Chargers Defeat Redskins 23-20
by Richard Wade on Jan 3, 2010 4:36 PM PST
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The Chargers closed out the regular season with a hard-fought win over the Washington Redskins. Rivers and the starters delivered a 10-0 lead to the reserves with three quarters left to play. They did just enough to hold on.
The Redskins had outscored the Chargers reserves 20-6 when they gave the ball back up four points with 4:33 left to play. Craig Davis returned a short kick off 22 yards to the San Diego 42. From there Billy Volek marched the offense the remaining 58 yards for the go-ahead touchdown. He did it by spreading the ball around. Michael Bennett, Davis, Malcom Floyd and Mike Tolbert all touched the ball on the 12 play, nearly four minute long drive.
It was a closer game than it likely would have been had the Chargers had anything to play for, but San Diego showed a lot in this one. Malcom Floyd had a career day both in yards and receptions. Craig Davis looked like a player the Chargers can afford to rely on. And the defensive reserves who initially looked over matched in the 2nd Quarter held Washington to only six points in the 2nd Half.
Most importantly, the Chargers suffered no major injuries.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one
But I winced every time Buster got hit, expecting him to not come back up. I realize he’s not that fragile, but it’s still a concern, heh.
Not the only one...
Worse for me, was the fact we needed him the last 2 years, and everytime he caught it today, he acted like he was Bruce Willis in Unbreakeable, instead of Samuel L. Jackson. I’m glad he’s healthy and all, but it was pretty obvious he was performing for a new contract….
Besides that, Bolts win… and all is well. The end stat for the game was the cherry on top: 20+ points scored in 22 straight games. Awesome!
by TecateBoltsFan on Jan 3, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
I’m glad he’s healthy and all, but it was pretty obvious he was performing for a new contract….
How exactly did you come to that conclusion?
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by Richard Wade on Jan 3, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
Performing for a chance to get on the field is more like it.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 4, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously!
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Nice win
nice to keep the streak going, even though it felt like a preseason game… had a hard time staying awake. Also nice to see Denver lose.
Denver got mauled
I lovrf that they lost to KC
If I owned the Chiefs I would request not to have to play a divisional opponent in week 17 next year seeing as how last year and this year they got blown out big time
by carneypower2005 on Jan 3, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I agree.
This team is awesome.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 3, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
I like this season better
But you can’t say its the best regular season ever if regular season success is measured off the teams record.
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No
But they did win ten straight.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 4, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
That’s less than 11, isn’t it?
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by Richard Wade on Jan 4, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I'm having trouble digesting this bit
He did it by spreading the ball around.
What did he spread it around like? Butter? Cream cheese? Nutella?
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Those would be awesome nicknames for our 2nd stringers
“Butter” Davis. Malcolm Floyd can be Nutella. Tolbert is Jam/Jelly.
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Nutella is good stuff.
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Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
As long as the sandwich has no mayo...Its always great
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You misunderstand
It’s hard to digest because it wasn’t compared to a food.
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Sorry
you asked for it because while pointing out the bizarre food metaphorical language… you had to say digest. I mean, are you eating his words? Uh-oh hopefully you won’t be making me eat my words… at least give me some Nutella to put on them before I have to…
OK.
I’m done now.
I think this win has to solidify
That the Chargers are the deepest team in the league. The Colts and Saints sat their starters today and lost and really didn’t even keep it close, and its not like the Redskins are any worse than the Bills and the Panthers.
In AJ we trust.
I think the Redskins are better than the Bills
But worse than the Panthers. Panthers have Jonathan Stewart, a good passing D, and Matt Moore is slowly coming to his own.
Bills don’t really have anything except a good pass D. I would trust Matt Moore with a ball in his hands than Fitzpatrick.
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hey
Fred Jackson ain’t bad
Aybar is a nowhere man, Sitting in his Nowhere Land, Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
by princeton11loveshalos on Jan 3, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
You can't put Jonathan Stewart and Fred Jackson on the same level
in terms of talent and dominance.
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The Panthers are actually a pretty decent football team.
