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Stat of the Day: DL Stop Rate vs. Run
Jacques Cesaire clocks in at #5 on the Worst Run Stop Rate for Defensive Linemen.
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FO Article on Cesaire
I think I’m going to go ahead and throw the baby out with the bath water on that Cesaire article. They measure the rate of successful stops per tackle made. Seems like a more interesting stat might be successful stop per running play involved in (or even running play to their side). But I don’t think that level of detail comes through the play by play. Combine that with the fact that run stopping on the DL is really a team effort and I think that ranking starts to feel pretty useless (or at least just a single data point when you need 4 or 5 to make an accurate appraisal)
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 1, 2010 9:10 AM PST reply actions
They weren't trying to invent a new stat
That’s just one they collect from play-by-play data and were merely presenting its results. They also collect stats on the running play to a certain side, but there is less accountability to an individual on those plays.
It’s not like they said he’s in the bottom 5 as a defensive lineman, just that he’s “#5 on the Worst Run Stop Rate for Defensive Linemen.”
Personally, I don’t think the stat is completely useless. If you rank in the bottom 5 or 10 it probably shows that there is probably something wrong with your style of play, you talent level, the defensive scheme or a combination of those 3. Chances are that if you are tackling players at a point on the field that would not be considered a stop and you’re an interior defender like Cesaire, then you’re probably getting pushed back on a lot of plays or you’re good at chasing down a play that got past the line. Since, Cesaire is not exactly known for his downfield tackles, there’s a chance that the former may be true. I guess what I’m saying is that is completely useless as a definitive stat, but since when did stats become useless because they are only a piece of the puzzle?
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
I agree
My initial impression of the stat was that is was just a slice of the picture (which is fine), but I felt it wasn’t the most appropriate slice for what they were trying to convey (i.e. it doesn’t take into account missed tackes that the player was responsible for or tackles made that the player outside of his “zone of responsibility”).
The stat isn’t completely useless, but probably 87.6% useless.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 1, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Can I convince you
To bump it down to 87.1% useless? That’s all I’m asking.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
sure
I’ll go all the way down tp 86.97% :-)
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 1, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Whoa, whoa, whoa
Don’t get too carried away. You don’t want to make a fool of yourself.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Also a link to a Kaeding article
A link to an article on Kaeding , if was posted elsewhere I didn’t see so apologies
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stefan_fatsis/01/29/kaeding/index.html
Is an apology really that important?
It’s not like he did something stupid. He tried to kick an oblong ball through the uprights, with giant men running at him and it didn’t work. Sure people apologize all the time for screwing up even though they were trying hard, but it always seems unnecessary to me. If you know a guy was giving it his all then what does he need to apologize for. He didn’t miss it on purpose. He didn’t go out there hung over or strung out on drugs. It’s not like he skipped practices. And I don’t think he’s content with himself for missing. And he’s not going around saying, “Damn, I’m a great kicker, but I’m not perfect, I can miss a few from time to time, right? Now leave me alone jerkoffs or kick the damn ball yourself.” There really shouldn’t be any apologies sought out on this one. Now, if he wants to apologize for disappointing the fans, that’s fine, but I just think it goes without saying, IMHO.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
No idea what you're referring to.
I would like to point out how happy I am to see Nate taking this issue head-on. He’s being brutally honest, and brave by answering any questions anybody has in regards to the game. He admits that the first miss screwed him up and he didn’t rebound well, but the fact that he’s admitting that instead of making up lies or hiding from the truth will make it easier for him to move past it.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
Yeah, I'm crazy
I misinterpreted something.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Hey, John
Re: Your tweet on Miami vs. San Diego Super Bowls. Part of that has to do with other infrastructure like convention center room, hotel availability, etc. Some of it has to do with the luxury boxes at the stadium. It’s all about hosting a good week long party rather than where the game is played.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
So if the Chargers were to, hypothetically, blow up Qualcomm and build a new stadium in it’s place…..they wouldn’t get Super Bowls? They got them before, and if anything the downtown expansion has made it an even better destination for the week leading up to the game. Maybe that’s just my opinion though.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
They would get it
The luxury boxes and shininess would help whitewash any other issues for a while. But, the current combination of what San Diego has to offer is just not up to par with what the NFL wants for a Super Bowl (notice I say wants and not needs). Whereas Miami’s (and New Orleans) combination at least meets the minimum of what they want. I actually suspect that Miami would be on thinner ice with the NFL if it weren’t for the tradition involved with the site although there may be some hidden stuff going on there that we would never know about (wink, wink, say no more).
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
This is something I have wondered about
Why didn’t anyone talk about Cesaire during the season? He was lousy all year, stats and plays. He is a rotational player, not a starter. He was effective 2 seasons ago when he could come in fresh and play in short bursts. The Chargers were without 2 starters this year. J Williams and a RDE. Cesaire should be kept as a backup but not a starter. I wish the Chargers would cash out for Julius Peppers this offseason, but probably won’t. They need to address this in the draft, if FA aren’t the answer. That is a big part of the poor run defense last year.
Peppers is not a 3-4 DE. He’s far too small. If he ends up on a 3-4 defense, he’ll be a pass-rushing OLB.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
then maybe we should switch to a 4-3
And while we’re at it, fire Norv and cut Kaeding
Yup, I'm the nut who believes Mark Loretta is a possible future Hall of Famer.
by StrangeBroP25 on Feb 1, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
what?!?!
you totally forgot to bring back Lorenzo Neal
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 1, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody talked about Cesaire for two reasons.
1) We all knew he was a stopgap and the team would have to find one or more long-term guys. Between a trade, a draft pick and a couple of lucky pickups off the scrap-heap, we kinda have.
2) Cesaire is a UFA this season. Given our free agency situation, that would have made him a goner even if he were still a viable player for this team.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Feb 1, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
you guys notice
how Dielman is a lot more fit in that picture compared to the beginning of the season?
Life is like riding a bicycle, to keep your balance, you must keep moving.-Einstein
I don’t remember what he looked like at the beginning of the season, but he played better as the season went on.
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
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he had an Oprah-esque weight swing this season.
And while he did get better as the season wore on, I don’t think he ended up nearly as good as he should have been.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 3, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
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