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Bolts & Dolts: Miami Dolphins at San Diego Chargers

So my father, who sounded as sick as I was last week, called me up towards the end of Miami Dolphins' first drive to let me know that the sky was falling.  Again an opposing team was showing how easy it was to run on the San Diego Chargers' defense.  Again it looked as though the Chargers were not getting much of a pass-rush. 

I said the same thing to him that I roughly outlined in my game preview, that once the Chargers started to score the Dolphins would be forced to abandon the run and the game would be easily won.  I didn't know that the Chargers wouldn't score a touchdown until late in the third quarter, but I believed that eventually Miami would not be able to keep up with the Bolts' offense.

The Chargers deserved to win yesterday's game.  In making up my Bolts & Dolts list, I found plenty of Bolts and not a lot of Dolts.  I think the team played about as well as it could have considering their current health situation.  However, even if Pittsburgh is without Troy Polamalu next week, there are a few players and coaching strategies that need to be improved if the Chargers want to beat a stronger opponent.

More details on all of the above after the jump.

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Bolts

Offense

Philip Rivers - 18/33, 303 passing yards, 5 rushing yards, 1 rushing TD.  The rushing touchdown I saw live.  Right before the play happened I said out loud "The defense is not respecting the run at all.  Philip should just run it in."  Next week, when the Chargers are inside the Steelers 10 yard line, the defense will at least have to keep somebody in the area to watch for a run by either a RB or Rivers.  It will clear a little bit of space in the coverage.  It will help things.  That was not just a momentary success and six points, that was a big play that should help future red zone conversions.

By the way, does anybody throw a better deep ball than Philip?  His passes to Malcom Floyd and Vincent Jackson were right on the money every time but one (he overthrew VJ because of pressure).  What was once considered a weakness is now one of Rivers' greatest strengths.  If the offensive line can keep him from getting killed the rest of the season, he'll be in the MVP running.

Vincent Jackson - 5 catches, 120 yards.  This game made me flip-flop on VJ.  Did I think he was great?  Absolutely, but I thought of the potential 2010 free agents for the Chargers he was one of the expendable ones.  No way.  Not a chance.  The entire offense, which used to revolve around Antonio Gates and LaDainian Tomlinson, now revolves around Vincent Jackson.  Unless he's being double-covered and going up against at least one All-Pro Cornerback, you can pencil him in for a dominating game.  The Dolphins shied away from putting the rookie Sean Smith on him, so instead he made Will Allen look foolish and slow all game.  I think VJ has progressed to the point where he's every bit as good as Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Greg Jennings and other top WRs around the league.  His football smarts have caught up with his freakish physical tools and he cannot be stopped.

Antonio Gates - 5 catches, 64 yards.  Do those numbers blow me away?  Not at all.  Was it a dominating performance like VJ's was?  Nope.  However, the one thing that bothered me about Antonio's 2008 season was that Rivers lost his favorite third down target.  Well, that has not been the case this season.  Third and long, third and short, whatever the yardage is the ball is probably going to Gates and he's probably going to get the first down.  Even when he caught the ball a yard and a half shy of the first down marker, he somehow knew where the first down was and dragged three Dolphins players the two yards to get it.  That's what he's best at and that's what the Chargers need from him.

Malcom Floyd - 2 catches, 65 yards.  After seeing both Floyd catches from last night, my wife turned to me and said "Why don't they throw to him more?  He's great!"  This will be a theme revisited later, by the way.  My answer to her was that Malcom has a difficult time staying healthy.  Just as I said that, the cameras show Floyd being checked on by the trainers on the sidelines.  Oh boy.  Malcom has the talent to be every bit as dangerous as Jackson, he just has to stay healthy.  Although no injuries were reported after the game, I'll be keeping an eye on the practice participation reports this week for his name.  I think he is somebody who was sorely missed in the playoff game last season and I would much rather go into Pittsburgh with lots of mismatches outside the numbers.

Legedu Naanee - 4 catches, 40 yards.  He certainly learned from his mistake.  Every time he got his sticky hands on the ball he would take off upfield.  No more dancing around and possibly losing the game for him.  I liked the screen passes to him too, as I think he may be the quickest receiver on the team and he has top-end speed if he finds some space as well.  This was another one of those games that the coaches will look at and will say to themselves "Let's continue to get him the ball more often" because it's always a positive play.

Jeromey Clary - For all of the crap Clary took as the weak-link of the offensive line last season and into the offseason, the man deserves an apology.  He has been the Chargers best offensive lineman so far this season and seems to win the battle against whatever pass-rusher he's facing about 90% of the time.  His technique is vastly improved over 2008 (when I thought he was serviceable) and he holds his blocks longer than anyone else on the line.  If you watch the pressure on Rivers these last few weeks, it almost always comes from up the middle or from whomever Marcus McNeill was trying to block.  Outside of one missed assignment that turned into a sack on Rivers against the Raiders, I cannot remember Clary making a mistake or causing a sack.

 

Defense

Kevin Burnett - 13 tackles, 1 sack, 2 QB hits.  Kevin returned to being the monster we all saw in the preseason.  A theory I had, and had mentioned once or twice, was that once the season started the defensive playbook was vastly expanded and Burnett was forced to play catch-up again.  His monster game against Miami, where he seemingly made every tackle, lends credence to that theory.  According to the box score, Burnett was the only Chargers player to touch a Dolphins QB behind the line of scrimmage.  He led the team with 13 tackles, and the next closest guy was Stephen Cooper with 8.  He also played a fair amount of man coverage on Anthony Fasano, Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams, as where as zone coverage where he was quick to make the tackle.  Kevin Burnett could not have had a better game.

