Who to Watch in Tomorrow's 49ers @ Chargers Preseason Game
Tomorrow night's match-up between the San Francisco 49ers and the San Diego Chargers is fairly unimportant to the fans. The blackout is not surprising and, unlike the Seattle game, I think a lot of people will simply wait for the replay to rather than trying to (illegally!) stream the game online.
However, there are certain Chargers players that look at tomorrow's game with great importance. Here's a run-down of those guys:
- Louis Vasquez - Big Lou has gotten the nod and will start at RG against the 49ers. There's two reasons that this is very important. The first is that it means, even if Forney were to be healthy enough to practice today, Vasquez is practicing with the first-team offensive line. The more he can do that, the more he can learn and build chemistry with Hardwick and Clary. The second reason is that this is the first time he will get to go up against an NFL 3-4 defense. Considering more than 10 of the Bolts' 16 regular season games are against teams that run a 3-4 defense, it's important the he get an idea of what it's like to go up against it. A good performance against SF locks up the starting RG spot for him.
- Larry English - He looked good against Atlanta, although he wasn't asked to do anything but pass-rush. I think the Chargers will pull their first-team defense before SF pulls their first-team offense (because they need work), which should result in English getting a good chunk of plays against a real NFL offense after a full week of work. Last week I saw a lot of bull-rushing and going to the outside, I'm curious to see if he has an inside move that he likes. As with many "backup" players that will get time on the field int he regular season, a stand-out performance from him will keep him in Coach Rivera's mind when the gameplan in being drawn-up for Week 1.
- Kevin Ellison - I know a lot of people aren't going to agree with this, but I think Ellison could be on the 53-man bubble. With the injuries to the defensive line, and some concern about whether there's room for Michael Bennett (the most logical starter if LT were injured), I have a hard time thinking that the Chargers are okay with keeping 5 safeties. Ellison has shown no ability to cover the pass (0 Interceptions, 0 passes defended) and has lined up inside the box more than outside of it. As a 6th round pick, he was a bit of a gamble, and I think the team no longer sees him as their future starting SS. With roughly the same size as Stephen Cooper, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to try to get him on the practice squad and move him to ILB. He could change my mind if he shows up against SF (he should get plenty of time on the field) and plays the pass well.
- Michael Bennett - Honestly, I don't know what else the guy could do. I know it's hard to keep 4 running backs, but I think it's necessary. LT is an injury risk, Gartrell isn't ready (as a runner or a receiver) and Sproles does other things (returns). If LT got injured, either the offense would take a step back with Gartrell taking over or the return game would take a step back because Sproles wouldn't be able to do both. I think Bennett should make the 53 man roster, but word from the team is that he'll most likely be cut. Another big performance from him and the team would look even more foolish for cutting him.
- Simeon Castille - Castille is in a good position. He'll get a lot of time against SF because the team wants to see everything he can do. If he plays well, the team probably keeps him. If he doesn't, he'll most likely be cut and the Chargers will scour the rest of the NFL's trash to find a good 4th DB. This is one of those games that could determine an entire career.
- Charly Martin - Sorry Charly fans, but "the next Wes Welker" will not be making this team. A team that rarely ever has more than 2 wide receivers on the field has no reason to carry 7 of them. They'll carry just 6 (with Osgood only working as a special teamer). Even if somebody gets injured, I think they'd prefer carrying 5 and using the spot somewhere else. However, Charly will probably see plenty of time on the field in the second half of this game and should consider it a "try-out" for other teams that are not as deep at WR.
- Vaughn Martin - He's been just as advertised. A beast at times, but an inconsistent one. Everyone is hoping that more time in the NFL and in the Chargers defense will help him develop more consistency. If he can show enough progress and push people around on Friday night, he'll be a part of the defensive rotation. If he can't do that, he'll be a third-stringer and a project that will be inactive and ride the pine in 2009.
- Antwan Applewhite / Jyles Tucker - Are they competing with each other for a roster spot? It's possible. I like Applewhite better because he's cheaper, can do more things (Tucker is basically a pass-rusher only) and plays better on special teams. However, Tucker is almost too expensive to cut. The team would take a cap hit of his contract, so it makes more sense to just get what value they can out of him in 2009. They'll each get playing time tomorrow and the team will definitely be comparing them, even without plans to cut either, to see who should be the 4th OLB.
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Wait
The 49ers have a NFL offense?
Us out-of-towners will be watching on NFL Network I assume.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on our souls.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 3, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not so fast
The game is not on NFL Network until 2:30am EST, or the same time as San Diego gets the replay of it.
I’m considering DVRing it and watching it on Saturday morning in HD rather than trying to go some other way.
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by John (obviousman) on Sep 3, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's some BS!
So I guess we can stayup with the locals if we prefer.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 3, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a DVR
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 3, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then
tape it on the VHS player that you undoubtedly have.
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by John (obviousman) on Sep 3, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Just a regular HD box
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 3, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like it isn't on NFL network at all
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 4, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like they changed it to Raiders/Seahawks. They moved the Chargers game to 2:30am on Sunday.
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by John (obviousman) on Sep 4, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dicks
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 4, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when is the roster due?
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by ChargersWitch on Sep 3, 2009 10:22 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Saturday afternoon, I believe.
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by Wonko on Sep 3, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saturday?
Doesn’t that give the rest of the league an extra day to review our cut decisions? The rest of the league presumably get Sunday. I don’t like that too much.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 3, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Everybody has to make their cuts on Saturday.
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by John (obviousman) on Sep 3, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm also keeping my eye on the newest Charger
It’s not a make or break game for him, but I curious how he goes about his business on his new team.