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Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
I thought that was implied.
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Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
Ever since they got him out of the lineup
and John Fox stopped calling pass plays, the Panthers have been much better. I’ve no idea why it took them so long.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
broncos fail.
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Got this off a post on yahoo sports...
Congrats Chargers fans! You deserved to win the AFC West Division, you are the best team in the AFC West. As for my Broncos, well, there is always next year. Once a donkey, always a donkey fan and I’ll wait to see what the off-season brings. Hopefully, a full-team lobotomy and some great players!! Peace…
This is a Bronco fan who has class
by carneypower2005 on Jan 3, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
Likewise
Keep any Bronco heckling to yourself. I remember when the disappointing Chargers (late 90s) seasons as vivdly as last season. Never a good feeling.
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i wasn't heckling.
just stating the obvious.
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since when did this place get so positive where any comment that is slightly negative gets flamed.
where i can’t state opinions. obviously i’m not cursing or blatantly bashing. there have been more posters calling broncos “donkeys” etc.
i didn’t know saying “fail” = classless.
wtf happened here? haha
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I'm with u on this one
After everything that was done ie: trying to start something in pre game warm ups, mcdaniels saying he owns us….why can’t we poke a little fun looking at them collapse again? Just my opinion
by NorthCountyBolt on Jan 3, 2010 5:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
since when did this place get so positive where any comment that is slightly negative gets flamed.
It didn’t. Feel free to “heckle” the Broncos as long as you keep it clean.
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Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
awesome.
thanks.
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but go ahead and avoid saying "fail" anyway
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haha
collapse?
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Unless you can work in a picture of a cat.
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Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
poor cat
i would hate life…
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for someone with a pun hatred
I wouldn’t expect you to be perpetuating this drivel.
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I don’t know why I do, but I love those stupid cats.
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Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
The cats can stay
but the fail has to go. It’s not adding anything to the cat, in fact I think it’s holding it back.
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I'm beating the s out of this off-topic point, I know
but isn’t this better?
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or
fail…[to make the playoffs].
which comment seems nicer to you, that makes you happy inside?
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something funny or original
anything but fail.
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haha ok.
i could clear things with you before i post? what do you think?
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anyways.
no hard feelings broham. =)
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put it like this
Broncos fans think that’s funny. You’re better than them, right?
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rephrase
i dont know what you’re talking about
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nevermind
fail is fail, that’s all you need to know.
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We are the best team in the NFL
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 3, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
anyone hear the report on Brady playing with 3 cracked/broken ribs?
Also saying he has a broken ring finger
If we had a pass rush I would be salivating at hearing this news.
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That's rough
Must be tough for the Pats to lose one of your biggest playmakers in a game that doesn’t really matter.
Best to hope he has a speedy recovery.
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Not suprised to hear how severe it actually is.
It looked pretty bad…
Reasons why Kenjon Barner is awesome: He is a special teams stud. He is an incredibly versatile halfback. The TaZeR formation kicks ass. Kenjon is a rad first name.
Ouch. They got nailed by what we hoped to avoid (and did so successfully).
I hope Wes has a speedy recovery. I also hope that Sam Aiken can be covered more easily by Steve Gregory.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jan 3, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
any thoughts on how Cincy will do tonight?
I think they’ll play for the 3rd seed since NE lost unless Jets pull a KC on them and start blowing them out
They said Benson is out and Ochocinco pulled something during the pre-game warmups
I wouldn’t discount the Bengals. It’ll be low scoring, that’s for sure.
Angels 2010: We need a starting pitcher, not a kneeless hitter!
Never underestimate the Mark Sanchez blowing it factor,
So NYJ could easily lose 38-0
Reasons why Kenjon Barner is awesome: He is a special teams stud. He is an incredibly versatile halfback. The TaZeR formation kicks ass. Kenjon is a rad first name.
I have a feeling most of the plays will be handoffs to Jones or very short passes
Angels 2010: We need a starting pitcher, not a kneeless hitter!
A game in which Travis Johnson AND Buster Davis were not hurt...
That is truly remarkable!!!