Larry English - 2 tackles, 1 pass defended.  I have one gripe about Larry English and it's that he goes outside on his pass-rush too much.  I guess it's fine, because he's usually fast enough to get around the blocker, but with no pressure from the defensive line the QB can get away from him by simply stepping up in the pocket.  I know the kid is young and inexperienced, but by time the playoffs roll around I'd like to see him trying the occasional spin move, swim move or bull-rush so that the offensive tackle doesn't know what to expect every play.

As for this game, Larry made three big plays that stand out to me.  One was the play in which Chad Pennington left the game with a shoulder injury.  The announcers missed it, but it looked to me that Chad hurt his shoulder because English grabbed Chad's arm while he was throwing.  Even if that didn't happen, Chad had to get rid of the ball quickly because Larry got there to force pressure very quickly.  The second play was Larry's defended pass, which was brilliant (he saw the screen and stopped to swat it down instead of trying for the sack) and saved a huge play (the RB had blockers and nobody in front of him).  The third play was a non-play.  A dead ball that the referees didn't whistle dead until after Chad Henne started making his reads in the pocket.  Larry got there, grabbed Henne and then stopped himself from completing the sack.  If he made the rookie mistake of throwing Henne to the ground, it would've been a 15 yard penalty and an automatic first down for the Dolphins.

Luis Castillo - 4 tackles (2 tackles for loss).  With Jamal Williams out of the lineup, Luis is seeing a lot more double-teams than he's used to.  Still, he may be playing the best football of his life to start the 2009 season.  He wins every one-on-one matchup, is playing the run like he's a Nose Tackle and is generally using his speed and agility to get where he wants to be and screw up the play for the opposition.  During obvious passing downs (like 3rd & long), I would sometimes see the Dolphins block him with two guys and have a RB standing by watching him in case he got by the offensive linemen.  They knew that if the Chargers were not coming with the blitz, Castillo was the main guy to worry about.  It's great to have such a dynamic player on the line still, and things will get better for the defensive line as Ogemdi Nwagbuo continues to improve and Jacques Cesaire gets healthier and in game shape.

Defensive Secondary - 9 passes caught by WRs for 67 yards.  The strength of the Chargers is in the passing game on both sides of the ball.  The Bolts' WRs are fantastic and the CBs are just as good.  Antonio Cromartie may not have an interception this season, but that's because defenses are starting to throw away from him the same way they did with Quentin Jammer Analysis time!  Let's look at how often opposing QBs have been avoiding throwing to their WRs and how successful they've been when they've tried to:

In 3 games, Chargers opponents have targeted.....

  • Wide Receivers 38 times.  They have completed 21 of the passes to WRs (55%).  25 of the passes to wide receivers have been thrown at a player defended by Cromartie or Jammer.  They have completed 10 of those passes (40%).
  • Running Backs 27 times.  They have completed 21 of the passes to RBs (77%).
  • Tight Ends 12 times.  They have completed 8 of the passes to RBs (66%).

Do you see now why opposing offenses might try throwing to the RBs, TEs or slot receivers more when they play against the Chargers?  After 3 weeks of games, statistics say that you only have a 40% chance of completing a pass to one of your top 2 receivers against San Diego.  If you don't count the Louis Murphy 4th quarter TD, where Cromartie and Clinton Hart were standing around pointing at each other, Antonio and Quentin have yet to give up a receiving touchdown this season.

 

Dolts

Offense

Darren Sproles - 18 carries, 41 rush yards, 2 catches, 14 rec yards, 6 kick/punt returns, 76 returns yards.  I know some people won't be happy about this.  "It's not his fault, it's the offensive line's fault."  I get that, and I agree with you.  However, I cannot go another week pretending that Darren Sproles is a suitable #1 running back.  I gave him the benefit of the doubt going into Baltimore because his only other time starting was against Pittsburgh in the playoffs.  Darren's abysmal 2.4 Yards Per Carry is starting to wear on me though.  While I appreciate the weapon he is and wouldn't want to see anybody else returning kicks for the Chargers, I'm left wondering where the initial "Michael Bennett Plan" went.  You remember it.  It was when the coaching staff told us that if anything happened to LT, Bennett would take over as the starter and Sproles' role would remain unchanged.  It hasn't exactly played out that way.

By comparison, and it's a legitimate one because they're running behind the same mangled offensive line, Michael Bennett is averaging 3.1 Yards Per Carry.  Does that make him an All-Pro?  Heck no, but it makes him an improvement over Sproles.  I wouldn't want the offense calling run plays every time Bennett comes on the field, because then it becomes obvious, but I would like to see him used more when the offense is trying to run time off the clock or get short-yardage.  There's really no downside to it.  Bennett has proven to have soft hands, went nuts with screen passes in the preseason and is a bigger, stronger runner with great speed.  Why not keep Sproles fresh and useful?

It'll never happen but if I was Norv....Darren would get taken off of punt returns.  I'm sorry, but when the ball is bouncing 10 feet in the air and there are 5 defenders within a foot of it...LEAVE IT ALONE.  Who care if it's going to bounce back to the 10 yard line.  Don't jump on it at the 15 and risk fumbling it with no teammates in sight to bail you out.  Also, has nobody ever explained the term "fair catch" to Darren?  I think they may want to before he gets killed or loses and game by trying a field a punt on the 7 that he has no business fielding.

I didn't think I'd be saying this, because I love the philosophy of throwing all of the time, but I really cannot wait until LT comes back.

