Are the Chargers Moving to Los Angeles?
Oh boy. There was a storm brewing while we all slept, cozy in our beds, over a potential move to Los Angeles for the Chargers.
Don't look at me as a source of information, I intend on keeping this an opinion piece based in layman's terms. Here are the most recent developments:
- Magic Johnson, the Hall of Fame NBA player, has sold his ownership stake of the Los Angeles Lakers and announced a partnership with Phil Anschutz (who owns/runs AEG) to help bring the NFL to Los Angeles (and most specifically, downtown L.A.). Anschutz already has ownership stakes in the Lakers, L.A. Kings, the Staples Center and the Home Depot Center. Basically, if you're looking to move to L.A. and gain an owner who could help you get a new stadium....Anschutz is your guy.
- It would appear San Diego has gone quiet on the Chargers options here. There was much conversation about the city making room in the budget to help finance a downtown stadium, and that the team was also looking into the cost of renovating Qualcomm Stadium, and then.....nothing. I imagine there's a chance this conversation comes back around, but there must be some reason it went so quiet. Last we heard, Fabiani was saying that even with the help of the city that the Chargers would need a loan from the NFL (who was saying they couldn't afford another loan) to put a stadium in San Diego.
- Overnight, a radio station in Toronto reported that 35% of the Chargers was sold to Anschutz and AEG. Mark Fabiani, the Chargers special counsel for new stadium discussions, has said in the past that if AEG were to buy Alex Spanos' share of the team (36%) that San Diegans should be worried about the team moving to L.A. Fabiani is not one to make those statements likely, so let me translate: "If AEG owns 35% of the Chargers, they are or soon will be the Los Angeles Chargers".
- Fabiani is the only one who has responded to the report thusfar, saying in a statement "There is no truth to the rumor out of Toronto that the Chargers have agreed to sell a portion of the team to Mr. Anschutz." Whew, that was a close one. Just kidding, I am not that naive. Basically, what Fabiani just said is "We haven't had a Press Conference yet." He neither confirmed nor denied anything.
So, what should Charger fans take from all of this? Well, understand two things. One, where there is smoke there is fire. If somebody got this report in Toronto, there's a good chance that discussions are nearing the point of a final sale. What was probably passed along is "Things are going smoothly, the sale will be final soon", and someone ran with it. Two, the sale is not final. San Diego still has time, and a chance, to give the Chargers something to make them walk away from that negotiating table. What that is, I have no idea, but a chance is a chance and I'm sure San Diego's best are brainstorming this issue right now.
I don't want to go off on too much of a tangent about this, but there is no reason for anger here. The team really has been patient in trying to work things out with the city, but unfortunately all of this has come to a head in a time of bad economy. The Chargers and their owners seem to be doing what any good business owner would do by taking the best offer and the best opportunity to grow themselves from just another football team into one of the league's biggest brands. It's just business.
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there have been positive recent developments on the SD front
1. The downtown site has not been ruled out. Talks in a positive direction have continued between the city and the chargers.
2. the downtown redevelopment fund cap has been lifted by a “under cover of darkness” state governement deal back in early November. This was a critical step and a deal breaker if it didn’t happen.
3. Fabiani has said that the next step is a ballot measure, probably in 2012 to get the public behind the financing of the stadium. (strangely, a lockout could be just the delay SD needs to get its stadium act together, since the lack of a CBA might hinder a franchise’s valuation and sale)
While those developments are all positive, they are not really that compelling.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Dec 1, 2010 9:31 AM PST reply actions
2. the downtown redevelopment fund cap has been lifted by a "under cover of darkness" state governement deal back in early November. This was a critical step and a deal breaker if it didn’t happen.
justdave might know something about this…..
I agree with all of your points, but will continue to point out that a downtown SD stadium is not nearly as sexy as a downtown LA stadium. Hell, Tim Sullivan said it himself…“Asked … to estimate the relative value of NFL teams in Los Angeles and San Diego — both of them operating with the benefit of a new stadium — one experienced sports executive pegged the difference at about $400 million.”
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you better get as much SD memorabilia as possible...
cuz i think it might be an oakland Raider type move,a decade or so in LA and then back to SD…I really don’t see a NFL franchise EVER coming to SD if the Chargers leave.
I get the feeling we will be the laughing stock of the sports world if we can’t keep our team local. It pains me to say,but if the city doesn’t just plain old say" we will build you a new stadium no worries" the Chargers are leaving. I really don’t see that happening.
