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by Richard Wade on Jan 21, 2010 3:00 AM PST
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28. San Diego Chargers Jonathan Dwyer*, RB, Georgia Tech With the possible departure of LaDainian Tomlinson on the horizon, Dwyer represents the player who can handle 20-plus carries in an offense that already has a great speed back in Darren Sproles. Dwyer has ideal size and shows explosiveness.
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I’m good with Dwyer as a runner, but I wonder if his shockingly-low number of catches is due to bad hands or a system that never throws to the RB.
He’s never had more than 8 catches in a season. Until the last two games of the 2009 season (including the Orange Bowl), he had 1 catch all year.
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Agreed. I was thinking Dwyer too.
He’ll learn to catch in Norv’s system if we get him. If he doesn’t, he’ll be looking for work elsewhere.
by riversformvp on Jan 21, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions
There’s no running back worth a first round pick in this draft
by Bluelightning on Jan 21, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
I'd say CJ Spiller is.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 21, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Based on the grades I've seen
Spiller is the best RB prospect coming out we’ve seen in the last couple years. Higher than Moreno or Wells. Same grade as Jonathan Stewart from 2 years ago. Higher than Felix Jones, Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Matt Forte and Kevin Smith from 2 years ago.
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I'd be ecstatic to pick up Spiller in the 1st round.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 21, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
On top of which
He is a super high character guy. He won’t be kicking challenge flags, driving with suspended licenses, getting arrested with reality stars, throwing champagne bottles, driving under the influence or assaulting police officers.
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I’m sure they have Jahvid Best rated fairly high too. Anytime you can’t run between the tackles you have a Reggie Bush type 3rd-down back. This type of back will not generate consistent postive yardage behind our OL. Sproles is faster, shiftier, and has better leg drive than CJ Spiller. Sproles routinely gets swallowed up at the LOS or the backfield. I don’t think Spiller will be enough of an improvement over Sproles to warrant a 1st. DL and OL on the otherhand, warrant a strong investment IMO.
by Bluelightning on Jan 21, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Who says Spiller can't run between the tackles?
I’ve seen him get huge gains running between the tackles. He would fit a zone blocking scheme better than a man blocking scheme though.
Best is not ranked nearly as high.
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by Wonko on Jan 21, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Offensive Line?
How many pro-bowlers do you want?? OL is one of the LAST positions we need to fill.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 21, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We could upgrade at RT
Runyan’s gone, right? So it’s Clary/Dombrowski. Could be worse, but a little competition might not be a bad idea.
But I think that both Spiller and Best are too small to invest a first-rounder in: too much can go wrong with a little guy to drop such a valuable pick. I wouldn’t be terribly worried about it if there are no NTs on the board and there isn’t an obvious difference-maker LB, SS or RT available. But I’d rather see them go in the second round, either for a big guy like Gerhardt or Dixon, or at least a 200+-pounder like Hardesty.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 22, 2010 7:30 AM PST up reply actions
Spiller will put on weight now that he's no longer running track
I saw a highlight reel of Hardesty. He looked a lot faster than the guy I saw at the end of the season. I know he was banged up. He’ll be in the Senior Bowl, so we’ll see how he does there. Anyone want to invite me over to watch it since I don’t get NFL Network with Time Warner?
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Is it normal
To try and impose on people in order to be able to watch a college football all star game? I was not aware.
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Apparently.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 22, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Defense
Should be our priority. We could get something like a Shonne Greene like the Jets did last year in the 3rd round (or Later for the chargers). Chargers can score, Chargers are a passing team, RB is a secondary priority in the short term.
Greene was kind of an anomonly.
He should have gone much higher. If Spiller is there (very unlikely) chances are that no defender would be a better pick at that point. So, you should either pick him or trade the pick to someone who does.
As others have mentioned Dixon would be a Greene-like 3rd round pick. However, Chargers don’t have a high 3rd round pick like the Jets did last year.
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why was greene an anomoly?
seems like some 2nd day RB always ends up coming up big.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Jan 21, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Now, that's not what I said
I said, he should have gone higher. I wouldn’t expect a back of his caliber to fall to the 3rd round. And I say that not taking his 2009 performance into consideration.