Chris Chambers - 0 catches, thrown to 3 times.  I'm left unimpressed by Chris Chambers this season.  I don't know if he's just so beaten up that he cannot be effective anymore, but for the amount of money he's getting paid he should be able to contribute something.  He's so bad that while I was taking notes during the game I started writing down when he was not on the field, which thankfully was quite often.  Just about every time the Chargers spread out with 3 or 4 WRs, and specifically on their drive at the end of the first half, Chambers was sitting on the bench.  Even when he had the ball thrown to him, it was the same thing we've seen already against Baltimore and Oakland.  Instead of making a play for the ball, Chambers seems to try to get a flag thrown for defensive pass interference.  Right now, although he's paid like a top 10 WR in the league, Chambers is the 4th best WR on the Chargers.

Offensive Line - 2 sacks allowed (4 tackles for loss allowed), 2.5 team YPC.  I was tempted to do an individual Dolt for everyone except Clary, but decided against it. They all deserve it though.

I can't hate on the -ski brothers too much because they're backups, and Brandyn Dombrowksi is playing backup on a completely different position.  However, there are certain plays where they look lost.  The Kendall Langford sack happened because he threw Dombrowski to the side like he was nothing.  The hit on Rivers that looked like it might knock him out of the game happened because Dombrowski was beaten and Scott Mruczkowski lost his assignment and was left blocking air while a blitzer ran free.  I was really hoping Vasquez would be back for this game because I think it'd be a big help, but no such luck.  Hopefully he's back for Pittsburgh.

Marcus McNeill does not deserve the big contract he's probably going to get.  His feet are slow and his balance isn't great.  I'd love to say that Joey Porter bull-rushed past him to get to Rivers on his sack, but in reality he just hit McNeill in a way that made Marcus lose his balance and fall backwards.  He is not looking like a Pro Bowl Left Tackle these days, and the fact that Norv Turner told the announcing crew that he's been disappointed in McNeill this season speaks volumes.  To put it simply, there's constant pressure being put on Philip Rivers by whoever McNeill is trying to stop.

Kris Dielman......I feel like I should wait before I say anything.  He's lost a lot of his consistency.  He has a good play followed by a bad play, and visa versa, a lot.  He also may have lost a step because his blocks to open holes for the RBs always seem late.  I don't know what it is with him, but I don't see what I used to see from him.  He's not holding blocks, he's not pushing people around.  I'll wait until I really say whether or not he's having a bad season, because he's getting a lot of the brunt of Nick Hardwick not being there.  The penalty to forearming the defender's helmet was a sign that Dielman is frustrated though, so at least he knows there's an issue.

 

Defense

There were no defensive Dolts this week.  Everyone played at either a level expected of them or higher.

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I believe the Chargers are one of the only teams in the league

that haven’t given up a run of 20+ yards. Know why?

Eric Weddle’s tackling. That’s why.

Greg Maddux for manager.

by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 28, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

His technique is great. When a bigger RB is coming at him, Weddle does a great job at “stopping” the RB until more guys get there to pile on. I’m not calling him a bad tackler. He’s just not the knockout hitter the Polamalu or Sanders is.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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I am not ready to mention Weddle with Reed, Polamalu or Sanders. I love that he is always around the football, but I just don’t think he hits hard enough or is fast enough to be, or become and elite Safety.
Your Ronnie Brown line was probably a joke, since he never got the hand off, but he would be anxious rather than fearful if he noticed Weddle coming at him.
I like Weddle and think he is a quality starter, just not as high on him as everyone else.

by JeromeB on Sep 28, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't a joke

Ronnie Brown didn’t get the ball in his hands because he was too busy looking at Weddle coming at him.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know about “never ever ever.” If memory serves he destroyed one Johnnie Lee Higgins in Week 1.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Sep 28, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree but higgins weighs 170 pounds and russel lined him up and made it easy

not that he didnt make the play, just saying it wasn’t TO he leveled

by not humble enough on Sep 28, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Granted, but I was only responding to the “never ever ever” comment not trying to suggest Weddle is some big hitting safety.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Sep 29, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Noted

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weddle

I think Weddle is underrated because if it wasn’t for him we’d be getting burned even more. He’s made a lot of saving tackles after DL/LB misses. Although I agree he will never be a Ronnie Lott type, he’ s pretty good and may be better down the road as he gets more experience.

He did lay the lumber on this hit of Johnnie Lee Higgins (knocked him out of the game).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49iVrJnahLI

by Kirkendog on Sep 28, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blindisde hit

It’s easy to knock somebody out when they don’t see you hitting them.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good list...

Agree with all, and I also agree with BoltDaddy… Weddle continues to be solid every game, which we need badly with Hart back there with him. Very, very happy with Burnett’s game… he had me a little worried teh first couple of games. I might even be tempted to give Rivera a Bolt too… sure, Miami’s offense isn’t great, but it seemed to me that we had players positioned effectively to stop any big plays, which tends to be our Achilles…

by San Diego Viking on Sep 28, 2009 7:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s easy to play defense when the quarterbacks you’re facing either cannot throw accurate over 20 yards or refuse to throw more than 10 yards because they’re afraid to screw up. Nobody needed to play over the top and Rivera knew it (which is why Ginn almost got a 90 yard TD catch).

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ogemdi!

Got great penetration and shed tacklers to make some very good plays inside at key moments. I love seeing Jamal there on the sidelines to guide him.

Kevin returned to being the monster we all saw in the preseason. A theory I had, and had mentioned once or twice, was that once the season started the defensive playbook was vastly expanded and Burnett was forced to play catch-up again.

This could be, but he also came out in that last preseason game with a stinger. I’ve been wondering if he was 100% those first games; he was all over the place yesterday. I thought Weddle was bolt worthy too; that int really iced the game. I really liked the blitz packages too; after that first drive it was a good defensive effort.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 28, 2009 7:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Weddle's pick

It deserves it’s due, but it was a play Weddle should’ve made anyways. Henne stared a hole through his receiver before throwing it, and doesn’t have the quickest release in the world.

