Antonio Gates Suffers Another Foot Injury; Doubtful For Houston
by Wonko on Nov 3, 2010 8:02 PM PDT
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PrintKevin Acee of the San Diego Union Tribune reports that Chargers TE Antonio Gates has torn his plantar fascia and is barely able to walk while rehabbing the injury. He quotes a specialist that believes that the demands of Gates' position would make it too difficult for him to play. He also mentions that Gates himself said after the Titans game that he wouldn't be able to face Houston.
The Chargers are already going to be without WRs Vincent Jackson, Malcom Floyd, Legedu Naanee and Buster Davis for the game. Chances are we'll see more of Ryan Mathews and Mike Tolbert running the ball, Darren Sproles and Jacob Hester catching the ball out of the backfield and some additional catches for Patrick Crayton, Seyi Ajirotutu, Gary Banks, Randy McMichael and Kris Wilson.
The Chargers faced a similar situation against the Patriots when Gates was used mostly as a decoy for the majority of the game before catching a TD pass late. In the game vs the Patriots the Chargers were undone mainly by fumbles and not necessarily because the passing game struggled. However, it still begs the question of how much influence the future Hall of Fame TE has on the passing game even when he is just a decoy? Philip Rivers will still be able to make passes and move the chains, but will the offense be effective enough to do some of the amazing things they are asked to do week in and week out?
The bye week follows the Houston game and personally I'm going to forgo thinking about the length of this injury until that week passes. Here's what the specialist was quoted as saying about the injury:
Dr. Phillip Kwong, a foot specialist with the Kerlan-Jobe Orthopaedic Clinic, said people find it difficult to walk for two weeks or more after tearing a plantar fascia.
"I think it’s going to be really tough to play with any proficiency this Sunday, unless they do a remarkable job anesthetizing him," Kwong said. "… He has a lot of demands on him at his position," Kwong said. "This injury will make it difficult for him to push off and be explosive."
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That was a toe injury. Plantar fascia is essentially the arch of your foot.
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as the article says
planar fasciaitis was what Gates got checked for in the off-season during that trip to the east coast specialist. So it is something that has been around, just not slowing him down too much until now. Strangely, the article seems to imply that tearing the PF will enable it to heal properly so he should be better off once it is healed…
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Nov 4, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Plantar Facia
Years ago I suffered from an inflammation of the Plantar Facia. I was still limping 6 months later. I cannot begin to consider how long a tear will take to heal.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 4, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
From doing some research
tears are actually easier to deal with than normal inflammation or plantar fasciitis. It’s far less painful, and it seems that one form of treatment of inflammation is actually to sever the ligament the rest of the way.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 4, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
It was Faciitis that I had
I am glad it isn’t so bad. I hope he is gets healthy and back on the field soon. I don’t know how the bolts keep the passing game going with all the injuries (and the vj thing).
My local team (Winnipeg Blue Bombers) has a guy named Greg Carr whom, IIRC, was with the Chargers for awhile. He has been one the bright spots in a dismal year for us.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 4, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Always liked Greg Carr. He had Floyd’s inspector-gadget arms.
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Carr
Generally he has been quite good though I have noticed him taking the odd play off. Cost him at least one TD imo but as long as he learns from it I predict a bright future here. I will be surprised if he isn’t offered a contract for next year though I am certain he will be NFL bound if any NFL team shows the least bit of interest. Let’s face it, most players will make more on an NFL practice squad than on a CFL roster.
Now all we need is a QB (we are down to 4th string due to injuries) and an o-line.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Nov 4, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
If it's negative I don't want to hear it eliminating playa haters with their evil spirits!
by Controversysells on Nov 3, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
just our luck
whos next? rivers? did i just jinx us?
If you read the acee article
Gates says he might try to play this week. Who knows but man u gotta love him man he is such a warrior.
Not good at all
When are really going to find out how good Rivers is now that he’s playing with scrub practice squad skill players
IMO
I can’t believe Gary Banks is our 3rd WR.
