak in the NFL. I read his mother's book about him and I think I sortof understand his personality from that. He's everything you'd expect him to be, or at least he is when his mother writes about him. He's not incredibly quite or shy, but he'd never be called loud. He's not overly emotional, but his emotions are strong. He is far too honest to be a bad person, because he'd never be able to lie to his mother, his wife or even the Charger fans.
LT is what we'd all like our athletes to be: humble, honest and normal. However, in a world where his co-workers make millions of dollars a year because of how fast they can run or how far they can throw, those qualities have become rarer and rarer. The Reggie Whites of the NFL have turned into Ray Lewis (humble? honest? normal?), and LT is finding it harder being a different kind of guy when he's not the star of the team.
Anyways, credit all around here. Credit Scott & BR for asking the right questions and credit LT for answering them all honestly.
- LT's wife is doing well with her pregnancy. She's due in July, but they don't yet know the sex of the baby.
- LaDainian can imagine what it would be like to play somewhere else next season and thinks he could have success wherever he plays.
- If the Chargers want LT back, he wants to come back for 2010. However, he will not renegotiate his contract with San Diego.
- S&BR: "Were you happy this year?" LT: No. (Somebody's been lying to Kevin Acee....)
- LT does not need to be a feature back. He's always enjoyed having another talented RB on the team to share carries with.
- Tomlinson seems to insinuating that the Chargers weak rushing attack in 2009 had more to do with Norv Turner than himself. The telling statement for me is "If you know how to run the ball, you know how to run it" when discussing whether or not LT needs a talented FB in front of him to be successful.
- LT didn't even know about Vincent Jackson being pulled over before the Jets game until days afterwards, even though there was plenty written about the team joking about it after the game. That says something about LT's involvement in the locker room.
- "There was a big part of this year, for whatever reason, where I didn't feel connected to the team." Things are starting to get juicy now. If I could read into LT's half-sentences (it's obvious he doesn't want to cause problems, so he's trying to choose his next words carefully), it seems to me that LT thinks his ability to be a team leader was hampered by his diminished role in the offense.
- "These guys that come into the league, it's not about the same values anymore. Faith, family, football.....to them it's not about that anymore." I agree and disagree. The nucleus of this team is not that old, and guys like Antonio Gates, Philip Rivers and Quentin Jammer are men of those values. I think LT is talking specifically about guys like Vincent Jackson, Shawne Merriman, Shaun Phillips, Antonio Cromartie and any other Chargers players that are single and usually end up at the club after a game. I'm not going to say LT is wrong is what he's saying, because I agree, but I don't think this is a problem with the Chargers specifically.
- "If that's going to be allowed......I can't deal with that type of stuff anymore." This interview, in it's entirety, was a criticism of some of the Chargers younger players (specifically the ones that get in trouble with the law) and also of Norv Turner. Not just of Norv's play-calling either. Whether or not it's true, and I think both sides differ in their thoughts on this, LT makes it sound like he'd be happy to have the opportunity to be a free agent so that he can end up on a more disciplined team (like the Patriots or Colts) that is focused on football 100% of the time.
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So ummm
when he said this was the best Chargers Team he played on it really wasnt? I am having mixed emotions on what he’s being saying lately and from the things he’s said during the season in interviews. Love the guy he has been the Heart of the Chargers n SD no doubt but ugh IDK. Has there been any rrsponses from other players from what he’s been saying lately?
"It dont matter if you win or lose your still a loser... said the Chargers Fan"
by ChargersWitch on Feb 3, 2010 11:38 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Upsetting and disappointing
A couple of kicks go through the uprights and everyone’s still a family.
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I believe it was Tom Cruise who once said
“Nothing ever ends well, if it didn’t end badly, it would never end”… Or maybe that was Dalton from roadhouse…
either way, I think one of those great Philosophers was talking about the end of LT’s career in SD.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 3, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I really don't understand where LT is coming from
Was he really unhappy winning all those games because they couldn’t run the ball? That’s a rather selfish take from a guy that has seemed to be a rather humble guy.
It’s really hard for me to buy into LT and LoNeal’s takes that Norv Turner was personally handicapping the team’s running ability. When you take a step back and realize what you are saying when you claim that, doesn’t it sound really stupid? Just having a pass first offense shouldn’t handicap the running game. Turner had good run games in Dallas and Washington. Mike Martz had Marshall Faulk going ballistic on the league in his greatest show on turf. The Andy Reid Eagles are infamous for their overcommitment to the pass, but every year their running game is usually one of the best efficiency-wise. It just seems simpler that player execution is the fault of the run game woes and not playcalling. LoNeal also seemed to be saying that they were ineffective because they didn’t run enough. I’m sorry, but if you do something poorly, it doesn’t make sense that doing it more would make it more effective. My conclusion: LoNeal and LT would make horrible football analysts.