Ogemdi played well. I don’t know that he was Bolt-worthy just because they ran the ball right at him repeatedly and he got pushed back a lot. Call me crazy, but a YPC of 5+ for the opposition shouldn’t get a Bolt for the player they were running at.

I’m in the same boat with you about Jamal being there (I doubt he travels with them), and I like the prospect of having a young NT that’s getting better and better. I just think his name got called so much because they ran at him constantly.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LETS HEAR IT FOR WEDDLE!!!

For he’s a jolly good fellow…hip hip hooray…hip hip hooray!!!

Chance favors the prepared mind.......

by Gorditoe1 on Sep 28, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Errr

19/60 would be just over three yards per carry, my bad.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 28, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That shut me up

Ogemdi Nwagbuo, consider yourself a Bolt this morning.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm talking about!

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 28, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said before..about Jamal

The run game by Miami was almost devastating; we skirted danger and got the win. The credit goes to picking up the pace in the second half, nice adjustments

Lines on both sides need help…too much give on defensive side and not enough push on the offensive side, at least lines were a bit more physical yesterday (a good sign hopefully)…lines take time to mesh and grade, but the time is now

For the LT haters, Darren is nice change of pace open field guy….but simply can’t do the in between tackle thing, Gartrell could have….but wait he is now on Giants…why do they run those plays anyways; because it tightens the linebackers up for the line and keeps inside on their lanes instead covering space wide

At least the Chargers are posting wins, but healthy or not I will be expecting improvement and some rhythm soon

by bo_shilo on Sep 28, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d shift Sproles’ dolt to the Coaches

Daren had some good returns. The rushing problem was the play selections. How many times does a play have to get stopped in the backfield before the Coaches will decide – It aint gonna work today!!?

Hardwick isn’t in there; the O-line is patched together; we have not gotten (and probably will not get) that interior push to run up the middle. Accept it and get over it Coach!

Sproles’ ran the plays that were called. He can’t part the Red Sea. They would have bee better off running sweeps or screens with him. At least this gets him out in space with some separation. Then if he can’t break out I’ll call him a dolt. Right now in my book, its on the play called.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 8:59 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

You can call a pass play every time. They were trying to keep the D honest. However, I’d rather Bennett get more carries when it became obvious that the Chargers were trying to run out the clock late.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t mind keeping them honest and running a few up the gut

But I thought they wasted too many plays up the middle. I know we have to keep running too.

If those Fullbacks are as good as they told us when they cut Lo Neil, run the sweep and let ‘em prove how good they are.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't mind the runs up the middle.

I mind the fact that they’re done with a 180-lb guy who can’t break a tackle. Keep him in the open where he can use his size to his advantage: feed ’em Bennett most of the time, bringing Sproles in once in awhile for a screen play/threat and only running him up the middle just enough to keep defenses from getting complacent.

Oh, and bench Chambers. We got what we wanted from him: let’s see what Buster can do!

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 28, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's what I was trying to say.

A kid who has a unicorn ranch in his room cannot call other people weird. Yes, we know about "Rancho Unicorno."

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 28, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why Sproles DOLT should be on Norv Turner.

Sproles is only doing what’s asked of him. Should he just excuse himself from the field and ask Bennett to come in? Norv needs to split their carries instead of 75/25.

by SJO on Sep 28, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We still had some tackling woes...

But, that has improved significantly since the Ravens game; not to mention all of the losses sustained on defense.

I was happy to see a very smart and disciplined English out there, defending the screen as well as one can possibly do. He also was able to get pressure and disrupt that nice cozy pocket that QB’s are so used to having against us

Next up, Washington State. Make'um pay!

by CaDuck on Sep 28, 2009 9:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that was a nice play

sniffed it out, stopped his rush, and then knocked down the pass. Nicely done rook

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 28, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with your Sproles thoughts

Sproles is a big time explosive weapon but I think they have him on the field way too much. He returns every kick off and punt and he has been in on a huge portion of the offensive plays, Bennett has hardly been playing at all. He is not built to play every down in the NFL. If Sroles goes down with an injury everyone will say its another bad break for the Chargers, but in my opinion they are asking for it by his overuse.

I think you were a little hard on McNeill, when you throw as often as the Chargers do there are going to be times that O Linemen get beat. When I watch games around the NFL most QBs are under pressure. That is the name of the game for NFL Defenses. We (Charger Fans) are not use to seeing it with our defense, but most defenses do whatever it takes to pressure the QB. The Chargers throw a ton of passes a game so Rivers will get hit and pressured.

Everybody that told me Floyd was better than Chambers was right and I was wrong. Maybe I should pay more attention to the Outsiders fancy stats.

Sorry if this makes even less sense then usual, feeling pretty sick today.

by JeromeB on Sep 28, 2009 9:05 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Chris Chambers is quitting on plays

It’s like he has decided the play should only last for 4 seconds, so I am only gonna run for 5. He had time to chase after that fade to the back of the end zone, but just stood there at the goal line. He runs under that who knows maybe he gets there? Maybe not

But the Safety was between him and the ball and maybe he pulls contact and gets a fresh set of downs in the Red Zone. Either way we watched Chambers stand there for 2 seconds when he could been playing football.

Isn’t this guy in a contract year? He isn’t playing like it…

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw that too

Drove me crazy.

I think he’s done in the NFL after this season.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to re-draw the depth chart

Maclom Floyd you just got a promotion!

Chris Chambers you get to alternate with Buster on the punt returns.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't have both active.

Buster should be returning punts. Chambers should be returning splinters (well, not really: the NFL can afford decent benches).