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he was projected between rounds 2-4
so three sounds about right. I was just reading his draft profile and it has this nugget:
Lacks the speed to consistently get to the outside or to be a true breakaway threat
I have a vague recollection that he may have had a big break-away run recently. stupid chargers
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Jan 21, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Don't have stats on draft history,
but there are 32 picks per round, 22 reg-teams positions, and RB is in the lower-middle of positional value. So on average, if we pick a RB in the second round we will probably be grabbing the third or fourth RB off the board. Spiller will be gone, and it’s just luck (or something) if Best or Dwyer can be had. But there’s a big group of decent-looking RBs right behind that trio. It’s not unlikely that the Bolts, if they’re looking for one guy in that crowd, can grab him in the second or even the third, and be fairly confident he will still be there.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 22, 2010 7:42 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think you can look at it as an average
Each running back draft class is different.
In this draft there are 3 Running backs with grades in line with 1st round selections (Spiller, Best, Dwyer) and 2 with 2nd round grades (Matthews and McKnight). Hardesty and Gerhart are probably straddling that line as 2nd and 3rd round picks. If those grades hold up through the combine, you’re looking at the 5th or 6th best RB being available at the end of the 2nd round.
I will also point out that ~43% of league wide starting RBs come from the 1st round. ~15% from the second, ~18% from the 3rd and ~12% from the fourth. It seems to me that with those numbers, your chances of finding a quality starting caliber running are much better if you draft a first round caliber back. Source
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At this point I think the bolts need to draft a CB
and get a big power back like Dixon in the 2nd or 3rd round.
I should fire you for that comment.
Jammer has at least one good year left, Cromartie is one of the league’s better cover-corners and Cason is a viable starter on the outside.
If they draft another corner, it’ll be somebody to take Gregory’s spot in the nickel….which means it won’t be anything higher than a 3rd rounder.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
No it will be someone who is not afraid to hit a RB
and they will move Cro to the Nickel and hopefully let him walk at the end of next year.
I agree with Mr. Suit
I think a CB might be in the cards in the first round… Its been almost two years since we have drafted a CB in the First round!!!! Of course, this was how I felt a few weeks ago when I still believed that all we needed to do to win was pass well and stop the pass… I haven’t gotten around to rethinking my philosophy in light of the unfortunate event.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Jan 21, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Cro would be the worst nickel corner ever. Completely unsuited for it.
It’s rare that a team gives up on a young CB that has been so good in coverage. He’s not Deion yet, but he still has that ceiling still.
Also, your scenario has them benching Cason for good. Don’t forget that he’s a 1st round draft pick and has played well in spurts (I think he’s just ill-suited to the nickel, like Cro). I think what’s more likely is the team moving Jammer. Either to Safety, nickel corner (which he could play very well) or simply off the team. Cro and Cason would look an awful low like Hall and Joseph in Cincy.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Acee seems to think so
His last offseason breakdown had them trying to trade Cro and moving Cason to the starting role.
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That was also after a terrible year by Antonio. Things are different this time around.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Huh?
This time around? He wrote that yesterday.
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Oh
I thought you meant his breakdown during last offseason.
I guess it makes sense. At this point they’re essentially the same player, although Cro’s cover skills are a little better and Cason’s tackling is a little better. It makes no sense to try to shoehorn one of them into the nickel spot, and it makes no sense to trade the guy who is younger/cheaper.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
A little better of a tackler?
One can tackle the other closes his eyes lowers his head and sticks out his arms and prays someone gets to the ball carier first.
He was the starter
From like week 6 on and got almost all of his INTs as the starter (or at least not as the nickel).
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Pro-Football reference has him starting 8 games in 2007
He made 3 interceptions in the first 8 games.
Right
the other 7-8 interceptions came when he started the second half of the season.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Still doesn't mean those 3 INTs came at the nickel position
They would swap him in and out with Florence.