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by Wonko on Feb 3, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions 10 recs
I’m sorry, but if you do something poorly, it doesn’t make sense that doing it more would make it more effective.
agree w/ this.
chargers ran the ball enough times, but LT just didn’t execute. that or poor run blocking. but i believe it’s the former.
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Exactly. Right on point.
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by John Gennaro on Feb 3, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Excellent.
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by Richard Wade on Feb 3, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
For future reference
It’s impolite to inquire as to the specific meaning of any acronym with the letter F.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 3, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Dave, if we’re ever having conversation, and you drop either an “epic fail” or a “for the win,” that conversation will cease.
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Does that make "for the win" an epic fail?
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 4, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
noted.
and i usually dont do that, because im not 13. my list of excuses are threefold.
- i was zany from too much coffee
- i hadnt eaten lunch
- i was in a starbucks in burbank, and there were weird emo kids making out, and it was really weird
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forgiven
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Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
But LT doesn't pretend to be an analyst.
While I also found the interview illogical and at times contradictory to things he’s said this year, you have to give him credit for being honest, but more importantly, for emphasizing a philosophy like Faith-Family-Football when you know a lot of his peers don’t.
Obviously it’s hard to go from all-world stud to constantly-bashed afterthought….I think a lot of people are asking too much from LT to treat his situation with the Chargers as a simple matter of business and X’s and O’s.
so I guess the subject of my post should have been:
“How do you not understand where LT is coming from?”
think about it
actually nobody can think like LT obviously can you go through 9 seasons without a superbowl? oh wait
Reppin SD (Z-G)
If he thinks he wasn't connected to the team this year
he should wait until next season.
by JeromeB on Feb 3, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
I'm so done with LT.
I want this to be over.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Feb 3, 2010 12:55 PM PST reply actions
I really wish I could disagree.
But I can’t. (sigh)
Thanks for the memories, dude: you were great and we feel honored to have cheered you on. Don’t sour it.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 3, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
its like a relationship thats ending
you always want to look back on the good times, and how great it was, while your brain refuses to accept that it will NEVER BE THAT WAY AGAIN…
ok i’m going to go cry now…
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He sounds hypocritical
Who was the one who was going down on the first hit and on shoe string tackles? He says that he was fine with a reduced roll in the offense but as soon as they lose a game all of a sudden he’s not happy with his roll and he wasn’t used enough? If your not happy with the attitude or lack of leadership in the locker room and the team, then step up and do something about it instead of whining about it to the media.
I just want to get paid to draw naked girls, is that so much to ask?
A lot of the team was going with the good soldier mentality
I think one of the good parts of the team this year was that there weren’t a lot of malcontents voicing their concerns over whatever they were unhappy about. I’m fine with him waiting until after the season to voice his concerns in the media. It seems better than the alternatives of doing the same media stuff during season or challenging the coaching staff in the locker room. However, to agree with me you’d have to think of the locker room as more a dictatorship than a democracy, so I could see how opinions would differ there.
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I agree
I think to a large extent, LT is just being honest. He was happy with winning, but he wasn’t happy with his role. He wants to carry the ball more and he thinks he is capable of playing a much bigger role. He doesn’t think his lack of production is because he is no longer a productive back, he thinks its because the coaches don’t focus on the running game enough (and not just by giving him more carries, in other interviews he has said this lack of emphasis on the running goes back to off-season activies and training camp). Part of the reason we love LT is because he is honest. Now, I don’t think he is right, but as you said, at least he held it in until the off-season.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 3, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I want to expand upon one thing you said
And I’m not arguing with you, but rather with LT’s logic. I have issues with the idea that it goes back to off-season activities and training camp. I still don’t see how that makes sense. I go back to Turner having successful running games in the past. Were those just lucky? I’m inclined to think they weren’t all luck. I would think that his run game preparation is mostly the same as it was then and yet the results were worse the last two years. I guess some could argue that his skills there could have degraded and I can’t refute that, but I find it unlikely as well. His staffs were different, but the run game coordinator for the Chargers is the LT-approved Clarence Shelmon who was the running backs coach back in LT’s successful days so I’m confident in believing that’s the case. Can anyone explain to me the logic of how the team wouldn’t prepare to run the ball properly in the offseason? Because I don’t understand it.