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 28, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it

I think it’d be Naanee unless Floyd manages to stay healthy all season.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d think either would be better than Chambers right about now

Naanee would be great to see in there full time. Chambers would not run those crossing routes and get the results like Naanee.

I’m down on Chambers right now, but I really hope he finds a way to improve his game. He has been a great player in the past, and if he can return to those ways…. How much better does that make the Chargers passing attack? Right now Chambers is the only dim bulb in a room full of bright lights.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said

Chambers is only on the field about half of the time now, and on obvious passing situations he’s usually not out there (which tells me he’s probably a better blocker than Floyd and Naanee).

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That must be how they are keying on the run...

Good observation John. I am gonna watch for the run when Chambers is in there.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chambers is in there on passing plays too. It’s just that every time it’s 3rd & long or the Chargers are driving at the end of the half/game, they take him out. When they reach that point of “You know we’re throwing and we’re going to throw anyways”, he seems to be on the sidelines and it’s usually VJ, Floyd, Naanee and Gates as the 4 WRs.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

New Team Rule:

You drop a pass in practice, you run a mile for each time.

You miss a tackle in practice, you run a mile for each time.

You do either in a game and you’re returning a punt for each time.

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--Gnarls Barkley, "Feng Shui"

by StrangeBroP25 on Sep 28, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he drops a pass or misses a tackle,

he just may deserve to die! just kidding…

Formerly, thats a no-go.

Yes, that is "the quarterback of the future" for WSU better known as Jeff Tuel. If only he knows what he now has coming to him...

by CaDuck on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please tell me his contract is up after this season!

Please!

Formerly, thats a no-go.

Yes, that is "the quarterback of the future" for WSU better known as Jeff Tuel. If only he knows what he now has coming to him...

by CaDuck on Sep 28, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chamber’s contract is up after this season.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 28, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you! YES!!!

I am going to have a contract burning themed fiesta

Formerly, thats a no-go.

Yes, that is "the quarterback of the future" for WSU better known as Jeff Tuel. If only he knows what he now has coming to him...

by CaDuck on Sep 28, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought English ran hot and cold

I saw some really great plays for English. That tip was stratospheric!

One thing I didn’t like was seeing him belly up to the OT. I thought the whole reason we liked the guy is because of his long arms / ability to keep spacing during the rush.

It was nice to see how English’s low to the ground running style absolutely blew up that right tackle. That dude turned inside out like he was stuck in a clothes drier!

Overall definately a bolt!

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's something I'd like the point out.

Announcers and media folk never tire of pointing out how many games we’ve gone without scoring a TD on our opening possession.

This is actually pretty disingenuous. What they mean is REGULAR SEASON games. Because we actually scored a TD on our opening possession of the divisional game at Pittsburgh last year—Rivers hit Jackson for a deep TD.

Greg Maddux for manager.

by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 28, 2009 9:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I KNEW IT!

I saw that yesterday and thought to myself “I swear Rivers hit VJ for a looong TD on the first play of the game in the last season or so.” Still, I hate that stat (regular season or not) and want it to go away.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boone had a good tip.

I don’t know if that makes him a Bolt, per se, but he has been taking flak since he got off the plane, so it’s good to see him do something good in his first game here.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 28, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope

It was a good tip, but the ball wasn’t going to get caught by anybody but Weddle anyways.

Also, Boone did next to nothing besides the tip. I swear he ended up on the ground on every play he was in on.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another thing.

The opposing TE had zero catches, a week after another opposing TE got only 1 catch (albeit for a TD, but still).

Defense is improving…

Greg Maddux for manager.

by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 28, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WE STOPPED A TIGHT END!

Folks, we just witnessed history here! Perhaps a lot of that has to do with Burnetts sudden development…

Formerly, thats a no-go.

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by CaDuck on Sep 28, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Point

Although, Fasano is having a really rough season so far…

by Orz on Sep 28, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

but last year backup and average TEs had their way with us. Last week we held Heap to 1 catch, and this week we allowed zero. It’s improvement.

Greg Maddux for manager.

by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 28, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU

Sproles should not be our primary RB with LT out. He’s great as a kind of “wildcard” player on screens and stuff, but I just don’t think he’s big enough to run the ball every play. Bennett should get the majority of the carries for as long as LT is out.

And yeah, that punt return nonsense is getting annyoing!

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by LJbumfool on Sep 28, 2009 11:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

have to agree

I was a little down on weddle in the oakland game when they ran the reverse and insted of nailing JaMarcus Russell, weddle backpeddled. And, as you said about burnett, he seemed confused the first two games. But, they are starting to look better. Yeah, we seem to have more than our fair share of injuries, but that’s part of the game. Hopefully, the young guys will keep improving and the defense will solidify by the middle of the season. I know denver really hasn’t played anyone tough (with possible exception of cincinnatti) but their defense hasn’t given up very many points. But, if teams can score on them and force denvers offense to play catch up, then the mistakes might come. But, as long as their offense doesn’t have to outscore anyone, their defense can win them some games.

by irishlad on Sep 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wildcat

I read an article that said the chargers practiced the wildcat, mostly to give the defense the opportunity to defend against it. But, I would like to see what we could do with it once in awhile. I wouldn’t use it alot, just once in awhile to give opposing defenses something new to worry about. JMO

by irishlad on Sep 28, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The problem with the wild cat

is that it takes our best player off the field.

Greg Maddux for manager.

by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 28, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

Also, they were running it with LT who isn’t playing.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If there is a Leg-e-dude out there

There is a way to run anything!

Formerly, thats a no-go.