Reasons why Kenjon Barner is awesome: He is a special teams stud. He is an incredibly versatile halfback. The TaZeR formation kicks ass. Kenjon is a rad first name.
haven't posted in a while
but. go bolts. thought we were screwed when 2-3. and proved the improbable pulling an 11 game win streak w/ a grip load of injuries. i remember when even the most hopeful were pulling for at least a wild card. and another broncos collapse = afc win.
biggest improvement = Defense.
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Jumped off the band wagon?
Who cares! Welcome back! Just make sure to buy tix for the next game, and be LOUD!
by TecateBoltsFan on Jan 3, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
Almost Perfect
The win was great and keeps that winning feeling going, no injuries was the icing on top. The missing cherry is Cinci beating NYJ and putting NE in the Colts’ half for post-season.
I think I’d almost rather play New England than Cincy.
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I definitely would
although in the 1st quarter Bengals players are dropping like flies, and they really miss Maualuga.
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No matter what happens in the game tonight
Baltimore will play at New England next week. I think that’s good, as one of those teams will be OUT.
I think I’d rather play the Jets, Texans, or Bengals actually — due to those teams’ lack of playoff experience.
But bring on the Patriots OR the Ravens, too/instead. I’m fine with any of it.
by jctess on Jan 3, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope the Texans get in
I thought they were new and exciting when they joined the league, and then a clusterfart of bad personnel decisions (like David Carr) slammed them into the ground. They’ve never been my “other team” per se, but I’m happy to see them coming around.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jan 3, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
David Carr was never their problem.
Their offensive line was
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Carr made the line look worse by holding the ball too long.
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Just Curious
what the odds were after we lost that game to Denver on Monday night. The odds for the Chargers to win the west and the odds the Broncos would at least make the playoffs. I remember hearing it here at the time.
Odds of Broncos making the playoffs was something like 98%
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first team ever
to go 6-0 and miss the playoffs.
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hmm i must be mistaken
but yes, its quite sweet.
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You're only slightly mistaken, they're the third team to do it
With the loss, Denver was eliminated from playoff contention, becoming the third team in NFL history to start 6-0 and miss the postseason
The Vikings were the other team (besides the '78 'Skins)
to start 6-0 and miss the play-offs…. I think it was ’02 (but might have been ’03).
Last year
They were the first team ever to have a 3 game lead with 3 games to go and miss the playoffs.
Broncos, setting records for FAIL. That one was for you, Ryan.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 3, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
actually...
they had a 4 game lead las year.
I remember San Diego was 4-8 and needed to win out and Denver to lose out for them to win it
by carneypower2005 on Jan 4, 2010 12:26 AM PST up reply actions
Sam is correct.
When the Chargers were 4-8, the Broncos were 7-5. A three game lead. The Broncos and Chargers both won the following week, making them 5-8 and 8-5. Then the Broncos proceeded to lose their last three games of the season.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 4, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
i should've bet on the chargers to make the superbowl
when they were 2-3. would’ve made some $$
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Bring on New England...
…would be huge for the team 1) to serve up a cold plate of revenge to them for taking us out of the tournament in 2006 (in the same 2nd round game, at home, etc).
2) Rivers to have a chance to best Brady and Manning in the playoffs on his way to the SBowl to best Favre, Brees or Warner. What a statement for him. He lives for that kind of stuff.
And, I think our offense can pick apart their (NEngland’s) porous D easier than Cincy’s. Them not having Welker helps too. A bit more payback for them beating us in 2007 when our best offensive weapons were all hurt.
Depends on the postseason. If he plays really, really well but the team loses in the AFC Championship I could see him coming back for another year. Albeit, he’d probably have a reduced role. I think the most likely option is him retiring completely.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 3, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think he comes back under any circumstances.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He'd have to take a HUGE pay-cut.
Hopefully he goes out with a victory … on February 7th!