Also, Buster Davis will probably be getting his last chance to impress anyone before next preseason, so unless he pulls a hammy in practice, I’ll be curious if he looks any better than the WRs we are about to cut.
Nwagbuo is also still on the radar. It’s a good opportunity to see him again before he goes the practice squad (unless some other team grabs him). He could be the first PS called up if injuries keep mounting, so he’s definitely one to keep track of.
And I don’t think you can let Gartrell skate just yet. He may not be in jeopardy of getting cut, but preseason performance may help determine whether the Chargers use a top draft pick next year on a RB or just pick up a vet or a late rounder to fill out the depth chart. Plus, it’s easy to watch RBs.
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by Wonko on Sep 3, 2009 10:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and Spillman
Some have him as making the roster (I don’t), but I do think he could play for a second division team, especially on special teams. He won’t be a Charger, but you may be watching a guy who becomes an NFL contributor this year and a starter in couple more.
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by Wonko on Sep 3, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Travis Johnson isn’t playing. Norv said it wouldn’t be fair since he doesn’t know the playbook and hasn’t played in 3-4 in a while.
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by John (obviousman) on Sep 3, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who to watch?
I’ll be watching tomorrow night (well Saturday morning). But I am not expecting much. In the first half I expect to see a bunch of guys going half speed to avoid getting any bumps and nicks. In the second half I expect to see individuals trying to create material for their personal highlight reels. I don’t expect any of it to have much influence on the Turk.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 3, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
illegally streaming games
Is it really illegal to figure out how to watch a blacked out game? There are no actual laws that prevent me from watching a football game that is blacked out locally. (unlike, say, buying fireworks in a county that allows them and brinking them into a county that doesn’t, that’s illegal). For instance, if I had some super duper antenna that let me pick up the broadcast from palm spings or SB while I am in san diego, am I in violation of some law? No.
Is it illegal for someone to broadcast out the game on slingbox? If it were, I think slingboxes and the like would be illegal because 99% of the stuff they sling is copyrighted material (pretty much anything on TV)
I think it is up to the NFL to keep me from seeing their product, and if they fail, then that is on them. If I want a brand new Packer Jets Vikings Favre jersey, but they don’t sell them in stores in San Diego. Is it illegal for me to drive to Minnesotta and buy one and bring it back? What if the NFL really didn’t want anyone in San Diego to own a Favre jersey? Would it be illegal for me to go somewhere else and buy it and bring it back? No, it’s entirely on the NFL to keep me from doing it. And if I can do it, there is no law that I am in violation of, just the NFL’s wishes.
So, John, when are you getting that slingbox?
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 3, 2009 12:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don’t know that me getting one is entirely necessary. It seems every game is streamed online somewhere by someone, Chargers fan or not.
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by John (obviousman) on Sep 3, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
illegal stream lover
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on our souls.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 3, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good site to find all the games
Every NFL game and a ton of college games can be found live at
http://howtowatchfootball.com/
Some of the feeds are high quality, some of the feeds are crap. But if you are stuck somewhere and there is a game that you need to see I think that this is your best bet.
by JeromeB on Sep 3, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL broadcasts are copyrighted
You are not allowed to broadcast them without the express written consent of the NFL. So, it is still very much illegal.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Sep 3, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
does the NFL know about slingbox?
or youtube?
those guys are going to be in big trouble once Godell learns about them… I see big time disciplinary suspensions.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 3, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't seem that NFL minds as much as the Networks do
I know Fox has reached an agreement with Justin.TV that they will not sue Justin.TV as long as they are making a good faith effort to keep copyrighted broadcasts off of their site. I read that they are already enforcing this for saved video the same way that youtube does it, which apparently has had a lot of success. But, keeping the live streams off the interweb waves is a tougher. I saw a website that says they’ll have a method by this fall.
I don’t know what makes slingbox different than justin.tv or ustream, though, so I’m not sure what they’ll do about that. The funny thing is, these broadcasts are going out with commercials so they really aren’t any different than getting invited over to your neighbor’s house to watch a game. So, I think the networks’ main motivation is that they want to charge their advertisers based on every viewer watching their programming, or in the case of cable channels, charge the cable service providers subscription fees based of off viewers. When people “off the grid” start watching stuff, they can’t track it and therefore can’t justify increasing their prices for these “extra” viewers.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Sep 3, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sling box is kind of like remote PC I think
I think it runs stand alone connected to your TV/DRV and the internet. And you can basically watch your own TV from any internet connection.
I’m not sure the networks or the NFL could know if you are sling boxing a game to yourself from outside to back into the blackout area. I guess the trick is to find a TV set outside the black out area to sling box from. I thought about buying one, but haven’t.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 3, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Total agreement: Bennett will light it up in the playoffs if we need him.
What special teams contributor is more valuable than that?
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 3, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ho hum
The cuts are pretty much in at this point. One of the questions to be answered is will it be Forney or Vasquez at starting RG? Beyond that, barring injury, there isn’t much more to be determined.
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by Buck Melanoma on Sep 4, 2009 3:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's Vasquez
Forney had injury worries to begin with and hasn’t even been able to make it through training camp without a neck injury (a bad injury for an o-lineman because it takes away strength). All they wanted to see was something good from Vasquez to justify picking him and they got it in Atlanta. At this point, as long as Vasquez doesn’t let somebody through that cripples Rivers, the job is his.
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by John (obviousman) on Sep 4, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turner is saying that he'll keep the competition going into the season.
So it’s entirely possible that Vasquez could start at Oakland, and get switched out the following week, and then put back in until they clearly have someone who is better.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Sep 4, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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