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by CaDuck on Sep 28, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the wildcat might be good for us

One thing the Dolphins haven’t done much is backwards lateral to Pennington on the sideline. If we were do this it would give Philip a wide open look at the field (no line in front of him). If we send two receivers deep, I think it would give the Safeties fits. By that I mean you have to respect the deep threat of our two big WRs running down field in single coverage. And if the Safeties pull back, maybe the option running play gets results with fewer guys in the box.

And we had success on the one flea flicker which was a quasi-wildcat.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with that is....

You’re asking non-QBs to throw a pass. If one defensive player sniffs the play out, it sounds like an easy pick six.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More of a lateral over to Rivers

but yes two passes and two receptions on one play does up our risks.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see the wildcat just to mix up our running game.

Put Rivers on the sidelines for a few plays. Let’s see what the running game can do.

by SJO on Sep 28, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t really care for the idea of taking our best player off the field.

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by Richard Wade on Sep 28, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see the wildcat too...

… but I’d only like to see the wildcat in garbage time, when the game is essentially over and there’s no reason to risk the #17 P.R. Machine on a game we’ve already won. So yeah, I’d like to see a few wildcat plays in several games, but not because I like the idea of trying to win without the Machine (or his backup, should the unthinkable happen and Volektric Billy come due)

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 28, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Garbage time"

First off, the Chargers have yet to have any garbage time this year and may not. Second, “garbage time” for me consists of running the ball and trying to get first downs to keep the defense rested. When the Chargers are up by 10 in the 4th quarter, I’d rather not have a RB throwing interceptions for touchdowns.

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. Trick plays, and the Wildcat formation, are for teams that do not have strong offensive personnel. When you have a great QB and great receivers, there’s no need to run trick plays.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree with you, but

I’m not suggesting to run the wildcat instead of throwing the ball. Our running game is crap. If we could throw in a few wildcat runs to get things loosened up or get things moving, what’s the harm. Better than Sproles up the middle for 1 yard. Hey if Norv is dedicated to the run, and we are going to run anyway, why not try a wildcat formation for that play?

by SJO on Sep 30, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

because the Wildcat formation creates a higher risk for turnovers. Much higher.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 30, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why they practice at it...like they have been.

What about the “flea flicker” they tried against Miami with sproles throwing the ball back to Rivers across the field. Norv is not against higher risk plays like that.

by SJO on Sep 30, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

McNeill the "Really" bigger man!

I find the evaluation of Marcus McNeill play completely amusing. Actually the entire article and uninformed sports commenting on the play of professional athletes. (The world already has too many, i.e. ESPN)

However on Marcus McNeill in particular; he broke his hand in practice before the Raiders game, had his ankle and knee twisted in that game, and this week had the flu losing over 17 pounds in 3 days. Now he would seem like a very unlucky guy is he wasn’t the average NFL player who constantly plays through injury and even sickness, so he shouldn’t be applauded for that but definitely not attacked by John(obviousloser).

Norv Turner was disappointed about the jaw jacking before the game between McNeill and Porter. With players like Porter it is hard not to play their game of back and forth. I assume the mind games worked to get him that sack(that didnt help win the Fins the game). An interior defensive player can get locked down for 55 plays out of 61 and people will say he had a good game! An OL can lock down defenders for 70 out 75 plays and people will say he had a bad game!

As far as his money goes, he is one of the last few Traditional OL playing LT. The NFL has marginalized this position by drafting converted DL, LB, and TE for this position. None of these guys are leading their teams to success but the Traditional OL are.

McNeill came into college at 355lbs he played at around 335lbs during college. However the last two years his weight has been closer to the 320s. I believed he has been compelled by all the attention Non-Traditional OL having been getting in recent years. This weight loss has showed in his physical demeanor and has negatively affected his leverage. Weight equals power in football. A rusher can be stronger than McNeill but he can still push 250/275/295 easier than they can push 335.

As far as him deserving his upcoming contract. If he doesn’t deserve it, Rivers didn’t deserve his. The GMs play a different game than coaches and fan boys like yourself. They play the numbers game. NFL playoff teams closely resemble when you look how much money they spend in key positions. Their is a reason the top three positions in salary are QBs, DE/LB, and OL are the highest three other than them playing better than the people in other positions. Their importance to a successful team and the stock value of the person occupying their position. When you say someone isn’t worth a certain amount of money just because you like another player over them, you’re not being very objective. The team actually breaks down a player’s worth by using market calculations that come up with a dollar amount. As in, regardless if you think a new ipod is worth $400 it is valued at $400.

What people like you dont understand about sports is that while players are considered employees of an NFL team they are really the product. You wouldn’t call an ipod an employee of Apple. No because it is the product that the consumer(you) consumes. So try to not look at the player’s salary as what they get to do their job but really how much it costs to produce a product consumers will spend money on each week. A renewable product. The San Diego Chargers resale the same product 16 different times in the regular season at sometimes increasing value. Apple can’t resale the same ipod.

So start to look at player’s salary as production costs. QB(microprocessor), LB/DE(graphics card), OL(operating software). Without a QB your ipod wouldn’t know how to work. Without a LB/DE you wouldn’t be able to see anything. Without an OL you still couldn’t do anything with your fancy graphics and great computing potential. If you take these three away from your ipod it is just a “Paper Weight.”

P.S. The rest of these components can be purchased at your nearest APP store(free agency list).

by Gridiron Realist on Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You know

if you have an issue with an opinion expressed by someone on this site, you can express disagreement without coming off like an arrogant ass.

Greg Maddux for manager.

by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 28, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean seriously, what do you want?

You may have some decent points, but they get lost because you dress it up with insults to the article’s author.