LA misconception
Raiders left because Al Davis was crazy, and demanded a stadium from a city that couldn’t afford to give him one. Rams left because St. Louis made them an absolutely insane offer (new stadium, TONS of cash, ridiculous TV deal, etc).
The Chargers would be owned by people who had L.A. ties, and would already have a new stadium and money….so I wouldn’t see them leaving for a good 25 years.
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I agree
If they left I really don’t see the same franchise moving back. I would think that the city might want to entice the NFL in a decade or so and I really would hate to have some franchise bottom dweller team named the San Diego anything. It’s a lose lose for SD IMO.
In addition, Georgia Frontiere was also from Missouri.
She will always be known as the evil stepmother who broke Ram fans hearts. Take note Spanos family.
If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, then you will be fired with enthusiasm. Vince Lombardi
by Bolt Brother on Dec 1, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
And Cleveland left because Art Modell is a Sonofabitch.
ROHC THE SOHC.
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 2, 2010 7:06 AM PST up reply actions
Or would it be more like SD as the L.A. in that situation
Keep in mind, the Chargers were originally the Los Angeles Chargers and later moved to SD. Granted, you’ve been in SD for a long long time (it’d be like my Chiefs moving back to Dallas), but it’d nonetheless be a return to their original location.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.
Made me laugh
there have been positive recent developments on the SD front
Have they stopped paying retirees more money NOT TO WORK for the city, than the people who do work for the city?
San Diego will be lucky to find the financing to expand the convention center (a project that actually pays for itself). No way do they ever find the money to build a second stadium downtown. San Diego will remain a financial basket case for a very long time to come.
by Trendsearcher on Dec 1, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
In San Diego's defense
Regarding the stadium issue they are a lot like every other California city. The 49ers and Raiders don’t exactly have brand spanking new facilities. In baseball, the A’s and Dodgers have two of the oldest and the Giants privately financed their stadium.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
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The thing about ownership percentages.
The four Spanos kids each have a 15% share leaving the Spanos clan (post sale) controlling 60% of the team. However if Anshutz ends up owning 36%, that makes him the single owner with the highest percentage share, and could potentially give him control of the team (NFL rules say the single highest above 30% gets control). There’s two ways that the sale could go through and the Spanos clan could maintain control of the team. First, they could consolidate ownership of the four 15% shares with one Spanos member. Second, there was a one time exception for the Steelers in a similar situation where two brothers each owning 15% were considered one entity with a 30% controlling share. Would they sell the 36% share without one of these two measures lined up? If this is purely estate planning, why wouldn’t spanos simply sell a 29% share or something similar? It’s bad juju. But San Diego has only itself (and maybe a hojillion city pensions) to blame.
I just put up a fanshot about this, but well done.
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by John Gennaro on Dec 1, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Sam Farmer, LA Times
Seems like he has a pretty good bead on the topic. He claims Anschutz is only interested if he can get a stadium built in downtown LA and he can get a controlling interest. There is no way he can be sure of the stadium for months yet, so there is no way he is buying the Chargers yet.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Dec 1, 2010 10:22 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
This
It’s almost a race to see who can get a stamp-of-approval first. Downtown L.A. Stadium or downtown S.D. Stadium.
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by John Gennaro on Dec 1, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Will the city of San Diego get a shot to vote for a stadium?
I always taught that this would come to a vote, and the Spanos would pack their bags if the Stadium got voted down, and to a point I would not blame them. But leaving in a whimper, just by selling is sad, and a fact of life in the modern economy.
The realist and business man in me says, its just a matter of time, this franchise is just worth more in L.A., owning 65% of the L.A. team is worth more than 100 in San Diego.
We all have to make a choice, can we stay fans, as purely TV watchers, or are we done as soon as the deal is done?
We all have to make a choice, can we stay fans, as purely TV watchers, or are we done as soon as the deal is done?
This will be discussed on the podcast tonight.
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by John Gennaro on Dec 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Also, what happens when we stay charger fans and then a new team comes to SD in ten to fifteen (or twenty) years? What choice do we make then? I’m not a fan of the whole “well, you see, I like two teams…” mentality. One is exhilarating/exhausting enough.
#feelinacertaintypeofway
by sd_Baby-B on Dec 1, 2010 11:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
A valid problem
Somewhat related; One problem teams in the beautiful southwest (Phx, SD, LA) have in building a solid fan base and selling out games is that a lot of the people that live in these towns are transplants from the midwest, or east coast, that have moved out west for the weather and they remain fans of their “original” home teams.
You will probably never get the hardcore support of a football team in San Diego, Phoenix or LA that you have in Green Bay, Chicago etc.