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I chalked most of his picks up to a decent pass rush back then
It’s also why the DBs had very few this year. It seemed like the LBs were getting their hands on a lot more balls than DBs this year.
by riversformvp on Jan 21, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
His skillset is not suited for playing the nickel.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 21, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
I've heard that before
but I’m not sure why that would be. He would have to play off his receiver and couldn’t get his hands on him, but that isn’t really Cromartie’s game. The nickel is more in the middle of the field than a CB, but its still covering a receiver. It probably involves a little more tackling and we all know how Cro feels about that, but otherwise I don’t understand why he is suited for playing the nickel.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Jan 21, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
The way the Chargers (Gregory) play nickel
They don’t play off the receiver. They jam him at the line and then at times use him as a blitzer and a run defender. Cro is more suited for the Chargers CB2 position where you play off coverage, don’t jam at the line and make sure you don’t get beat deep.
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by Wonko on Jan 21, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That about covers it.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 21, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Neither
I doubt both will be here in 3 to 5 years when Jammer needs to go to safety.
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Jammer and Cro will be the starting corners next season. Wouldn’t surprise me to see them try Cason at nickel again.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
For me, Ellison could be moved to ILB without much problem. All he did this season was provide good defense against the run and played excellent man-coverage against TEs. His zone coverage was average at best, and he certainly doesn’t have the speed to recover if he’s beat deep.
Wonko’s right though. Jammer’s not moving until he has a down year.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Ellison has the speed to play safety.
The only evidence to the contrary is his 40 time he ran when he was coming off of injury. He is way too small to play ILB as anything other than a backup.
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I’d love to see his backpedal timed and compared to other safeties.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
It is only one play
but I would like to enter into evidence the play at KC where he tried to cover Jamal Charles man to man on a fly route. The pass was poorly thrown, but Charles had him by ten yards or more.
Ellison played much better than I thought he would this season, and he was a rookie so there is reason for hope. I still have my doubts as to his ability in coverage, time will tell.
He’s roughly the same size as Donnie Edwards
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Actually
On passing downs, or against passing teams, I think Ellison at ILB is an idea worth looking into.
I don't think he'd be better than what we already have at the position.
That would be my concern.
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I agree
It was just an idea. If you force me to choose, however, I’d take Jammer/Weddle as Safeties over Weddle/Ellison.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
I think we need to drug test John.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 21, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
More than you know buddy.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 21, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
u need
a RB and a big DT
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Same here
But he would be a back in the Michael Turner mold.
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Turner left cause he didn’t fit the system, essentially.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't stop the fanbase
From wanting another back just like him.
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We should also trade Rivers for Brees and sign Merriman to a 10 year contract.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
and switch to the 4-3
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
You joke, but...
… in many ways, the 4-3 seems more optimal for this team. It’s Rivera’s strengh as a DC. No guarantee that Jamal comes back or stays healthy. D-line by committee seemed to work, so why not have three of them on the field at once? It also allows you to bid adieu to Merriman, and not have to rely so much on an edge-rushing LB, of which the team has none. And I’d hate to see AJ make a fool of himself again by overreaching for an LB that only a third of us have heard of.
by Andy (allfield) on Jan 21, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Are you serious?
The 4-3 is more reliant on top pass rushers than the 3-4. There is nobody on the Chargers that could fill the critical positions of 4-3 DE. Not to mention nobody that has the athletic and physical capabilities to play 4-3 MLB and nobody with the coverage and run support prowess to play 4-3 WOLB. It’s a really, really terrible idea.
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by Wonko on Jan 21, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
^This.
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by Richard Wade on Jan 21, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, I’ll hold off on my letter to AJ threatening self-immolation unless he switches to a 4-3. But I will say that the inability to rush the passer — in either scheme — is perhaps a greater indication of the team’s top priority above all else.
by Andy (allfield) on Jan 21, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
The primary reason this team had any struggles on defense was their lack of a pass rush. If the team had that, they could have overcome almost all of their mistakes against the Jets and some of their other games this year wouldn’t have been so close. No way the Eagles make it an 8 point game if Donovan was under pressure in the second half. I’m also going to assume that the Colts won’t regress too much next year and getting to Manning is priority numero uno for dethroning the Colts and for beating the other tough teams on the schedule next year (Patriots and Cardinals come to mind).