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thanks aj
you didnt have to suspend jackson for three games once he reported beck … but you did and now he could be playing but because of your stupidity he isnt
if VJ wasn’t on the roster exempt list, he wouldn’t have come in until later. One way or the other, he is only going to play the last 6 games of the year… At least this way we get to have him up to speed for the last 6 games…
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Nov 4, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
You know he would have waited until the last instant and come in out of shape. This way he has some reps and should be at least in early season form.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 4, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
There we go
I knew this was AJ’s fault some how.
Damn you AJ Smith’s Ego!
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
Nope.
This is just an example of a fan not paying attention.
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No! No! No! No! No! No! No! Noooooooooooooooo!!!
If it's negative I don't want to hear it eliminating playa haters with their evil spirits!
by Controversysells on Nov 3, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm officially sad now!
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by Controversysells on Nov 3, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions
This will be
Norv’s biggest challenge of the yr. Ground & Pound all first half, prey for some good luck and the lead at halftime, then hit them with some play-action in the second half. Sproles’ returns & field position will be huge in this game.
Bummer big time.
Plus Gates has been killin’ on my fantasy team – there goes my season.
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Rivers will have to repeat what P. Manning just did.
Put up or shut up
not a fair comparison
Manning had Garcon and Reggie Wayne active (and anthony gonzalez). Rivers is going to be without his top 4 receivers. Can’t remember a quarterback that has had to do that.
by BeantownFriar on Nov 4, 2010 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Good points.
You wouldn’t know that listening to ESPN.
HEADLINE: Payton Manning carries his whole team on his back, throwing touchdowns to himself, aces the MCAT, finally gets one of those giant pandas knocked up, then kicks the winning fieldgoal(worth 4pts.)
What are all the Injuries?
Davis is out with a groin injury for th season I believe.
Jackson isn’t injured (unless you count monstrous stupidity), just suspended for two more games.
Gates we just read about.
But what about Floyd and Naanee? How much longer are they out? Does anyone know?
Acee’s notes look bleak re: Floyd and Naanee. Both are doubtful for Sunday I believe.
Jackson isn’t injured, but Acee makes the right point in his article that all evidence is that he would not yet be in camp if he was not suspended (needed to report to get the suspension over in time for him to play in enough games to get credit for the season).
We need to get the running game going early against Houston and control the clock. It sounds like we may not have the tools we need to get in a shootout.
by BeantownFriar on Nov 4, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions
But what about Floyd and Naanee? How much longer are they out? Does anyone know?
They’re both hamstring injuries, which has never had a set timetable for recovery.
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I think it'd be fair
That you can expect them back for the Broncos Monday Night game barring any setbacks.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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Monday Night
Isn’t that when Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman is on? Seriously, who watches that?
I'm crying right now
Who will Rivers throw to??? Can Randy McMichael be half the man Gates is? Will he play and rest 14 days? will he sit and rest 20? Will he get a bionic rubber carbide titanium sort of body replacement? Will anything man-made be anywhere near as effective as what God gave him? Is this the end of the season? (for my fantasy teams?) Can any of my questions be answered?
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by Superduperboltman on Nov 4, 2010 6:29 AM PDT reply actions
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by John Gennaro on Nov 4, 2010 8:10 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
He's just playing possum
Stop freaking out people. It seems that every week Gates gets another injury, and every week he goes out and performs even better. If the pattern of the last few weeks holds, I fully expect 200+ yards and 4 TDs from him against the Texans. This is all part of his master plan to get the defense to write him off.
Right?
Just great.
Gates has plantar fascia, and he could be out the rest of the year.
We lost Davis due to a groin injury, he’s on IR
Jackson’s not hurt, but he’s a dumbass.
And we won’t have Floyd or Nanee due to hammies…and I think either onr or both are pretty much done for the year.
Now’s the time for Norv to establish the running game and for the O-Line to not be offensive.
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by Jonathan Holmes on Nov 4, 2010 10:01 AM PDT reply actions
Gates has plantar fascia, and he could be out the rest of the year.
Where did you read that? I read that he’s been playing with this plantar fascia problem all season and has only been able to do so thanks to intense pain killing injections. I also read that it being torn, while obviously more painful now, will allow it to heal faster going into the future. Based on that I’d say the outlook for Gates the rest of the season has improved. However, these are all preliminary medical reports and we should know with more certainty after we begin to track the rate his body begins to heal it.
