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Show me where it hurts: Chargers vs Broncos

UPDATE 11-22-2010

UPDATE 2- TE Antonio Gates will not play, nor will Ryan Mathews.

Here are the Charger injuries so far

PlayerPosInjuryParticipationGame Status
Antonio Gates TE Toe DNP Questionable
Ryan Mathews RB Ankle DNP Doubtful
Malcom Floyd WR Hamstring Full Participation
Probable
Nate Kaeding K Manhood Full Participation Probable
Brandon Siler ILB Foot Full Participation Probable
Steve Gregory SS Shoulder DNP Doubtful
Travis Johnson DE Shoulder Limited Questionable
Legedu Naanee WR Hamstring DNP Doubtful
Kris Wilson TE Back DNP Questionable

 

Denver's Injury report is much shorter

PlayerPosInjuryParticipationGame Status
Andre Goodman CB Hip DNP Out
Robert Ayers OLB Foot Limited Questionable
Darcel McBath S Ankle Limited Questionable
Eddie Royal WR Hamstring Limited Questionable(yay!)

 

Update

Eddie Royal suffered a setback with a hamstring strain, and is officially questionable. He will probably play, but the speedy returner may not be 100% come game time. This is good news as he's been trouble for the special teams unit in the past.

Goodman and Ayers didn't play last game for Denver, and it isn't looking so good for Ayers come Monday night. Neither of those players are significant to the Bronco Defense for two reasons. They've been ineffective, and they have to face Philip Rivers. Robert Ayers is nowhere near as good as Elvis Dumervil, and Darcel McBath is nowhere near Brian Dawkins, so their time is usually of the breather variety for the starters.

What do the Charger injuries mean for the gameplan? Kyle Orton, as John Gennaro pointed out, should be "feared" because of how great he's played the Quarterback position this year.  While I think it is a stretch to have such a high opinion of sir Neckbeard, he is trailing Rivers closely as far as stats are concerned. However, Rivers is the type of quarterback that routinely makes cornerbacks, linebackers and safeties look like Lot's wife when he makes a throw to anybody who decides to put on a uniform with an "eligible receiver" number on the back and an unpronounceable name (optional). He is the quarterback who shall be feared. After all, he's put up brilliantly consistent production with little more than a practice squad worth of players. But with so much hype about a possible 800 combined passing yard day, can Orton put up the 500 yards necessary for a game like that to happen? Is the Charger defense really going to have their worst showing (yards-wise) this year?

Star-divide

The easiest way to keep Orton off the field is to run the clock with a running game. As has been the case on numerous occasions this year, rookie RB Ryan Mathews has been dealing with injuries. Although he may suit up and play, there is an equal if not greater probability that the Rocket Hog (as I call him for obvious reasons) Mike Tolbert will take over and run over a soft Bronco Defense that has characteristically been an Orange Mush by allowing a 30th ranked 143 rushing yards per game. However, there will also be an increased load on Darren Sproles, which he can handle, and Jacob Hester as well. With both Hester and Tolbert used to special teams duty, will they hold up against the Bronco's special teams attack if they are used more in the offensive gameplan? Hopefully, they can. With all-world TE Antonio Gates possibly not playing, establishing the running game and keeping the Charger Defense fresh and rested to stop the (h)air Orton show will be a top priority. 

The Bronco's have been susceptible to play-action this year, and with Malcom Floyd returning from his hamstring injury, Rivers will now have a kill shot available throughout the game, assuming Floyd doesn't aggravate his injury. Against a relatively weak Bronco defense, putting up points should be no issue for Norv Turner's offense. Ron Rivera's defense, however, needs to bring their A game. 

 

The loss of Brandon Siler has been felt thoroughly. The 3 worst games this run defense has had this year, Siler has been injured, leaving Kevin Burnett and Stephen Cooper to play all game and try to do what he's so good at. I've already pointed out that Burnett's only weakness is playing the run, but with Denver having such a weak rushing attack, it may not matter. As long as Siler can play good coverage during intermediate routes and against tight ends, the Charger defense won't need to do anything special to stop the run than what they've done all year. When they do run, it needs to be stufffed. The last thing Ron Rivera wants is to keep Eric Weddle playing in the box with Brandon Lloyd, arguably the leagues best deep threat, sprinting down the sideline on play-action. 