Dont get all upset sad about the move they still are our same Chargers
I’ve always driven down there to the games its not that big of a deal. Now i just won’t have to drive much and you guys will drive up.
Also, less blackouts!
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by John Gennaro on Dec 1, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Not sure that’s true, much like the blackout in SD applies to LA, it would go back the other way because the southern tip of OC is within so many miles of blah blah blah.
I was talking about their fans actually selling the games out. 3x the population of S.D. and all….
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by John Gennaro on Dec 1, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Less blackouts because a new stadium in downtown LA will sell out
A new stadium for the LA Chargers will absolutely sell out. LA likes winning teams. The Chargers will continue to win, and the Norv Turner offense is exciting to watch. Southern California fair-weather fandom is just part of the culture, but it’s much the same here in SD. I know, I grew up in LA with the Raiders, Rams, Kings and Lakers and saw the highs and lows, and now I’ve been in San Diego well over a decade and see the same thing with the Padres and Chargers.
LA also likes shiny new things, like new stadiums. The Staples Center has been a huge success. With the larger LA area population, the Chargers will be a huge success…IF they get a new downtown stadium. If I had the money, I’d invest.
We can still be Chargers fans!
by RiversMVP on Dec 1, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Not A Chargers Fan
but I live in L.A. and I would be there every time the played the Chiefs plus probably a few other games a year.
Well, this sucks.
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by Jonathan Holmes on Dec 1, 2010 10:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Wild Rumors & Legal Extortion
This is just the typical NFL blackmailing of a community for public funding. We’ve seen this exact pattern repeated so many times that its nauseating. Unfortunately, it works more often than not. I have no doubt that San Diego will cave in and fund whatever stadium/strip mall project the team wants. Frankly, I hope San Diego puts pen to ink on this legal extortion sooner than later. I don’t think Angelinos should have to endure the prospect of having a franchise like the Chargers moving back to L.A.. If the NFL has finally come to its senses and admitted it lost in its attempt to blackmail L.A., then it should take the next logical step and simply allow a two team expansion : the first for L.A. and the second team for someplace in Canada…which seems to want an NFL franchise and all the attendant drama. If L.A. is going to have to watch another NFL team under-perform while wearing the city’s name, it would be better that it be a local product and not some other city’s failed franchise.
by MoB.DeadMeat on Dec 1, 2010 10:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
YOU'RE A FAILED FRANCHISE!
Neiner – neiner.
#feelinacertaintypeofway
by sd_Baby-B on Dec 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
This is what large influential corporations do to local governments in the USA
The NFL is just another big money player that can push the government around, same ’ol same ’ol…
(not gonna get any deeper into the politics of it)
I disagree. There is plenty of reason for anger here so long as it's directed where it belongs: San Diego.
there is no reason for anger here.
Fun Fact: I don’t live in the city of San Diego and I think they should spend their money to build the Chargers a stadium, so that I don’t have to drive as far when I attend my one game per year.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
You could blame them for foolishly spending money in the past, but I really do see them as trying to do everything in their power to keep the team here. They’re not pulling some sort of power-play the way Minnesota is.
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by John Gennaro on Dec 1, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I disagree
The city hasn’t been very public in saying it’ll do whatever it takes to keep the team here. Now that isn’t a very good position to take if you’re at the negotiation table, but it would certainly assure certain fans (aka, me) that the city is willing to actually do something more than “go through the motions” to get the Chargers to stay.
There are a lot of bumper stickers in SD that read, “Stadium? Got one. How about a new library?”
It's sad to say but NO ONE goes to libraries anymore...
With ebooks and Borders in every westfield shopping center ppl like that kind of convenience. My point is A LOT of ppl would prefer a new Charger stadium over a new library,myself included. I know it’s harsh but a library has been in the works for years and a stadium is the only thing that can keep the team here,which one do you want???
Libraries are insanely useless these days.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
Oh no... THIS library is gonna be TOTALLY great
Its gonna be a multi-story homeless-camp, with a high school… heck they may even get one of those rally cool Mosques! Its gonna be awesome.
by Trendsearcher on Dec 1, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
I admit it
I love libraries. There, I said it and won’t take it back…
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Dec 1, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
This couldn't be more untrue.
My name is Guybrush Threepwood, and I'm a mighty pirate.
"How appropriate! You fight like a cow!"
Faceless slider-tossing goofs FTW.
by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 1, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Except to tools like Zach. :)
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Dec 1, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Phew
You fixed it.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
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Silver lining...if Chargers move to LA
More money, a larger fan base (assuming most San Diegans continue supporting the team), and more national media attention can only help the team. Big free agents may be easier to sign in LA. If the salary cap goes, the team is likely better financed in the long run in LA. Of course this is all wild speculation.
by RiversMVP on Dec 1, 2010 11:19 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I've been saying this for a while....