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by Wonko on Jan 21, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The problem
is that we lack the personnel for a 3-4 or a 4-3. No, we should not switch: our supporting cast is what it is. But unless Merriman gets back into ‘06/’07 form and Williams comes back, we need to get very lucky in the draft or we will continue to struggle on defense. If Merriman and Williams both come back, then we will still need to answer the issue in this year’s draft, because Williams is my age [flexes knee for emphasis, producing loud crack] and for some reason AJ thinks Merriman is the problem and he won’t be here in ’11.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 22, 2010 7:55 AM PST up reply actions
For this comment
I second John’s motion to fire you.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 21, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think that it was that clean cut
and if they had it to do over again I think that they would have kept Turner.
Also Dixon is considered to be a good receiver out of the backfield.
Yes, Turner was the better option over a fading LT. However, give them the choice of 07 LT (who was good, but not great) versus 07 Turner (who showed flashes of being great) and they’ll pick LT every time because he’s a threat to catch the ball out of the backfield.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
I am not saying that
there choice, at the time, was the wrong one (or a bad one). At the time it is the choice that most people would have made. I just don’t think they said to themselves “Turner doesn’t fit the system so he is gone”. They were able to use Turner very effectively, in the system, while he was here.
As far as keeping LT because he’s a threat to catch the ball out of the backfield. I feel very comfortable that a back like Dixon could have equaled LT’s reception total this season (to be honest almost any back could have).
I was talking about Dwyer
I have no thoughts on Dixon. I don’t have complete scouting reports and I’ve never seen him play.
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Dixon
I like the strengths, but the weaknesses have me concerned. I’m okay with the lack of top end speed (although I’d be curious about his 40 time, since it doesn’t have to be too fast to get a good speed score), but it’s that other stuff that worries me. Link
Strengths:
Terrific size and bulk-Strong and powerful-Nice balance-Quick with a burst-Shows some wiggle in the hole-Can handle a heavy workload-Adequate pass catcher-Effective blocker-Tough and will play through pain-Productive-Has a lot of quality experience.
Weaknesses:
Just average speed-Not overly elusive-Doesn’t change directions well-Runs too high-Is not a big play threat-Will have trouble turning the corner-Durability ?-Has struggled with weight and conditioning-Questionable work ethic-Some off-the-field concerns.
Notes:
A four-year starter for the Bulldogs-Named 1st Team All-SEC in 2009 and led the conference in rushing-Mississippi State’s all-time leading rusher-Also holds the school records for attempts and rushing touchdowns-Slowed by a groin injury as a junior but didn’t miss any action-Was suspended for the 2009 season opener following a summer D.U.I. arrest-Has the necessary talent to compete for a starting job at the next level but shaky intangibles could hold him back.
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mel kiper...
drives me insane…i have learned to despise him more and more each off-season…not sure what it is either…how wrong he is, the hair, the arrogance?…they should just let craig sager have his job this year and see how that goes…he’d probably be just as accurate and a lot less douchey
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by notorioushbi on Jan 21, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Congrats!
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kiper usually has some good insight
If you take all the insights from Kiper, McShay and Maycock and get a feel for where each of their draft strengths are, you can usually get a really good picture of the draft. I’ve been following him for at least 13 years and it’s made me a smarter draftnik.
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Bringing in McShay has made Kiper a lot better. The hair can go though.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know if it's made Kiper better
But it’s made ESPN’s coverage better.
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I love the debates they have about players
Like the one I posted a few days ago on Bradford and Clausen. Or last year with Moreno vs Wells. Neither of them ever give in. It’s almost like you’re getting a sneak peak at two scouts in the NFL draft war room. It makes you realize that the scouting process is not so simple and the decision making process about picks can be real tough.
I do like that when Mel does his mocks, he gets insight into what the team is thinking as opposed to other mocks where the writer pretends to be thinking like the GM when the GM could be thinking something completely different.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Yeah but I never trust that
GM’s will never tell the media what they are really thinking, its all a smoke screen.