If you think we’re all idiots, why are you even on SBNation? You realize it’s a site made by fans for fans to talk about their favorite teams. Do you think we should just all shut up and sit at home on Sundays and not express our opinions about our favorite teams?

Greg Maddux for manager.

by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Analogy buddy

A kid who has a unicorn ranch in his room cannot call other people weird. Yes, we know about "Rancho Unicorno."

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 28, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This post is humorous to me.

Sincerely,
obviousloser

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 28, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Being objective

Nowhere in John’s spiel was McNeill compared directly to another player. He never said that Hardwick or Dielman was worth more in terms of money because McNeill wasn’t blocking as well as those two, or that they were faster, more balanced, etc. He merely said that he didn’t think McNeil was playing to the calibre of a Pro Bowl LT commanding 5-6 million a year. His points were McNeil looked slow on his feet and his balance was off, this year and last year. I think those are valid points, especially if you have seen the back-side of the pocket collapsing this year. In that respect, John’s opinion is about as objective as any die-hard fan’s opinion can be.

 And from where I stand, it’s not weight that is the deciding factor, it’s momentum (mass*velocity). A 250 lb LB will easily topple a 325 lb lineman if the LB is running near full speed and the lineman is rocking backwards in an off-balance stance. To assume that bigger is always better is foolish (explain a 280 lb centre blocking a 330 lb NT).

I don’t think that the Chargers would be making a good move signing McNeil to a big money-big term contract for the exact reason you led off with: he’s already been injured THREE times in THREE games this year. How can you bank on consistency for 4-5 years if you can’t get it game to game?

And one more thing, the analogy with the computer is backwards. The lineman are the grunts, they do the majority of the work, they are the processor. The QB (and usually the MLB) is the operating system, the thing that holds it all together and makes it work on a larger scale. The rest is just filler.

by riversformvp on Sep 28, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

McNeil is on the feild
he’s already been injured THREE times in THREE games this year.

He’s fighting through some nicks. In previous posts I’ve express concern about his neck surgery. but hey he’s on the feild, doing his best

That’s the guy I want on my side in a war. You go Marcus! AJ would be making a mistake to over look that guy’s commitment.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 28, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marcus ...

You really should stop spending your precious training time reading your SBNation “press clipings” and keep your nose in the playbook. Save the vitriol for James Harrison. We’re in your camp (Really) Big Guy.

by Robo65 on Sep 28, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how people create accounts with "clever" handles

Just to make one post as if they are scared that someone might find out who they are and come beat them up. This is the internet guys, even if they know who you are they aren’t going to fly to your shack in Alabama and beat you up. So hears to you, oh anonymous internet poster, you are a DOUBLE coward.

A kid who has a unicorn ranch in his room cannot call other people weird. Yes, we know about "Rancho Unicorno."

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 28, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It’s even better because I can actually see their real names.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry guys,it was me I'll confess.

It’s just that I’ve been having marital problems and I just decided to take out my frustrations out on our friend obviousloser.Sorry bro…no hard feelings ok(hug chestbump and a HEINEKEN..Cheers).


 best budds ok…

Chance favors the prepared mind.......

by Gorditoe1 on Sep 29, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

what a buzzkill

the Bolts are off to a better start than ’07 and ’08. i saw improvements in play calling and defense this week over previous weeks. the team put together 2 wins (just short of 3 wins) even with all the injuries.

Chargers have a chance to go into the bye week 3-1 if we can steal one from the Steelers like Cincy did.

by boltsgamedayfootball on Sep 28, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nomination for "Bolt"

A guy who didn’t even play. But early in the 3rd Q, when Rivers had that really bad series and it was obvious he was banged up, and Pennington was on the sidelines out of his pads, I had a series of thoughts:
“I hope Rivers isn’t injured.”
“If Rivers is out, we’ll win anyway… this game.”
“Thank the Football Gods for Volektric Billy.”

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a SERIOUS nomination, but it’s moments like this when you’re glad you trust your backup.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 28, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the exact same thing!

Having Volek as a backup is like having Jessica Alba as a wife!

Except, Volek is not an attractive female, and he plays football, and he is probably not a decent actress, and not pregnant or recently pregnant, and Alba didn’t win a playoff game anainst Indy, and Alba may or may not be a Bolts fan.

My allusion makes no sense…Sleep deprivation does strange things to a person!

Formerly, thats a no-go.

Yes, that is "the quarterback of the future" for WSU better known as Jeff Tuel. If only he knows what he now has coming to him...

by CaDuck on Sep 28, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

decent actress?

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t you see her in that movie where she was in the bikini? She was fantastic.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Sep 29, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is a very good role for her to play

Formerly, thats a no-go.

I apologize for my ignorant and blatant lack of refinement in terms of my cursage. I did not know much of this Tuel feller so I accidentally used another innocent mans picture. Believe me, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN!

by CaDuck on Sep 29, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It really displays her talents

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 29, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

She played a good go-go dancer when she wasn’t talking.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

VJ/Rivers combo

This is turning into one of the best combos in the league (I only wish they threw the ball to VJ more often – the guy is awesome, especially at coming back on the usually underthrown Rivers’ ball). If anyone is worth the cash leftover from Chambers it’s him. Rivers has definitely improved on the deep ball, that used to be a weakness and I was missing Brees on those throws but he has been looking Fouts-like lately, laying the ball in with 2-3 defenders around the WR. If we can get our running game going & pass-block better for Rivers we’ll be unstoppable on offense (at least to the 10 yard line :)

This just proves how good a team we have, despite all the injuries & mistakes, we’re still able to win (most teams would be 0-3 right now). If we can steal a win from PITT (3-1 with a bye and hopefully 3 more wins vs. AFC West sisters, although DEN is looking better than I expected…6-1 vs. NYG would make for a good showdown game).

by Kirkendog on Sep 28, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't get too worried about Denver.