It just seems to come back to the simplest explanations: Injuries, offensive line execution and running back execution. Occam’s razor LT, Occam’s razor.
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by Wonko on Feb 3, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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but the run game coordinator for the Chargers is the LT-approved Clarence Shelmon who was the running backs coach back in LT’s successful days so I’m confident in believing that’s not the case.
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I agree with this completely...
It just seems to come back to the simplest explanations: Injuries, offensive line execution and running back execution. Occam’s razor LT, Occam’s razor.
The one thing I could say in defense of LT’s performance is the offensive line performance, and part of that “could” be attributed to Norv, but I honestly don’t know. I just got the feeling all season that the line was focused on pass blocking much more than good run blocking. It is two different things, and a lot of good pass blockers can’t or don’t adjust to run block as well as they pass block. I believe the same is true in Indy, but they were able to overcome it this year.
18th in ALY, 6th in Stuffed %, 31st in 2nd Level Yards, 32nd in Open Field Yards.
That suggests that the problem was more with the backs than the line.
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Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
Does that suggest they hardly reached the 2nd level or open field? Or is that saying the RBs performed that badly once they got to the 2nd level or open field?
If its the first, that still seems to say they never were able to get to the 2nd level… Or am I misinterpreting?
The latter.
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Just finished watching
The Chargers great comeback win v. the Bengals a couple of years ago on Hulu (courtesy of the link here on BFTB), and watching LT bounce around, slash and dash, and just plain be faster than anyone trying to catch him was amazing. That game he score 4 TDs! And I think he had something like 15 TD’s in a 4 (or 5?) game stretch, which is obviously a record. Anyway, to see him then (in his prime), and see how he is now, I find it extremely difficult for Norv to WANT to run the ball now with as much as LT has regressed coupled with the O-Line being decimated by injury.
I believe LT still has a little left in him, but he is far from a featured back (which I think he realizes). All he has to do is watch some film from two years ago and realize it’s him, and not everyone else (ie coaching, blocking).
I love LT and he is one of my top 5 ATHLETES of all time, but the time has come. I hate to see him go, but it looks like that is the only real way to go now.
Do or do not. There is no try.
I'll go with Darren Smith's take
On XX 1090, Darren Smith was comparing LT’s comments yesterday with his comments a couple days after the Jets game. After the Jets game, LT was nothing but complimentary of his teammates and Norv.
Darren Smith attributed LT’s contradicting statements to LT mentally preparing himself to getting cut from the team. Smith compared it to breaking up with someone you were in a relationship with. It’s easier to get over the break up, if you convince yourself that you’re better off without them.
This makes sense to me. It’s been a couple weeks and that’s some time for perspective. I’m sure it’s got to be an emotional thing for LT to come to terms with the fact that he’s not going to be a Charger anymore and, like most people, it’s easier to accept be rejected by someone, if you focus on the things you didn’t like about them.
LT is an emotional guy. He’s not the most animated or articulate person, but he does seem to wear his emotions on his sleeve. This seems consistent with who he has been during his time with the Chargers.
I think LT is in for a rude awakening, when he hits the free agent market though.
by JiltedEmu on Feb 3, 2010 1:53 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
As a Bronco fan
I always hated LT. And can you blame me?
But I think he’ll get picked up relatively quickly. The values he has and the knowledge he has are great for a locker room.
I’ll agree he probably just has separation anxiety, but don’t think for a second he won’t get picked up. Probably by the Pats.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
He needs to be a leader
And maybe he’d really fit into Colts or Pats system. But it’ll be hard to see LT playing for another team. He made sort of a legend when he was playing with the Chargers. And with an unsustainable situation for his character, seeing all those valuable players for the team getting into trouble with the cops, and doesn’t having any power of leadership nor seeing any major action by the Chargers’ big guys, he’d probably be better with himself as a player for the Colts or the Pats. Maybe not with the Colts, cause we’re overloaded with many young RBs. And the Pats needs a better running game, and they wouldn’t mind to have an relatively old RB wearing their jersey
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
Oh yah and about Cromartie
They should turn him into a wide receiver since hes more comfortable running with the football than tackling the man with the football.Hes a bit dangerous with the football
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You're just trying to pick a fight with Wonko. :)
I suspect you need a better pretext than that. It’s like the plotline of a porn film.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 3, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
are you house
this is father
And I've been into the plants and simple treasures
by CurbEnthusiasm on Feb 3, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
An incomprehensible reply to an incomprehensible comment
If Cromartie can’t catch tacklers, how is he gonna catch footballs? Think about that.