They won't tell you directly
But, for example, some people knew about how the Chiefs liked Tyson Jackson even though most didn’t grade him high enough to go there. There were plenty that speculated that the Raiders wanted a speedy WR with their #1 so people projected them as picking Maclin since he was the speedier of the guys that could conceivably be drafted that high, but some had info that the Raiders liked DHB better. It is a lot of smokescreen, but there is info to be gathered.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
you could do that job and be good wonks.
do it give kiper a run for his money…or do it for BFTB it’s time for you to join the staff.
I dont like Kiper all that much either.
He looks way too much like John C Calhoun. Scary
Kenjon Barner in a DNA helmet. 'Nuff said.
Not after he runs a 4.2.
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by John Gennaro on Jan 21, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
That would be awesome!
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 22, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
does anyone know....
Exactly how does unrestricted FA work? I know the chargers can assign compensation requirements to their UFAs, but (I assume there must be) is there also then a corresponding pay the players are entitled according to the level of compensation?
I.E. if the chargers assign a 1st and 3rd to VJ and only a 1st to Floyd, and neither is signed is VJ entitled to a higher minimum salary than Floyd? (understanding the chargers can always exceed the minimums)
Also, If the chargers do not assign any compensation to a UFA, do they at least retain the option to match any offers the player receives and retain him?
The draft pick compensation value assigned to a restricted FA is based upon the amount of money the RFA was offered by his former team
here are the tender amounts from 2009
Low tender – right of first refusal & original draft pick – $1.01 million
Middle tender – right of first refusal & 2nd round pick – $1.545 million (Compensation is a 2nd round pick if original club chooses not to match any offer sheet)
High tender – right of first refusal & 1st round pick – $2.198 million
Highest tender – right of first refusal & 1st and 3rd round picks – $2.792 million
I have an idea for a set of posts
Should there be a job approval rating for each of 22 starters plus the punter and kicker? A simple yes/no from all the visitors here about whether they approve of the player’s performance this year? It might be useful to bring those numbers back up when we are looking at draft stuff in a few months. That way, you’ll have the raw numbers, the staff will probably come up with some sort of grades at some point for each player (I think that was done last year in the offseason), and you’ll have simple fan vote. Just a thought. It’s too bad you can’t just get it all done in one post, but I think you can only have one poll per post.
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by Wonko on Jan 21, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
i like this.
grades for each player.
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The UT will do this
I’d prefer not to give the masses that kind of granularity because you end up with too big of an array of answers. I’d like to see the approval ratings and try to see if the approval percentage makes sense as grades. (67% approve, that player gets a D, something like that, maybe grade on a curve or something or make it 0-20: F, 21-40: D, 41-60: C, 61-80 B, 81-100 A).
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Give 'em three choices.
You know, plus, check, minus, as opposed to pass/fail.
I agree, letter grades are too subjective. But you should have a way to differentiate excellence from non-failure.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 22, 2010 8:05 AM PST up reply actions
The problem is
What if the vote comes out 33% for each? It becomes harder to represent the overall opinion of a player if you have to represent him with 3 numbers instead of 1. I’m not trying for hardcore accuracy, just a ballpark.
I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.
Opinion polling
tends to include an “undecided” for a reason. Frequently, if you watch issue polling for issues that aren’t front-burner but generally have two sides, you see a lot of for/against scores of 35/25 or whatever, meaning a plurality of respondents did not express an opinion. Sure, some of them just acknowledged that they were uninformed, but others clearly chose the “neutral” option.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 22, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions
Undecideds can choose not to participate in our poll.
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Jan 22, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
But you could easily just contrast favorable/unfavorable numbers. Of course, others may take those same stats and compare unfavorable to favorable and neutral combined, for an unpopular player. I don’t think that would happen with this crowd, as the biggest chokers last week bring some very obvious assets.
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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jan 22, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Good idea.
Bolts from the Blue // "He looks like a catfish" - Nick Hardwick on Brandon Siler
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Jan 21, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Jamarcus Russell?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 21, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
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