… But it’s a long way until then…. No doubt two tough games to just get there, let alone the SB itself…. One step at a time…. ;)
isn't the SB on February 14 this year?
by carneypower2005 on Jan 4, 2010 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
My point was, especially without a CBA, this team is returning most (if not all) of it’s starters next season. If the Chargers come a play or two away, LT knows he only has one or two years left and wants nothing more than a SB ring so he might be willing to take that huge pay cut just to be a part of it. Have you seen how happy he’s been this year? That counts.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 4, 2010 12:45 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i hope he retires
after our superbowl win this year.
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got this off NFL.COM...
1. San Diego Chargers (13-3, No. 2 seed)
There might not be a hotter team in the league.
The Chargers have an offense that is every bit as explosive as the Colts’. Philip Rivers has played spectacularly, and is taking advantage of all of his highly talented weapons. They put pressure on every opponent by getting off to quick leads and making the other team one-dimensional.
If the Chargers have a weakness, it is the middle of their defense, which hasn’t been the same since losing tackle Jamal Williams at the beginning of the year to a season-ending torn triceps. Power running games can have success, but power running isn’t going to win in the playoffs. It takes dynamic passing attacks, and the Chargers have a good enough pass rush to deal with any that come their way.
The Colts should certainly fear the fact that the Chargers have bounced them from the playoffs in each of the last two years.
Fear factor: 8.5
Scariest team in the AFC=awesome :-)
by carneypower2005 on Jan 4, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
The only fear is
What happens if we DONT’T get off to a quick lead…
by SJO on Jan 6, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Buster Davis
Looked extremely excited and pumped up today….. I guess that’s what being healthy and finally getting to play after watching your teammates kick butt all year will do to you. I liked what I saw from him. He didn’t try to do anything crazy returning kicks, and he’s actually a bit taller than I remembered. Definitely a nice player to have around next year for depth if we lose anybody this offseason.
I kind of remember it being mentioned in training camp
but Buster bulked up a little bit since last season. Hopefully, on the margin, it helps him stay on the field and prevent nagging injuries.
Pretty sure Davis will be more than depth next year.
He’ll be the 4th WR, and my guess is he’ll return punts after Sproles leaves.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Unless, of course, the unthinkable happens and one of the Two Towers walks as an FA.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Jan 3, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think both Jackson AND Floyd will be gone.
Both will stay, or one will leave. Jackson almost certainly will stay.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt either would go
A team would have to give up a 1st and a 3rd. The guy I am worried about actually is Big Mac I really think a team would give up its 1st and 3rd for him. Hopefully he gets a long term deal first.
If one of the twin towers were to go, we wouldnt be in terrible shape though.
Acee has been saying for a while
that McNeill’s contract would be next in line after Rivers got his. Kind of goes hand in hand in a way. Don’t want a 2-bit LT protecting your $100 mil QB.
Yeah
McNeill and Jackson will get real deals instead of one-year RFA deals.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 4, 2010 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
I meant left tackle
I feel like a traitor for putting “2 bit” and LT in the same sentence. Shame on me.
Check Legs stats
He’s really our 4th receiver considering Gates is split wide in 4WR sets; although when Chambers was here they had a couple of guys playing the slot
I understand your line of thinking
but I don’t agree with it. Gates will be playing the same role on the team next year. There are a lot of plays that teams split TEs and RBs out wide, but in my mind that doesn’t make the player a WR.
Zach’s point was that Davis could play a bigger role on the team next season by moving into the 4th WR spot. “Legs” as you refer to him is in the third WR spot this season.
I am thinking that (hopefully) VJ, Floyd and “Legs” will be back next season (as will Gates) so to me if Davis does in fact have a role on next years team, and I am not convinced that he will, it would probably be behind “Legs” as the 4th WR.
Yep
If there’s no new CBA Buster is likely stuck behind Legs, Floyd, and Vjack again. Im not sure his offensive role could expand without an injury to one of the 3 aforementioned. He could return kicks and punts for sure.
I just consider Legs our fourth receiver because the Chargers use a ton of four wide on passing downs, and the far majority has both Gates and Legs in the slot.
So basically nearly everytime Legs comes on the field, Gates is split out with few exceptions.