And we won’t have Floyd or Nanee due to hammies…and I think either onr or both are pretty much done for the year.
I think if the Chargers staff agreed with you we’d be reading much more dire things from Acee regarding the two of them.
I could probably wonk Detective Holmes a little better
But this will suffice.
No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.
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quote of the day
jacksons not hurt … just a dumbass hahahaha
Now
I cry
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
Houston Run D...
is ranked 14th. One better than Titans… allowing 104 ypg. We should be able to run on them. And they are dead last against the pass allowing 299 ypg. I think PR can move the ball on them.
Gates this Sunday
65 Yards, 1 TD as a decoy. All while high as a kite on painkillers.
Actually, he might just want to shut it down and give himself three straight weeks without putting weight on the damn thing. He’s, what, 260 lbs? Putting all that weight on his foot is not the way to get healthy. He already injured it by compensating for his toe/ankle injury. It’s the whole Merriman thing all over again where he kept hurting other body parts trying to compensate for a bum knee in 2009 and bad achilles in 2010. When you’re as big as these two guys are, it seems like it’s easier to cause new injuries running around the field on one leg. After all, the way to characterize both Merriman and Gates is to say they are freaks of nature who shouldn’t be as fast and agile as they are considering their gargantuan size.
Injury curse
What is it with the Chargers and injuries? They seem to focus on injuring everyone at one position too. Last year it was the D line, this year it’s the WRs. Ugh.
Domino effect, perhaps
Someone who isn’t used to playing as much (or isn’t ready for full time service) gets forced into more action and tries to do too much, creating another injury. Then it just keeps going down the line. I don’t know, just speculating.
I still think Floyd or Naanee might play
They’ll get you know what guys, this is a bad idea for you guys to play, but guess what we don’t really have a margin for error, so both you guys are playing.
As ridiculous as this sounds AJ find Josh Reed’s phone number!!!
Now is your time to shine
Ajirotutu!
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
He's quickly becoming a favorite
You guys check his video with Anne this week?
Chargers Roll (with Cesaire) was great as well.
Davis is definitley not playing, Naanee is doubtful, Floyd is probable, Gates doubtful, Crayton playing, Jackson suspended (damn you aj). It looks like Rivers will be throwing to 2 good wide outs, and a bunch of crappy players. I really want V JAX right now
sorry i just actually read the post and Floyd is out, well this is similar to our game against a much better new england patriots team. But yet we had Buster and an injured gates for that game. Look on the bright side though, Houston has one of the worst secondarys in the NFL
by celticsox937 on Nov 4, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Jackson isn't suspended.
He’s on the roster exempt list. If Jackson wasn’t on the roster exempt list, he would still be sitting out right now, so you wouldn’t have him in this game regardless.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 4, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think his point is valid
There is a scenario where we could have had VJ right now, and wouldn’t that be nice? AJ could have made it happen faster. You can disagree with that position, but it’s a valid point. Hindsight being 20-20, etc.
It's not really a valid point
We all know that VJ was not going to sign until the last 6 games. He just signed earlier because he is on the roser exempt list.
And you can’t start to blame AJ for VJ having retarded agents.
If VJ was on the team for this game, he would have been on the team from the beginning. Which probably would have avoided a lot of the injuries. Or VJ could have taken the wheel of the team bus after a few too many and killed/maimed/injured the ENTIRE team. So the whole VJ playing this game it a moot point.
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
*is a moot point
not it
6/10/2010 - Tra Thomas signs with the Chargers
8/21/2010 - Tra Thomas retires.
That was fast.
"2 good wide outs"
Crayton and who? Not Tutu or Gary Banks. There’s a reason why these guys are practice squad players. I saw very litte from Tutu and nothing from Banks last week vs TN. I’m hopeful Tutu can be a decent WR2 or 3 in the future, but he’s not there now. Maybe Naanee can play on his gimpy hammy. The other TEs have been terrible this season. Poor Rivers.
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