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Catch tacklers?
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
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can’t catch the people he’s trying to tackle.
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You could totally make a koan out of that
in a moment of Zen.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 4, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
It’s like the plotline of a porn film.
my porn don’t have plot lines.
Gary Potter: Harness in the good energy, block out the bad. Harness. Energy. Block. Bad. It's like a carousel. You put the quarter in, you get on the horse, it goes up and down, and around. Circular, circle. Feel it. Go with the flow.
Happy Gilmore: Psycho.
L.T’s a baby, plain and simple. He’s a great guy but you want a bunch of savages on your team, people to go to war with and share a beer with after the game. This isn’t accounting, you’re on a battle field- the Chargers are going to be much tougher without him. Thanks for the memories and giving us something to cheer for during the down years now it’s time to go win a championship.
Savings equal to his roster bonus.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 4, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
yup
no chance for compensatory pick since we will have to waive him.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 4, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
I am beginning to get bummed on LT
After all the memories we have had with this human, all the great accomplishments we have watched him achieve with us, it is just mind boggling that a guy as humble as LT is going out like this? Not saying going out without a championship, but going out sounding like such a negative guy? I was under the distinct impression all season that LT was happy and that this was the best team he has ever played for and that he has never felt a sandiego team this connected. But now that we have suffered yet another brutal playoff loss i feel like he has just gone out and started blaming other people rather than looking at the big picture. We all know how good LT is, but you have to agree that homeboy has lost his step. Granted we had an average oline and average run block, but isnt that what makes a great rb is being able to make moves when it seems virtually impossible? I really hate to speculate, but i am just a little bummed that this is the way are beloved LT is going out..
Can someone do a "What he's really trying to say?" comment
"It dont matter if you win or lose your still a loser... said the Chargers Fan"
Give him to the Eagles
He’ll put up 2000+ rushing yards for us and we’ll take him to the Super Bowl next year!
There are so many things wrong with that.
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1. LeSean McCoy
2. Andy Reid
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by John Gennaro on Feb 5, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Basically
I mean, can you even fathom all the things that would have to fall into place for LT to have a 2000 yard season for the Eagles?
You’d need Andy Reid to change his entire philosophy, not only to increase his attempts at running, but increase them to the point where LT is getting an excessive amount of carries. And, as you mention, not involve LeSean McCoy at all. On top of that, LT would have to take the pounding that comes with all those carries. I mean, let’s be generous and say that LT is somehow capable of getting 4.0 YPC. That’s 500 carries! Insanity! How could he possibly stay healthy through that? And, on top of that, the Eagles would somehow have to turn this strategy into winning football so that Myron SB prediction comes true.
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I assume that he is being sarcastic.
Yes. Sarcasm.
LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Josh Huff + Keanon Lowe + Remene Alston +...
Your name is Myron, you're an Eagles fan, presumably you've been to at least one Eagles game in your life
and they didn’t kill you for being named Myron?
Yup, I'm the nut who believes Mark Loretta is a possible future Hall of Famer.
by StrangeBroP25 on Feb 4, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Man, a guy's name is off limits.
This comes from a guy with an action-hero name, but I hate seeing people bag on people over stuff they can’t control.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 5, 2010 5:16 AM PST up reply actions
Apologies.
Besides which John and Wonko pretty much said it all anyways.
Yup, I'm the nut who believes Mark Loretta is a possible future Hall of Famer.
by StrangeBroP25 on Feb 5, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
We all know how much LT brought to this team for so long.
But the fact that we finally get to move forward is welcome in my eyes.
I just hope that this departure does not become drawn out.
LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Josh Huff + Keanon Lowe + Remene Alston +...
Came here for a fans perspective...
Being a lifelong Bears fan but having a real admiration for LT and actually the Chargers in general. (It seemed growing up either the Chargers or the Broncos were always on my teevee for the late game), I was actually surprised to read LT’s comments. I guess all good things come to an end and your reaction to his comments is spot on IMHO. You stay classy San Diego..
by Ortons Neckbeard on Feb 4, 2010 6:48 PM PST reply actions
Awesome pic/avatar-thingy.
A little culturally insensitive maybe.* But awesome.
*Not really; I suppose this is one activity where such a statement is contextually more acceptable, as a physical disability would bear directly on job performance.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 4, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks Neo...
and your assessment regarding the pic/avatar-doo-hickey is absolutely correct. Too bad it can’t be worked into a Broncos logo. Out.
by Ortons Neckbeard on Feb 4, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions

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