The Chargers dont use 5WR sets, sometimes they motion to one with a back.
Jets' defense is playing havoc with the Bengals.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:27 PM PST reply actions
Dropped passes are killing them.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
And I'd really hate to face the Jets' rushing offense.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Well
The only way we will see the jets is if they win then beat the bengals in Cinci and the Ravens beat the Patriots or they beat the colts and we beat the patriots.
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I know.
Just sayin’.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
I think only Marty can lose to the Jets, anyway.
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Let's hope.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
I am getting mighty confident in this Bolts team
but I’m not making any crazy declarations…. yet.
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Their Oline looks means
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Yup.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Carson Palmer is 1 of 10 for zero yards.
That’s an “ouch”.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:47 PM PST reply actions
Their first 1st down was a penalty
I dunno what happened after that but they sure as hell didn’t score.
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It's hard to tell if Cincy is really trying.
Their starters are in, but they’re getting run over, and their defense is usually better than this.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:49 PM PST reply actions
24-0 Jets.
Even with 5 minutes left in the first half, I think that’s pretty much game.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:52 PM PST reply actions
I really have a hard time believing the Bengals are doing their best to win.
Barring an upset, we’ll be getting the Pats in a couple weeks.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
I think the Bengals kinda packed this in when they went down. They get a home game at least
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Yea too easy
Maybe they’re trying to lull them into a false sense of confidence for the potential rematch
I think one of Lewis and Zimmer's goals
Was to not show anything important to the Jets, and to get some idea of what New York will throw at them.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 7:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I switched to NFL Network
From the game. I’d rather watch highlights than a bunch of self-congratulating New York fans.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 6:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Funny thing about these playoffs
Wild Card round has 3 repeat games with the only new one being Patriots vs. Baltimore, if only baltimore lost.
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Even that one isn't new.
Ravens played in New England earlier this year.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 7:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Was more talking about repeat games in week 17 and the wild card round
But ya you are right.
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So who else thinks
Ochocinco is a better name than D’Brickashaw?
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I want Dan Patrick to read me bedtime stories.
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Dan or Danica?
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 7:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Go Jets
Who knows for sure, but having Baltimore in as the #6 seed is good for the Chargers. That will be a good game in Boston. If Baltimore escapes, then they get to play Indy, which would be another pretty good game. If NE wins, then fine; They will be a little beat up, and besides, I’ve been looking forward to that one for 3 years.
I'm a bit scared of their pass defense
Though Phil did a pretty good job in Week 2 with a shoddy offensive line.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 7:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Good point
I was mostly thinking that it was one scenario that might let the Chargers host the AFC championship game. Obviously, if they got that far, Baltimore would be no pushover.
Definitely want to host the conference championship.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 7:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I could see a Chargers/Jets conference championship. The Bengals look too injured to beat them, and they’re a matchup nightmare for the Colts.
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Their offense is just real, real bad though.
Their defense is great, but I just see Sanchez tossing up multiple picks and Indianapolis taking advantage.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 4, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
I don't see it happening...
… but it would be an awesome irony if the Jets beat the Bengals and Colts, then lost the Championship here.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 4, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
Another bit from today
The Bears won their last two games to finish at 7-9. Why does that matter, because Denver traded their own 2010 first round pick but own the Bears first rounder in 2010. A couple weeks ago, that looked like it could be a very high pick. Now it looks like it will be 10-12. Still a high pick, but not a premium pick
by DCB on Jan 3, 2010 7:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Two guys who I really feel sorry today for
Wes Welker and Pat White.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 7:20 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I was watching on TV when Pat White got hit
And I saw him drop and my first thought was “Oh my god, he just killed him”. He was motionless for a long time. It was very scary. To the credit of the Steelers players, they immediately started calling for medical attention.
I never cheer for anyone to get hurt. Charger or any other team. I enjoy a big hit like the next guy, but not one that could potentially end a players career or worse.
One thing I think we have all seen enough of is players kneeling on the field in prayer while the medical personnel attend to another player.
by DCB on Jan 3, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
One thing I think we have all seen enough of is players kneeling on the field in prayer while the medical personnel attend to another player.