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by John Gennaro on Dec 1, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
LA live is very awesome
It has a Las Vegas feel to it with all the lights its quite an experience. (if they put the stadium next to Staples Center)
I don't even like the city of San Diego.
I wouldn’t live there.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
I just don't care for the city of San Diego. I live in San Diego County.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
I heard a rumor from Toronto
That the Chargers have been secretly poisoning opposing teams’ water supply. Thus the current winning streak (and most likely the previous winning streaks as well).
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
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Sire Norv!
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by John Gennaro on Dec 1, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
San Diego can make this worth Anchutz' while...
With a huge caveat, the city council has to attain something no SD politician has ever had… vision. Remember, also, the AEG has control of the Sports Arena. I’m thinking that if I’m the city council, I’m planning a retractable roof facility that can keep football, as well as draw Super Bowls, Final Fours, World Cup matches, boxing matches, expanded conventions (like Comic Con) etc. I still think you could pay for a huge chunk of this type of project simply by selling the land where Qualcomm and the Sports Arena is located and using that to pay off the redevelopment bonds. But it has to get started now.
"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe." - Dr. Leonard McCoy.
by Jeff (sliderockmpc) on Dec 1, 2010 11:33 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm confused
should I be sad, or terrified?
The sports team from my geographical area is superior to the sports team from your geographical area and will emerge victorious due to its very superiority.
by Superduperboltman on Dec 1, 2010 11:38 AM PST reply actions
What's the story in Minnesota?
I was reading on PFT earlier today that the Vikings ownership is in talks to move to LA as well. Surely, two teams wouldn’t move to LA….or would they? What are the chances the Vikings make the move to LA and the Chargers stay in SD as a result?
There is a proposal for 3 Stadiums
Downtown LA (AEG), Dodger Stadium (McCourt), and City of Industry (Majestic). Dont think Dodger Stadium would happen, but maybe 2 stadiums could.
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by hollywood_juan on Dec 1, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
On the other hand...
Maybe the NFL doesnt want a team in L.A….Yes it is a big market, BUT, there hasnt been a team there in years, and the nfl still holds that market….Why bother?
I think they'd like to have two.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
Ugh.
Makes me sick to think of them leaving San Diego.
by jbox on Dec 1, 2010 1:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
But how...
…will they be able to play their epic disco theme?
The biggest tragedy of them all.
Or the POD song for those opposed to the disco
#feelinacertaintypeofway
by sd_Baby-B on Dec 1, 2010 1:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
wait
Maybe NWA gets back together to start promoting the chargers and our championship (future) ways!
#feelinacertaintypeofway
by sd_Baby-B on Dec 1, 2010 1:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Don't forget the Skanic one.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
Yes Skanic, buddies of mine.
Ouch, I remind me of that coke dealer guy in boogie nights? “Ricky Springfield, buddy of mine”.
If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, then you will be fired with enthusiasm. Vince Lombardi
If the Chargers do stay in San Diego,
why build a stadium in downtown San Diego? If that’s where they build it you can say goodbye to you tailgating and wiffle ball games before the game, and plan on merging into a cluster F@#$ after every game. The present location is perfect. You have the trolley, I 8, I 15 , and a couple of miles away you have the 805. 163 and then the 5.When the time comes they can implode the current stadium and recycle the concrete and use it for the new stadium, or sell it. They can build the new stadium in sub assemblys and with help from the league as far as schedueling goes ,they could get 9 months to erect the new stadium, and if thats not long enough they can play a couple of other games in the Rose bowl or Phoenix. The current stadium was built in a full blown 100 year flood plain Freakin river bed. The best thing you could build there is a stadium
Bye the way,
What does the Freakin Mayor of San Diego have to say about all of this? Sander’s ass should be on fire right about now
Probably in the minotity but...
…Would love to see my Bolts up here in LA. Probably won’t happen, but as an LA-based Charger fan, it’s a nice dream.
I grew up in El Cajon but I live in Thousand Oaks since 2003
My friends and family live in San Diego and I always find time to go to a couple of games and visit with them .I would hate for the Chargers to leave San Diego
by RWTChargerfan on Dec 1, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, I grew up in Thousand Oaks and live in San Diego since the mid-90s
We swapped places, it appears.