This defense seems to play better with Steve Gregory in the mix, and if he can play at 100%, it will be a big help to the corners and linebackers equally. Travis Johnson is playing well, and has been very good at giving Castillo, Cesaire and Garay a spell. He should get plenty of opportunities to rush Kyle Orton, as well as stuff run plays. Overall, the defense has been fantastic this year, getting better and better since 2008 when Rivera took over halfway through the season. As long as they don't have any breakdowns or slip ups like the 2 against Tennessee and Houston, Orton shouldn't hit his normal 300 yard average, and the Bronco run offense should produce no more than 3.5 yards per carry

Finally, special teams. Nate Kaeding seems to be doing fine now, so while Kris Brown may still be on the roster come game day, Kaeding should have his life back to normal. If Tolbert and Hester can play special teams without being any less fresh than usual, Eddie Royal won't do what he did last year (hopefully). In conclusion, with Malcom Floyd coming back to make up for a possibly absent Antonio Gates, Rivers should still have a 300 yard game and the defense should hold the Broncos to 23 points and never threaten the 34 Norv Turners offense scores. 

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I like your optimism.

I think the Bolts have a good chance. I don’t like the 10-point spread. I do think you underestimate Keanu Rickman.

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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 19, 2010 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

I don't mind the spread

I think if they play well they will cover it easily.

If they self destruct, implode and engage in foot shooting they will flat out lose and the spread won’t have mattered.

Putting the game away early or not will be the key.

'Special' Teams means those guys ride in a big orange bus, right?
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by The Land Of Real Beer on Nov 20, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

correct.

they’ve lost 3 games by double digits. And if the Raiders could hold him under 200 yards, so can the Bolts! besides, i picked them to cover in my office pool.

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 20, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Before I finish your article

You are wrong about mcbath and ayers. Ayers is our starting olb solid at setting the edge and even pretty good at pass rushing. Mcbath is as good as Dawkins in coverage and seems to be our future starter, he will come in on passing downs -shoulda picked cassel last wek

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by Sergio AppleSeed on Nov 19, 2010 9:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Ayers has

one whole sack, and a half sack. And I said backup because of Dumervil. I’ve watched film on him and he’s very inconsistent at pressure. McBath may be pretty good in coverage, but run support? Not like Dawkins.

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 20, 2010 5:35 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Ayers is not doom's backup hes a starting OLB

what he does great is set the edge and stop the run, hes also not bad at generating pressure.

you are right about McBath

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by Sergio AppleSeed on Nov 20, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

My mistake

but it’s still true about Dumervil. He was a beast last year, and not having him has been huge.

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 20, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

probably not.

but what about the other 8 weeks?
before the Cheifs game, the Broncos were averaging a whopping ONE sack per game. After that 4 sack performance, the Broncos now have 13 sacks this year. Half as many as the team they’re facing monday night.

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 20, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd say the broncos are missing him

even last week and definatly the others

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by Sergio AppleSeed on Nov 20, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss Doom..

I you didn’t or the team didn’t..Whatever..I sure miss em’..Dude is a sack master, and the entire defense is different w/out him.

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by timmaybronco on Nov 22, 2010 12:51 AM PST reply actions  

Broncos fans crack me up.

Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.

by Mad_Villain on Nov 22, 2010 4:10 AM PST reply actions  

Update BFTB

New injury news has been posted

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 22, 2010 6:47 AM PST reply actions  

Since you made that Biblical reference about Lot's wife

Maybe we need one of the Hottie Charger faithfuls to cut off Orton’s beard hair ala Samson and Delilah.

by Trendsearcher on Nov 22, 2010 8:50 AM PST reply actions  

Lol

that’s a good one.

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 22, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Just to clarify on Ayers and McBath...