Yep. That’s how you know it’s bad.
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was at the game
people all stayed until the end, and stayed pretty loud for the B Team. impressive.
one thing. seeing KO in person makes his special teams dominance all the more apparent. that guy is a complete beast. on that last kickoff he knifed through the entire Redskins unit untouched, took on their wedge on his own, and drilled the returner for a great stop.
he is a freak of nature.
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KO made a damn nice catch
on the sidelines that was (correctly) ruled out of bounds. Volek threw high, KO went up for it, got nailed, held on, and kept his feet in play. Too bad his elbow touched down before his right foot.
yeah i saw that
that was a hell of a catch, but from where i was sitting i couldnt get a good view of the scoreboard during the replay to see if it was a catch or not.
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He just missed getting his right foot down.
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the Bungles look so bad in this game
i don’t care if this week doesn’t matter to them, i don’t see how you recover from a thrashing this bad.
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A lot of teams have looked bad heading into the playoffs
Philly, Arizona, New Orleans, even Indy.
I’ve never been a fan of “Oh we can just turn it on next week”. Losing is one thing, but it seems like a lot of these teams can’t even execute a play. I would think that would be concerning.
by DCB on Jan 3, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Which is why Peyton will win the MVP this year
Look at how bad Indy is without him in there throwing the ball and calling the shots.
I agree, but...
Manning wasn’t the only guy sitting.
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If you take Peyton off that team
They are maybe 4-12. They are totally lost without him.
As much as I like Rivers, that is why Peyton has to be MVP. With him, they could have been undefeated. Without him, they are looking at a top 5 pick
by DCB on Jan 3, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
4-12 is an exaggeration. Sorgi is better than Painter.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 3, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Colts MIGHT have lost one or both those games anyway
But we’ll never know….
When Manning left the game against the Jets, they were only up 15-10. Hard to bet against Manning, but the Jets D is good.
Manning and the Colts (obviously) looked horrible in the snow at Buffalo. Even with their 1st team in there, they’re not at all a good bad-weather team.
On the other hand, they might have even won both while pulling Manning (and others) even if Sorgi had played. Painter was just awful.
Wow. The Bengals are getting clobbered.
Even though Sanchez only has a rating of 60.2, completing 50% of his passes for 60+ yards. The Bengals have to be embarrassed, regardless of who’s playing.
Meh.
Team A runs the ball really well.
Team B doesn’t care if they win but really doesn’t want to get hurt.
Outcome: blowout.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 4, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
Just watched the postgme press conference
and as much as I like seeing Philip and LT as usual, I would like to see Billy and Buster get their moment. I am more interested in their impressions.
Jets are in.
And they totally don’t belong. Acting like the two teams they beat were actually trying to win.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 8:26 PM PST reply actions
But stopping the Jets offense is no big secret.
Pile everyone in the box. Stop the run. Make the guy with the low passer rating beat you. Hell, you could probably put all 11 in the box, and just rely on dropped passes.
They belong more than teams like the Steelers and Broncos. Houston has an argument, I guess.
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My point
is just that they beat teams that were better than them who decided not to try and really win the game.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, I agree with that
But, all those other teams should have taken care of business earlier. Denver lost to Oakland and KC. Pittsburgh melted down in the 4th quarter various times. The Texans had that big losing streak in the middle of the season.
You can’t be 9-7 and hope to make the playoffs. You have to go out and make your own destiny
by DCB on Jan 3, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Pittsburgh's a better team than the Jets
Same record, but the Jets easily would’ve lost last week if the Colts didn’t put in Painter…. Jets defense is good, but the Bengals offense isn’t. How the Steelers lost to the Chiefs, Raiders, AND the Browns is a mystery … and RIDICULOUS….. But they did, and so in a way they deserve to be going home…. But I’m not sure the Jets really deserve to be going instead…. The Ravens are 9-7, too, but they lost some really close games to good teams…. I think they’re deserving…. The Texans were rightfully on the bubble….
I'm revising part of my opinion ...