Freak win against good team, two convincing wins over bad teams. Yeah, they’re better than expected, but what do they have left to face?

Bad: KC, KC, Oak
Okay: Was, Dal
Good: SD, SD, Pit, Bal, Phi, NYG, NE, Indy.

They’ll end up within one win of .500.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 28, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

By comparison, we have left:

Bad: KC, KC, Oak, Cle
Okay: Was, Dal, Ten
??: Den, Den, Cincy
Good: Pit, Phi, NYG

This division is still SD’s to lose.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 28, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cincinatti is a good team?

ROTFLMFAO

Oh, and Wasington SUCKS. They’ll probably beat the Redskins but lose to KC away. Tough to win at arrowhead.

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 28, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cincy

That team could go 8-8 in a strong division. Be careful.

Dallas and Tennesse belong in the “good” section. Denver belongs in Okay. Washington is very bad.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 2:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure Tennesee belongs in the good section

They’re 0-3

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 29, 2009 3:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their schedule is unbelievably tough

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 3:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're QB is Kerry Collins

’nuff said.

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 29, 2009 4:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get the feeling

he won’t be their QB long.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 4:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But...but...

We just signed him to an extension!

Greg Maddux for manager.

by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 29, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vince Young is not exactly stellar in his own right,

But they could trade for Dennis Dixon and he will find a way to erase those losses and go 16-0

Formerly, thats a no-go.

I apologize for my ignorant and blatant lack of refinement in terms of my cursage. I did not know much of this Tuel feller so I accidentally used another innocent mans picture. Believe me, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN!

by CaDuck on Sep 29, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Cincy looks good; they have a pretty decent secondary from the little I saw.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 29, 2009 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at me, I'm shaking in my little space boots

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 29, 2009 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bengals are NOT going to infinity and beyond.

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 29, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cincy can't seem to find 85

The Cincinnati D does look good.

But the Offense is not there, and me with 85 on both my fantasy teams, I thought for sure he’d have an up year talking all that trash in the off season. He’s proving himself to be just a windbag, all bark absolutely no bite. Is Chambers having a better year than Chad?

by Trendsearcher on Sep 29, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s on pace for over 1200 yards receiving.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Sep 29, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way am I not getting more points??

Heading back to my league settings to figure this out. He must not be finding the end zone.

by Trendsearcher on Sep 29, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, only one TD.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Sep 29, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They like their tall WRs (Caldwell and Henry) in the end zone.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they could actually win the division.

Note the word “could”: I think this division is open for three teams to try for. Cincy would be 3-0 if it weren’t for a fluke play. They’ve already got two underdog wins, and their remaining schedule is MUCH softer than Baltimore’s.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Sep 29, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh ya?

We’re you cyrogenically frozen during the 2006, 2007, and 2008 seasons?

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Palmer played much in 2008. Didn’t they have that Fitzgerald guy for most of the season?

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by John Gennaro on Sep 30, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK Jebus

2006 and 2007?

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 30, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of those years he was coming off knee surgery.

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by John Gennaro on Sep 30, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was Probowl MVP and threw for over 4000 yards that season

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 30, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

440 yards against San Diego

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 30, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2006 record was 8-8
2007 record was 7-9

Carson threw for over 4000 yards both seasons. My only point is they are not as bad with Palmer healthy as most people think. Their defense has been bad, but it seems to be on the mend.

by SJO on Sep 30, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fitzpatrick!

It was Fitzpatrick who played QB for them. Larry Fitzgerald would have guided them to 16-0

Formerly, thats a no-go.

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by CaDuck on Sep 30, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MORE?

They don’t throw the ball to VJ enough? Do you want them to throw to him on every play? Leading WRs and the amount of receptions they have thus far:

Vincent Jackson: 16
Reggie Wayne: 20
Randy Moss: 26
Andre Johnson: 18
DeSean Jackson: 12
Chad Ochocinco: 14
Santonio Holmes: 15
Derrick Mason: 12
Marques Colston: 15
Calvin Johnson: 13

The only players with more receptions on him on that list are either on teams that have abandoned the run (Patriots, Colts) or the Texans, who played an overtime game and gave the receiver a couple more catches because of it. The Chargers throw to VJ plenty.

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by John Gennaro on Sep 29, 2009 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way I see it:

To a degree, the less we throw to Jackson in the long run, the better. That means that he is drawing double coverage on every play (as he increasingly is now), and that will provide opportunities for other targets to shine and find gaping holes in the secondary. Of course, VJ will find holes and make plays with double coverage…But it will surely help others get open

Formerly, thats a no-go.

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by CaDuck on Sep 29, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Dolts on Red Zone Playcalling - LT is needed to improve Red Zone efficiency!!

I thought that maybe the chargers were a better team with Sproles rather than LT on the field. I have a new interpretation on that theory, Sproles is a better player for 2 things when the chargers go shotgun and when they screen pass. But anything resembling pro-formation or power formation LT is still much better and not only provides a power running threath, he accentuates the play action game.

You can make an argument for splitting carries on the field, but once in the red zone LT is urgently needed, he raises his desire and his ability to finish runs when he smells the red zone. And the safeties and linebackers have to attack the line so much more, providing the play action game that is getting no respect now. LT won’t make the problem go away but he wil push them away from the worst red zone team in the league to at least mediocre.

by TJBOLT on Sep 29, 2009 8:04 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It wasn’t the fault of the play-calling. The defense didn’t have to respect the run so the pass was covered. Simple as that. You can only work with the tools you have.

I hope you’re right about LT fixing the red zone woes.

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by John Gennaro on Sep 30, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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