Ayers has been our starting strongside OLB for all of this year, and he has played lights-out for us. He is awesome at setting the edge against the run game and either making plays in the backfield or funneling runners inside to D.J.Williams and Mario Haggan, and he single-handedly shut down the entire right side when we played Chris Johnson and the Titans. We held CJ2K to something like 2.5 YPC that game.

Yes, he’s not as effective at rushing the passer as Dumervil is, but that’s not his primary function in this defense. When he is called on to go after the quarterback, he possesses a surprisingly solid bull rush, and while he doesn’t get a lot of sacks, I believe he was leading the team in quarterback pressures before he got injured (read it somewhere and can’t remember, otherwise I would cite the info). He’s also been decent in zone coverage, especially against running backs coming out of the backfield.

We run a lot of 3-3-5 nickel defense, and that is where we miss McBath. He excels at playing center field and covering tight ends; you’ll recall that we had him singled up against Antonio Gates for most of our fist game against you last year. While he won’t be missed as much as Ayers, he is a solid young player and we wish we could see him on the field more. Oh, and he’s also a demon on special teams.

The injury that means the least to us is CB Andre’ Goodman, because of the emergence of Perrish Cox. Cox is a 5th round pick that’s playing like a 2nd round pick. Rivers will burn him at times and he will get himself out of position, but I think he’ll demonstrate that he has the tools to become a very good player for us in the future if he establishes a little consistency.

Sorry about the novel’ I just wanted to help clear some things up.

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by Joe Kayser on Nov 22, 2010 9:13 AM PST reply actions  

So who's job is it to get in the QB's face?
but that’s not his primary function in this defense.

Pressure is where it all begins to stop a good passing team. How do you guys get it done if the OLB isn’t the guy who’s supposed to be in the QB’s face?

I’m beginning to feelinacertiantypeofway about this game tonight. Not much OLB pressure for Philip Rivers? This could become a shoot out. Maybe Justin Bannan should take a play out of the Richard Seymour playbook and try decking Philip Rivers… because w/o LB pressure PR is gonna absolutely destroy the Denver secondary.

by Trendsearcher on Nov 22, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Ayers only has one sack

and when I watched film he plays like a certain OLB the Chargers have named Jyles Tucker.
Ayers plays the run fairly well but overruns a lot on his pass rush, and he’s been terrible compared to Dumervil who was a beast

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 22, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, I went back to watch some of that game film from Tennessee

Ayers did play fairly well. He rotated a lot from left to right side, but did his best on the left side. Also, he benefits a lot from this guy: Jamal Williams

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 22, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

would like it if there were clarification re: Gates vs McMichaels before the game starts

i have both of them on my fantasy team and want to know who to start… as a fantasy football player (as im sure you all are) there is literally nothing i hate more than “game time decision”

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by justdave on Nov 22, 2010 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

Gates was running

and might play

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 22, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

actually ya know what thats on my beast mode team that has already won so it doesnt matter

thank you Mike Vick stinkbomb last night!

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by justdave on Nov 22, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd use McMichaels if he was hand cuffed to Gates

Frankly with a torn muscle in the arch of his foot I do not know why they keep trying to get more plays out of Gates. Heathy he’s one of the best TEs going. On one leg? Not so much. Why the team hasn’t figured out that sans a successful operation Gates is done contributing I don’t know.

McMichaels is the understudy, And he’s been scoring since Gates went down.

by Trendsearcher on Nov 22, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Gates is out

I know you know this. But, I’m letting the rest know. Its confirmed by Kevin Acee, ESPN and Marty Caswell.

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on Nov 22, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Chargers inactives- Antonio Gates, Kris Brown, Legedu Naanee, Ryan Mathews, Steve Gregory, Kris Wilson, Darrell Stuckey & Travis Johnson

Broncos inactives: B. Quinn 3rd QB; Goodman, Ayers, Maroney, VAughn, Daniels, E. Olsen, Veikune

No, I don't think you're an idiot. Please don't go trying to prove me wrong about that.

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by Wonko on Nov 22, 2010 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

Thanx Wonko

saved me some time

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by Superduperboltman on Nov 22, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

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