Reseda to USD in 1985, and never ever went back
If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, then you will be fired with enthusiasm. Vince Lombardi
I hope your happy there
It’s very nice up here too
by RWTChargerfan on Dec 1, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
I actually...
live in Orange County (Seal Beach) and make it to a few games per year. I would love a Stadium in Anaheim though. Central access for LA, OC and SD Charger fans. Like I said though, not going to to happen.
If they do come to LA?
When would it be?
Would they leave the franchise in SD like the Browns/Ravens did?
Who would own the majority?
i thought there was a league rule about
cross ownership in other sports?
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Dec 1, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions
That's not an issue for Magic.
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Bloody Elbow // "Richard is a jewel." - Kid Nate
I’m pretty sure Magic just needed the cash, he also sold some starbucks stores he had. Guess he kept the movie theaters and 24 hour fitnesses.
by Orz on Dec 1, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
no, but it is for anschutz
he owns stakes in the La kings, lakers, and last i heard, stakes in allmost all the MLS teams(yes, he is pretty much to blame for soccer here in the states… the bastard!)
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by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Dec 2, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
You can be an owner of other sports team, but they have to be in the same city.
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by John Gennaro on Dec 2, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Magic Johnson is actively trying to get the Vikings in LA
So the news reports, anyway. Maybe we’ll dodge the bullet.
AEG needs to get something done soon due
to everyones favorite, “The Governator”, leaving office soon and taking with him the extremely valuable " environmental impact study waiver". Seriously, do you think Jerry “Green” Brown would facilitate such a waiver.
If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, then you will be fired with enthusiasm. Vince Lombardi
Can anyone tell me
If they do have another owner take over, and do end up moving to LA, is it possible that it could be a complete change in brand/logo/etc? Like the Oiler move to Tennessee?
Sure its possible, but fe teams do it
The Oilers and Browns were very poor brand names, so it made sense to change (plus I think Cleavland lobbied to hold on to the name).
But the Rams, Raiders, Cards none of those teams changed. I doubt the Chargers would.
by Trendsearcher on Dec 1, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
The Browns were forced to change
The NFL gave Cleveland the rights to the name “Browns” for whatever reason.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
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At this publicly, it's all speculative.
On the other hand, everything has been planned and decided.
If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, then you will be fired with enthusiasm. Vince Lombardi
Potential Hail Mary option
Al Davis (our lovable rival from the North) sues the NFL and the Chargers to prevent them from moving to LA (Al still claims the LA market after all). Ultimately not successful, but stalls the process long enough (and bitterly enough) to allow SD to get their new-stadium-act in order.
As long as we’re speculating, that is.
I actually think you have a great point here.
I guarantee you a huge portion of Raiders gear is sold in LA and he wouldn’t want to risk that drying up without a fight.
but...i had already gotten use to the name "L.A. Jaguars"
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
$%& you Magic Johnson
for even thinking about getting involved in this whole thing!
"i'm not inclined to resign to maturity"...PSYCH theme
by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Dec 2, 2010 6:46 PM PST reply actions
People forget about Roski and his shovel-ready project in Industry
Anyway, I want the Los Angeles Rams to move home. San Diego should be able to keep it’s Chargers.
LOS ANGELES ANGELS . . . ANAHEIM DUCKS . . . CALIFORNIA GOLDEN BEARS
FUCK STANFURD.
His "shovel-ready project in Industry"
Is dead in the water by most insiders’ accounts.
The National League West title was all but a lock,
Then they lost 10 in a row, ‘twas like a punch in the jock!
Bolts from the Blue - General Manager: It is what it isn't
Southern California Rams fan visiting from Turf Show Times
The Rams moving back to L.A. is a topic of discussion on our site also. In my opinion, the Chargers need to stay where they are. If any team comes to L.A. it needs to be the Rams. The fanbase for the Rams is already here and it’s evident with the amount of Southern California fans chiming in from time to time on the website.
IF the Chargers would move to L.A. they should be called the California Chargers, not L.A. It’s obvious that the majority of the Chargers fans will be out of San Diego county.
Do you really agree that the Chargers need a new stadium downtown? Looking at the area where Petco Field is for the Padres, is there any space to tailgate before the game there? To me tailgating, is one of the perks for going to the game. Where the Chargers stadium is now is perfect for tailgating.
Oh, and the comment about libraries, if you have kids, it’s the perfect place to take them to get their homework done. Barnes and Noble never has enough room to sit down because their always so damn busy. Can’t do homework at home with all the distractions.
Oh and by the way, please punch the Raiders in the mouth this weekend. I frickin HATE the Raiders, their fans and their stupid ass Nation.
I'm suffering from an extreme case of laurinaitis!

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