— it’s possible the Jets might have found a way to win against Indy anyway, even if painter hadn’t been in: NY was fighting for its playoff life.
Still think that if the Steelers and Jets played 10 times, Pittsburgh would win at least 6, if not 7 of those games.
I guess we’ll see what the Jets are made of in the playoffs.
Anyone else think Turner should be coach of the year?
Especially since Caldwell and Peyton have lost their luster the last few weeks, seems like a real possibility.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 8:49 PM PST reply actions
I figured with the late winning streak that Eric Mangini would be a lock for Coach of the Year, narrowly beating out Jim Zorn
by DCB on Jan 3, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously...
I think Coach Turner deserves strong consideration. Considering the Chargers lost arguably their most important defensive player in the first game, not to mention all the other injuries. And, most people considered this team dead in the water at 2-3. To come back and be 13-3, to win at New York, at Dallas, at Denver (when Denver was still considered a contender) to beat Philly and Cincy, it is a very strong case.
Who else will get consideration this year? McCarthy in Green Bay perhaps, Marvin Lewis in Cincy, Payton in New Orleans. But since no one pulled a “worst to first”, it could be Norv’s year
by DCB on Jan 3, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
Sean Peyton pulled a worst to first
When you play the Rams Lions and Redskins this year or next year you know you have a 4th place schedule.
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Worst to First, maybe...
… but the same record change.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 4, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
For what it's worth
In the pre-game show this morning on Fox, Terry Bradshaw gave out his “Terry Awards” and gave Turner the AFC Coach of the Year award.
I think I heard that.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Personally, I'd be scared of facing the Jets
Considering they seem most capable of stopping the Phillip Rivers show, and they can run the ball down the Charger’s throats. In the playoffs, they scare me more then any of the other contenders, except the Colts.
since thier the last seed
they would have to beat 2 other teams before they would face us in san diego, thats the only way we would play them
Actually they're the 5th seed.
So if the Jets and Ravens both win, we’d play the Jets in our first game.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
Oh hmm so the Bungles are the 4th seed then I guess
what about if the pats win and the jets win, then we would play the pats right? and the jets would go to indy.
Yes.
Colts play lowest remaining seed. Chargers play the highest remaining seed.
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by Zach (maestro876) on Jan 3, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
If you get ahead of the Jets though
Sanchez has to throw the ball, and he can be an interception machine. So they line up Revis on Jackson. You can still attack them downfield with Gates, Floyd and Nanee.
Be careful about judging the Jets by how they looked tonight. They are a 7-7 team that then had two teams lay down against them. As Bill Parcells said “You are what you are”.
by DCB on Jan 3, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
teams with strong defenses and strong rushing attacks play well in January
the Jets are that. not saying we can’t beat them, i just wouldn’t want to play them right now.
i can see a feasible path that has them winning a game against us, something i can’t really see from a New England, for example.
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Getting ahead of them is no easy task
Hence the “Number 1 defense in the NFL” and all
There is no secondary that can handle the Chargers
I don’t care how good they are, it’s just not plausibly feasible. The PR Machine has just rolled right on over many of the best secondaries in the League. The only ways to beat the Chargers are 1) get lucky in a freak game, or 2) score vast gobs of points.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 4, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
3 playoff rematchs of todays game
thats kinda strange the way that ended up, I cant imagine that has happened before. I’ll be interesting to see the teams go at each other a second time
Great Chargers scub game!!!!!!!!!!!
Did not see the game but, B Davis and, Volik had a good game. Swept the NFC East. I fear no one now.
Go Bolts……………………
by iliketowinallthetime on Jan 3, 2010 10:05 PM PST reply actions
Okay did anyone....?
Did anyone else think Mike Tolbert dance looked a lot like Homer SImpson dancing…very nice rendition
I saw it. It was funny.
Tolbert is built like a bowling ball, so I always get a kick out of him making fleet moves on would-be tacklers (or in this case, dancing in the end zone). He reminds me of Natrone Means in that way. Not so much the running style, but the build, and the deft cuts (for a big guy).
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